 Those two guys, when they showed up to the ballpark, you didn't know what was on their mind, but they had no hip potential virtually every night. Without a doubt. And when you would watch them, and they were very cerebral. They were both the same kind of guy. But their stuff was so electric where they could show you. And back then, the radar gun didn't have as much of an impact as it has now. But I'm sure they'd go 97, and then they could bring it back and throw you something that you had no chance.