 By the way, Kimberly Cheadle, who you were just talking about in your opening, which was very funny, by the way, Kimberly Cheadle, she said in her ABC interview, she said, and I'm going to quote, it was a very short period of time, end quote, between when they saw the shooter and when they neutralized him. Right, 30 minutes is a short period of time. That short period of time, Wayne, was 30 minutes. So that takes us back to exactly what you were saying. Either she legitimately thinks 30 minutes...