 Was he born with this gift? Well, remember what I said, everybody's born with it, but yeah, he developed it himself. He didn't get taught about it. So he was born in Telluride, Colorado. He was a Westerner. He was born in Telluride, Colorado, and then he grew up in Utah, which is the state I live in now. He spent his teenage and young adult years here and went to college in Salt Lake at Westminster College and