 Even something I read recently, I don't think they have the most acrimonious relationship. Well, I didn't mean to go down a Sammy Hagar tangent, but you remember Carl East? We were talking about Carl East a few weeks ago, a former program director here. Carl and I went to the Sam and Dave show back in the early... I guess this would have been around maybe 2000, 2001, because there was a period of time where neither Sammy nor Dave were lead singers of Van Halen. You know, Gary Cherone...