 invaded ukraine and worse for some reason we're the ones fighting russia our money is anyway let's talk about all that didn't have time to and we had a good long conversation we love having him on make sure you go and check it out tonight on patreon.tv the entire thing will be there on audio always check out our podcast joepags.com on video as well over on rumble so we will make sure that it's available to you wherever we possibly can plus we'll break it down into smaller sections too go to all the social media it's a twitter or x