 even with some pretty awesome technology like cell phones. There's a lot of people who are like, this is causing a lot of harm. Although it is hard to find any ad these days that's not optimized for your phone. I'm Matt Levin for Marketplace. Speaking of your phone, you can take us with you, you know, in your pocket. We've got a podcast, too, should you miss something on the air. Get it at marketplace.org or on the platform of your choice. Just follow us there.