 And in many ways, we've made the Federal Reserve job even more difficult, squeezing inflation out. And almost no one has actually spent time on that. There's a couple of good academic articles if you want to geek out. All right. We use this chart over and over and over because we're trying to help people understand. Do you see the blue? The blue is what we get to vote on. You do understand every dime a member of Congress votes on is borrowed. And part of this. So interest, this number is wrong now. Interest, if you do a gross interest, is 1.2%.