 Yes. They gave me some of the best advice when we first got into this almost 12 years ago now. He said, don't worry about getting evidence. Don't worry about photographs. And I said, why? He said, because no matter what you do, there's a skeptic out there that will doubt it. No matter how good your evidence is, they will throw doubt. He said, some skeptics, no matter how good your evidence is, it could be scientifically proven, will still find a reason to doubt it. So he said, if you're doing evidence,