 We didn't mean to do this, but I think we embarrassed them as far as having a program in place that worked in certain ways before they did. But I think we've really tried to do the work and built a lot of relationships with people at utilities so that they know we're not there to antagonize them in certain ways. We're just there to help people. And once they see that you sort of have the same imperative they do, they want to serve the public and things like that, it's easier to work with people.