 Well I think it's different for different guys I always thought from a pitcher's point of view the all-star game was a lot worse than for hitters because you're used to throwing every day and that's what you do now you know hitters throw every day too but you know it's different if that's your primary job and so you know the the specific release point the you know how do I feel when I handle that the slider grip in my hand you feel sometimes you feel like you're