 He's kind of the most high profile person involved in the scam to be arrested. He got 20 years in jail in the US for his role in the fraud. And he's been ordered to repay $300 million. So that's the sort of co-CEO, I suppose we might think of him as the second in command maybe in the scam. So that gives you an idea that, you know, if he's being asked to repay $300 million in