 And I just remember this conversation very well at the moment because I think it's relevant to the conversation now. Let me just turn this TV down here, Mike, and I'll give you a bit more context. So at that time, I said, well, what do you do then? You know, you got to go to Kamala Harris, obviously. And this person suggested not necessarily. I said, why would that be? He said, what we could do is we could go to Chicago, which, by the way, starts four weeks from tomorrow.