 There's no interaction, and we know that Trump is much better at interacting with people than Biden, so that's a huge advantage to Biden that there's no audience. Okay, second thing, we know Trump has much more energy than Joe Biden, but yet, as I understand it, the Biden folks are working to try to make sure that they can be seated for the 90 minutes of the debate. So it takes away one of Trump's huge advantages that he has more energy, that he's a more imposing figure physically, and they're trying to neutralize that advantage.