 That today is not something that she's going to want to talk about again. But I remember talking to David Axelrod for my profile. This was last fall. And he said, there's such a title shift in a way where there's a vacuum for somebody to step in and say, I am a progressive, but the Democratic Party can have the answer for crime. And he was sort of astonished that she hadn't stepped in to kind of claim that role.