 If your listeners haven't heard of him, you know, he's someone who's more conservative but has been open-minded, pals around with a lot of more lefty folks out in San Francisco, at Silicon Valley. He's a tech entrepreneur, and he's got this all-in podcast that's very popular because he hosted a fundraiser for Donald Trump a few weeks back, and all kinds of lefty-leaning tech people said, you know, I listened to the media and thought this guy was a racist, but now I realize he's not, A. And, B.,