 and grab a cup of Joe. And they've got great, great, great pastries there. There's no doubt about it. It's fun having Steve Gruber on. He's a heck of a good guy. And we'll do it again tomorrow, we hope, if we can find some time to do it. He has a show in Michigan, but you can catch him anywhere. He's on, well, he's on three times the stations I'm on.