 the art aspect of it. You know, I had been going to church with my grandmother and my mother, and they had us kneeling on the kneelers, and I would see all these images, but didn't know anything about them. So little by little, it was a lot of research work to get involved with that sort of imagery. And eventually, I got involved with what's called the Spanish Market in Santa Fe, which is a market devoted to the historic preservation of the New Mexico arts.