 All right, we're back here on The Conversation. I'm your host, Eric Early, and we've got my special guest today, Mike Netter, one of the two California disruptors who started the original and successful recall effort to get rid of Gavin Newsom, got it on the ballot, and unfortunately, for many reasons, didn't pass. So, Netter, talk to me. Where do you want to go next with this?