 living proof this stuff still works yes every day yeah and in a lot of ways too Jacob and I are both natural givers and so outside of our mortgage our giving category in our budget was actually one of the largest and so we were kind of practicing baby step seven even kind of before we got there so you know the travel and the giving part of that you know we give to things that we're passionate about we just couldn't wait to do that amen good for you good for you okay now