 that this was a one-on-one meeting, just the Senate leader and the president, and that Chuck Schumer forcefully made the case that it would be better for Biden, better for the Democratic Party, and better for the country if he were to bow out of the race. And David, when I went to Schumer's office to ask them about, to tell them I was going to report this and tell you this tonight, absolutely no denial from Senator Schumer's office. They only said this, Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus.