 Sometimes if they do it three or four times, I'll hear it. But the first time, even, and I'm in a room where I'm asking for this, but no, it's, you know, especially when you get on a personal level. That's in a business situation. Here's where, Marie, here's where you can elevate the whole, the maturity of the whole interaction. Do you want to tell your dad about this Ramsey plan and this get out of debt plan? Because you want him to look at you at the end of the day and be like, man, you really saved us.