 J-Doc, you may be the only one to remember this, but actually you wouldn't because I was at a different network in the morning when I did my show before I saw the light and came to Vinny Media, but a different network that might have had the word heart in it. When I was interviewing Biden in 2019 before the 2020 election in New Hampshire for a 15, 18-minute one-on-one interview, I interviewed Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden. I asked him then.