 But Lester Holt, the NBC nightly news anchor, sat down with President Biden. And here's what Biden said and was asked about as it relates to J.D. Vance. Just shortly before you and I sat down, former President Trump named his vice presidential pick J.D. Vance. What does that tell you, his qualities? What does that tell you about former President Trump's values in terms of who he will surround himself with in the next administration should he win?