 any great artist is also concerned with very ordinary everyday matters and probably doesn't want to be cornered by me at a dinner party saying, well, that extraordinary piece you made in 1973. Tell me about your thinking around that, please. You speak, I'll just listen. It's an honour. And I also think that we all act a bit strange around very famous people whom we admire. I think that with any artist, I just go up to them and say, like...