 In fact, we'll set aside the sticks. We used to do something in the Marines all the time, all the time, called bull in the ring. You know what bull in the ring is? Here's what it is. I, and you're allowed to challenge anybody, and anyone can challenge you, even someone of a higher rank. If you want to challenge your platoon commander, and you're young, you can do this. What I will do, I will go sit down on the ground with my legs out ahead of me,