 And then he said that the Trump campaign said yes too quickly. And then he said yes, apparently before the Biden campaign came out with their rules. But the Biden campaign, apparently by the time that they sent CNN their rules, they hadn't fully realized that or hadn't been fully reported yet that Trump had already accepted. And the way that Jesse viewed it was, oh, wow, Trump kind of got himself into a mess here because they accepted the debate and these rules were too restrictive. I don't know if I think that's what it was.