 They use the scalpel, doing as little damage as possible, inflicting some pain to remove a greater pain. Right? And that's exactly what you've got to do, Allison. God, this is aggravating. You're right. Indigestion, among other results. There we go. Steve's in Salt Lake City. Steve, what's up in your world? Hi, Dave. Hi, John. It's a great pleasure to speak with you. You too, sir. How can we help? Well, so...