 She's the one that ends up taking the reign for this. So, I mean, he's desperately trying to stay in the race. He did a 60-minute interview on Friday that turned out to be a 20-minute interview. Well, that wasn't 60 minutes. That was ABC. Did he do 60 minutes? And I missed that. He was on ABC with George. Well, no, it was with George Stephanopoulos. So, I mean, yeah, it was, I mean.