 used to be that if you had a big forest fire you immediately went in and salvaged the lumber because in most cases the trees aren't burned to a cinder there's oftentimes billions of board feet of usable lumber in those burned trees and if you don't believe me talk to the people in the business they can go in and quickly log an area that has burned and oftentimes get an awful lot of lumber hundreds of millions of board feet of lumber out of those trees which is worth money and creates jobs