 Oh, that's interesting. So it's actually improving that for you. Well, thank you very much. So it does seem as though salt is quite popular. Pen, let me start with you. Why do we eat salt? Do we need to eat it or do we just eat it because it does taste good? It tastes good. We do need to have salt, but do we need to eat it? That's a really interesting question. And history suggests that...