 to address the strong likelihood that they're going to be shipping some guys out with Ingram and maybe allowing Jonas Valanciunas to walk as an unrestricted free agent. Talking with Mark Medina, Medina Magic, every Saturday night here at midnight Pacific time on the Bernie Frato Show. All right, I'm glad you mentioned DeMar DeRozan because I always find a way to six degrees of Kevin Bacon in these NBA deals, and I'll tie this together.