 He is never giving it up. He is never changing. I just think it's hilarious. At MSNBC in the green room, it's, oh my gosh, well, if Obama says, Obama can't be president again, and his wife's not running, and nobody cares, okay? They can say whatever they want, but Joe Biden gets to make the final call here, and I think he views this as an opportunity to show everybody. And you have to think of this as building up.