 And the people wanted to meet me and I walked in and it was second appointment and they were considering joining us. They ended up joining us. But in talking to them, they said that they were having a hard time leaving the current firm they were with. And I said, I can understand that. They said, well, really, we've been with them almost 19 years and we really like them. And I said, let me stop you right there. I said, I'm happy to hear that because if you'd have told me you've been with them 19 years and you didn't like them,