 yeah and interesting you you say that 50s and earlier 60s when of course there was peace in northern ireland and that relative peace anyway there were tensions but there was relative peace and then all of that changed in the very late 60s and we know this not least from the film that you were involved with with kenneth branner which so powerfully portrayed that moment in i think 1969 when the communal sectarian tensions in northern ireland really spilled over and it was