 would have glued it down you know in my yeah well so i don't think they did i don't know if that's the issue i've also so what i said to him i said well here's the problem if it's just a matter of this floor why is it happening we have two bedrooms on the upper well it's a ranch but two bedrooms on this first floor as well underneath the carpet it's doing the same thing and that's not the same type of floor that we have throughout the house obviously there's probably plywood or