 And so ABC TV, because we were part of ABC Disney at that point, ABC Radio, so we were part of Disney, so ABC TV and ABC Radio were together. And there were just some great lunchtime discussions, as I've talked about before. I mean, it was just, and it got to be brutal at points. I mean, it was just brutal. The conservative radio talk show host that worked for ABC Radio going after the liberal ABC TV anchors and stuff. I'll never forget, like, Sean Hannity was...