 They think that whichever way Hakeem Jeffries goes, if he stays with Joe Biden, then Biden's fine. And if he abandons Biden and says, we've got to make a change, then Biden will likely be gone. Joe Biden himself has said, I'm not leaving. And he has been defiant and repeated about it. And the truth is, in the Democratic Party, the delegates that give Joe the ability to be the nominee are bound to him.