 So these were the charges against Donald Trump. As this case started to progress in Judge Chutkin's court, Donald Trump sued on these immunity grounds. And that's what's called an interlocutory appeal. Mary knows far more about that than I, but she's busy reading the opinion. We'll get back to her in just a moment. But what that meant was that the case had to stop. If the defendant, in this case, the president, is immune from prosecution, he shouldn't