 it's you know it's damaging to them in terms of their their ears but you know more than that it's just that that fright and what happens is a lot of times without really knowing where it's coming from and they have a safe zone a safe area now they might just leave that area and they otherwise wouldn't because they have usual you know very uh distinct perimeters and now they're going to be maybe having a hard time finding their way back you know if you have a dog sometimes they run they get scared