 was asked, Governor, you pay 14% on $20 million. Someone making $50,000 paid more than that. Do you think that's fair? He said, oh, yes, that's fair. That's fair. And they're going to talk about, you think these guys are going to go out there and cut those loopholes? The loophole, the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carried interest loophole. I won't play the whole thing, but he sounds like a different guy. Sounds like a different person. And he was about 70 years old there. I think he was about 69. He was 69, technically.