 And so much of this, they didn't start this way. I mean, remember when you were dating, how you were pursuing your spouse and you would do anything. You just sit on the phone, listen to them breathe. I mean, everything was glorious. And you get into patterns and rhythms and behaviors and life happens in kids and work and all these things begin to take place. And the good habits you had in place of that pursuit and being intentional and sitting and listening and actually looking at one another.