 Here's a direct quote from him. These huge, enormous EVs are never going to make money. The battery is $50,000. Even with low nickel LFP chemistry, they will never be affordable. Boy, think about where we were 18 months ago, 24 months ago. I mean, they were just pushing as fast as they could, EV. And now so many of these automakers are backing away. So Ford is one of them.