 And the second one, she just became a different person in fighting off, well, shooting her attacker. That's our first-person defender series, where we take regular people and drop them into self-defense situations, and we just see how they do. It is eye-opening and instructive, and I think it will get you thinking a bunch. All right, 866-TALK-GUN gets you in right now. You can join us live, or you can be a part of the after show if you want to. I'm Tom Gresham. We'll be right back with more Gun Talk.