 And the AIDS activists who were accusing you or accusing NIH also and the Allergies and Infectious Diseases of not providing data to activists on AIDS. I'm going to ask you to hold your thought there because we have to head into a quick break. But when we come back, I want to hear from you about the lessons that you learned in dealing with the public and dealing with politicians when trying to confront and find a cure for a radical and new disease. So that's what we'll talk about when we come back.