 And that the fact that we love our country and our people does not mean that we hate others. Not at all. Therefore, there are more and more people, younger people in particular, who say, well, hang on, what's the difference between the National Rally and the Gaullist Party or the old Gaullist Party? Because on the right wing of the Gaullist Party, they're saying pretty much the same thing on issues of immigration and security and so on.