 Thank you very much, Yasmin. And I want to say that that is a wrap on this debate. And I want to thank both of our debaters, Caitlin Bailey and Yasmin Vafa, for engaging with one another. That's what we try to encourage is for people who disagree to at least meet across a table and have it out, talk it out and hear each other out. And you both did that with intellect and power and insight that was beneficial for all of us to hear. So thank you very, very much for taking part in this open to debate episode.