 We own an index built off of the S&P small cap 600. To be in the small cap 600, you actually have to be profitable. So when they talk about the Russell, they're talking about the broader universe of small caps, 40% of which actually don't make money, which is why they're so interest rate sensitive because, of course, if you don't make profits, then, of course, your debt's going to be more expensive and it's harder to...