 And I used the analogy in the video. If you're starting in Seattle and both people agree to go to L.A., one might want to go on I-5 and the other might want to go on the 101 or Highway 1, whatever they call it, the coastal one. You're both going to go to L.A., but you're arguing about how to get there. But if one wants to go to L.A. from Seattle and the other wants to go to Chicago and Seattle...