 to be able to say, hey, where am I at and what is my what's my career path? I think another another way to my son's been working on this where he's at is working with those, you know, his lack of a better term, his boss or the people that are in charge and saying, looking at where can I be in five or 10 or 15 years with this job? And is it going to get me where I want to be financially and having those open conversations? And it's been really beneficial for him.