 I was looking at a picture of you when you joined the department. Man, you look like a kid. I was. I was. I was 18 years old. So had you had any experience at all? Did you start as a volunteer? Did you come on regularly? So actually, I graduated out of high school in May of 1989. And literally, like three days after, Dean Brown reached out to me about being a volunteer. And I got on just immediately as a volunteer. And