 For four years, being told what a great job he's doing, and they've been able to hide him. Their only issue is they can no longer hide him. So every time when you talk about, when everybody talks about what the different options is, oh, they couldn't not put Carmela in there, they can do anything they want. Think of all the things you said that they could, oh, they could never do that. They could never do that. They certainly can do it, and the strategy's already in place.