 And I think, let me throw a couple of elements in there that I think he covered in the story, but I've been hearing about these literally for decades. There was a guy named Mike Lindberg, who's the city commissioner, and he told me decades ago, he said, if we go and do a seal coat on top of a street, we do it every four or five or seven or eight years, he says that costs next to nothing, a couple hundred thousand dollars a mile. If we wait until it's cracking, it's half a million a mile. This was back then.