 seven eight years older than me lou is the best he was the only boy six girls one boy he played with us he watched us when mom and dad would leave basically they went to funerals and that was about the only time they left home you know uh... but he was great sister donna hated us too i think she likes us now she would have been the third third down the chain like i said the only time mom and dad would leave the house was to go to funerals and i remember donna