 A lot of people think it has to happen for the fortunes of the Democratic Party. Last minute, can you name two people that you think would emerge right now off the top of your head? Well, obviously you'd have Kamala would be a candidate, I would think. And Gavin Newsom has been hanging around the edges of this for some time. He probably would run. Gretchen Whitmer has a lot of credibility within the Democratic Party. She probably would. Josh Shapiro, the popular Democratic governor and relatively centrist candidate.