 And when you talk about denying the fact that you were responsible for the lives of my buddies, it hurts. It hurts bad. Jim, thank you for your phone call. Thank you for your service. I'm coming right back. America, more of your phone calls at 1-800-520-1234. What did you think of Joe Biden's stumbling, bumbling performance? He wasn't as bad as the debate. Stay tuned. Horses of the Hugh Hewitt Show are brought to you by Job Creators Network.