 but let's be a realistic, just like after world war two and everything else. Okay. We have to find a way to make opportunities for Russia and us. Russia is a natural ally in the big scheme of things. Sure. The people in China, but you have thugs and dictators and control. How do you help them feel or pain or feel the gain? Okay. To come along with where we need to go. Stop right there for a second, Ed. Stop right there for a second. Take Putin's position.