 It's true. It's an interesting part of the story is that there are a bunch of people who are marginalized for a wide variety of reasons who found themselves flocking to this because jobs were available. But there's a certain personality type that was also drawn to it. And that was people I wouldn't say, for instance, that Alan Funt didn't fit in. I mean, he'd been making radio stuff. He was making what was called audience participation radio at the time, which is the precursor to reality television.