 Get your brain going, right? And my aunt called in, and she was talking about a scripture. I believe this is the one she's talking about. It was Hebrews. We're talking about Hebrews. This is cool. Hebrews 11.1. It says, Now faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. You're good. I believe that's what she was looking for. Yes, that's the one.