 Well, she really, I mean, she's a true believer. There's a certain class of these Democrats. You could call them dead-enders, but I really think they're just true believers. They worship at the altar of Joe Biden. And I think that this is, it's easier to be one of those people, Howie, than to be someone who's faking it. Like, Mika Brzezinski is truly in awe of Joe Biden. Joy Behar is turned on by Joe Biden. These people think he is all that and a bag of potato chips.