 Well, that's hard to find for sure. And that's hard to find. Like I said, I was talking about heroes. They're hard to define, too. Vinny Eastwood, one of my heroes tonight on Ground Zero. We're going to talk more about the Julian Assange situation. And if you want to talk about how Joe Biden's been thrown under the bus tonight, we can entertain some calls that way, too, because I'm sure a lot of people want some therapy on that. It was really a mess. 503-225-0860. That's 503-225-0860. We'll be back.