 Whether or not he listens is a whole different story. This is a stubborn dude. And I think the Jill factor, and this is where I'm throwing this out to the audience, because a lot of people say it's Joe's ego. He's wanted this his whole life. He's always wanted to be president. I don't think he's in that state of mind anymore. I think this is a Jill operation or a Hunter operation. What do you think? We'll take your calls when we come back. How's an old guy do that?