 So I agreed to do it. And I remember it was the week before Thanksgiving. And we were having a fairly unusual snowstorm for Denver. And so I'm driving. At the time, I lived in the mountains north of Boulder, Colorado. And I'm driving down out of the mountains into Denver. And I'm just thinking, is this really worth it? Oh, my God. You know, the snow, the traffic's horrible. Everybody's backed up. It's a lot of snow. And I'm going in to do literally a 30-minute interview.