 uh... probably not as fiercely as you would like uh... but which has uh... and not as seriously i would like either uh... because you think that this is a second marriage for both of us we've both had to kind of a just are uh... financial views a little bit a little give and take uh... and so i'm more gung-ho than he is but at the same time we are still paying them off uh... we've paid off a hundred thousand of them in the past uh... two years