 And went back recently to either trace his heritage or maybe even find his parents. And I just find him to be a really interesting guy. He's physically fit, running marathons and doing stuff like that. But like I say, he's interviewed me a couple of times, and I just really enjoy his company. Nice. Thayton James will be with us tomorrow. Well, he owes you one then if he's interviewed you. He does owe me one. That's exactly right.