 We have the hanging judge in the house. I say that just respectfully but jokingly to Judge Phil Ginn, but it's an honor to have him. He's got a brilliant testimony for Christ. We've had him on before. You can go back and listen to that podcast, his testimony, how he became the founder and the current president of Southern Evangelical Seminary in Matthews, North Carolina, where we have 105.7 FM, great affiliate of this show. But Judge Ginn, give us a little bit of background as people are trying to frame what in the world even happened