 now is that a value it is now are there sympathetic cases where people say but that guy wrong me i just missed the deadline doesn't matter there are lots of deadlines that are there for a reason there's a deadline for filing for candidacy in most places there's a deadline for and they're supposed to be a deadline for voting it used to be if your ballot wasn't in by seven or eight o'clock on election day then didn't get counted and then they wanted to put it on all kinds of exceptions in various places