 to our David Muir back in 2021. He said, I'm a great respecter of fate. Fate has intervened in my life many, many times. I've covered Joe Biden when he was vice president, now covering him every day as president. He talks about his stubbornness. He talks about how he digs in on decisions and weighs things very carefully before coming to the final conclusion. But fate is something that he does believe in. And it's really interesting to see how