 First, a faith leader, political activist, and then a U.S. senator, Gretchen Whitmer being a governor now many, many years in Michigan. That kind of ticket, I think either of those tickets would match up better against Donald Trump and J.D. Vance than Biden-Harris does. I frankly think the Gretchen Whitmer-Warnock ticket would be more effective. It would separate a little bit more from Biden, which I think would be a good idea rather than having Harris as the vice president becoming the presidential ticket. But