 what can I give them so they can come back and tell their constituents, look, I got this working, we've got this little bit happening now, we just have to keep driving and keep asking as we go along. But she didn't defeat anybody. She didn't leave them licking their wounds when they left, but made them feel like she would listen, because she did, that she heard what the message was, but she also wanted them to leave with some form of success and some kind of dignity, and that's what's happened today.