 Not trained. And I think this is a byproduct of what has been happening with law enforcement for the past 10 years. They're going to jail. They're being indicted. They don't have the confidence to do their job because they think they're going to get fired. Right? So then you see this guy pop up. It's on a negative slope roof. And somebody's low crawling up there. The fact that he did get there is a different story entirely. But then he pops his head up and you see him look. He comes off his optic. He comes back down. And then the fire...