 And also, I think people tend to put the emphasis on what he has constructed and built and not look at the very high price that has been paid in terms of human rights. Critics have called him an authoritarian. What can you tell us about how that label may or may not apply? I think that's a very appropriate label. I would also use the word hard man, strong man, and also dictator. Rwanda today, people go there and they're amazed by the