 He was very, very sharp. He knew the game, always knew the game, but continued to know it even after being out of the game of baseball. So certainly we're going to miss Whitey Herzog very deeply and strongly. And I know the Cardinal alumni that were at the game who I'm very connected to. I know meaningful for them to honor Whitey that particular day. And also thinking about during that ceremony that there were several stories that Whitey Herzog would have about Ozzie Smith.