 He wouldn't be recognized as Jewish by Jewish people. So that comment about, did your mother ever reconcile with her father? In effect, my mother married outside the faith, even though my father was half Jewish. And you've been listening to Oliver Halle and what a story he's telling. And this is just a side story. But these side stories, well, they inform so much about all of our lives. September 8th, the day that changed his life forever.