 Now, Senator, it's not really a fair match to send Yale law grad and Marine J.D. Vance up against the vice president. If that comes off, how are we going to handicap Senator Vance? Because it's really not fair for him to go into a debate with Vice President Harris. Do we like tape him? Well, Hugh, I got to work with and see Kamala Harris up close for four years in the U.S. Senate.