 I'm struck by how young you both were at the time. You were, what, 19 years old. You are forced out of the military. What do you say to family? I notice you both chuckle at that, but I don't suppose it was funny at the time. No. Oh, no. So for me, I had one family member that I was talking to by phone, a trusted aunt, and she knew the truth of what was happening, but I wasn't gay when I went in. I left a boyfriend behind. I didn't know I was gay.