 Joining us now to talk through all of this is NPR congressional reporter Barbara Sprunt. Hi, Barbara. Hey. So tell us more about this meeting. What do we know about it? Well, it was a private call with top House Democrats. And according to several sources familiar with the call, four lawmakers who are ranking members on committees spoke up and said they want to see a change at the top of the ticket. They are Jerry Nadler of New York, Adam Smith of Washington, Mark Takano of California, and Joe Morrell of New York.