 even more progressive than joe biden and she's even more willing to just do what she's told and to you know take the marching orders and roll with it so i i don't think if they are able to get her in that's all they care about it's really the president when it comes to democrats and their leaders it's really a figurehead position it's all the people behind the scenes the ron claines the ben rhodes is it's all the people who have you know