 And we've seen it on both sides, and I think it's incredibly dangerous, and it is incumbent upon our leaders and upon the people in media and communications to raise the level of the rhetoric. We're going to see more of this. We're out of time, gentlemen. Thank you for both being on the program this morning. Thank you. Thank you for having us. You bet. We'll talk to you next week. Jeff Brong and Rick Farmer on the program this morning.