 right he was like you know i've got all the minutiae here and nobody wants to talk about it yeah i mean that is a a common issue and actually does happen to candidates right it just didn't happen in that debate like no that's not what it was no no yeah sometimes you get these candidates that are out there giving you a million facts and figures and giving you an excel spreadsheet in debate form and that doesn't work very well which is why you know you go back and you tell that story all the time of roger ailes and and reagan where like hey focus on the five big themes bring it back to one of the things that you