 So ironically, I think the Biden campaign thought if we get rid of the audience for the debate and we agree to this in-studio thing at CNN, that that'll stop Donald Trump, the demagogue, from whipping up the crowd and that'll help Biden. But no, I think Biden feeds off of people. Maybe he literally feeds off of them like he sucks their blood and that's what keeps him going. But at least metaphorically, he feeds off of people because he's a back-slapping, simpering politician. That's been his whole career. That's been 60 years he's been doing that.