 to a physicist, oh, are you a quark? Or, you know, a zoologist, oh, are you a lion? No, you're not the thing that you study. You know, you're studying it to find out answers. But for this particular subject, people couldn't really see a differentiation between, you know, between the study and the thing studied, which made it complicated to an extent. But it was also quite fun because, you know, I could...