 But they will be passionate about things that only make sense if God exists. The most obvious one in our culture is justice. So many of our friends and neighbors and colleagues, they're concerned about justice. They're concerned about human rights. And the wandering question, you look for that thing that your friend is concerned about, passionate about, and you gently say, hey, have you ever wondered? Have you ever wondered why humans have value and dignity? I mean, if we're just a collection of atoms and particles, where does value and dignity come from?