 So he kind of told Stacey, like, look, you either step aside or I'm going to stop funding this thing. And so Stacey, you know, that's not really a, as a founder of a company you spent all these years on, if you have that choice, you're probably going to just step aside. And that didn't mean he was going to be out of his company. It meant that he just wouldn't be at the helm. But that move set this chain reaction that ended up with,