 President Biden and former President Donald Trump. Both debaters' microphones are also going to be muted while the other is speaking in order to follow a more uniform debate structure. And there's going to be no props or pre-written notes that are going to be permitted on the stage. And the candidates are also going to have a pen, a piece of paper to write on, or, you know, a pad, something to write on, and a bottle of water. And then it's going to be broadcasted at 9 p.m. Eastern time on