 I think he's mid-30s. I'm not sure. He's young. Pretty young. Lovely guy. But what's going on right now, this circus, I think, benefits Burgum. And we're going to know in a week. By the way, next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, this show is in Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention when we find out who the VP is. When Republicans nominate Donald J. Trump.