 because they think they should go, and they figure they're going to take their generals the first two years, and then they're going to figure it out. That's a lot of money wasted. Anyway, we're going to go to break. When we come back, we're going to talk about post-secondary education versus heading to the trades. This is John Adams with Talk of the Town. If you want to call in, the phone number is 701-293-9000.