 That's Todd Zwilek, also with us, Stephen Mazie, Supreme Court Correspondent for The Economist, and Mary McCord, Executive Director of Georgetown University's Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection. Thanks to you all. Today's producer was Michael Folero. This program comes to you from WAMU, part of American University in Washington, distributed by NPR. I'm Jen White. Thanks for listening. We'll talk again tomorrow. This is 1A.