 and managed properly, run properly, and he would hang out with them. He'd hang out in his house. A lot of his high-level guys would hang out at parties at the Schwab's crib when Schwab was growing up. Let's see. Somebody wants to talk to me here. Probably has the right answer. Yeah, we'll get to that in just a second. So that's where he came from. And when he first started the World Economic Forum,