 which was a sci-fi magazine. And we interviewed Bob for the magazine and we met each other and he encouraged me to be a horror host. And we did a lot of live shows where Bob would host, uh, you know, it came from outer space, a creature from the black lagoon or whatever. And I would write material and, uh, and Bob, uh, again, encouraged me and said, you should get out in a chair and host horror movies. And I'm like, Bob, people don't do this sort of thing anymore. This is like the, when we were kids and, uh,