 Yes, Jen Stoltenberg is the Secretary General of NATO, and Mark Rutte is going to replace him in October. But that's late. I hear Rutte is not quite the warmongering nut that Jen Stoltenberg is, who is our guy, of course. We put him in there. But I don't know that. And October is going to be really late because, as I said, what we need is what you intimated at the beginning. We need a ceasefire, and we need to sit down and talk and communicate.