 Good. That's good. I mean, it's better than the alternative, which is that she's drifting further away. So how can you go about doing it? There is a technique that I myself use all the time. I find it very effective and it's easy to learn. You could do it easily. And it's called the Socratic method. Now, I'm sure you've heard of Socrates, the famous Greek philosopher from antiquity. So it's called the Socratic method because he was known for teaching his pupils