 it is it's it's lives lost and it's also the creation of a world in which more people are at risk and i think people are tired to be at risk you know and we're going to see how this plays out i'm sure emotional appeals will be made and it will be a battle of emotion and logic as this issue always is dr john lott president of the crime prevention research center and author of books like gun control myths how politicians the media and botched studies have twisted the facts on gun control thanks for joining us today