 So these people, Gayle King saying this, this is a signal to everybody else that it's all right to say it. Why? Because Gayle King is part of the inner circle. Gayle King is best friends with Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey and the Obamas are like their thickest thieves. They are, that is part of his inner circle. They visit each other at their respective estates in Hawaii. They hang out in Montecito. They are close. For her to feel free to say this,