 and they're not in it to win it, and that's one of the reasons we see the stalemate. I'm talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. He's on the Armed Services Committee, a great friend of the program, and he will be watching, as I will, the news conference tonight at 5.30 p.m. The president's news conference will be carried on the Salem News Channel. I had Ambassador Oren on, former Israeli ambassador to the United States.