 and talk about what it means to us on July 5th. Other black people through the 19th century said, no, we're not even going to celebrate that. We'll celebrate West Indian Day. We'll celebrate that. Or we'll celebrate January 1st, 1808, when slavery was supposed to end. So we'll celebrate that day, but we won't celebrate the other one. And it wasn't just black people. William Lloyd Garrison, who's a famous abolitionist,