 I've known Donald since I first moved to New York in 1982. And he was already a good friend of Frank's at that point. And his father, Fred, they all used to play golf together at all those great golf courses in that area. And, you know, I try to avoid politics because long ago, Billy Graham said to me, Kathy, the only thing I really regret in my life was getting involved with politics. God has put you on this planet to be in the entertainment world.