 Good stuff. We're talking to Dr. Leo Rookby and you can get a hold of him or at least find out more of his information. You can contact him there as well. Rookby.com. That's R-U-I-C-K-B-I-E dot com. And you can read his essay at BigelowInstitute.org. Good stuff. He's going to stay with us another segment here. We are in the middle of open lines and it's really interesting. I