 You know, person to person. He had the range finder and stuff, you know. Okay, so there was a second shooter, in your opinion, or you say you have proof of it. Oh, yes, sir. What does he look like? What does this guy look like? All right, now, if you'll watch the video, you'll see and you'll get his name. And I'm trying to watch it over again. It's only 11 minutes on one.