 I found this new religion, which I wrote about in my PhD thesis called the Institute of Applied Metaphysics, which is a sort of theosophical movement that turned into a commune and an end-of-the-world kind of group run by an Ottawa housewife called Winifred Barton. And I mentioned it to him, and he said, oh, yes, I met her. We were on a radio show together. So it's very hard to find something he hasn't already found.