 We did a long conversation with John about the Carolina Camera and about television news back there. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. Well, and what I was saying is I came out at the invitation of Bob Inman to watch him do the newscast one night, and then we wandered down the hall, and Henry Bogan was down here. And so I met him, and also Mike Collins was the program director at the time. So Channel 3 was my doorway into 1110, and I was this kid who was like, ah, TV's fine, but I want to see the radio station. I'm so glad they opened the door. It was like career day for you.