 kind of volitionally trying to ventilate the ears to try to remove the fluid. And if those are successful, then an otologist who's an ear surgeon can go in and place a small drainage tube in there to leak the fluid back out. So our general rule is if it's an outer ear or middle ear problem, that's a problem with getting sound into the auditory system. And usually that's something that's correctable medically or surgically. My first patient this morning,