 matter. So there's a direct connection to that. I also got into technology in the service. I'd mentioned that I was a radio concept repair. Well, when I got to my first duty station, we were with an Intel unit and they didn't really break that stuff. And I didn't want to pick up cigarette butts. So I volunteered to do more computer related work. We were in the same electronic maintenance shop with them. And that's kind of how it got my start. And that's kind of where my career went