 And he said, look, he was a sniper, too. He was a Marine Corps scout sniper before he went to be a Green Beret, so he knows all about marksmanship and things like that. And he said, I prefer a heavier round. And we were having a discussion on the air about why. He said, look, you shoot a guy with an AR-15, sometimes he drops right away, sometimes he doesn't. He said, I remember the first time I shot somebody with a 7.62, he said he went down like the fist of God hit him.