 world's foremost authority on hurricanes. And this goes back to the 90s, and he would actually walk around, give them tours. So whenever there was ever a hurricane anywhere, they'd bring this guy on. And wonderful man. He's passed away now. But after he went forward to the government, when Al Gore was making noise about climate change, said that it's his experience that hurricane-free intensity is not increasing, nor is the frequency increasing. Basically said the...