 And the Republicans said, no, you've been caught many times lying about these transcripts. So we need the tapes. We need to hear exactly how he sounded. And remember why they wanted it. Robert Herr said, yeah, these are crimes. I'm paraphrasing. But he said, yeah, these are crimes. But nobody would charge him. I'm not going to charge him because a jury wouldn't convict such a feeble old man.