 uh yeah you sort of push each other's buttons when this comes up let me let me backtrack a second you said we've overcome a lot what does that mean uh so we've been sober clean and sober from drugs and alcohol for about six years good for you congratulations how long you've been married yeah i appreciate uh for the same amount of time they're about getting married a little bit before we got clean so wow and what do you do for a living