 A long journey from there. I went on to Washington, D.C. on the Mitt Romney campaign in 2012. I worked for John Chimpkiss on Capitol Hill for a little bit. And then I started a firm doing some government relations work because I was a lobbyist in Illinois. And then I got to meet a guy by the name of Armstrong Williams, who's Dr. Ben Carson's business manager. And he wanted me to write for The Washington Times, which led me into media.