 And, um, I'm happy that I got to know him and meet him because I mean, I'm, I'm catching up on all that he knows and all that he's been through and he's, he's all across the board. I like it. He's very similar to me. It's like, there's all this background and, and, and, uh, then all these experiences as well. And I really, really liked that. In fact, one of the