 beholden on the quality of your pitcher. And in this case, there were certainly some veteran pitchers who have done it before. Dino Ebel, who was throwing the VP to Tasker Hernandez, the champion. Dino's one of the best VP throwers among all Major League coaches. Very well-known reputation for Dino. He's one of the greats. But I think that you're right, Brady, that we've talked so much about this format and what works best. I think at the end of the day,