 He's done a fine job in a year and a half as governor, but he's got flaws as well. But he's a very strong supporter of Israel, and that will divide the Democratic Party deeply. But they don't have a choice, do they, Martha? If it is Vice President Harris at the top of the ticket, she does not work in the Midwest. She is not from my land. She's from California, very much a West Coast leftist. And I just don't think that plays in America very well. What do you think?