 And so the question I have is, when you brought it up to him, how'd the conversation go? Was there an actual conversation? Did you have any potential counterpoints? Or was it just, hey, would you do this? And he said, no. That's what I want to know today. What happened in the conversation when you brought this idea up? Yeah, so I brought up the discussion about the program, given it's a business accelerator. No, no, no, no, no. Not the program. Have you brought up to him...