 with lester holt on nbc he made it very clear his biggest objection to trump is that trump questions the results of the 2020 election which joe biden has decided is a threat to democracy we're not actually a democracy we're a republic uh and i thought that would make it a good time to talk to christine miles who's the author of a brand new critically acclaimed and best-selling book calling called what is it costing you not to listen ms miles welcome to the program