 C.S. Lewis as a mystic. And when I read that, I just thought, well, my problem with David, who's a wonderful gentleman and scholar, he didn't go far enough. These are elements of mysticism in C.S. Lewis. David, they're not just elements of mysticism in C.S. Lewis. This is Lewis the mystic. And David points out to us that the first Christian mystic was St. Paul, who was transported to the third sphere, you know.