 I think the military has a great way of teaching leadership from not just a positional leadership but also experiential where you have to get out there and do it for yourself. I was a 27-year-old young lieutenant in charge of 17 Navy SEALs, and I was taking them all across Asia. And there's a lot of leadership that goes along with that, a lot of success and a lot of failure. Isabella, want to give me a hand with Joe again, please?