 They don't want to bring kids into this world, and they're capable of good people, a very good couple, married eight years now. But anyhow, it's just my take on it. But thanks, Mark. All right. No, appreciate the call. 775-5559. You're with Mark Ewins. Go ahead, please. So you're saying, Mark, the same people who have said for seven decades that the world is overpopulated have now flipped? Yes.