 how do i say it's like brand universities do you know what i mean yeah i just feel it's you're getting you're not getting the bang for your buck like you would get in a community college that's just the way i see it it's just i see these universities that say the big ones i'm talking the non-community college or junior colleges and they just feel like brands you're paying for the name more than you're paying for what you're getting as the education and to your point jay dog