 And he had a lot of gravitas on that stage. You know, people have been asking me in the lead up to this because I had seen him a couple of weeks ago and did an hour and what, 10 or 15 minute interview with him. And I just said he is dialed in. I mean, he was he was up to speed on every single solitary issue. I could have asked him any question and he would give me a strong, articulate, informed, educated answer.