 That's Abby Wambach. Her podcast is called We Can Do Hard Things. And by the way, the U.S. team ended up losing in the final of that World Cup, but came back four years later in 2015 and with Abby won the championship. On the show today, the psychology of winning. I'm Manoush Zomorodi and you're listening to the TED Radio Hour from NPR. Stay with us.