 We need to have conversations about this more on the floor. We need to have open dialogue. And that's it. We shouldn't be jumping to react so quickly. But I condemn what's going on over there. So go ahead and bomb them, right? Kind of like that. If you had to compare Avril Harriman to somebody in the United States government today other than Joe Biden, who would you compare him to just so the audience can get a grasp of who this guy is like? I mean, I got somebody in my mind right now, Professor, but you go first.