 You know, when it comes to billionaires, the person that we work for, Mr. John Katimatidis, he is the most down-to-earth billionaire that I've ever met in my life. Mike Bloomberg is sort of like that, but not as far as Mr. Katimatidis and Mrs. Katimatidis are. As you know, Frank, you can sit down with the Katimatidis.