 So I think the question is, when is he ever going to be prepared to stand down? The kind of discussion I'm hearing from Rwandans I speak to is that he's grooming his son or his daughter and that they are sort of in the running to eventually take over from him. So in this case, we would be seeing a dynastic kind of monarchical empire being established. Reporter Makela Rong, her book about Rwanda is called Do Not Disturb, The Story of a Political Murder and an African Regime Gone Bad.