 uh... the eighth amendment was not about taking power away from the state to deal with indigent and homeless people that's always been the province of state and local governments i'm talking to jim berling from pacific legal the other thing is jim when i hear these you know the justices that say well what are these people supposed to do and i think what most of the people listening to this show right now say you're supposed to drop the drugs drop the alcohol go to the treatment that's offered you