 Very interesting. Well, Jackie, I want you to hold on the line. We used to have a conversation off-air about this. This would be a pretty interesting discussion. Let me very quickly get to Mindy. We have about a minute here. We've got to get to some other content. Mindy, what are your thoughts? Hello? Yes, Mindy. Can you hear me? I can. Go right ahead. Okay, well, what I wanted to comment on was your...