 and you put it into the golden goose, a Roth. But unfortunately, Shane, your CPA is correct because there's what's called a pro rata rule on backdoor Roth conversions. Imagine you have the following, a traditional IRA with $10,000 in pre-tax contributions and earnings. So you just got a regular IRA out there. And then you make a non-deductible like this after-tax contribution that you intend to convert to a Roth using this backdoor strategy of $5,000.