 Now, the amber ball of light was plainly visible without the night vision. And in the night vision, it was almost blinding. In fact, when it did actually seem to grow in size, there would be kind of like a distorted ring around it. And again, instinctively, you want to take your eyes away from the night vision so you can get a better look at it. It was blinding. So we're watching it, and it slowly rises up to not a great altitude, but roughly the same altitude that these helicopters are at,