 And so the students who are interested in this, they often discover a love for it that they didn't know they had. They try it out and they find it agreeable. So the first step is just persuade them. Why don't you try to do a story or two for the campus newspaper? And that's often the thing that turns them on to the idea that they've just got to try it out. But those who do, those who come to Hillsdale, many who work through the college fix have gone on to flourishing careers. They're working at the Wall Street Journal.