 Right. That's him. He just didn't care. And he stayed forever. He couldn't have been nicer just hanging out and just not wanting to be in a hurry. So many people at ESPN just truly disliked the man. I remember when I moved to Charlotte and I started doing FNZ, and they gave me my show at WFNZ, I actually, for three straight years, counted how many times he said the word back during the home run derby.