 they finished a news conference, they went to Jeff Sullivan and said, what did you think, what did you think, what did you think? This is what he had to say. There's no doubt that he has a command of these issues, something that he has dealt with really for decades, but that really wasn't the overall purpose of the press conference. Just talking to a senior Democratic advisor who is in close touch with many Hill Democrats tells me this, I don't think anyone from the Hill is going to stand down after this.