 I never took that seriously because I never believed the man. But when I see people like J.D. Vance and people like him or don't like him, I don't think that you can dispute that he came up in a way that a lot of flyover nation can recognize. Tell me a little bit about how you think that's going to play out to a nation because you got Scranton Joe, which I think is like a manufactured, hard scrabbled upbringing compared to J.D. Vance, who lived it and was very transparent about it.