 Or, or, or, Jeff, they'll be gone or one other thing can happen. And I always cite the Salvation Army because I've always thought well of the organization. It's faith-based. They don't take money from the government. And most of their people, their upper executives, I think the last time I checked, their upper executives make maybe $70,000 a year. So you hire somebody who's competent at running an organization as a manager, because even a manager of a panda...