 But it really shocked people. And it was one of the reasons that critics of Survivor saw the show as so brutal and disgusting, which I think a lot of people don't remember because it's such an established show at this point. It has a huge fanhood. People watch it with their kids. It's like a nostalgic old favorite. But at the time, it was a very shocking thing. And, you know, for the book, I interviewed more than 300 people. And there were some shows where I had a kind of Pokemon-like collect-em-all feeling. And one of them was Survivor where I talked to