 and I don't think anyone could complain with the performance, which is being a debate moderator is one of the toughest things you could do. Chris Wallace was really respected, and he wasn't even able to do a very good job of that in Cleveland last time. So it should be commended, and a lot of the new things we saw in this debate should be used as a model going forward because I really do think it improved the process, even though some of the content may not have been great. Certainly the setup and the rules and everything I thought were a good market improvement. Aaron Call, did you get near Gavin Newsom, the California governor at all, in the spin room and observe him?