 he took over a company that was started by two Black founders. I felt that there was a slight possibility that this person, Mitch, who I had never met, might think if he's being interviewed by a Black man, that Black man might have an angle and that Black man might want to corner him into saying something that makes him appear racist or appear biased or culturally insensitive. That's not based on fact. That's not based upon me knowing him or anything like that. That's just a hunch that I had.