 and thought, you know what, this guy, the conductor, Eduard Koeniger, who writes snappy operettas and theater music and even film scores, is just the guy to be playing a piece like the Pastoral Symphony. Yes, Mengelberg does his thing and he's just an incredible genius, Mengelberg. But then this guy gives it a really snappy, you can see that the orchestra is into it and he's doing his best and he's got that rhythmic flair.