 He might be right about that, and I would use the Denver Nuggets as of late as an example here. But in the NBA, and I think what you saw with this free agency period and everything that happened, and you're hearing about the second apron, second apron this, second apron that, basically if somebody who didn't get a contract they wanted or if a team traded a player for picks or if a team was not able to do something that you thought they should do, the excuse was second apron.