 joe biden went into that debate as the underdog he was losing this election which is why they said they did it really yes it was clear that they wanted to do this early to do a reset the whole goal was to try to change the conversation away from the trajectory it was already on so i actually think that this process is not over despite what maybe people are saying in washington about you know he we're just not going to be able to do it it's up to him that kind of thing