 between Sinwar and other leaders of Hamas outside of Gaza, where he's talking about the bloodshed of Palestinians is good. This is in their interest, that they want to inflame the place. They want Palestinians to suffer because it is a tool of war against the Israelis. So I think he's thinking in terms – Edron N. Bergman, which was a tough – I think you mentioned that it was a tough interview. He's an Israeli journalist. Yes, he was a reporter for The New York Times.