 And yet they prop him up as some sort of a force for good. I don't believe that he's a force for good. I don't necessarily believe that Trump's a force for good. I just think that they're both politicians. They both have their ambitions. And I think coming up, we'll hear what Donald Trump has to say. I think a lot of people will be surprised by what Donald Trump has to say. Better inner dialogue, I believe. David John Oates with us tonight on Ground Zero. 503-225-0860. That's 503-225-0860. Back with more Ground Zero. Don't go away.