 His people thought, well, if we put out these rules that are so restrictive, like they can't have prepared notes, but they can make notes on a provided for pad on the debate. They can't sit. They can't have notes. They can't talk to their campaign people on commercial break. They can't go and huddle with their campaign on commercial break. It's kind of interesting. It seems as though it's 90 minutes. They can't interact with their staff.