 where some of the soft areas are in terms of support for shooting and hunting. And we'll try to figure out why this trend is taking place. We're not just talking to editors from Outdoor Life magazine this show. Oh, no, we're going to take you to Washington State where you can go fly fishing for trout and steelhead and salmon. And one person who's been offering guided fly fishing trips since 1988 is Jack Mitchell. I've known this guy for a long time.