 uh yeah yeah but talk about talk about that bond that you guys must share then because of that yeah you know i just um i think good work is good work no matter where you you come across it and um i met eric years ago he opened for our band in uh in milwaukee and i remember hearing him from the green room and walking out and just watching his whole set from the side stage and you know i try to i try to make a point of listening to whoever's on the bill but i