 would come up to us periodically because you could tell there was a certain degree of fright from the residents who wanted to help the animals because they didn't want to interrupt with this gambling ring as it was going on with the dogs. So, you know, periodically you would get information, but someone came to us and told us specifically about this one apartment where two of these dogs were being kept and then they were being chained to a radiator, right? So now this person had seen it.