 And my goodness, she then said, Miss Buck is a liar. And he knew, then he knew for sure that it was true. And then the reality set in, and his mom, well, she just broke down. And she just started to cry, revealing her human side, but never came clean, never told the real story. And by the way, we learn that again and again here on Our American Stories, particularly the World War II generation. So many of them just wouldn't come clean about what happened. Maybe it was so horrible they couldn't process it. Who knows what the reasons are?