 Those Socratic dialogues. You know I love that. And then he carries around thick leather-bound books that he likes to read. Remember when Jill was being interviewed, Howie, way back when. I think it was by Drew Barrymore. And she said, what's one of your pet peeves about Joe Biden? Like, what's one of your pet peeves? And Jill said, he keeps the reading lamp on too late at night. He falls asleep with his reading lamp on.