 And then when they find out they're not alone in the world, that there are a lot of people with these same symptoms, then that's very reassuring to them. Now, the first time I ever heard about it, and each of these things I get into is rather reluctantly. You know, I'm a scientist, and so I have this skepticism sort of built in. But then I want to see what happens, and so I'm willing to test things. And so this lady called me from New Brunswick, Canada, where she said,