 as had Plato before him. So he was open to at least that kind of extraterrestrial intelligence. But you look at folks like that, and he'll have arguments about, well, someone asked him, could there have been more than one incarnation? And he's just thinking about the human race, and he said, well, there wasn't. We know that. But could there have been? It's not essentially impossible. God could have done that. So that's an important thing. Another is that, as you mentioned, they may not even be fallen in a particular case.