 But ultimately, what happens when you're going through a difficult season? What happens when you can't have those children? But if my purpose to be married is God and I want to reflect him in my marriage to my spouse and others, then it makes getting through those moments a bit easier. And so we look at the purpose of marriage is God. We're called to honor God. We're called to reflect him to the world around us. And that has sustained us for the last 31 years in our marriage.