 You know, I was, I was always a fan. Uh, I was a hockey fan growing up. I, I didn't have the ability or the talent to play the game. I tried, but, uh, as a big rotund defenseman, I had difficulty skating backwards and I could talk a better game than play one. So when I got into the radio business and that had been a goal, I think as a, as a youngster, as a teenager, especially getting into, into radio. And I was basically a disc jockey news.