 Not live, of course, because they don't want to risk that. The White House doesn't want to risk it. NBC doesn't want to risk it. So they're going to pre-tape it, then they're going to edit the interview and presumably clean it up in the Soviet fashion for the Democrats and for Joe Biden and his White House. But Lester Holt, who is probably the least bad, I think, of the network news anchors, I'll take him over, just about any of them. But Lester Holt is going to interview Joe Biden on Monday.