 some 25 years then. And I thought, why are you saying this? Because your mom is not all right. She's just died. Why are you saying this? And when I talked to Ali afterwards, she said, weren't you there as well? And I said, where? And she said, I was in this place. It was timeless, infinite. It stretched endlessly. And it was filled with information that I couldn't bring back. But it was sort of imbued with this