 My name is Abden Palish, and this is from a series of tapes I recorded 20 years ago. I can't say where the tapes were recorded because Dave Rupert is still in hiding to this day. My name is Bob Hergeth. Back then, Abden and I were reporters at the Chicago Sun-Times. That's when we started on our journey to tell Dave's story in a book all three of us were collaborating on as co-authors.