 Are you willing to talk about it? And he paused for a moment, and he said, I'll tell you about it, but I don't want to go into too much detail. And he said that he had been in his senior year of high school, and that at the time his hobbies were riding his dirt bike and bodybuilding. He said at the time I was 200 pounds, I was into bodybuilding, and he said I took my dirt bike on the back of my truck to this place that goes down to Sycamore Canyon. He said I was about six miles in,