 that he wins awards, he's aesthetically pleasing, he got very rich, but I don't consider him an all-time great team guy, and football's our team sport. And here's a great example. So Aaron's early career, he sits on the bench for three years behind a legend, and his rookie year, he's 6-10. So if you take his prime years from year 5 in Green Bay, got a slower start, and to year 17 where he won MVP,