 So how do you explain that? You have to have an informational model that has structure to it so that you can have like an internet packet of the mind, right? And it's not electromagnetic. So that gives you a brush of sort of how I'm approaching this, George. If the mind is not part of the brain, Doug, where is it? That's a good question. And when is it too? So if the mind, I mean, we know this from quantum physics, okay? Quantum physics says, look, in order to have quantum computing work,