 and hugging his wife and kids. That's the picture that everybody gets. And those guys are larger than life. I mean, like Rusty Wallace. Rusty Wallace is one of those drivers. He was an entity. Thank God Rusty's still around. He's still hanging out. But I hope John pulls through it, but it's one of those things. We all look at those people larger than life. I mean, Michael Jordan, larger than life.