 They were drafted, and they didn't complain. That's just the way it was. And I grew up in that environment, that post-World War II. You see a lot of veterans from World War II during parades. It was always a big deal, and it's just what you did. It was your turn to step up when it came time. So there was never any doubt in my mind I would go into service. And growing up in New York and seeing the ships in New York Harbor,