 Kamala Harris, the vice president, I'm going to call her vice president now because I keep calling her. She is like, in my view, an undervalued talent. She's a very fierce communicator. She's very strong, especially on one of the core issues that made the election maybe won or lost some, which is abortion rights. You know, and this is why I think what she did, I did a couple of interviews after the debate. People were, I was sitting on the set with a bunch of other MSNBC anchors and we were like,