 they're going to request them and the attorneys are going to do that work for you. And I think what you just described in terms of that kind of client, that kind of person is really going to be the driving force between what kind of divorce you're actually going to get. So if you don't have your arms around what the financial situation looks like, or don't have maybe the capacity today to do that, then you want to have an advocate that would be an attorney.