 and he's a journalist as well, an investigative reporter. He's been twice nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for investigating reporting, and he's been following this case very, very closely. We'll talk to him about this, and we'll talk about the profile, if this particular guy that we've heard about, Brian Christopher Kohlberger, fits the demographics of kind of a killer. Unbelievable. And were those college students kind of in the wrong place at the wrong time?