 down in bloomington our music director is a convert his father was a presbyterian pastor okay and it was relevant radio that helped him on his journey into the catholic faith because as he was exploring that intellectually spiritually he was starting to recognize it it was so important for him because he was isolated he was working in a presbyterian church he didn't have that community he couldn't go to the local parish and start praying there because he didn't know he might lose his job right but it was a community and so