 And welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Norrie with Nick Cook. Nick, what kind of technology do the Russians have? Well, when I was back at Jane's Defense Weekly, so we're talking here sort of, I started there in the mid-80s, but in the latter part of that decade, of course, it was fascinating to speculate what the Russians were working on when it was still the Soviet Union. And we used to spend a lot of time