 my sense of memory was quote-unquote more animal-like in the moment didn't make that pain unmeaningful. So I think that was kind of a rambly and long-winded way of saying that even though pain can be very different in other species, that doesn't mean that it's less than what we experience and it could very well be more, right? Like there's this tendency to sort of think of whatever the human standard of a capacity or a behavior is as kind of the