 and tie some clear fishing line around it and hang it from the gutter. Oh, from the gutter, okay. Down into that area where it will disturb their area. I mean, if you want to try a snake, I would put it on the gutter, kind of tilting down, but I've never done that, so I don't know how it will work. But I have done the CDs, and I've had luck with that. Okay.