 are a couple of signs and that's about it. There are people going out there. Of course, when I was there right now, you know, it's pretty hot. So you're not going to see too many people out there as tourists, but they have been getting tourists and there aren't really any amenities. And there also aren't really any, at least when I was there, any federal land manager presence, at least not visibly. What there are is a pretty large scale cattle operation, one that's been going on there for decades, as you say, but it's been