 What was the conversation like? Usually there's a private conversation with the president. At least now there is. I don't know if there was then. Did you get a chance to spend a little time with the president? Nixon, yeah. I've always respected Nixon. He actually sent me a copy of every book he ever wrote. He always said, but you know, a lot of people don't know that during World War I, he was Secretary of the Navy. And he hugged my mom and gave her a very humbling, the president hugged me, nobody else. He never hugged nobody else. And he's