 So one day, Kerry is making his, like, he must have been up for re-election, so he's making his, like, once every six-year trip to the Statehouse, and he's pretending to know all these guys. And so Billy Reinstein goes up to a couple of reps. He's out on Beacon Street on the steps, you know, having a press conference. Reinstein says, watch this, guys. And he goes, Senator Kerry, Butchie Cataldo.