 trend now towards small regional potato chips, not just the big, huge companies. Well, in the middle of this American potato chip moment, we are in. Kathy Gunst, thank you so much for bringing all this in, tasting with us, joining with us. Kathy, thanks as always. Thank you, Scott. Here and Now is a production of NPR and WBUR. I'm Scott Tong in Washington, D.C. And I'm Lisa Mullins in Boston. Make mine Cape Cod dark russet. This is Here and Now.