 about that you know and you know those those little guys are are always you know feisty and i know when i i'd go over and do you know turner you know tnt and nba tv and those guys man they'd be in the back arguing and going at it all the time man but it was it was it was fun to watch man watching your favorite players man sit back there and argue and uh you know kind of talk basketball those were fun times but make no mistake man those guys are still uber competitive