 with this strategy of bringing in Abby Lowell, a hard, we'll just call him a hard-charging guy. I have a lot of words for Abby Lowell. But this article on May 5th, 2023 in Axios, which I urge everybody to go look at, it goes through how they had this meeting in the White House to discuss Hunter's legal strategies. And because, let's put it this way, because there's no guest log