 I view it from both sides, that it wasn't just turning his head. It was the whole situation. I think that's a smart way to look at it, talking with our friend John Rich. And I agree with you on the way he looked, because I've known him for over 10 years. He used to come on the radio show all the time. I introduced him at CPAC some years ago. I have never seen him get emotional. I've never seen him get like...