 And this actually happened in 2008, so quite a while ago, and it's just now sort of wrapping up. But they hired this so-called financial advisor from Principal Securities in Sioux City, Iowa, or Sioux Falls, Iowa, one of those places. And a bit out of the church, I believe. Yep, out of the church, of course. And then Common Principal, this guy's firm, flew these people to their home office. Long story short is they set up