 who falls or goes back down or something. That's what the reports are saying. I don't understand that. Why wouldn't you at that point... Way too much time elapsed on that deal. He should have been took out the first time anybody saw him. Of course, like you said, Chief, hindsight's 20-20, but it looks like to me, why did they even allow that ladder to be there? And I don't know what kind of ladder it was. Does anybody know that yet?