 And when you kind of look at both of those situations together, you can kind of see, well, OK, if we have 43, 42 percent of U.S. households as dual income, no kids, and we know that we have a population or we have a pending population problem in our country in that we don't have enough people to fill the jobs, that we don't have enough people to be able to sustain the economic growth and prosperity that we would like to see in our country. You can make an argument.