 sounds that are referred into her ears so as i mentioned it can be something going on with the tmj my suspicion though is it's more muscular and it's the sound of that muscle that's kind of opening and closing or at least kind of manipulating that uh the mucosa of the uh of the eustachian tube there that would be my best guess now the next time you have a disagreement with peggy dr fire there are ways to solve that without um violence i just want to point out that