 And a note that you will hear that debate complete and live tonight, beginning at 6 on KNPR and KNPR.org. It's the first of two scheduled debates between President Biden and former President Trump, and it's going to take place in Atlanta tonight. CNN's hosting it. That'll be followed at 8 o'clock, by the way, by a special live edition of The Middle. We hope you will join us this evening, beginning at 6 on KNPR and KNPR.org.