 So maybe you want to give him a call back, and we'll get him on after the break. We're going to take a break here in a minute anyway. Jonathan Martin from Politico going to join us. He was supposed to join us at the bottom of the hour. I'm guessing the president's immunity decision from the Supreme Court and the latest in Biden world is keeping him preoccupied. But he wrote a very long piece that dropped on Friday in Political Magazine about the influence of the Dakotas.