 So I had no sooner gotten an instant message fired off to Tom, this young man said that he was six miles in the canyon, had this encounter with these guys, and the last impression he got of these men that had accosted him, if you will, and almost shot him, he said he looked in their eyes when they lifted him up, and they were all looking at him. He said they didn't look human. And that really struck me that he said that, because I hadn't heard any other witnesses around here that had run into these paramilitary contractor types say that. And Tom...