 They change shape, they get very bright, they get very dim. And she said the most peculiar thing about them is there's helicopters out there. There's blackhawk helicopters that are escorting some of these away. And I remember turning and looking at her and I said, that's bizarre. But it wasn't too different from a few things that we had seen at our own time. So I kept thinking, I hope this happens at some point in time where we can actually go out with her and see it. Well, a few days later, she called again and she said, hey, I've got two clients going out tonight. Can you come?