 nearest and dearest family members who love him which if they really truly loved him they'd tell him to step aside and do himself a favor but they're in those meetings because they're afraid they're nervous for their dad they feel bad for she feels bad for her husband but at the same time she wants to be there to see if maybe she can absorb some of the information in the meeting so that when they go to bed tonight at his bedtime of the ripe old time of 8 p.m eastern