 She said, I don't think I would have ever had the confidence to do this, make this jump and do this for myself and my family if it had not been for our leadership development. And for me, that's a success. You know, did we lose a great team member? We did. However, it's not like she's gone too far. We keep in close touch with her. She has wonderful students she sends to us as apprentices. And she was just in last week.