 That's it for today's Arts Hour. Thank you to Guy Lodge and thank you for listening. If you want to be in touch with the show, do email theartshour at bbc.co.uk. We'd love to hear from you. For now, from me, Nikki Bady, studio manager Bob Nettles and producers Lucy Collingwood and Oliver Jones, see you next week. You're listening to KUNR Public Radio.