 I can still- I remember when you first started doing this little side gig. Yeah, I remember when the program director at WBT called me up and said, we're looking at a faith and values program we'd like to do on Sunday morning. And your name came to us as someone with a communications background, which I do have. And we'd love for you to try out and see if this is something that you would like to do or we would like to have you do. And I came in on a Saturday afternoon.