 are people just not moving out of those homes because they can't afford to upgrade or they don't want to upgrade or are we not building the right kinds of houses we're not building enough starter homes so a lot of people that would like to move but they do the math and they go well i'll just stay where i am or maybe they'll remodel or whatever you bring up yes there is a shortage of starter homes we've been documenting that for many many years that's why i already mentioned that