 And a perfect example of that is a fellow named Bob Wood Jr., who had found the Cy Walter website, I guess about four or five years ago, called me up out of the blue, lives on the West Coast, to tell me that his father, Bob Wood Sr., was a dear friend of my father's. They knew each other in Minneapolis. They grew up together. Bob Wood Sr. was perhaps six years older than Cy and had his own orchestra at the time. And at age 19 or so, he was an orchestra leader.