 It was someone who fomented political violence. And so in a way, Biden has been running against Trump as someone connected to political violence, or at least who would accept it. Trump, for his part, was asked in the presidential debate just a few weeks ago whether he would say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable. And he said, well, I shouldn't have to say that. But of course, I believe that it's totally unacceptable.