 If you're looking about what Zelensky really wants, what Ukraine really wants, they want to be part of the alliance to have all of the benefits, and they would ideally like all 32 members to send their troops to Ukraine and help them fight this war against Russia. But that's not going to happen. It's partly why Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion. But equally, the West has been unable to curb that Russian aggression. So I think with President Zelensky in Washington, there is a kind of cap on his expectations.