 the yin and yang between the two of them. So it was memorable like that. But then when they splinter off and Olbermann did his own thing, obviously he's worked for every network at this point. What's the guy's name that does, I think, some kind of a play-by-play for the Dodgers? Charlie... Charlie Steiner, yeah. Yeah. There was something about Charlie Steiner that I always liked. Yeah, he was very personable. And if you could somehow or another get to his funny bone, when he would start to laugh almost out of control...