 68 years old or whatever and they don't move as good as they they used to so it's tough to kind of judge try not to be too uh rude and ask wait or anything like that we just just kind of go with what kind of expectations they're after and you know what kind of quality of animal they're looking for and how well they think they can move around and then we sometimes we're surprised when they show up sometimes it's a good surprise and sometimes it's