 When you think about it, when you think about the Mag7, so think about Apple, for example, and their giant cashword. They are what we'd call a self-funding business. They are not dependent on the bond market. While they have outstanding bonds, they're certainly not dependent on the bond market to fund anything, any part of their business. But you go down the market cap spectrum and you think about some of these smaller companies in the small cap universe.