 The other problem is because we often hear about those in the media and we hear those stories a lot, we can have not careful that drip feed of fear. And the media can at times operate on fear. Even sometimes the Christian media, it has to be said, we end up feeling, well, it's going to happen to us. The moment I open my mouth, this is guaranteed to happen. And what we don't hear is the stories of the tens of thousands of Christians who have actually begun finding ways to talk naturally about their faith at work and bad things haven't happened. I remember the first time I met a,