 But I think that President Trump, first and foremost, he was obsessed with the idea of the most eyeballs on a convention where it's like The Apprentice. So he had that as an idea, because every time I spoke to him about this, that was his idea. Number two, he was legitimately trying to not make a Pence mistake. And because of that, he wanted to exhaustively hear from everybody multiple times, every argument, until he could repeat them back. Everybody was weighing in and calling and