 At 50 years old or 60, 40 years old, or thinking about it or even care about the conversation that we're having right now. So I think to paint him in one corner or the other, I think is really premature and doesn't hold a lot of water with me. 775-55-59. Caller, go ahead. You're on the air. Yeah, this shooter, a 20-year-old. I'm early 20s as well, a little older than this guy was.