 one more from chris whipple talking about they asked him they asked him because he's a biden biographer he asked him about why is hunter advising joe it's the most demanding job on the planet next to being president uh... it you know and i wrote all about it in my book the gatekeepers how the white house chiefs of staff define every presidency i think science is an organizational genius and i think he's done a good job of uh... you know replacing ron klein those are pictures to sell