 So I'm wondering, the shooter, did he, I mean, how did he get up on the rope if there's no ladder or anything? Do you think he called, he waved over, hey, Joe Blow, come over and can I stand on your shoulder so I can get up on the strip and shoot Trump? Well, what I read, what I read was that he, there was a ladder out there. So I don't know if he had a ladder, if that's true, and he took that ladder and pulled it up once he got up on that rope. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if he went through all that and people saw that happening, I mean, for the...