 Weiss Hopped. We'll call him Lil Guy. That sounds like a craft brew. I know. This Lil Guy has more than 20 years of executive experience. And he says that he pays people to work. He doesn't pay people to watch them work. So he says more CEOs should accept this as a strategy of actual work. That you're coming in, you're chewing the fat with the other folks at the office for a little bit right around the coffee maker.