 So we have Lon He Chen, who's worked on presidential campaigns and been in debates and all that sort of stuff. We're going to talk to him in about 15 minutes about all this. But we've got a breaking Supreme Court news we should probably do when we come back, because we talk about this topic so much. The Supreme Court upheld an Oregon City's ban on sleeping outdoors. So what does that mean? Well, let's look into what they said, and we'll talk about it when we come back. And a lot more debate. Stay with us.