 So it is a delicate, tricky balance. She does poll right now better against President Trump than President Biden does. She still lags, but that's going to be her argument. But you have all these untested people. It's hard to test hypotheticals like Newsom or Shapiro or Pritzker or any of these other people until they're actually in the race. And they're going to get a honeymoon period. I mean, when you're not actively in the race and people aren't actively campaigning and running ads against you, you're going to get a little bit of an excitement, someone new. I think Democrats will kind of launch this person with some fervor.