 your relationship to yourself, but also to that place, at least for me, does change quite often. And the Indigenous writer, Lee Maracle, talked to me of stories being born in the eddy at the side of the river. And there was this idea that I think, Catherine, you were speaking to, that in a sense, the writer is a kind of a, without being pretentious on your behalf, a kind of a medium through which stories that are already out there are articulated.