 Well, what was effectively 5 o'clock here, 6 o'clock for you guys. Patty, you could have played that song for Caroline Sunshine in the 9.30 segment, but she was just across the way at Steve Gruber's show. Steve does the morning show in Michigan. And she's a frequent guest, as you know, but I've never met her personally. We've talked on the phone both on and off the air.