 and they're just going to keep pushing the brand. It's not about sympathy for the man. The blank stare, I mean, there were moments where he had that blank stare where you think he was looking at the host or the moderators, or he's glancing over Trump. There were times he looked off stage right where he was looking off, because it was an empty room, where he's looking off, and you're like, what is he looking at? What's he thinking right now? Because he's not engaged in what's going on, and that was that far away look that