 My wife couldn't come. I'm there by myself. It's a boring dinner in St. Louis, you know, one of these mayor's things. And there's this other woman sitting across the table. Her husband wasn't there, so we just started chatting. And I said, what's your husband do? And she goes, oh, he does this, but he's a reenactor. I said, oh, well, what's he reenact? He reenacts Pointe du Hoc. She's got to be kidding. So from there, I met John Petrosinski.