 and then he moved to linebacker, and that's where he and I, you know, played together in Buffalo, where he was a stack linebacker, he ended up making the Pro Bowl two times, so he's, he, on his own dime, he came up here, and he's hosting 15 kids from, mainly from Butte, but also surrounding area, where he's putting on this free camp, linebacker camp, and, and so I'm gonna go up there and watch him, I'm gonna learn from him, because I think you can always learn from these guys, and