 She's hoping, and she just sounds delightful. It's a long interview. I cut it down from 23 minutes to 11 minutes, and at one point in the middle, it gets a little scratchy, but the conversation is so great, I left it in. You'll hear it, and it's Art Ford interviewing, of all people. Art Ford was really known for being a jazz DJ, and he had a jazz show on television, and...