 to tell kind of alternative stories about the media? Yeah, and I've been working in media for a long time, not just film, but underground newspapers and radio, and I work in television, film, etc. So I'm really interested in communications. And yeah, I have been a member of this group called Paper Tiger Television for a very long time. With both of you being professors at UC Davis, how does your academic background relate to country music and the research you undertook for Open Country?