 Finally, he took me out of a game and benched me, and I basically asked my dad. My dad said, if you want to quit, go ahead and quit. So my dad got me on a team over across the bay, a semi-pro team that I played on weekends. I was a 17-year-old kid playing semi-pro against college guys. And the El Cerrito Cardinals, believe it or not, and they had Cardinal uniforms.