 pinpoint one of the most listened to uh radio programs out there in the country and uh he has really run the race super well and uh it's really just heartwarming to see and it's inspiration to all of us of what pastor macarthur has been able to do be a faithful servant and again my big test is what did you do during covet and he passed not passed he led and he was unbelievably courageous so many of these guys just