 He would pick me up, and in the neighborhood we lived in, there were some homes that had a pond in the front yard and that kind of thing. He would take me down there. He'd bait my hook, and we would sit there and catch perch and little catfish. He would sit there and bait my hook and watch me catch them as long as I would do it, which meant hours on end for both of us. It was a great time, and as a result, he and I were very close.