 So but were you six or were you seven? I mean, that's really the question. How old were you when you started learning how to drive stick? I mean, right now the standard is six years old. That's really the standard. So I got to ask, how old were you when you started driving stick and working with your dad in the gravel business? You know, I mean, if you were any older than six, I mean, you're basically an old man. I mean, you really missed the boat there.