 and uh perform in a very different manner but i think a lot of stuff that she does and a lot of the way she markets herself and she carries herself is uh is uh is is is good for any any musician to follow in the path of right well i you know i i i just was so shocked that these third fourth and fifth graders go she's not so great and and i was using her as an example of somebody that played the harmonica because we were teaching a little bit about harmonica