 and and that's kind of what happened during world war ii and uh but yeah and they used to use powders a lot too back in the day as opposed to a paste that was all the rage 652 news radio 1310 knox but i saw that and i thought really it's only been around since the since after world war ii really really hit it really it took off after world war ii uh 652 news radio 1310 knox newsroom let's get in there right now with bill news on the twos knox