 that a little bit easier. There's a lot of you out there like, why would I sell this mutual fund to buy the ETF? You don't have to do that. The one company, big platform provider that is allowing their clients to move from the mutual fund to the exchange-traded fund that's exactly the same, Vanguard. If you're a Vanguard holder and you want to move from the Vanguard mid-cap index fund to the Vanguard mid-gap