 was there in Normandy and had shared, not all of it, because most of those guys that served didn't like to talk about their service, but shared a lot with his children. And his son, who was, again, a colleague of mine, shared a lot of it with me. It was so eye-opening. It was so enriching, honestly, for me to hear the account from somebody who got it firsthand, or at least from his own dad.