 They contacted us by going to creativeplanning.com slash radio, just like you hear me mention each week. And their similarities were striking. One in their early 50s, the other in their late 40s, both wanting to retire in their mid 50s with an early retirement. Both had done a fantastic job saving a little over $2 million of portfolio assets. So in a really good place, considering that they didn't spend a whole lot of money.