 When he came to New York, he met with me a couple of places and he was telling me, yeah, I'm going to use the money to buy weapons. We have an army in the field. And I was like looking at him. I didn't think he was FBI because I thought he was even too crazy to be an FBI informant by just the way he was talking openly about that, because that was never done. I've been in the Republican movement most of my adult life. No one ever talked like he did.