 But I think you can agree that when we were talking to the lady, it sounded like she had tried an awful lot of things. She was exasperated. And sometimes it's just, you know, I don't know what kind of trap she was using. There's also a little strangle trap that they use. But got our moles with just a regular cage trap. And we were getting them all the time. Craig, welcome. Hi, Gary. Another one, maybe less dramatic than shooting them. But...