 And then he can climb up the side of the CNN center and all the helicopters can shoot down his candidacy. Isn't that what maybe the Democrats are hoping for? And they're hoping that Joe Biden can stay up that late and make it through 90 minutes. They're going to give him two commercial breaks and they're going to give the microphones shut off when you run out of time. So there's no over talking each other and there will be no people.