 which is that rarely, and Blake, Jack was just saying this, I want you to dive deeper, we rarely ever see the leaders, the people that make decisions, have to face physical combat or opposition, almost never. And this used to be commonplace in the ancient world, not just the Bronze Age, as Jack would say, but also in the American Civil War and also in revolutionary times, to a lesser extent, and more modern we've come, our leaders become more disconnected from actual physical confrontation