 And they all tend to say, they won't say it like I do, and you can't get them to do it, but in private they will, that only God and his divine intervention is going to save us, but there will be great cataclysm in the meantime. So we all like to think, and here's how I'll say it, to answer your question. On October, on August 31st, 1939, I've been over to Auschwitz 12 times,