 Talking to my old friend Eric Spanberg, who for years and years, well, decades, actually, Eric and I did a weekly thing, and I got him nearly fired, or either Johnny Harris or the mayor wouldn't talk to him for a week or ten days after our segments. I think it's when he got the managing editor's title based on the pay that he got for doing the show. Well, it's probably because I retired and he actually had a chance to get promoted.