 to prove that one way or another, but that's what he relied upon throughout the discussion, while President Biden seemed to indicate, once again, his strong support for Ukraine and his efforts to bring together European allies in the defense of Ukraine. He also underscored, of course, he, Biden, his support for the State of Israel and the need to destroy Hamas's military capabilities if at all possible, while Trump, on the other hand, in terms of Gaza, said something his campaign has repeated.