 Talking to this man, this former lieutenant colonel, he was getting to be more of an interesting person. Like I said, he had actually given us some background that we could look into. Of course, I looked him up when I got home, and everything he said verbatim checked out. He had been, I guess at the height of his career, commanding a unit during the Reforger operation in Germany. Reforger was to be a speed bump, so to speak.