 There would actually be a Pac-12, and you probably would have seen what happened to the Big 12 as far as its expansion, bringing in more teams. That probably would have been the Pac-12 had he been that conference commissioner. You probably would have seen the Big 12 decimated, and the Pac-12 would have had all the growth, all the teams come to it had he been the commissioner there. So he has done a tremendous job.