 certainly not as conservative constitutionalists right you know it's interesting you brought that up i remember as a boy um when this all going down from you know basically 73 to 74 i was 11 and 12 years old and i never will forget my dad when we're sitting at the dinner table and i'm asking him all kinds of questions because you got to remember you know it it was on every day it's the only thing that was on the channel well the watergate hearings with sam irvin