 And what came next was a full-scale freakout inside several factions of the Democratic Party. My old boss, David Plouffe, who I'm going to talk to in just a minute, and who has one of the smartest political minds in the country, called it a DEFCON 1 moment that night. And he was right. It was. I mean, within the first 10 minutes of that debate, the question was being asked here in Washington and Capitol Hill offices and group chats all over my phone and editorial meetings across the country whether Joe Biden should carry on as the Democratic nominee.