 Well, that is kind of weird, isn't that weird? Because this is what, what is it, James Clyburn, I think I got some James Clyburn audio, and he said that Joe Biden did a hell of a job. I'll find that in a second. And then we'll also get to Carmen. You hold on a second. 800-922-6680. This is the Rob Carson Show. 1230 a.m., 98.5 FM, KELY.