 And we say, hi, how's it going? And then we say, what have you been reading? And then someone says, for example, someone says, well, you know, I've been studying in Galatians chapter three. Oh, really? What have you been studying? And an hour goes by in which we're talking about Galatians chapter three. And I get off the phone and my wife says, so how are Kimberly and the kids? How are things going? And I stand there and I say, I don't know. We didn't talk about any of that.