 It was right in front of Trump Tower where I met David Letterman. David Letterman, speaking in like 2015, wrap your head around this. Letterman's been off TV. He's doing his own thing. He does, I think, a podcast of an interview type thing. And he hasn't shaved since. He hated shaving. Letterman did. And he's got that full, he looks like Santa. He's got that full on beard. But it's almost been 10 years he's been off the TV, which is really remarkable.