 And I actually didn't really understand it at that time. But essentially, for people listening, you know, companies have their boards. But as an individual who's on who's on your board, who are the people, the non-execs and James Klusky Inc. But secondly to that, what this person said was it's important to have a diverse board and not just have people that, again, just tell you everything is great and you're great, that they challenge you and make you think a little bit differently.