 Ernan told us about this moment when he realized his relationship to finance had changed through the process of writing Trust. This was before the book came out in 2022, back when interest rates were still historically low. I was refinancing my mortgage as I was proofreading. And you were like, I am locking in these rates, my friend. Yes. And believe it or not, I felt that I could kind of follow what I was being asked to not bother myself.