 And that someone might not want her as the running mate. And that puts her right in the field with all the others for four years from now. And I can't believe I just said the word four years from now. So when she got on the camera, she said, oh, this is about more than just 90 minutes. And she kept getting pressed by the interviewer on CNN. Oh, it was Anderson Cooper saying, is the Biden we saw during the debate the one you see in the office every day? And she kind of refused to answer that question.