 with the guys, particularly on the J.A. Ranch and also the Four Sixes Ranch and the Swenson one. You know, you and I have been out to the Swenson. But to go out there to these places and to ride the miles and actually live the life with them for a while is to experience it. And, in fact, you later called that or addressed that. You said, well, it really turned around for me as an artist.