 next door neighbors they were like you they went through tons of them and we've had pretty good luck i think we've only in our new house that we've been in about 11 years or whatever i think uh we're still on the same dryer and we replaced the washer vice versa in our old house we only had you know we lived there for 20 25 years we only had to replace them each once i bought a washer and dryer when i was in