 I have never seen in any of them a more apathetic president than Joe Biden. It might have something to do with his mental decline, but he simply does not care. So he'll sit there and tell Lester Holt, oh, I don't engage in that kind of rhetoric, when it's just a lie. But it's a provable lie. Now, Holt doesn't follow up, okay? And in a number of things, Holt asks the right questions.