 Yeah, he's a big part of their campaign strategy, their effort to get working class voters across states like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania. Vance, as I said earlier, is from Ohio, but he's often mentioned how important Michigan is. Trump won Michigan in 2016, but Biden flipped it four years ago. And Trump is very, very eager to win back the state. All right. That was NPR's Franco Ordonez in Michigan. Franco, thank you. Thank you.