 And then we go back to 2005. Art was joined by physicist Dr. Claude Swanson as they discussed the changing and challenging of fitting the paranormal into the current scientific paradigm. A couple of great programs. We ask you to take a listen. It's classic audio. It's available to Coast Insiders. You can listen on multiple platforms. You can sign up in Canada, the U.S. George, it's so easy to sign up. It sure is. And why do people sign up to be an insider? Because they have fun. I'm a Coast Insider because...