 So he set out to create this device, this telephone to the dead. And he had this belief, he did believe that we could exist after life. He thought, this is a quote from him, he said, I believe that life like matter is indestructible. There's always been a certain amount of life in this world, and there always will be the same amount. You cannot create life, you cannot destroy life, you cannot multiply life. He thought we were composed of 100 trillion life units, is what he called them, like beyond microscopic, made up,