 jobs when you're out on actually in manufacturing when you're out in skilled labor he doesn't understand that so to him a job is a job but that's not the way it is that's not how i mean this is why a jd vance is a totally different type of person to have in washington dc i'll tell you a story really quick when i first went to washington dc before i had ever been in politics i actually went to a judge denning book signing all by myself just went to dc and i was like i mean i'll probably meet people and i met someone that night and he says