 20 years ago and that era of Pistons hoops to what we've gotten since 2008. And then there's Clippers history, which we touched on in the first hour tonight, as Paul George saying he is not resigning with the Clippers. He was on a Clippers team that actually won a second round playoff series with Coach Teron Liu three years ago. But the Clippers franchise, which has existed over 50 years,