 You will eventually become that way because you have no choice. And you would see it. We really saw it towards the end. Well, towards the end of my four years. I only did four years. But you would see it from the guys who just came in. And they were kids. They were puppies when they came in. 18, 19 years old. Maybe some of them a little soft. By the time they're done, you can see it on their face. It just...