 And then there was a question about immigration. That's another vulnerability for Joe Biden. He didn't really do very well on the question of abortion, which should have been his sort of Trump card, really. And it wasn't until I think about 35, 40 minutes that we even got to January the 6th and got to the fact that Donald Trump is a convicted felon. These issues that go right to the heart of his character, this issue that go to the heart of his trashing of democracy, which Joe Biden obviously wants to put on the ballot.