 When we look at what's been happening the last four years, for example, with grocery prices up 25 percent, gasoline prices up, those are things that mean a lot to people on everyday issues. Who cares? I don't care who's president. They may say, I do care that I cannot afford this anymore. So there's policies there. What happens in campaigns, what also gets mixed up is personality. I like the guy. I don't like the guy. I'm frightened of this or he's going to bring down democracy, whatever those things are.