 um you know coming out out of the gates are the ones that help push biden out so they don't want to look too heavy-handed they want the appearance of a process here um but i think she has to name her running mate sometime soon my take is mark kelly um gabby gifford's husband he's a senator an astronaut where's he out of arizona arizona again a swing state but she's a great guy but you know yankin in kentucky and i'm not sure how many people um you know it's going to be a challenge to to get to know the vice president much less the vice president's vice president