 And his wife are at the end stage of their life. My husband's dad is on hospice care right now, and he's got maybe a couple of weeks left. And his wife is borderline dementia, and she doesn't really have the ability to hold it together enough to keep track of their finances. So it's something that my husband and I have taken over for them just in the last couple of weeks. And what we found out is super scary. They have about $70,000 worth of debt.