 Is it catcher's interference? What's going on? I think he fouled off his foot, to be honest with you, right from the beginning. Well, the umpires didn't signal that right away. Rafi sort of hesitated through the second. Right of his left toe. It's more amazing that John Lipka at second base actually called him out originally. I mean, it wasn't even close. He was safe. Jackson Merrill got down to second easily on this because the whole thing was sort of delayed. And I think that was the reaction from Devers, too, because he hit off of Kim's foot. It was a dead ball.