 Yes, so Kevin O'Connell was one of them. And Shane Steichen, I think, is interesting. It's very early, you know what I mean, just a year in, but it's just a year for D'Amico. He had a disaster at quarterback situation last year after Anthony Richardson got hurt. I liked what he did. And then one other thing I'm remiss to leave out. What you're saying about Kevin Stefanski is true.