 Did he try to claim that it was good debate for the president? No, I don't think anybody did that. There's just no sugarcoating it. I think all the polls and results have shown that. But they're trying to make some extenuating arguments about incumbents usually never doing well in the first debate. And he's being under a cold, just like Trump was probably who had COVID in the Cleveland debate the first time. So more just kind of excuses and things, but no real sugarcoating the fact that he had