 But at least he has a backbone. And you know where the man stands on something. Now, he's flip-flopped on a couple of things, granted. But at least he's got a backbone. When you've got Kamala Harris, I think it's challenging in that he... See, my phone's going off, Mary. See, now I'm distracted. All right, I'll have to call him back. Sorry, I'm not the only one. No, you're not the only one. But I think...