 Well, I mean, I'm the one that shook hands with Sonny Payne, but I never got his autograph. Oh, man, that is so awesome. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Before we break, tell me, where was Sonny Payne was one of the greatest drummers of all time and maybe the best swing drummer aside from Buddy Rich and certainly Mr. Krupa, but really, Sonny Payne was the Count Basie drummer when Basie was in his prime with Mr. Sinatra. And where were you when you met him there, Frank, again? In Roseway and Gantor. Oh, my...