 Who else came? Chip Carey. Chip Carey. It was another former player there. And we just sat around and just talked the game about how this worked and how that worked. Benji. Benji Molina. Benji Molina. Benji Molina. Catchers. Because that's how it started. I think you asked Benji a question. Yeah. And Benji took it from there. Fascinating.