 generally doesn't go well it does not go well it's just like i mean i'm you know and even though you know it sometimes if they do it three or four times i'll hear it but the first time even and i'm in a room where i'm asking for this but now it's you know especially when you get on a personal level and that that's in a business situation so here's where um marie here's where you can elevate the whole the maturity of the whole interaction