 So let me ask how concerned people who want to preserve democracy should be in Trump's first term as president. Not everyone he picked loyally executed his wishes. As we've talked about, Pence refused to overturn the 2020 election. It would have been unlawful to do so. There was also Defense Secretary James Mattis was a safety break against some of his more anti-democratic impulses. Vance, though, seems the loyal foot soldier.