 is nowadays you almost have to be kind of progressive with your thinking in order to survive. Otherwise, if you wait, there's no one out there with a safety net for you. And I think that's probably what Washington State, Oregon State thought, the Pac-12, and whether you want to go back to Larry Scott or whoever, for some of the other schools who were a part of the Pac-12 back then, that's probably what they thought was going to happen. Like, well, we're good.