 But if they have their birth time, then I can see where their moon is. I can see their house cusp. I can see where... I use a few other little weird things like Eris, E-R-I-S, wherever she shows up in a chart. That's usually where somebody's going to come and bring their Trojan horse with them. So I look for little things like that. Sometimes these things aren't activated. What I can tell you, I did notice just through my own clients, it seemed like Leo's,