 in order for the body of Christ, according to Ephesians chapter 4, to be equipped for the work of ministry. And some of the things that are offered as reasons for skipping these things, I think one of the prime examples is that guy down in Texas with the warm smile and always happy look. He said, people have enough going on in their lives already. They don't need to come to church and hear negative things. And let me point back to what I mentioned from Revelation 14.