 And we know that there's the most enormous love there. Yeah, no, I mean, it's a scene of great wrong. I mean, I wanted to... Carmel, to me, is a tragic character because she feels that she has failed as a mother and as a parent. But that's actually the commonplace tragedy of every mother on the planet, that the failure is built in. I'm glad you've taken me in that direction, because, you know, you've written eight novels, but you've also written other stuff, including a book, a sort of fact book...