 And I think for me, too, or for those guys, I was a form of entertainment. I mean, I was someone who I was an active listener who was, you know, who was there to kind of entertain these guys who just maybe found me to be a bit ridiculous. I mean, here is this professor who just wants to be sleeping on the ground and being in the jungles with these guys when that's kind of the last place that they wanted to be.