 And not having to travel, they benefited more than anybody else. But regardless, he won championships with three organizations. Now, I knew all about the LeBron Hullabaloo while he was at St. Vincent St. Mary's High School. I was in Michigan. I was with CBS Radio. One day I took a drive down to Cleveland from Detroit. It's only a two-hour drive, nice little drive around the lake. I wanted to see him play in person. It was probably around February or March of 2003.