 and have to speak about my experiences if I'm a candidate? Or could I find maybe three different references who can do that so that you're not taxing one reference to speak over and over about it? Cheryl Hyatt, CEO and co-founder of Hyatt Finnell, an executive search firm, and you can find them online at hyattfinnell.com. Cheryl, thank you for joining us today. Thanks so much. Take care.