 Too small. I don't mean physically. I'm not disparaging the guy. But he didn't look like he was big enough of a person for the job. Being president's a big job. This guy was a governor of a very liberal state. How much did he know about America as a whole? And Lee Atwater did a brilliant job of crafting a campaign that highlighted that gap. And so when you saw him in that tank and he looked so little, head, big head, you just went, this guy's just not the right guy. And Joe Biden, and this is why Nancy Pelosi gave the answer she did.