 so why don't you go ahead and throw some out and we'll see if i agree or disagree i'll maybe call you crazy yeah i also just might agree with you at this time of the year we're always talking about good teams and who can be a surprise we rarely are really looking at who did we think and know are going to be bad who's going to be in the quarterback sweepstakes next year in the draft the big time receiver sweepstake who that big rush in that's going to pop out of nowhere that big left tackle that can play for the next 10 years and