 Des Ishenguma, a malaria expert with the Tanzanian National Institute for Medical Research, is also worried, having seen the transformation artemisinin made in the past. Roland, I can tell you, the situation before artemisinin came in, when I started my career back in the early 2000s, you would go in a clinic and in a ward and you would find sick babies on the beds and on the floor. You would have nowhere to walk through.