 in some people's minds who were there or not there there could have been something that maybe was not so good uh maybe even something that was ugly so how do we decipher for example when you have fifty uh thousand sixty thousand uh catholics uh united in eucharistic processions and adoration and mass and and hefty workshops and uh and talks and and you see all this enthusiasm well what's the good that's the obvious that you have been talking about all morning