 He came on with me on Monday, doesn't do a lot of media, but I wanted to, after we talked for a while and send some messages to the family and everything. And I said, let's talk about what happened after your father and the human component and what it meant to him. And Ronald Reagan was changed by that moment in small ways. And he shared some of the more personal ways while you're the president, you don't always get to go to church every week, for example.