 In combat, whether it be military combat for you guys or street cops like myself, we develop a suit of armor. And that suit of armor is designed to protect us. However, that suit of armor becomes rusty and it becomes a prison. And it creates a life we don't want. And I have to find a way to take that armor off when I don't need it. And by doing things outdoors, and using that word you use, vicarious ministry, when I listen to other people,