 right by the roof line so all you have to do is hop up onto the air conditioning unit and from there pull yourself onto the roof again any able-bodied individual let alone a 20 year old boy could absolutely do this i mean it's not hard and maybe he had a ladder maybe he didn't but the real question is this building is very exposed i cannot emphasize that enough it's not like it's set back in the woods and boy nobody knows where it is it is right there in obvious sight so that's why you had all of these people rally goers saying wait a minute