 you know built up a little bit by biden world and biden world is really now just hunter jill and joe i mean there's really no biden world the entire media has turned on him and uh and and and a lot of democrats and the ones that haven't turned on him are just keeping their mouths shut it's not like they're really coming to his defense outside of a handful but one of the main points david axelrod made about the uh stefanopoulos interview is how he kept talking about