 Um, I used, um, uh, the little things you light and you put down the holes there. I used a hose off the muffler of the mower and put, you know, and man, that worked great. And sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. I mean, the only way to surefire way, um, in fact, we had in my son's house is we had to trap him. Um, and he lives near, uh, uh, woods and a river.