 All of a sudden he's out, and we get the best news we could have got was someone like Jonathan Smith. So to see him build a program up over at Oregon State from what we would call a dumpster fire over there to an 8-4 team that's going to a bowl that's, you know. So for him to be able to do that and then come over here into a similar situation, that is really intriguing. That's something to be excited about.