 So I will first say that I've paired a lot of artichokes the Roman way and I'm still learning. You know, the real experts are if you go to the Roman Jewish ghetto and you go outside of any restaurant, you'll see a guy sitting on a chair with blue gloves on, peeling away the layers of darker leaves to expose the softer inside. And like they work so fast and it is so fascinating to watch them work. I could literally, I'm mesmerized.