 those peers that go out in Florida, and he started bothering the fishermen. I said, hey, Roger, you can't ask those guys questions like that. It would be like somebody coming up and asking you for an autograph. What kind of bait are you using? Things like that. He said, I've got to learn this stuff because I'm going to go. Well, he was going to go fly fishing. He probably was going to go fly fishing with Kurt Gowdy up there in Wyoming. First year for you in St. Louis? Seventy-four.