 And then there's the world accommodating, which are kind of neutral. They don't think the world's bad or good. They just do their jobs, get along in society, and then they have their own spiritual path. So they might do Zen meditation once a week at the center, and then they go home and meditate every day for an hour. And they have a leader who's an ordinary human being, but has reached a certain level of consciousness, a higher level than they. But they have the possibility of achieving that too.