 Yeah, how old is he? He's only 40 years old. He is 40 years old in August. He'd be one of the youngest vice presidents in history and one with just two years of elected experience. My producer, Nick, was saying to me, don't you think he's too young, no experience? Well, take a look at that junior senator from Illinois named Barack Obama, right? He went on to become the president of the United States. So he is a figure very closely associated.