 whether it's lesbianism or LGBTQ as such or whatever. And he said, he pointed out to her, he said, your problem, as is the problem of many people, is that you've whipped yourself into a frenzy and you're demanding that other people change their lives in order to conform to this worldview of yours. And yet your life morally is a mess. And he said, you're not willing to clean up your own life.