 So after Bill Smith as the Attorney General and I stayed with Ed Meese, I got an offer from Fred Fielding and Dick Hauser to join the White House Counsel's Office. And I did. There were only seven lawyers in the White House Counsel's Office in Reagan term two. And that was the greatest little law firm in the world with the most interesting things. I didn't do any of the interesting things. We had some very smart lawyers in the White House at that time, including a guy named Roberts who would go on to be the Chief Justice. I did stuff like protecting the presidential seal.