 but uh... more importantly uh... it's just that uh... it violated the rules it really did and it's pretty obvious to a lot of people but i haven't heard any anyone mention it and i think it's worth looking into so i've seen biden during a lot of debates and uh... during a lot of his speeches or town halls that he does that he used to do i should say because he doesn't do those anymore uh... he's got a you know he's done these all his life uh...