 But we know that it took us a long time to get out of debt. We can get back into that very quickly. And so we're looking for the best way to get back to where we want to be. And if that is, hey, you can buy some land, build a house, and then pay that off like we just paid off a house, then we can do that. But I wanted to get some advice on the best way to do that so we can stay debt-free.