 It's not as much an estate planning thing. It's they somehow get in their head that the government's going to get more if they let it happen through a will. And the government gets less if you let it happen through a will, even if it's a state where the probate tax is a little high. Yeah, probate is still cheaper than that tax implication. Yes, less than capital gains tax. I don't think there's a state that has a higher probate than capital gains. So it's more about control and control.