 most interesting scenario is we have we have ourselves was um... in a very uh... touristic canyon called boynton canyon uh... we've gone back in there uh... to look at an area where we heard some voices and some some hollowed fudge that sounded like bunker doors it's a longer story that i have time to tell on the the way out we were followed by a old u h one kiwi helicopter with a red lamp on the bottom