 that I think I've ever had on the program, certainly in the last several years. Together. Together. Dynamic duo. This is a two-on-one this evening. They just did a high-five with each other. But we also have Charles Lipson. We have two professors with us from the University of Chicago. That's Charles Lipson from Western Washington University. That's Mike Miller. My question to you is, Charles, you have heard the tone and the level