 Because it was jazz first, it was bebop, it was horns, it was Coltrane, it was Miles, it was all that stuff. And then everything else was layered on top of it. That's the music he did in his later career. That's the music that the Fort Apache did. And that's what Papa Vasquez does, jazz Latin. Every single one of his records is full of this kind of exploration, this kind of genre busting, this kind of vision that he has.