 dusted off when people started realizing all the weird stuff that went down with that so they quit talking about it before people could ask questions but it's out there but i have a question for you as someone who is good with firearms probably knows more than me i'm just a casual gun guy who carries you're more into it than i am i suppose had he used a 270 or a 308 a larger caliber do you think he would have made the shot maybe maybe but to your point