 to carve the chicken skin. And really all they had to do is flame kiss it and get the skin crispy all by itself because there isn't anything more tastier than chicken skin that's been flame kissed on a barbecue grill, on a grill. That's right. And you are exactly right. And that's what you, that was a secret to your ribs too. But thank you so much, Dave. And you can find him on social media at Famous Dave on Facebook.