 that shows that he will go away. I've heard this from another New York Times reporter I was talking to over the weekend. And I don't think this story has been told enough publicly, at least recently. I never thought of Joe Biden as being as stubborn as a mule. I thought of him being a lot of things, of being craven and being opportunistic and ambitious. But he is headstrong, willful, almost obstinate. Tell us about that. Yes.