 I would call them crimes that are being perpetrated on the American people and not say we can't do better, we know we can do better, and actually have the in-depth reporting on why it is that a reform could and would work in this country. All right, then. We've been speaking with David Himmelstein, and you can access the analysis we've been talking about through jamanetwork.com. David Himmelstein, thank you so much for joining us this week on Counterspin. Thanks again for having me.