 In 1992, and for 10 years, I did the nightly news and public affairs programming on KCET with Pat Morrison, Kermit Maddox, and Ruben Martinez. We had the first pre-cable cable show. We were a talking head show, like sort of a McLaughlin group. But I was a conservative, and the others were liberal, and that was fine. I've never, ever been on a conservative show where there are more conservatives than there are liberals until I did the panel with Brett Baer in the last, I don't know, four years.