 And she says, you often refer to the particular judgment of all of us as having our exit interview with Jesus at the moment of death. I always thought that was a cute way of explaining the moment, you know, when the clipboard comes out and all that. And that's true. That is how I talk about it. But it dawned on me today that you always make it sound like a real verbal conversation. And if that's the case, how can we as humans talk to Christ without having our bodies? After death, she means.