 they turn off the television they lay the phone down face down yeah with the buzzer off and the ringer turned yeah and all this and they just sit and they're humans and there be with you mm-hmm Deloney is spending a lot of time talking about this as a matter of fact it's one of the six things you do for building a non-anxious life yes it's to build community and you have to be intentional about it in a world that has forgotten how to do it 100% gotta work so go with your main rent it's not even a mini rent it's a full segment right it is out there yeah