 On certain occasions, between the hours of 8 o'clock, I think it was 11 o'clock at night, she would go into these ecstasies, not ecstasies, these agonies is a better word for it. I think like the great saint, she was also a victim soul. And she felt her insides being torn. She was in agonizing pain. They called doctors and physicians in to look at her. They couldn't figure it out. They gave her all sorts of elixirs. Nothing seemed to remedy the problems that she was having, this agony.