 and maybe be able to drag those guys. You think Whitmer is top of the ticket? Either Whitmer or Shapiro. No one even knows who Josh Shapiro is. 1% of the country knows who Josh is. So you're going to take a no-name recognition guy and put him on top of the ticket? Because then the argument becomes Trump's threat to democracy is so troublesome that we need even an uncertain and unknown guy or gal to beat him. This is like...