 it seemed that he was blaming big tobacco for almost everything that went on and saying that you know if if we don't have a thing people aren't able to stop smoking cigarettes again i wasn't mister looking to argue with the guy cuz i just want to hear what he had to say about it uh... but i could see how one can argue that for sure to to make the case that you know if if we had one less way of getting people nicotine then that's one less way for people to be addicted to nicotine