 And that was Republican pollster John McHenry speaking to us earlier. And let me draw your attention to the BBC Live page on this story up on our news website where you can follow all the developments of that debate. It's up and running already. You can also watch the debate there. And I noticed that a coin flip decided Mr Trump will have the last statement of the 90-minute debate and Mr Biden will stand on the right. All these details, very important.