 South Carolina back in the forties and fifties and sixties, et cetera. So that was poured into me as a younger person. I made a decision early in my youth that I wanted to pursue a career in insurance. I know that's not the norm, but I am one of those folks who decided that the industry was an area that I wanted to pursue. And that was really driven by some family influence. I had an aunt who went on to become an executive at AIG.