 you know, 20 years or so, and how many people aren't caught. And because Indigenous women can often be in vulnerable positions, like being a street sex worker, their targets were serial killers much of the time. So I needed that to be part of the landscape of the novel, because it's part of the landscape of all of our lives, and especially, I think, in prairie cities. But I did not want to glorify, as Catherine said, these men at all.