 Oh, they were very much into revolutionary change back in the day, back before they were the ones in charge. Well, that's why I interrupt. So help me understand. So why is it like, I mean, they were, if it feels good, do it, turn over the tables. But now it's like we don't want any changes whatsoever. Help me understand. It's not something that happened since 2016. It's something that's been going on since 1980. Think about what you call to mind when you hear the 60s.