 would have been confident in the facts and the argument and the talking points and he stumbled he you know i i think frankly trump may have gotten the better um of biden on the abortion exchange uh and and and that's sort of hard to believe given given josh he did say didn't he say look you're going to pass a you know a national ban you would you would sign um something nationally and i would veto that i mean he may he did make the the basic point that democrats have been making