 I mean, I never liked going up a ladder. One summer I was a house painter, and I said, you know, I'll do the sloppy work, you know, just putting the, I forget what you call it, the, I can't even remember. I said, just don't send me up the roof. I didn't like, I didn't go at all, especially with a bucket of paint. But that's just me, you know. Secret Service didn't look like it was a problem, shouldn't be a problem. I'm Howie Carr.