 the type of harm that they had perpetrated, to induce emotional states like remorse and regret. Sometimes criminals don't feel that. As I said, sometimes they're sociopaths. They can feel the pain, the suffering of their victims, the victim's family. If we could do this and rehabilitate somebody rather than locking them away for 20 or 30 years or the rest of their life, would that be something acceptable? And we're talking about the morality of it.