 Both men seemed stately and prepared for the position. And when did it change? That was my question, too. That would be a great political science question for you guys who do this on a regular basis. I can tell you exactly when it changed. What was the date of the first presidential debate in 2016 between Clinton and Trump? That debate, that first one between those two, was the first one that I would say is quote-unquote off the rails. And so that sort of, in my opinion, reset the...