 selfless serving that comes into a job like that and i think you can take those skills and you can apply them and get paid much better you just have to be willing to do the work to climb that ladder and the fact that people are unwilling to and the fact to your point the fact that we tell people oh it's a living wage living wage implies that people should just be content and live there and expect somebody to come guarantee a higher wage and that's the wrong approach it's the complete wrong approach 775-5559 you're on knox good morning