 We're trying that the L.A. Rams were trying to get Brian Burns a few years back. And the Rams offered a first round pick in 2024, a first round pick in 2025 and a second round pick in 2025. And the Panthers said, no, he's untradeable. We'd like to keep him only to what? Less than two years later, give him up for the Giants, give him up to the Giants for what they gave him up for.