 possibility before you believe that this could exist and and it was great to chat with them and i felt through our conversation i actually made a new friend and you know i've talked intermittently since then so yeah which is what a skeptic should be is hey show me the proof you know until you do i'm i'm i'm on the fence uh as opposed to a debunker exactly and i think if you're going to investigate this uh this phenomenon any kind of phenomenon within the paranormal you need a healthy dose of skepticism anyways