 Well, you know, it does come from practice. Many years ago, I went to visit. I so admired the great Western artist Tom Ryan. Oh, my goodness. But I sent a letter to him years ago, and I said, Mr. Ryan, can I come see you? I'd seen his work, and I just was so moved by it. And I said, can I come see you, and you tell me how to do what you do? And he, in a return mail, invited me out. We went out there, had some people we could stay with,