 I think what was also interesting is I was even texting with current and former members of Congress in both parties while the debate was playing out. And there was really concern, echoing what Ron and Wendy were outlining from Democrats about Joe Biden's performance. But there were also some members who highlighted what that listener just said, saying, but are we listening to what Donald Trump is saying? And that deserves some scrutiny as well. I think what stood out most to me about this debate, besides Joe Biden's performance, was that Trump didn't necessarily make any news.