 D Wade had already led a Miami team to the championship. LeBron had led a team to the finals. I mean, so these guys were, were at their best. And we had Carlos Boozer, Jason kid, who obviously was an experienced player at that time. Darren Williams. Remember Darren was, Darren was one of the best point guards in the league. Michael ran for shooting the white Howard in his prime, Chris Bosch, Chris Paul and mellow and Tayshaun Prince. So Tayshaun, like the role player,