 Yes, and that brisket was amazing. His barbecue sauce was amazing. And then he took pieces of the brisket and put it in the beans. Yep. Unbelievable. Vern, he was a cook. Vernon was such a... I'm talking like he's dead. He's still around. I don't know if he's still around here, but Vern was a nice man. And it was funny because he could never say the word ribs. It was always whips. You got to come try my whips. And I think the problem with Vern...