 These lights are coming out of the ground. They're amber in color. They change shape. They get very bright. They get very dim. And she said the most peculiar thing about them is there's helicopters out there. There's black-hot helicopters that are escorting some of these away. And I remember turning and looking at Algena and saying, that's bizarre. But it wasn't too different from a few things that we had seen at our own time. So...