 Before VCR, we had Black Sabbath off of the Live at Last album, Snowblind, which also was a little tough sounding, but I like that Black Sabbath album because if you're not sure of the history of it, the Live at Last, they had no idea that that album was even coming out, and their manager, Patrick Meehan, who they had fired, had the rights to the album, so he ended up putting out the live performances.