 downtown indianapolis with 55 000 plus catholics just the joy just the palpable joy in that space just makes you come back and say i am unapologetically catholic and so proud to be catholic and so lucky so fortunate to be catholic so that's that's one theme and our kids were there our kids are 14 and 16 and just to see the impression left on on them as well this will be something that they'll remember for their entire life but yeah what did they have to say there's so many great