 they would be screaming bloody murder. I give him a lot of credit. I mean, I actually do believe that Biden dictated these terms. I'll only do these networks. I insist on these rules. And Trump has no say in the moderators or the format, and he's going to shut off his micros. I'm not doing it. And if Trump said no, he would have said, okay, well, if Trump doesn't want to debate, he's a chicken. And I think they didn't expect Trump to say yes.