 I gave her the middle name Hajin because of the pilgrimage. And she loves to tell her siblings that she's the only one who made Hajj in mommy's belly. Let's bring in our third guest, who's also called Ahmed. This Ahmed is based in Kenya. You're a consultant pathologist in Nairobi, and you've performed the Hajj several times and the Umrah as well to Mecca. You did so once at a time of COVID. What was that like?