 And if I've done my job properly enough and I've given you enough information, you should be able to make that decision. And so I think that people go into these situations and they know that it's an issue. They know that they need to solve it, but they're not maybe getting the knowledge that they need. I know that when we've done certain tax planning for clients, we've had conversations over the course of one or two meetings and they'll say, man, we met with an advisor a couple of years ago.