 Yeah. Where he played, Ball State? He battled in the trenches, man. He's way, didn't y'all see? He battled in the trenches. He was a lineman. But he's way, way former. Way former, though. What do you mean? Like, he's just way former. But I'll say this. Did y'all see the one time, it was like been a few years now, when Stephen A. Smith was working out with his trainer and was punching the mitts? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it didn't look impressive.