 So this is the Giants' front office, and they're talking about, at the time, should they release Saquon Barkley? Because, right, what are they going to get in return? What's his value? So listen to them work through this. It's a little more than a minute, but it's pretty good. They're talking about whether they should or should not release Saquon. Obviously, Saquon, franchising and trading him I don't think is realistic.