 and they're not all all old and stodgy i mean we've got some you know newer things that have been put in there and so forth but those are kind of the personalities and so it's interesting we've had a market so far this year that seems to go back and forth we'll have you know we talk about those tech stocks and those tech stocks are running really really well and so we'll see the nasdaq be moving higher and the dow jones industrial average is just lagging it's just sitting there