 yanked all over the place. So I think her reservation to get on board was, oh, this is my next thing. And pretty much we really followed the thing where we sat down and we had a dream meeting and we talked about what could be and we tried to dream in Technicolor. And once we did that, instead of what we can't do and the fact that now we're going to be budget people, like this is our compelling reasons why. And once we did that, then it started to...