 sometimes where teams really get creative in September, whether it's going to a six-man, giving guys breaks. Mike Pelfrey was the first one who told me, getting through September your first time is really important, and then it gets easier and easier each time after that. So hopefully that's something that we can talk with Palante, talk with some relievers and guys that haven't been in those deep waters, and hopefully maybe walk them through it a little bit. And then as a staff, I think it's where we need to shine a little bit. It's where we need to make sure that