 And so Mike Gundy can take a more forceful stance against DUI, whether it's the suspension or not. But coming out and talking about, oh, it's OK, he's very dismissive of getting behind the wheel of a car impaired. And at some point, Ollie Gordon is lucky that not only did he keep his own life, but he didn't impact somebody else's life or their family's lives by getting behind the wheel and ebriating it.