 So another hallmark of rumination is that I think we feel as if we're making progress on some problem, like we're thinking about something and we think, OK, if we think about this problem, we can now make progress and solve the problem. And then, as you say, moments later, we're pinballing off 17 different things and then we don't realize it, but we are walking in circles. We're like the people who are lost in a forest who are walking in circles. Can you talk about that, that one of the hallmarks of rumination is it