 He can show that he will be the contrarian. And I can tell you from having been on the debate stage with him, never underestimate his ability to take something that most people would just crumble under. And he comes back and punches it right over the third deck wall. It's just the way he plays it. Governor, you left something out. Saturday night, you were kind enough to join me live. And you said that you believe the shortlist was longer than it was for VP. What do you mean? We only have 20 seconds left.