 And people know that, and I do think it's an issue. John, we also spent a good bit of time in a previous segment of the program talking about whether or not President Biden would pull out of the race. Your feeling is he is. Do you have an idea of who you think will end up being the nominee for the Democratic slate if President Biden does pull out? I'm not confident. I can imagine at least two tickets that would make sense. One of them will be Kamala Harris and Roy Cooper.