 Okay. Well, that's part of the context right there, and that's part of the natural rub. First of all, he's old school, as you said. He's not really thinking of this from a traditional kind of CEO mindset. He's the owner-operator, right? And he's going, great, I'll pay for you to go get this additional training, but I'm not going to pay you when you're in school. I'm paying for the school. And I think that's a pretty fair deal, don't you?