 who wanted to twist things towards their own ideology. I mean, if you think the timber industry is evil, you will find experts who believe that as well. Is that how you see some of the problems there with Chevron, or do you have a different take? No, no, I think you're completely right. You know, I use probably one of the most easy-to-understand ways when you get a concrete rule is to look at the way they handled wetlands through the years. No.