 Now, the other thing that struck me at that time was there wasn't just one journey into hate. I imagined that there would be a kind of single through line that would kind of explain what takes someone down that path. There were very different journeys. There were people who had PhDs that had ended up in hate groups. There were people who had been homeless who ended up in hate groups. So very, very different experiences. But if I had to distill it down to one common thread...