 And so that was very challenging, but as challenging as that was, it was also liberating because I started planning to get back into a live space almost six, seven months before. Now I had gone to New York and I saw Broadway and saw plays, but we were with masks on. And even during that period of time, we still were doing, we weren't back into full spaces and colleges and museums and things like that. The theater had wanted to come back. So it