 Um, so part of this, we have some obstacles we have to overcome and a lot of it is our own kind of, you know, stuff interiorly. And part of it's the culture that we perpetuated in, in the church. And let's acknowledge those things and say, there's some things that are going to have to change. So one of them is that we have this false understanding that sometimes this is just kind of too Protestant. You know, we kind of whisper that, right. It's, it's a little too Protestant. It's not, this isn't really Catholic.