 And I was drawn to her to ask her why she had a bald head, okay? I love telling this story. Because at that time, she had spent a few years shaving her head because she was on a spiritual journey. And she just shed herself of all her, pretty much all your worldly belongings, including your hair. And when you told me the story of your life, I was like, oh, my gosh. I didn't know who Chet Holmes was. I had never heard of the book.