 and maybe six or seven boards because I still see him as like that smaller athletic power forward as opposed to a true small forward because Josh's shot is not real consistent. He had that one really big game his rookie year at Summer League, and he hasn't really, to me, felt like he's followed it up. I mean, he can jump out of the gym and throw it down. He's great at dunking, but he needs to have like a discernible skill other than just having that high motor. You know what I mean?