 Namely, the narrative goes as follows. If people really want to die, why don't we grant them the possibility to die? But my point is that the liberty of some affects also a societal norm. And this, he thinks, may make a society less resilient, less cohesive, its people less able to support each other. Back in the camper van, looking out on bobbing boats in a sunlit marina, the one-hour visit I'd agreed with Jan is rapidly coming to an end.