 One is a little concerned that that might be a little too much, number one. And number two, even though they're living, you know, pretty frugal lives, if they're not doing some of the basic steps that we took to get us where we are, I just don't know if that would be in their best interest. So kind of wanted to. And then you had a call a couple months ago. It was either with Ken or John where it was about, you know,