 No, it's not the norm, but also the pandemic is no longer here. It was absolutely not the norm during the pandemic. Yes, thank goodness. Thank God. Yes, thank you. During the pandemic, this was more normal. The pandemic is over. You should meet your potential employer, and they should want to meet you. That isn't always 1,000% the case. Every situation is different, but generally shake their hand, and also bear in mind that