 But we managed to convince the judge overseeing Kat's case to give us a court order so we could interview her. We told him about our documentary. We said we wanted to hear Kat about her case, the allegations against her. And he thought that was fair and gave us this court order. My first impression of Kat was that she actually looked fragile. I was like, I can't believe this is the woman that people accuse of so many horrible things. A woman who was being...