 thoroughly it's really good yeah so i'm not going to just put it away i'm gonna i'm gonna read more of it so so stay with us everybody we're talking with leo ruth b and he was the winning he had won third prize in the bigelow institute for consciousness studies essay contest on the best evidence for life after death so that's what we're going to talk about when we come back and we're going to learn what he wrote that got him to number three and what happened a