 Did they know? Did they know? The question is, okay, if they didn't know, then they have an obligation because they know now. They have an obligation to tell the truth now. So either they knew and they were covering, which means they're still going to be covering, or they didn't know, in which case now they need to be honest about things. Joe Scarborough today, if he were CEO and he turned into performance like that, would any Fortune 500 corporation in America keep him on as CEO?