 commonwealth's witnesses or the commonwealth's people that they brought up were a lot worse than these reconstruction experts and and i don't i don't really have a reason to trust a lot of the information that they gave us to begin with because not only were they collecting it in red solo cups but they were caught lying multiple times throughout the case i i don't think they were caught lying multiple times but listen i know you're going to let me go here in a second i could talk about this all day but i would say this