 no yeah i mean a hundred years ago if you walked into the church most churches americans said hey my family's poor i'm out of work i'm trying to find another job can we get a box of food they give you a box of food about six weeks later when you've taken six boxes of food and they say are you still looking for a job and the man or woman says no no you're feeding on my family so i don't need to look for a job anymore the church would cut you off government charities to government welfare tends to be a little bit different than that they want to make sure that they have a good dependent class of people