 is a zesty 75 years old and still very active and probably in better shape than me. At least he'd, he'd think so. Um, and I think that most of the characters are still out there, you know, Dan Sir, Larry Dahlberg, uh, Dave Sand, a lot of, a lot of guys that really, uh, made this happen. And we're going to, we already, we've already talked to them and we're going to tell the end fisherman story in a extensive series. So look forward to that 2025, but yeah, we're, we're happy to be a part of the podcast universe. Finally.