 And I just want to stop there for a few minutes and have us discuss the church today. I'm going to possibly play a couple of sound bites here. They would be from the Prophecy Prose, and that would be a program hosted by Jeff Kinley and Todd Hampson, and I happen to have a guest on, Brandon Holthaus, talking about these issues. I think the thing that troubles a lot of us would be the silence of the church on a lot of issues.