 to communicate, months to walk through the bridge, to walk through the woods and the forest and to go across the streams, to go up the mountains and down. There was no way to communicate. Nobody knew North Carolina, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania, New York didn't know existed. And you bring out a great point that the providence, the hand of God had to be involved in this. You say when secular forces hasten, driving God out of America's culture some 65 plus years ago,