 Roll clip 19. She is like, in my view, an undervalued talent. She's a very fierce communicator. She's very strong, especially on one of the core issues that made the election maybe won or lost on, which is abortion rights. You know, this is why I think what she did after a couple of interviews after the debate, people were I was sitting on the set with a bunch of other MSNBC anchors and we were like.