 You know, we went into the sauna together, and I remember he was telling me, because he was a health nut, he is a health nut, he was telling me, oh, this is just like a third kidney, and he beat me with oak leaves, which is also supposed to be good for you. He had been president, this is a Brooklyn kid, he had been president of the Coney Island Polar Bears Association, you know, they did that.