 Well, Snopes says that her daughters were conceived via IVF. Yeah, she's admitted. Michelle admitted to that. That they came in vitro fertilization. So I don't know if they were just in vitro fertilized and then placed in her womb. Or had a surrogate. Did she have a surrogate? But Snopes says, although we cannot confirm that no pictures identified as such exist or are available to the public, our efforts to find them using open source tools have so far failed.