 Oh, and a number of managers, supervisors, bosses, right, VPs, they want to see someone that has that initiative. They want to know that you want to go somewhere in the company. So what does it look like five years from now? Where could I be? How do I get there? Help me develop a career path. And again, if they don't show you something that can help you get to where you want to be, then it's probably worth looking at either a different company or maybe even a different industry that some of your skill sets could be applied to.