 and i've not heard anybody say this directly that something like this could be in the works but if it were to come to that you would have this council of democratic elders who might have to go to the president we've seen this in politics before maybe former house speaker nancy pelosi maybe chuck schumer of the democratic leader in the senate uh... certainly maybe president obama president clinton and say joe it's time to go but again nobody is getting there yet but they're just the fact that there's talk in speculation about who that council of elders might be that tells me a lot yeah