 But that's just not true. He's a guy that's been signing paychecks for 40, 50 years. He's a guy that's been hiring people and putting people to work for 40, 50 years. He's a guy that has been making a nice life, a nice livelihood for tens of thousands of employees for many, many years. Oh, he was this and he paid late and he was a... Listen, everybody's going to have their own individual story. But over the course of half a century, this man has been building things, developing things and employing people