 which if they really truly loved him, they'd tell him to step aside and do himself a favor. But they're in those meetings because they're afraid. They're nervous for their dad. They feel bad for, she feels bad for her husband, but at the same time, she wants to be there to see if maybe she can absorb some of the information in the meeting so that when they go to bed tonight at his bedtime of the ripe old time of 8 p.m. Eastern, she can then start saying to him, okay, listen, remember, this is what we talked about. Here's what you need to remember. I think she's actually trying to fill in the blanks for him.