 to say, because actually I'm not really fine right now, and I'm not sure if it will be okay at this moment. Well, lots of tips there. Thank you for those. And lots to remember. It sounds as though realistic optimism is good, but sitting with difficult emotions sometimes is okay. But we should also choose our words very carefully if we're trying to comfort someone else. Well, I want to thank my panelists today, clinical psychologist Linda Blair, inclusion and well-being consultant Benji Kuzi,