 Jonathan and Amanda Texera from WalletWin.com are joining me today and we are diving into ways to overcome the credit card debt this summer, alternatives, the full show is on vacationing, making it happening, navigating and moving around your current plans and making plans to begin with, which if you're like me, I haven't made any yet. You're listening to Trending with Timree. Jonathan and Amanda are here with me. Jonathan and Amanda, with the trend of vacations no matter what this summer for the majority of people,