 And like he sent my mother and me, my family condolences when my mother died. He sent us personal condolences. And then I got invited to Mar-a-Lago, and I got to meet him and hang out with him. And I've got to tell you, it really changed me, not only as the man as a president, but also as a human being. Did you discover that as you were there and you got to kind of see him? I don't know how much time you had with him. But did that change your mind kind of about who he is as a human? No.