 separately to a degree. It's really difficult to break down barriers and make changes because people are very much set in their ways and then they adopt how their families have always been and I think it's just going to carry on and carry on. I'm a great believer in when in Rome do as the Romans do and that's not happening here. They've come into this country and they're doing their own thing when a lot of it isn't correct, it's not right.