 Well, back in the 19th century when I was born, we used to have to churn our own butter, if you know what I mean. And she literally means they had to churn their butter. There's nothing untoward about that. But it's that kind of stuff, right? It just goes on. And so you just find yourself zoning out. And then what you do is you just smile and nod every few minutes, like you're paying attention, right? Anybody know what I'm talking about here?