 then all of a sudden your civilization starts to discard children. And that's exactly why Jesus had to be explicit in his teaching about protecting children. Not every civilization has gotten that right. I'm afraid where we're headed. Pastor, please stay right there. Check out his new book, The War on Children. We are here with the legend, Pastor John MacArthur, who has been pastor of Grace Community Church for 55 years. That is an incredible accomplishment to be a pastor of the same church for 55 years. We'll be right back, everybody.