 And the guy who got up, the facilitator, was the principal of a Catholic school in Washington, got up and he said, racism equals prejudice plus power. What? I thought racism was animus or hatred toward another racial group. What's this thing about plus power? And I walked up to him afterwards and I said, I didn't agree with that definition. He said, well, it's not really for you to agree or disagree. That's what the definition is.