 Well, they're hard to find right now, and I've been looking for a .45 ACP carbine for a long time. There weren't that many out there, and then there were some really cheap ones or some really expensive ones, but not in that middle range. And then Ruger came out with, I can't think of a gun, but they made it 9mm forever, neat little carbine, and they now make that in .45.