 Well, I obviously don't think the national debt should be zero, but it's at $34 trillion and growing. We're on track for the interest payments on that debt to be the largest line item on our federal budget. So just to draw the individual analogy, you know, do you have a loan on your car? Do you have a loan on your house? It's one thing. If the interest payments that you're making on your loans are the largest item that you or your family spend on,