 And, you know, this was sort of a thing that I guess I expected in a way. I didn't know that these two men were going to be there. And I don't even know that, you know, this was planned or not planned or whatnot or spontaneous. But they have their own way to communicate to their own followers. And there is a sense, you know, the Bundys have given many interviews. They just gave one to the Associated Press. They've given interviews to me over the years. And then on the other hand...