 and then he gives you good defensive value in a way that allows Rob Thompson to put the best team on the field, I would tend to give the edge to Harper in that scenario. But if Harper's only 60% of Otani, and if he comes back from injury, he's not quite the same player, then it changes things. But I do think you give, I always give at least, bonus credit to players that give big defensive value to their team or give