 uh and joe hated the way this turned out so much and he regarded himself as a sucker for listening to the media and doing the interview he didn't do another interview charlie for almost 15 years which is sounds impossible in our modern day social media age i mean trump has basically confined himself to true social for last week and a half so everyone's acting like he's disappeared off the face of the earth i mean you may have noticed that this morning that that's what people are doing joe didn't do an interview for a decade and a half