 They didn't think they really could beat Trump. I mean, Trump's popularity was good. The country was thriving until COVID. We had some of the best numbers you could imagine when it came to jobs and people. And we had world peace, for goodness sake. We had the peace in the Middle East. The country was thriving. We didn't have all these things going on in our country that we're seeing now today with crime. So Joe was a throwaway.