 And this could be somebody without the horrific policy record and the performance record and the polling of Joe Biden. Say, for example, again, Wes Moore. And so Nikki Haley talked a little bit about that over the weekend. And Margaret Brennan actually interviewed Wes Moore over the weekend. I've got some fantastic audio straight ahead. Dan Mandis here, 866-90-RED-EYE. In for Gary and Eric, this is Red Eye Radio.