 When you see that sort of thing, now you see with Vigano who points out the truth of what a pseudopope he is, what a fake pretender he's a fraud of a Catholic. When you see him, and then when they say, well, here's what people don't know about this whole process in the Catholic Church, and now I'm kind of an expert because they've been after me for three years, is unlike when we have the sense of due process in the legal system,