 right, don't make it your whole life, have some hobbies, do some other things, right, affinity groups, whatever, do different things, you'll meet other people, and then you can, you know, talk politics there, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, but no, that's why, so it started as a tribute to John, and I've just, I've done it ever since, and now it's going on, I don't know, what, 12 years, 13 years?