 I'm Jesse Thorne. You're listening to Bullseye. I'm talking with Serge Tankian. He's the lead singer of System of a Down. He has a new memoir. It's called Down with the System. When you make music as intense as the music of System of a Down, and look, you know, your orchestral compositions are also intense. There's certainly some of the most growl-oriented orchestral compositions out there.