 And would you put something over that, like plastic or some type of other membrane? I don't think you'll need that. I mean, you can, but I don't think that's going to be necessary. That geocell, put a good thick coat on it. It's kind of like a rubberized membrane by itself. Okay, if that goes up into the area on the outside of the foundation that is painted, that particular product, can I paint over that product? You can.