 It was bland. It wasn't as bad as the debate, but I don't think he gained ground, but I think it was necessary for him to come forth so the American public could see and touch and feel and see where are you and what do you look like and what are you doing. But I don't think we have made, this media has made age an issue. Truth be told, Trump and Biden are only three years apart. Well, that's a long time.