 that's very well said well it is wonderful on this fourth of july america that i'm joined by dr arne a student of harry jaffa if you're just tuning in it's early on the fourth of july we're going to spend this hour and next recalling an interview that i aired repeatedly for 15 years in my old afternoon slot with dr harry jaffa about the declaration of independence about lincoln and about the understanding of why it matters even to this day so don't go anywhere instead begin your celebration by focusing on the first principles of the declaration