 People either like him a lot or hate him a lot. And there's very few people that are persuadable. And so what I don't know is like he definitely had a moment. He understands like Reagan did, like Reagan understood that he was at the center of a stage. Like Reagan was an actor, 50 movies or so. And his two best scenes in his two best movies were hospital like deathbed scenes. Right. So Reagan understood intuitively that key moment in that operating room, what he had to say.