 Either way. Well, they claimed that they, you know, every morning she would ask them the first thing, have you read anything? And, you know, I never believed that. I used to deal with Robert Popio. He's dead now. But, you know, he would send his guy out at a big trial I covered in the 1980s. We'd do live shots every night. And I'd say, but, Bob, the jurors say they don't see that. And he would laugh. And he would say, yeah, right. Right.