 because we've done it before. We still have two guys who commit every single day. Myself and AD, we commit to excellence. We commit to winning. We're not that far off. We were one year removed from the Western Conference Finals. This past year didn't go as well as we would like, but we're not that far off. There's so many teams in the league, so many great teams in the league, in the Western Conference, in the Eastern Conference, but we don't see that we're that far off either. And who was that? Was that Dave McKinnick?