 And it's also not legit to try and get them off their talking points. Talking points are useful. Most people don't pay much attention to this stuff until late in the day. Let the candidates talk. Let them speak, as Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas did in their famous debate of 1858. It was the most consequential set of debates in American history. The audio recreation of those debates with David Strathairn, Richard Dreyfuss playing the parts of Lincoln and Douglas, respectively, very much worth your cost, by the way,