 Now, you're doing the collegiate rock and roll and blues scene. Graduation time comes. What happens to the band scene? Well, that was a major thing. Well, you know, you can't hang around in that safe college atmosphere anymore. You're out on the street. So I was out on the street, and I had my master's degree in hand, and I took a job teaching it at Wisconsin Oshkosh. You know, I had an academic career. Meanwhile, Bill Kirchhen, the lead guitar player in the First Commander Cody band, had gone out to San Francisco, and he was a motorcycle delivery guy out there playing...