 and you know you ought not to they're invoking whether they realize it or not an objective standard of morality that they expect other people to adhere to even if they themselves don't agree with it they expect or recognize that other people may not not believe in it they expect them to abide by it you shouldn't do that well what does that mean exactly is it just because you don't like it well no it's wrong you shouldn't do that what do you mean by wrong