 sort of try and go for that down the line uh blue dog approach you know roy cooper uh north carolina is a is a strong contender there you know my colleague will upton actually over at the national polls he's done this analysis for us it's up on the site now of you know who the who the runners and riders what the shortlist actually is here and what strengths they have critically you know one of the people that they really want in this race is josh shapiro but that the prevailing consensus appears to be at the moment and i say this