 We're going to talk in depth about that, what he's gone through, but what are we going to do about it? It's one thing to deal with the sadness and the heartache, which Giano certainly has, but then what do we do about it? Where do we go from here? So we're going to learn a little bit more about Giano and his quest to actually be part of the solution, too, and take that tragedy and turn it into something that can be really productive and really helpful to a lot of people. But