 not only encountering them when I was growing up as a kid and then a teenager, and I would get hit with those arguments. I've told you the story before, I won't tell it again, but a girl that I was going out with that summer between my junior and senior year of high school, her dad was a hardcore anti-Catholic, nice guy, nicest guy you'd ever wanna meet. They treated me very well. They had a swimming pool, that was awesome. I bet I was going there to see her, but the swimming pool was nice.