 Kamala Harris, the vice president, I'm going to call her vice president now because I keep calling her. She is like, in my view, an undervalued talent. She's a very fierce communicator. She's very strong, especially on one of the core issues that made the election maybe won or lost some, which is abortion rights. This is why I think when she did a couple of interviews after the debate, I was sitting on the set with a bunch of other NBC anchors and we were like,