 Did it get to that point? Why was it such a disaster? Well, let's start there. I mean, I think that I've done a lot of debate prep for presidential candidates in my life, as you guys know, and I've had to figure out how do you help folks approach these really big moments. And there's no question last night was a big moment. I don't know that these two will debate again, by the way. I just don't know that the incentive structure is there for either of them for different reasons to debate anymore.