 I mean, that's all that we can assume. I hope to never have to experience that and know what that's like. But I sat there wondering if he was alive for a good 45 seconds. My father-in-law was actually behind him at the rally. I sat there wondering if he was alive. And I am a changed woman after last Saturday. And I'm sure everyone else is as well. Many thanks, Elizabeth Pipko, who's spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee. Live from Milwaukee, this is the BBC World Service and NewsHour.