 The thing I would say, though, I use Van Joe's example. I think if you watched ABC, NBC, any of the other networks tonight, you couldn't watch anything but this. I know everyone is unplugged and what they are. That's fine. But it's all about the spin afterwards and the press coverage. I don't know anyone that is going to put in print a headline or the first paragraph that said anywhere under the sun this was good for Joe Biden.