 For me to kind of humbly have that experience from doing pile burning and cleaning up and reducing the fire danger around my grandfather's house, my mom's dad, there and at their property in the Sierra Foothills outside of Sacramento near Jackson, California, that was really kind of, you know, like, whoa, okay, that was humbling. But at the same time, it was also a place I was very much tied to kind of in my own California native traditions by doing a lot of hunting and gathering acorns there. Still a lot of the Northwest California traditions I still brought to the foothills when I finished high school down in Sacramento.