 I mean, he went through all of these issues for 20, 25 minutes, and I thought, you know, this guy is serious. And, you know, he said, you know, I can talk to working people. They get me. He said, you know, people think I'm a big, you know, guy here in New York. He said, but I go to my construction sites, and I talk to the workers there, and they like me. I talk their language. I said, you know, and I said, well, you know, I thought, well, maybe he's going to do this. And then...