 for decades. And I had a friend at one point call me up. And this was like probably 30, 35 years ago or 30 years ago, maybe, um, said, come, you need to come over here. And I'm a musician also. I've been playing since I was about three years old. I probably learned how to read music before I learned how to read English because my mother was a concert pianist and her mother was a teacher. My mother was a teacher also, um,