 Then the Twin Towers were hit, and I was asked to be the CENTCOM engineer for the Afghanistan-Iraq War. I went over as General Tommy Frank's engineer, and I did that for a year, and I did the reconstruction for a year, and then I came back and retired. And in my civilian career, I started doing consulting, but I was also picked up as the president of an aviation manufacturing company. Did that for about six years, South Carolina and here in Illinois.