 And then he says all other presidents combined. And then I'm thinking, okay, he's trying to amend what he just said. Whether that's true or not, don't know. But let's assume it is. That's a big assumption. Let's assume that is true. Then all other presidents combined. Okay, so he's amending the statement that he just finished saying. But then he says, and in major positions, cabinet positions. Okay, so now wait a minute. Are you saying that you're including...