 It seems like we have so little. We feel so inadequate. How could what I have make a difference? How could what I bring make a difference? So we said that the estimates, if you actually take all the men who were there with the women, with the children, there were about how many people there? 20,000. The Moda Center up in Portland, our arena, for concerts and for games, it seats about 20,000 people.