 Both of the presidents performed quite well. And Biden, in certain statistics, actually does better than Trump did. So Biden sometimes in our fact checking has kind of exaggerated some of his achievements in this regard. But it certainly is the case that both Trump and Biden have something to cheer about and something to tout. Thank you very much, Lou Jacobson, chief correspondent for our editorial partner, PolitiFact. Nice to talk to you, Lou. Thank you.