 Loud and clear. I mean, you can see it on the Internet, which she said all this for a damn flag when they were doing the ceremony. She was a young Michelle where they had just won in 19 in 2009 at a ceremony, you know, where the veterans hold up the flag. And she is telling her hubby all this for a damn flag. That's our flag. That's her flag. Now, that tells you what she is. She wasn't that young of a woman. She's a grown woman at that time. And that's what she thought of.