 And she's going to stop by and join us a little bit later this hour because, look, there's a little bit of drama about South Carolina. They're out behind the W. A little bit. South Carolina is in timeout. They're in the corner. They're in Chicago. Yes. I mean, we're in Milwaukee. They've got them in the back of the room. I wonder if Pamela Evatt, the state's lieutenant governor, has some takes on that because there's some political drama in South Carolina. There is. And we'll talk about that. I want to get her overall view of the convention and the great work she's doing.