 And then I really got to like the author, so I read a number of his books. And I would love to have met him. And I'm taking my son up to Stanford to review the university to see if he was going to apply. And I'm sitting in the airport a half hour early before the return flight. And I hear this man's voice. And it sounded like the cassette tape of the book that I had been listening in to my car. And he's walking away from me. And I said, Jerry...