 He wasn't awed by it. As you know, we have a fall debate coming up as well. As I said, we'll talk to Brother Herb Boyd about it and see what Herb's thoughts are, recognizing the level of history that precedes this and ultimately sets the stage for where we are and the important stage that we are on in relationship to the multiple level of issues that are facing us in our own development as a community and certainly in this instance as a nation as well.