 And you'll hear a longer conversation between me and Gary a little later in the programme. One of those eyewitnesses that Gary spoke to was Gray, who said he'd spotted the gunman and told the Secret Service, but they didn't pay attention until after the shots were fired. We had a party here all day at the Brinkles Farm and Greenhouse here, and we all decided, hey, you know, when we hear Trump up there, we're going to walk up through the field, stand by the trees up there under the shade, and listen to the rally, right? We couldn't see him, but we could hear him.