 And I was able to find those quotes lickety split, although it's driving me nuts because the guy that I'm thinking of has two C's in his letter. It's his name and then the town that he's from. And he was also engaged in the discussion and debate about what do we do with Christians who under duress deny the faith in order to spare their own lives? Do we let them come back in? And he was a Cyprian of Carthage.