 And he's saying that he was struggling to get people to come to his event, that the concert and the festival industry are kind of going through it this year in ways that they haven't, especially coming out of COVID, where everyone was excited to go do these events. Given the climate at the moment, if a smaller festival just sort of fit in with maybe the intuition to kind of be careful in case Life is Beautiful got hit by some of the realities that some of these other festivals got hit with.