 it was kind of shocking to say, you know, and again, as this is someone like I, I employ screens in my daily family life, you know, but I do think that the difference you're talking about, it does matter enormously, right? Like I, I sort of, I almost thought going into this piece that, you know, the, the more counterintuitive thing we, we always, parents, I think are quite afraid of screen time. We understand that we have, we ourselves as adults have, um,