 Better part of, well, I'd say there were signs of this in 2020. Oh, absolutely. He didn't campaign, right? He was in his basement. He was never tested on the national stage. No. So, look, this is old news to you and I, but not to folks that watch MSNBC. But listen to some of the tone of this. First of all, the president is on a speakerphone. So this is an in-person interview. Why do you think he's on speakerphone, Kev?