 And we kind of hit it off. Charlie and I, we go back ways that we've been friends. We've been coached together. And so we hit it off during the interviews, and the producer of the Wolfburg Community Television said, hey, are you guys interested in doing a sports show? I need some content. And so we went on the air, and we started doing this show, Mike and the Hoss. And then we were picked up by the local radio station here, WASR.