 this is and they're going to talk about you think these guys are going to go out there and cut those loopholes the loophole the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carried interest loophole i won't play the whole thing but he sounds like a different guy sounds like a different person and he was about 70 years old there i think he was about 69 he was 69 technically so it was not as if he was 25 years old in that clip that i just played he was you know almost double the age of paul ryan maybe not quite double but