 To that point, when we get into Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson, whoever you want to throw into that debate and discussion, you've got to add the nuance, and that's what we lose in a lot of these, is the time and place and game and circumstances that change along the way. How many teams are playing? What is the league's status at some time? When Magic and Bird came in, one of the biggest advantages you had was to be sober.