 But they were revealed in and through the Catholic Church in such a way that people could have certitude that these books belong in the canon of the New Testament, which wasn't settled, first of all, wasn't settled for a few hundred years. We see the first glimpse of this in the year 383. So 382, 383, that span of about a year, there was a synod in Rome, a council in Rome, and it was the Pope. Pope Damasus I, by the way,