 Well, ultimately, recusal should be done in a situation where there is, in fact, a conflict. So it's most typically done if a public official is going to the private sector and you don't want that individual, while they're in their public office, to make decisions that would benefit a future employer. In this case, since both are going to another public agency, another government agency, we have not been able to identify any, quote-unquote, conflict of interest that would require recusal.