 That's Kramer in 1991. Now, here's the question I want to ask. I mean, we could just talk about that, though, Kramer, for a long time. But what I'm trying to learn from you this hour, Dr. Fauci, is how your experiences working on HIV AIDS later on informed how you handled, you know, the other transformative pandemic, epidemic that the world experienced with COVID. Because in hearing Kramer's passion there...