 media report or anything else. So I'm going to say anywhere from 3,000 to 6,000 horses are out there on just the Virginia range. Then you've already also got horses on tribal lands and in other areas like Fish and Wildlife Service. Up in the Sheldon, there's horses up there. So, you know, I've heard a lot of conversations and we probably estimate in Nevada there's probably at least 100,000 horses when you combine everything.