 oh yeah oh yeah i've never done that i like skinning them hanging i like i like skinning them hanging but i really hate gutting them hanging but honestly i typically even with deer i do the gutless method because it's like you got to go get rid of all that stuff anyways it's like why do you wear gloves have you ever worn gloves i have and partially because when you get done all that blood's in the cuticles of your nails i love that you love that oh yeah