 A lot of people think that they've got to have a side hustle just to pay off debt or just pay the bills. In this case, when someone is that age, to the extent that you can do some extra work and leverage your skill and experience to pour more money on top of the little fire, the bigger that fire gets, that would be a direct challenge in this situation for him. That's very good. And that reminds me, when they're walking around out there in the world, people say,