 Yeah, well, we see these rising college prices, tuition, room, board, all that stuff going up. And you've seen the lists of comparing that and the debt you walk away from college with to the 18 month apprenticeship done deal. And then you come out, if you're lucky making 60 grand to start in it as a plumber or an electrician or what have you. So you can certainly see where the math adds up on that side of things sometimes.