 I said, so if either of those opportunities are unlikely, is either side willing to sit down and say, then let's broker a peace. And it's going to involve some giving maybe from both sides, maybe mostly from Ukraine. And they say, well, that's not going to happen either. I said, so basically, we just have another 20-year war that we're going to fund for a couple of decades with no end in sight and no possibility of overall victory by either side and no possibility of a brokered peace. That sounds like a terrible situation to be in.