 So what Paul's saying about the National Rally and Marine Le Pen there, Sophie, it would sound like it's too soon to write them off just yet. Oh, I think they're in this for a long game. I mean, if you look at what Marine Le Pen has been trying to do with this party, this has been a long-term project, over a decade old now, to try to reinvent this movement that used to be completely... exist only on the fringes as a kind of pariah movement with a protest culture...