 and he took OKC to the playoffs. They were trying to rebuild, and Chris Paul's like, no, no, no, get out of my back, Shea Gilgis-Alexander, and whoever else was on that team at that point. We're winning a bunch of games. So I give him credit, man. He clearly loves the game, and he's clearly respected as a veteran guy that, as you said, can kind of step into an organization and make a difference with young people.