 you don't have to do science for a living or go through the whole deal to, to access a lot of that. And in my view, um, you know, I talked earlier, a lot of us just, we get that as kids, right? We feel that as kids and we lose it a bit. Um, but I didn't for a long time. I mean, I might've thought I did a little bit, but I was just pretty focused more on the answers and the rest. And I loved finding those answers and I loved chasing them, but, but I didn't find that kind of, uh,