 And they interviewed him for days, like a few days. So I had my own video camera rolling, which was amazing because I was able to get all that, you know, life story from him. And we made transcripts out of them, which is how I was able to go back and really do a deep dive on his life and his story for the book. It's Bullseye. I'm Jesse Thorne. We're here with Serge Tankian. He is lead singer of System of a Down.