 I said, well, that's all the time we have, and I cut them off, and people were furious at me. Listeners were furious at me. How dare you treat an ex-president that way? And I had to tell them what happened. Here's what happened. They wouldn't do it, so they're not going on the air. I don't care who it is. But that's where it gets down to the talk show hosts. The name they believe is bigger than the actual content of the interview.