 that'll win the world service this year but they're legit contender for a playoff spot which is starting after the year they had last season so those are two things i'm keeping an eye on okay well scott i want to ask you this in finality because they have certainly been in the news for how bad they are a 16 game losing streak how bad can it be how bad can it get can it get worse for the chicago white socks well i'll tell you what