 intrigued and hearing, talking about Bob Wilkins. I grew up in beautiful Walnut Creek, California, listening to Bob Wilkins. And I sort of followed my dream, gave up corporate America, got into physical production on motion pictures and TV, and ended up working on a lot of classic horror movies, some of the ones that he reviewed. And it was all by the kindness of strangers and other folks that helped me out. So those young guys out there in the trenches,