 mean to us it was kinda like okay i knew he'd be bad maybe not that bad but that that big a surprise but he was back out there on the campaign trail david yeah joe biden tried to get fired up at a rally after that debate and he tried to throw out a new nickname for donald trump okay roll it america's flat on its back so i told trump that it was just one of two presidents of american history who left office with fewer jobs than he started herbert hoover was the other one