 And welcome back. We're talking with Craig Rucker, the president of CFACT. That's the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. You can find out more about the terrific work they do, get access to their articles and research, and so much more at their website at CFACT.org. That's C-F-A-C-T.org. And we'll link that up on today's show page, which is 14-29. And we're talking about the demise of the Chevron deference, which is also called the Chevron Doctrine.