 Kids want to be listened to. At the end of the day and beginning of the day, kids want to be listened to. Adults want to be listened to. Everyone wants to be heard, but you have to sometimes understand, are you the listener or are you the talker? You can't be both. And you have to be in that space. And I'm right now 57, and I'm a realist. So in my mind, I say I got roughly 30 years left to live.