 LMA Convention, we're talking with Matt Perrier here. Matt, you had the opportunity to be one of the panelists at this producer profitability panel. It was really a fascinating conversation. It went a lot of different directions. What does producer profitability look like to you? Well, I think it went a lot of different directions because there are a lot of different directions that profitability comes from and goes to. And I think no two segments, no two regions, no two cattle producers within a neighborhood are the same.