 So pipes are guarded there, and they're guarded at the top of where you may put baseboard or where you may put crown molding. Right. But in between, they are not. Because there's nothing to guard them. There's no way to guard them, exactly. And sometimes they put a pipe that's just about, if it's not a load-bearing wall, they get away with putting a pipe that pretty much takes away most of the stud, the bottom plate or the top plate. Mm-hmm.