 Samson said, man, did you see that little boy? We're going to get that little boy and get him on our team. I said, well, I know him. I know his dad. Layman Ramsey, a Birmingham native, knows Cat Mays through their wives. Any questions for Willie would have to go through Cat first. So Cat said, well, I let him go. I said, but you have to take care of him. He agreed to let Mays go with us.