 I can even call it a road. It's more of like a mule path. It's rocky. It's uneven and very steep. And then when you get to the top of it, it's a thick forest on the top. And we had to use our compass. It was the first time I've ever had to use a compass to navigate in Arizona to get across the top of it to look at the Sycamore Basin. When we reached the other side to look at the basin, we saw nothing. And the sun was going down. We saw no lights. Coming back, we're walking through the forest in the dark on the top of the mountain and