 and she got a little bit of a training session and the second one she just became a different person in fighting off while shooting her attacker that's our first person defender series where we take regular people and drop them into self-defense situations and we just see how they do it is eye-opening and instructive and i think it will get you thinking a bunch all right 866 talk gun gets you in right now you can join us live or you could be a part of the after show if you want to