 couple minute phone call. But a couple of things that I do want you to think about are it's OK for you to mourn the loss of your daughter. Because that does take place. That really does. And I think people are fearful of saying that because they think that it's automatically a judgment towards the transgender community. And it's not. It's a reality. So if you think of it this way, if you take all the politics off it and you strip all of that, the emotions and all those things, and you think of it