 They both came to the University of Michigan. They met actually on their very first day of freshman orientation. It was held in Waterman Gymnasium on the Michigan campus. And they met that first day and they had known of each other by reputation because they had read the newspaper clippings and knew how good the other guy was. So immediately they introduced themselves to each other and really became great friends from that very first day at the University of Michigan in the fall of 1931.