 or if it was the other two victims. But, man, when you see that right in front of you, it's not like he was brought up in war. As everything that the president's experienced, I'm sure he's never experienced that before. But that photo of his fist in the air, you know, I asked him about what made him do that. And he said, you know, I was down on the ground. They were holding me down. You should see my arms. They're black and blue. These are big guys. And...