 after milwaukee it really felt like it was impossible for joe biden and inject any energy any unity any motivation and it's just amazing how this thing changed and you know john in hindsight i don't pretend to you know you don't know unless you're in that room with any of these people but um and a lot of it's not a perfect science i think you'd agree with that but the jd vance choice was what people the the las vegas odd bettors were saying it would be vance he was the leading the choice so it's not a big surprise