 and LeBron, we talked about the anniversary of the decision a couple of weeks ago, that it just changed how it came together. I mean, the other day there was a, I don't even know what the context was, but clip as I'm flipping around the radio, talking about when Carl Malone and Gary Payton and company joined the Lakers. And if you don't put yourself back in the mindset, like it takes a second to put them in that uniform because they'll always be Utah and Seattle.