 And here to discuss that with us is Kent Lesnoski. He is the president of the new San Damiano College for the Trades in Springfield, Illinois. He formerly was a professor of theology at Wyoming Catholic College. San Damiano College for the Trades is part of a new crop of Catholic schools focusing on giving young men, especially the skills for a trade, but also at the same time giving them a solid grounding on the Catholic faith. They're at sandamianotrades.org. And Kent, thank you so much for being with us today.