 But he's not a third guy on the level of a Drew Holiday and those guys. Well, he's offensively he can be better than Drew Holiday. But he wasn't this year. And he's not the defender. But he's banged up on it. That's his main problem. He's always hurt. But my point is, and I'm not arguing with you that they can win the West. What I'm saying is they are looking at their roster saying, why am I going to break this up to start from the bottom?