 And so we were long done with the OCA meeting by that particular time. We did spend a good bit of time talking with our friend Ethan Lane, who's the head of the Washington, D.C., office of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. And Ethan indicated that he fully expected the president to drop out of the race. He was thinking it could happen as early as yesterday. He was thinking probably first of the week was when it was probably going to happen.