 including his family members. Now, is everything he's ever said a lie? Of course not. Has Joe Biden said things that were demonstrably false, and he knew they were false, and he said them anyway? Yes. Is that a lie? 100%. Now, can you wave it away and say that's what politicians do? Yes, but I don't accept that. I think that's setting yourself up for a bad standard. But literally, you are the first person I've ever heard