 He was one of the all-time great quarterbacks for a really long time. And then for a couple of seasons there, he was up and down a little bit. When he was down, he was kind of far down there, like middle of the pack. And the next year when he was up, all of a sudden, he was one of the top three best quarterbacks in football again. Well, since then, he's gotten a couple of years older. He's changed conferences. He went from Green Bay, the smallest market, to New York, the biggest market. And he's had surgery.