 And so it's that symbolism really is something that has underlying reality to it. And I think in my book, I pay very close attention to the lots of symbolism behind the pride movement and the things that it shares its affinities with. And it's kind of surprising sometimes where that will take you. And I'll make a quick aside here that I learned a lot about reading symbolism from my Hillsdale professors as an English major. And so this whole book actually, I would say, couldn't have been written without having gone to Hillsdale.