 Those in the cemetery were suckers and losers. Remember that debunked hoax line? Yeah. He said he was with the president. He like heard it himself. My point is, every time he opens his mouth, whether it's... And the other thing about yesterday's interview, I listened to it again after the show yesterday. We played it. The whole time, he's on a speakerphone. You and I talked about this, Kevin. Here's what you hear.