 that the president was going to hammer Donald Trump on because that's an issue they think they can win on. This is important to note. This debate was the Biden campaign's idea. This was their proposal. This was their framework. This was their rules. They wanted to do this early in the election cycle, earlier than we've ever seen a general election debate before the conventions, before they're even the nominees, because they wanted to shake up the race. They wanted people to start paying attention. They wanted to try and quiet