 You know, but, you know, Whitey was that guy that knew the right way to make everybody on your team feel important. And we're talking about handling a bullpen. I mean, did anybody handle a bullpen in that era better than Whitey? I don't think so. No, without a doubt. You know, I remember talking to him. I used to try to talk to him a lot during games. And, you know, he would throw questions at you. But one day we were talking about, you know, building his pitching staff. You know, I was always equipped.