 Mr. Gabelman, Justice Gabelman estimates 150,000 to 200,000 ballots may have been affected statewide by this illegality and fraud. Now, maybe you say, okay, well, that's not big enough to affect the outcome of the election. Bill Barr says there's no evidence of fraud that's big enough to affect the outcome of the election. Well, the margin in Wisconsin was a little over 20,000 votes.