 not necessarily against all immigration or hating immigrants or anything like that, but the notion that the border is chaotic, the border is dangerous. Shouldn't we have some kind of more coherent system that keeps our country intact? We can let new people in, but we know who they are. We can do a background check, all that sort of thing. That's a hot issue. Again, there are some Democrats who care a lot about that issue and Republicans, they've already made up their minds, but there are some swing voters or people who are sort of soft