 We just walked around the radio building here, press building here, I guess, because it's radio podcast. Like I said, here in Milwaukee, the pretty TV people are over in the main hall where the Milwaukee Bucks play. Although there are some really significant video podcast people here, Ben Shapiro and his ilk. True. But your NBC Evening News with Norah O'Donnell and all that sort of stuff is over in the main building where the convention is being held.