 And part of what happens in the lobby is usually 50 to a couple hundred people sitting around. And part of what happens in the lobby is also we have this little thing called the debt-free stage. And standing on it are Ivy and John. Hey, guys, how are you? Good. Love having you guys here. Where do you live? Appleton, Wisconsin. Appleton, Wisconsin. Awesomeness. And how much debt have you guys paid off?