 I said, but if what Justin Peters is saying, this entire list, if it's all true, then he's not saved. Fine, I'll say that. So if this was all we know of Luther, and there was no repentance, and he hardened his heart, I don't know that you can be a child of God and do that. So I was saying, if this is the evidence I'm being presented with, just like the evidence against Benny Hinn, evidence against Kenneth Copeland, if that's true, then I'd say, yeah, none of them saved.