 handle that um and i and as i was sort of wrestling with this i i thought i think i'll ask david graham um and i called him up you know it was a little bit i was joking you know it's like i happen to have marshall mcclellan right here um and uh and similarly my book about the sacklers the one of my touchstones going into that was jane's work on the cokes right was how do you look at a systemic problem