 I'd have to look into both of them, Marie. I'm sorry I don't have a better and a more informed answer on that. I always feel guilty when that's the case. But I know nothing about either of them. I know I'm like the guy in line with Woody Allen talking about McLuhan in Annie Hall. I know nothing of their work and wouldn't be in a position to make a pick. All right. 646-7200-635. Ed is in Westchester. Hi, Ed.