 I mean, it's an extraordinary challenge that you're describing from the perspective of those of us who are just trying to understand these events as news or current events. It's really easy to assume that the people who are waging war in these ways, especially without making any accommodations for civilian safety, are somehow less than human, sort of not to be dealt with. You don't have the luxury of doing that if you want to bring all the stakeholders together and try to forge a solution.