 I remember, I remember seeing Jeff play bass and Jeff had hair down to his freaking ankles and he's got like real blonde hair. And I remember seeing him when he was a kid, you know, you know, we've been around for like 25 years. So like seeing him like 15, whatever it was years ago and said, that kid's awesome on stage. It looks great. You know? And, uh, it's, it's amazing. Like fast forward, you know, the relationships or the, or the bonds you make unbeknownst to you through your performance as a member later on. Right. And, uh,