 A portion of the interview that I did with Jerry West years ago, talking about when he did work him out, they decided they were going to trade. And Vlade was a fan favorite with the Lakers. You trade him to Charlotte, and you got Kobe. So the Nets had, I think, the ninth pick? Eighth or ninth pick, is that right, Marvin? Eighth pick. Okay. John Calipari was the head coach of the Nets.