 But the reality is both of them handled it in the way they handled it with great leadership, if you will, at that time. I remember when I went and saw my father at 10 o'clock the following morning and walked into the room. And my father reminded me that he had been shot the day before. And I looked at my dad and said, the world knows you were shot dead yesterday. This is not a surprise to me. And he talked about Hankling.