 It was a horrible experience, but we got it. And we ended up getting on the first floor of this building, and it worked out for us for years. And I thought at that moment, this is what I got to do. I got to be able to speak up no matter how tough it is. Good for you. You're listening to Jason in the House. We'll be back with more of my conversation with Kim Klesik right after this. More Jason in the House next.