 But I thought Jesus hadn't been there the first time on Easter Sunday. Or rather, Thomas hadn't been there on Easter Sunday the first day. No, Thomas wasn't. But the second time that he was there, he said, or rather, I'm getting myself confused. I hope I'm not confusing you. That first time he said, I'll have to see to believe. I'm going to have to put my fingers in the marks in his hands and my fist in his side.