 except perhaps the sound here and there a little bit. But you didn't really ever see much of anything, anybody else, all day long in that studio. And so that was my whole visual world, was the streets on the screens and Christy and Dakota. It's the dream. We're talking about isolation with my guest, Sean Penn. His new film as actor is Daddy-O. He's talking about the director and writer, Christy Hall, and his co-star and producer, Dakota Johnson. It's a treatment. There's more to come. Stay with us.