 At the same time. And if you say, Lars, he's going to increase the cost of oil. Yes. And he's going to decrease it at the same time. Yes. He's going to do both of those. And we'll get into the details. Larry Behrens joins me now with a group called Power of the Future. Larry, welcome back. And tell us, first of all, let's talk about what Joe Biden is going to do that is going to increase the cost of oil production and hence fuel at the pump for Americans.