 The meetings, I do doubt, I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be shocked. Nothing would shock me anymore. I don't think Joe Biden and his team are just going to relinquish the nomination coming up in August. He's already secured the delegates. How that would work, if you're not sure in the process and you just want to know, is the only way Joe Biden cannot accept the nomination at this point is if he gives up, releases, surrenders his delegates at the convention or going in. It could happen.