 Also, the judge can say that the creditors get 30 cents on the dollar and that's it. And the creditors suck it up. Now, obviously, you have to be very honest about this. It's all under the penalty of perjury and you have to cooperate. Well, here comes Rudy Giuliani, who has not cooperated from day one. He has obfuscated. This is the judge saying this, by the way, in his decision to say, no, no, no, I'm not going to let you go bankrupt.