 would like to bring in a number of non-family owners as well. The succession plan has been extremely difficult to plan for. The owners have been not willing to communicate details, so we don't know how to plan for things, and two of them are set to retire at the end of this year, with the other two that are going to be hanging around for another 10 to 15 more years. And so with all of that, there's just been some, like,