 No, I know. So I'm going to play that. Not pandering at all to the black members of a black church in the black inner city in Philadelphia. But he says that he originally got into politics. He got into politics because he was he was a civil rights activist in Delaware. And then, oddly enough, I asked him audio from 1987 where he says the opposite. I got my start in public life, never intended to run for office as a public defender.