 Black Lives Matter, post-George Floyd, there was overlap here, but you could call it more woke, you could call it more built around identity and ethnicity. You had the moderates, which Joe Biden was a part of, and I think were seen as maybe still an important force, but a thing that was draining of its power. Obama was held in a little less esteem at that moment, I think, inside at least the commentariat than he is right now. So it's a question of to what extent