 At that time, they thought this is the best thing, just don't allow fire and everything will look pretty and nice forever. Back then, they didn't understand that so much of our forests need fire. They need to have these seasonal fires in order for the health of these forests and these rangelands and habitats to maintain the health that they're supposed to. It all just led to overstocking of the forests and the rangelands, and so now when fires do happen...