 And listening and or watching John McCain's voting record, I'll be honest with you, there wasn't a lot of conservative ideas that came out of John McCain. When Donald Trump ran in 2016, most people, to include myself, didn't take him seriously. But once he got elected, he turned out to be the most conservative president we've had since Reagan. Donald Trump has ushered in a new era of conservatism. It isn't just the conservatism of Reagan.