 Trump, to your point, I agree with you. He's an instinctive, impulsive, intuitive nationalist. J.D. Vance is an ideological nationalist. That's a much more dangerous virus because he can make this... I'm sorry, J.D. Vance is a virus? Carrie, anything on that? I don't know what he's talking about. Back it up. What's your evidence for saying something like that? He's a virus.