 Bill D., playing back and forth with me. Well, you know, I mean, that's kind of the whole idea, and we kind of go back and forth. Some have a better gab of conversation from the standpoint of being able to just ad lib than others, and not all of them. I mean, they have good conversational skills. Don't get me wrong. That's not what I mean. But as you get to know somebody, and that's how you get to know people, is by talking with them.