 After that, they were coming from other firms. I mean, they were just dumbfounded because they could not believe. I talked to someone yesterday, in fact, who was reminiscing over that whole dynamic, how their portfolio just evaporated. And it took a while to recover. It took a couple of years to recover, didn't it? It took, let's see, so the bottom was in 2009 in March, and then we didn't really see a recovery back to where it was at the beginning of 2008.