 He has no record if you look at him. He's been in 50 years and really nothing's produced. He has no choice but to debate. If he doesn't debate, oh, it's going to look awful. Think about it. The American people deserve to see both candidates. You think he's up against the wall in the swing states? You know, what you've heard about, you know, Chris Sinan who has said it in the past, not so much recently, Trump can win the primaries.