 and all this ghostly stuff you talked about, and he looked at me and he kind of smirked. He goes, kid, I was, you know, involved in this stuff for many, many years since I was a kid. He said, let me tell you, this stuff is real. And he started recounting some more stories to me. And the thing was, there was a guy with him and Lorraine, a young man. He was probably a couple years older than me. And he was sitting next to Ed with a yellow notepad. And I didn't know who he was. And then...