 A lot of the Kenyans were not consulted when this debt was being taken out. There wasn't the proper public participation that was necessary when this debt was being incurred. And Kenyans cannot see or they cannot feel the positive consequences of this debt and what it did in the country. And in fact, there are reports that some of this debt never even made it to the country due to corruption. We have our president, our former president, Guru Kenyatta, on record saying that we're losing at least $20 million a day to corruption.