 How do you make time to have a life outside of work? Like work-life balance? Yes. I try to keep it very clear that I'm only in the office mentally when I'm in the office physically. I don't try to look at my phone when I'm home playing with my son and not be there with my son. So it's more about creating rituals of when you're at the office, you're at work, and when you leave, you leave it.