 and what they went through. And I was sort of repelled by it, but fascinated by it at the same time. I was impressed with saints like St. Dominic Savio and other saints. So I had that going for me as well. I don't know how typical that was of my generation. I would think probably most of my peers were not spending lots of time reading Lives of the Saints. But anyway, there's no judgment. It's just that I had a lot of that as a kid growing up. There's a kind of a formation within a formation.