 But let's say that he's in a government job. Let's play this out. And I were to say, okay, what are you really good at? And he says, I'm really good at process stuff, detail stuff. Okay, great. Well, do you enjoy solving detail problems? He's probably going to say yes. Then I'm immediately going into the private sector and I'm going, all right, maybe look at project management, which is a viable career path that can lead you all the way up to a C-suite. That's how versatile project management is. It's just one example. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like,