 kind of got into this a bit later, and did you always want to do this, or was it just kind of more happenstance as you had the opportunities in this junior town to kind of move up the ranks there? And I'm also, just because we're going so far back to the LA Kings, how did you get your tape out there? Was it cutting it together? I mean, for us that don't know, I mean, just how do you actually physically put that tape together and get it out to the LA Kings? Well, let me back up. I was 17 when I got my first radio job, so I was probably...