 of its signing on 1776. Those are John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. So, I thought, who better to turn to than someone that knows a thing or two about both Washington and John Adams, and by the looks of her writings, Jefferson as well, and that's Dr. Lindsay Shervinsky. She is an award-winning historian of the presidency, political culture, and government institutions, and when I interviewed her for the first time, she was just a lowly, award-winning historian and best-selling author,