 and you just keep giving him wisdom about controlling anger, maybe he should look into that. Maybe you can plant the seeds of him seeing a doctor. You can plant the seeds of what you do. You know, I understand I get angry too. And when I get angry, this is what I do. I put it into something constructive or I go and I read the Psalms or whatever it is and say, you do what you want. I just know that works for me. These types of things, you impart small things at a time and they will continue to sink in.