 Before this debate, he absolutely is – it's got to be – how he has any credibility now, I don't understand how anybody – it's one thing to be a surrogate for the campaign. If you're a surrogate for Donald Trump or you're a surrogate for Joe Biden, I get that. Surrogates are out there. Hey, my guy's great. Your guy's terrible. My guy's great. Your guy's terrible. I get that. I completely understand spin. But this is a major host on MSNBC that just –