 You know what's sad? It's funny because this is stuff that I feel like is very traditional that this newer generation is struggling with. It's like the fact that it's a novel idea for people to get together and share ideas and be face-to-face. Yes, I see what you're saying. It's just like, wow, what a weird idea to be social. That's so impressive, yeah. So she created a business, if you will, or a model, a non-profit. Mm-hmm.