 The pre-Trump era. The pre-Trump era is exactly that. It's a pre-Trump era. It's over for Republicans. And when it's not Trump, it's going to be J.D. Vance or someone exactly like him. Right. In other words, Trumpism is here to stay. It is the Republican Party now that I've chosen J.D. Vance. There's no going back anymore, Michael. Thank you, Mike. This is really helpful. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me.