 In 1980, he released The River and he had the hit with Hungry Heart. But that was the first big hit he had, top 10 hit he had. And he's trying to figure out where do I go from here? What's my next step? How do I reach the brass ring? Like, how do I grab it this time and hang on to it? So that's kind of where we are when the record company said, maybe you'd like to consider doing a remix. We think this would be a good idea. Everybody was doing that then.