 i'm talking to you right here jeff we tried to talk to you last week i'm being rude to roger we'll deal with you later as far as i know there was no conversation that was had later because i think we would have heard about it and it's kind of crazy that jeffrey simmons it was only a couple days ago the general manager was bigging him up as a captain and a team leader and everybody's entitled to have their moments everybody is but that's that's that's that's doing too much right