 because of their pitching and their defense, right? You have Pedro Pajas at second base, who is a terrific defensive catcher. If you take him out of the game and pinch run for him, well, you've got to run Contreras out there for two games when he's still coming back from injury, and you lose Pajas' great defensive ability behind the plate. So that was a really, really tough call for him. Carpenter's strikeout was a big blow in that inning for St. Louis.