 I'll throw out a number, I'll get it wrong, I'll get yelled at, and that's fine. Probably 15-ish minutes a night, 16 minutes a night, something like that. It wasn't something that read that he played about 20 minutes per game, like 19 and a half minutes per game. Yeah, probably around there. And if everything goes according to plan, I'd like to think that he'll play a little bit less than that for Minnesota. Because if he plays a little bit less than that, that means that we're not on the penalty kill all the time. Yeah, if he's on that fourth line, for those that don't know, fourth line is usually kind of that grinder, just kind of defensive, forward line.