 And was this in his early years or his later years? This is his later years. You know, it just occurred to me, today we've got a big discussion about Biden and his age, you know. What parallels can we draw from that? It's a really good question. I've been thinking a lot about this. So Franklin, it turns out, was the exact age, almost to the month, 81, when he attended the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 2008.