 And there are more women athletes every day. But this is a total surprise. They were debating on whether boys who think they're women or girls should play against men. And we watch people like Alex Morgan, Reagan, Reagan, Megan Rapinoe of the women's national soccer team say I have no problem with it. I hardly doubt it if they actually played against it. But that was the hearings that took place yesterday. It's all part now of the school experience. Betsy DeVos, USP Secretary of Education, joins us now. Secretary, great to see you. I'm just wondering, did you ever think we'd be debating this?