 that I picked up from, I think actually from my grandfather. I got them from my dad, but I think he had them back in the day. And they're hanging in the shed. Don't use them too much anymore because, well, they're kind of rusted and a little difficult to use. I should take them someplace and get them cleaned up and used, as a matter of fact. Let's see. Regarding Cunningham's comment on dogs in bars and restaurants, it's if the proprietor wants people with dogs to come in and he has a designated area, there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion.