 you know, Lewis, where's this drive coming from, you know, and where's the satisfaction in this? And let me, we're going to be back in a moment. This is Herb Cohen, your host for realworldleaders.org. Our co-hosts are students from Southerton High School, and we've been speaking with Larry Stewarti, CEO of MRA Group and Lewis Sharpe's founder of Positive Physicians Insurance Company, with our students, including Matt, Emily, their teacher, Amy, and our producer, Heather.