 Welcome back to The Invention of Race, a documentary special from the Scene on Radio podcast. I'm John Bewin. So... Here's Suzanne Plisik again of the Racial Equity Institute, leading that workshop for adult professionals in Charlotte. Let me ask you, when people began to immigrate to this hemisphere from Europe and from Africa, in the 1400s, 1500s, and early 1600s, did they come identified by race?