 I've known a lot of very learned people and work with them all the time. This man was very special. And the discovery of these themes, you don't see it in these interviews because, first of all, you're doing a very good job with him, Hugh, but in addition, so far he's not fighting anybody. But he was always fighting people. His friends, right? He was always kicking on somebody and kicking the daylights out of them for making a mistake. He loved the quote,