 Well, yeah, Palme hasn't really much been acting since he was a little bit as a child. He wasn't interested in acting. Then Palme shows up at my office and is like, oh, did we have like a meeting or we're going to have lunch or something? Now I'm coming from casting. I wasn't there during the audition, but people from the company started calling me and telling me if I'd seen the audition or not.