 level when you put it up and that's the easiest thing because that strips lightweight so that you know the place and then when you take that strip down after the cabinets are all marked or are installed then you can either patch and paint the backsplash most of the time people are putting tile over it so it doesn't matter right so yeah great makes it a little easier no it's a great tip and uh it makes it a lot easier because you're supposed to do um wall cabinets go up before the base cabinets go up right