 Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. And thank you for watching the show. We really do appreciate it. And that's The Business. Robin Estrin produced and edited today's program with help this week from Mario Saavedra, who mixed the show. You can stream The Business as well as other great KCRW shows on kcrw.com or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kim Masters. We'll see you next week on The Business.