 Not that I don't know him. In fact, he's a person I hear really frequently, but never in a focus. And I think the beauty about listening to a drummer like this today, we're going to move from about 54 to 58, is that, well, you hear him with a lot more people. When we listened to Pepper Adams the last two weeks, we heard roughly very similar personnel. A lot of Duke Pearson, a lot of Donald Byrd, wonderful stuff. But I think with Art Taylor, because he's recording so many sessions, we're going to hear him with more people. And that's an interesting change.