 hallucinatory phenomena because there's no brain there, you know. So just realize that the mind is separate from the brain and that's why we have this phenomenon. And so the goal is how does the mind produce these visions, you can want to think about it, these experiences, right, these feelings, a lot of them having intense emotional emotions like love, you know, unconditional love and stuff like that. How can they have those experiences when there's no brain, right?