 and I got a short-style holster for it that leaves the barrel exposed, so I just take the end of the barrel in my pocket. Even driving around, I don't even notice it's there. What would you consider your effective range of being able to hit something with either the pistol or the carbine? Well, with the pistol, I took it to the range just a couple weeks ago, and I put a 10-shot group in a quarter size at 25 yards. Holy cow.