 uh... with the uh... with an ivy league uh... jurors doctorate and he went then got into the financial enterprise business in san francisco i sense i don't know what specificity but i sense he has done very well in terms of income and uh... and now of course he's uh... run for and elected to the united states senate and uh... is now the uh... the nominee for vice president of the united states at the ripe old age of thirty nine i would be forty in just a matter of weeks