 with senators and campaign operatives and donors, big donors from all over the country, does that mean that Joe Biden is not going to be the candidate? I don't know that. I think we'll know a lot more in a few weeks. Pretty shocking, especially coming from a former senator who's supposed to be a Biden campaign surrogate who, I mean, all these guys are supposed to, to some degree, to be Biden campaign surrogates because Biden's the incumbent.