 Cutter and changeup. He's trying to keep the ball down in the zone. His history here in this ballpark, though, is not very good. He's made two starts here. He's given up 14 runs in nine innings. And the Nationals have gotten on the starting pitchers early in this series. They've been attacking fastballs in good spots rather than chasing pitches early in the count. So the key is to get the ball up with Gibson and try to do damage because he's not overpowering. Yeah, he's been around. The Orioles has really moved around the last few years in his career, coming to the Cardinals.