 and basically it traced it back to the very first mitochondrial Eve. This is the DNA that's passed down in the female line from the mother to the grandmother to the great-grandmother, et cetera. And they, in the Science Magazine of 1998, calibrated the mitochondrial clock for genetic Eve at 6,000 years old. Let's go to Wayne, okay, in Tacoma, Washington. Wayne, go ahead. You're on with us.