 guy. Yes. I didn't know if maybe you invented this person and then I googled it and I was like, this is a real thing that happened. Can you talk about what this guy Lonnie Carmen did? Oh, Luke, thank you for bringing up Lonnie Carmen. No, seriously, I haven't gotten to talk about this at all and that means a lot. So Lonnie Carmen is from the east side of Columbus where I'm from and Lonnie Carmen is a guy who was nicknamed the junk man because he would take people in East Columbus would just drop their stuff off at his house. I mean, milk cartons and