 They were interested in the life after death, but then they said, oh, no, not the witchcraft. Oh, no. Oh, no. When you do educate yourself on things and you study things, it doesn't mean you condone it or you're doing it. But I know that is a stigma with people. But let me ask you, do you condone it? Do you do it? And what is the witchcraft? When I talk to people that are a part of it, they say, hey.