 And then you free them up from time to time to, hey, man, go make a play. And that takes a combination of experience and expertise to know when I can make a play and when I need to lay back. Got to feel like going into his fourth year. He understands the game now where if he has more opportunities to make plays, he's going to make a ton of plays and get his hands on a lot of balls. Seven interceptions over the last two years. I expect that number to continue to grow.