 And I haven't been to Europe. And I don't understand the point that you're making. Early on, Harris often seemed stilted and uncomfortable in the limelight. She was the first woman in the job with a mom from India and a dad from Jamaica. And her supporters point out there's not a lot of examples of women like her in leadership positions. There's never been a black woman, for example, as governor. There was a magnifying glass on her from the moment she joined the ticket.