 And that's where this comes out. So it's interesting. It's an interesting discussion. There's a combination between talent and sweat. And I think there are people that you could put them in front of a microphone for 15 years, and they still would suck. I mean, I think that's true. I think that's true about me in football, right? I'd still suck. And I don't have that natural physical ability. Never did. Had a little bit, but nowhere near that stuff. Paul is in California. Hey, Paul, what's up?