 They have built this habit of avoidance and built this habit that I'm not going to address those things because I might be afraid of conflict or I already know what they're going to say or what they're going to do. So what happens is we begin to be silent and silence is not a strategy. It's not helpful. Avoidance is not a strategy, but we tend to see couples who do that because they're framed by, oh, in our family, we didn't do this.