 of vitality to him, told me about one of his sons, who's 66, who still does triathlons, and his grandson, who was an undrafted walk-on at the NFL. And from there, in the middle of Starbucks, I'm listening to this great-grandfather with stories to tell and lessons to teach. And he said next month, he and his wife are going to celebrate 70 years of marriage. And he told me about the Alaska cruise their kids sent them on for their 50th anniversary.