 and you just take it day by day. That's where he would be. I mean, he has a huge interview tomorrow, and the moment there is not to talk about the political path forward. It is to be a healer and to lower the rhetoric and the tenor in the conversation in the country. It's just fascinating. Every conversation is going to be different, including that interview, Jen. I mean, she's telling me that I should be fearful. I'm scared for journalists. I'm scared for people who have public...