 and garner the respect of someone who's a student of the game. I was one of the biggest students of the game because I was a fan of the game, so I always wanted to understand it. So it bothered me when people said things about me. Madman's like, it is what it is. So I get where he's coming from, and I think a lot of that has to do with the way he's raised. He's raised by a guy that has gone through it at the upper level of it all, and now here they are. So...