 Those things will all control them. Of course, the good old seven dust, the carbaryl dust, will work. It's slower because, again, that's a stomach poison type of thing. But it will work. The thing that you have to watch, I mean, by using the insecticides on crape myrtles in particular, is crape myrtles attract a lot of pollinators. And so you're running that risk like you described with your butterfly bush. Mm-hmm.