 And, of course, the way the strategy of the debate was, their mics were muted, so they couldn't really talk over each other. They had the two minutes, the two minutes, the one minute, the one minute. So they couldn't talk over each other. But it was interesting because, remember, Joe Biden and his team were the ones who wanted this debate. They're the ones who set the ground rules for this debate. And he's the one who fell apart before our eyes. And there was a chance.