 She had some success, and she was kind of working him, working him, working him over a long period of time this spring into the summer. And really, though, she told me what happened was that Trump was having this kind of off-the-cuff, serendipitous conversation with somebody who made this just kind of random, out-of-left-field remark about why he enjoyed voting by mail and why he thought it was a good idea. And Trump said...