 But let's be realistic. Just like after World War II and everything else, we have to find a way to make opportunities for Russia and us. Russia is a natural ally in the big scheme of things. Sure, there are people in China, but you have thugs and dictators in control. How do you help them feel the pain or feel the gain to come along with where we need to go? Stop right there for a second, Ed. Stop right there for a second. Take Putin's position.