 Um, probably not as fiercely as you would like, um, which has, uh, and not as seriously as I would like either. Um, because, because this is a second marriage for both of us, we've both had to kind of adjust our, um, financial views a little bit, a little give and take. Um, and so I'm more gung ho than he is, but at the same time, we are still paying them off. Um, we've paid off a hundred thousand of them in the past, uh, two years. Yeah. What's he make?