 I feel like the darker part of that is that, you know, if you take a mediocre product and you make it look a little better, that's impressive. But if you take a really toxic, terrible one and you elect it president, that's its own kind of accomplishment. My guest, Emily Nussbaum, is staff writer at The New Yorker and author of Cue the Sun, the invention of reality TV. You're listening to Think. I'm Chris Boyd.