 I'm convinced that Carville is right when he says the family's going to have to be convinced. It's inevitable. We can't win with Joe Biden. I think David Axelrod is right. I mean, you've got the grand poobahs of the Democrats maintaining that this guy simply can't win. David Axelrod, can you cut the music, Eric, please? David Axelrod is a key figure in Democrat Party politics.