 That's a great question. I mean, both shows, I have not tallied that number. Maybe I should, but you'd be surprised. Planning a smaller event like this still takes a lot of time. The team is amazing, for sure. We do have a lot of meetings. We did institute something, which maybe your listeners will like, a no-meeting Friday, so that you just have actually time to get stuff done, because we were having too many meetings. So I'd recommend anybody in business to have one day,