 I, when he first started being interviewed on all these different programs, he was a poor other Trump, which I didn't know that. I was one of the first people to interview him. I'm pretty much close to what Fox, you know, he's a professor with some, I can't think, you know, who killed me? I can't think of the answer to it, but talk to Victor Hanson. You just, you know, and you see him. You see him on the...