 To live on your own. $20 an hour used to be kind of a big deal. You made $20 an hour, you're doing pretty well. You're doing pretty well. If you're making $30 an hour, that's what, about 12 times 4,800, 55-ish maybe. Honestly, if you're on your own making $60,000, you're going to be able to pay your bills, depending on where you are. You can't live in New York City. If you as a family make $100,000, you're not going to be able to afford a house.