 Yeah, he was a bit chaotic and drunk, yeah. Because what's then interesting, because this isn't just a question of sort of male chauvinism or domestic violence, Carmel, who is a complex character herself, she then, in one particular moment of anguish, is abusive to her daughter Nell in a very graphic scene. I mean, I think many readers are kind of shocked by that scene in this book. It's mother against daughter violence. Yes.