 And then depending on the conditions, we kind of do the geese thing where someone takes the lead and there's a line of people behind him. And then as that lead goose gets tired, someone else takes the lead and we kind of cycle through. And that's if you're with someone. I've had whole years where like the year I went unsupported just because of how I was doing things with the cadence of having to boil snow for water. I spent a lot of that course alone just because of my timing was so far off of everybody else because I did have to melt snow for water.