 Going into the specifics of the interview, he seemed to have a few moments of essentially having two trains of thought kind of clash into each other and kind of derail the answer that he was giving. So one of the clear examples of that in that interview was when he was essentially talking about what was happening on the debate stage. When did he realize that maybe he wasn't giving his best performance since he kept saying that it was just a bad night. It was just a bad night.