 multiple things he has done as president has said as president as a candidate for for the presidency again that deserve to be pointed out deserve to be criticized that's yeah you got that um we're not vilifying donald trump we're just talking about uh how much we hate donald trump and his bad character and we're saying all the things he did are a threat to democracy this is very much got to be poultice because uh joe biden defended himself on nbc news the same way