 My sense of how people, you know, in Western societies had thought about animals would have been kind of this very straightforward trajectory. We're sort of starting out with we thought they were unintelligent. And then over time, and especially in the last few decades, came to realize that, no, in fact, they are quite intelligent. But the history is actually really a lot messier than that. And, you know, you can look at the last 2000 years or so.