 I haven't had the opportunity. I've spoken with Jake Dicker in the past. He's pretty impressive. I've not had the opportunity. Yeah, he's a nice guy. He's a good guy. He comes from the North Dakota state kind of coaching tree where a lot of people kind of come from. And then Trent Bray is the other guy. And I'm sure you talked to Andy Avalos today. I did not have a chance to speak to Andy Avalos, Sonny.