 As the undersecretary, I would get phone calls all the time at midnight or 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. In fact, my family used to gripe about it because where I am at the undisclosed location right now, we had a secure phone located where I could have a secure conversation with the White House Situation Room. And it wouldn't work, of course, unless I put my special card in it. But the kids like to pick it up and pretend like, oh, I'm having a conversation with the president.