 yeah and there's sort of a gray area here as you said in this case uh norfolk southern we were talking before about bnsf those are two of the big freight railroads the freight railroads own the tracks but they're supposed to give amtrak preference when it needs to get through the allegation here amtrak has been making for many years now the fed's joining it saying that they don't do that freight railroads say that they're doing their best to move commerce around the country