 very good and very popular, but I do have to say Pratt had a huge engineering program. It was a big architecture school. It wasn't totally gay friendly. It was weird. I remember my communications professor, this guy Jerry, saying, John, stop talking with your hands. I said, what do you mean? He says, you're just too feminine. Just stop talking with your hands. And I was like, I just can't believe this. And it was like,