 A lot of conservatives are speculating that those people might not want to get involved in this now because it's become such a bleep and maybe their chances of 2028. But I just don't tend to think that's how people... Let's say you're Gavin Newsom. You have to be looking at two options. One is that you get in and yes, it's a disaster and yes, it sellies up your reputation. But the other option is you get to 2028 and you're old news and nobody even cares about you anymore. This could be your one chance. No way.