 you cannot succeed in this and i i'm just being trying to be objective you do you agree with me that you if he is i'm kate if he's not capable of sitting down with you and with david here or with me and and and center-right people as both of your people in the middle how in the world can you run for president i think it's really really difficult and i i i think you're going to see more of these polls shift i mean there hasn't been a seismic shift as of yet but i do think it's