 And the phonies who back your group, your group is backed by big industry, by the corporate state, right? And they don't want experts telling them that their pollution is poisoning the world. All right, David, hang on. I've got to hit a break. But I'm going to see if we can hold our guest over for another couple of minutes so you guys can have this little shootout. Folks, don't go anywhere. We've got Joseph Vasquez, if he'll come back, and David from San Francisco, our favorite pseudo-conservative. I call him a lib. Don't go anywhere.