 Don Dobie was breaking horses when something was wrong and had Dr. Worms or something, she'd tell him where he's at, what pastor. So that was her job then in the summer during the war years because they couldn't harden old men. There just wasn't nobody. And Dad at the wagon, all he had was little old kids, school kids working for him then that wasn't in the war. Yeah. We're talking about those worms and the screw worm fly. Yeah.