 But they see people who are already in the country illegally that have been here without authorization for years differently. Why? Because these are their cousins, their neighbors, their colleagues. So for them, they are the exception. They're not the people who are crossing now illegally. So for them, this is a little bit more complicated. And the idea of mass deportation is uncomfortable. Sergio, thanks for your insights. You're welcome. That's Sergio Martinez Beltran, NPR's immigration reporter based in Austin.