 Okay, but we're not worried about what the fans want. We want what's real and what's on the table. When you go from four to ten wins three years in a row, is it not turning a program around? Even though you can't beat the rival, did you not turn the program around? No, because you were third place in the East all those years. So if the Chargers win ten games but they don't beat the Chiefs, it's not a turnaround. The expectations of the Chargers are very minimal because it's one of the worst organizations in all the NFL. They ever get to a Super Bowl in Harbaugh?