 It's hard for the radio, but you can imagine. It's about a couple foot high fire hydrant, and now Riley is on top of it. Yeah, so it's hard to describe over audio. But, yeah, basically we teach them to jump on anything that's elevated and has a clear boundary. And they just have to stay there until I touch them on the head and say break or I give them a new command. So break. And now she's free to do whatever she wants because our number one goal is obedience but never at the expense of the dog's personality. That is JT Lawson with Make Your Dog Epic Threat.