 it's about second just it just for the people at home james wrote a piece that you can read it in the times where he says all obama and clinton hold a series of town halls and they pick who gets to participate in that the ideas in the different regions of the country so that by the time you're into the convention everybody seen everybody and you can have are good vetting process and come out with a new ticket if you had to pick a ticket today james carville who was it