 It was about, if you just took, you know, because pitchers' arms give way. Obviously, Verlander pitches forever, and Adam Wainwright, Roger Clemens. There's these guys that are, you know, warriors. They pitch forever. But if I said, like in the Sandy Koufax, if you said five years of greatness, if you took the best five or six years, Koufax is the best, I wonder if Martinez is...