 Loud and clear. I mean, you can see it on the Internet, which she said, all this for a damn flag. When they were doing a ceremony, she was a young Michelle where they had just won in 2009 at a ceremony. You know where the veterans fold up the flag? And she is telling her hubby, all this for a damn flag. That's our flag. That's her flag. Now, that tells you what she is. She wasn't that young of a woman. She was a grown woman at that time, and that's what she thought of.