 fabulous if you don't know jack he's a former seal and so these are all that's a good friend navy seal books and they're like you know shoot them up spy movie type stuff and they're great books fiction obviously and uh yeah but so it has a bullet hole in it it's amazing i may want to do that with my next book i think that would be fantastic has absolutely nothing to do with the book which his does but i still want to do it anyway yeah that's pretty cool all right uh kathy's in philadelphia hi kathy welcome to the ramsey show hello um