 trying to realize fit, team, structure, all of those things against business interests. And to try to categorically dismiss the business interests, I think is foolhardy and disingenuous. But to also make that to be all to end all for everybody, disingenuous. So when he says, I got a story, I don't know how much else is there. I don't know how many more layers there are to it. But somewhere in between is where the truth lies.