 It's a process that I was always involved in, Rick. How many people did you talk to before you decided upon Dan White? Probably close to a dozen. What was it about Dan White himself? Wanted to know what my needs were, wanted to know what I was looking for, what I was looking to do. Dan does a lot of stuff for his customers, and a lot of events and that kind of stuff, and it's a lot of fun. So if someone at IBM where you worked in the past came to you and said, Frank, why did you choose Dan White? What would you say to them? I really like working with someone I trust, someone that's straightforward.