 And he was regarded then as a moderate compared to them, Jean-Marie Le Pen. But, of course, his reputation became sulfurous, as the French would say. And, you know, he became the great sort of bogeyman of French politics for many years. His daughter then took over the party. And while being true up to a point to her father's sort of legacy in terms of being very strong on immigration and the nation and so on, has succeeded...