 consensus of you about what we want the economy to be, what we want the market to be able to produce, and to put a little bit of a thumb on the scale to make that possible. So on a generalized level, I obviously disagree with that as I made clear in that interview where actually both of us are beardless at the time. I'm much more free market than JD is, but he's an excellent and intelligent expositor of his position on these issues.