 that at least has a base of support out there that Kamala Harris does not. I think it's incumbent upon Trump. You talk about what Trump does. I mean, I would talk more and more as this, if Biden is nominated, that he's not running against Biden. He's running against Kamala Harris because she's going to be the president if he wins. And so you have the dual things that it's very unusual for a vice president to matter and for vice presidents to,