 forgiveness that they might need to offer. Uh, take me through that. Well, Drew, what I've found in doing this work for 22, 23 years is that pretty much all victims, no matter who did it, what type of abuse it was that, you know, they, they want a couple of things. They want an apology and they want to know that the perpetrator is not going to do it to anybody else. And, and,