 And there I have some problems in even understanding the argument, I suppose. I'm not sure I understand why it's in America's interest for Russia to take Ukraine, or why it's of no relevance to us, given that Ukraine not only is a massive grain producer, but also borders a bevy of NATO countries with whom we have mutual security guarantees. Also, obviously granting enormous more resources, access to the Black Sea in new ways to the Russians. I feel like it's in the United States' interest to degrade the Russian military capacity. Beyond that, the sort of