 With me today is Steve Rosenberg, the BBC's Russia editor on the line from Moscow. Hi, Steve. Hello, good to be with you. And Gennady Kot from BBC Monitoring, who is also Belarusian and is speaking to us from Kiev today. Hi, Gennady. Hi, Katrina. Now, Steve, you've actually interviewed Alexander Lukashenko at his headquarters, a palace in Minsk. What was that experience like?