 I want to start doing the baby steps. The math is there. I make enough and I have enough left over to start getting some traction, but it's, you know, at the end of the month, we're like, where'd it go? We feel like we're not doing anything extravagant, but obviously we are. It's just, it seems like fast food and gas stations and then Mother's Day's, birthdays, et cetera, you know. But whenever, it seems like whenever the money conversation comes up, there's just a lot of emotion tied to it and it kind of devolves into,