 And so how do you create sturdiness and stability in this relationship with her? That's a great question. Andy's like, I wasn't ready for that. I thought you were going to tell me how to pay these debts off. Here's what I'm going to tell you, and I'm going to pass it over to Jade, but here's what I would tell you. Exactly as I just rolled it out to you, she needs to hear you say that.