 You know, Aisha, when you talk with her, you really get a sense of the hopelessness that many 9-11 family members feel. Listen to this, too. How many years of this pre-trial hearings are we going to have to put up with where a plea agreement, there was an actual end in sight? But what I find with things at Guantanamo, it's always maybe two steps forward, six steps back, maybe six steps forward, two back.