 something we see less and less, which is they're taking time to think their own thoughts, not thoughts that will accommodate the other person or people at large or the culture at large. So, for example, Philip Roth wrote The Human Stain. And here's a character who appears to be a white man and has had an academic career as a white man who is one of these very rare genetic, it's an aspect of his birth that he appears white, but both parents are black Americans.