 started practicing drums at the house on pots and pans at my house. My mother had 12 kids. She couldn't afford to buy me no drums, so I had to play on pots and pans and learn how to play drums. She needed those pots and pans for 12 kids. Good Lord. Yeah. Did she mind that you played on the pots and pans? Oh, yeah. Well, you know, I always was a good kid. There was no bad kids. So, you know, I always respect my parents, and I always respected people in my neighborhood. So I never was a bad kid, so...