 Real quick, a real funny story with Scott Hahn. I went to the Franciscan seminars, and I met Scott Hahn one time, and I was talking to him, and I was telling him how much I liked you, and you weren't as well-known back then. And he said, Ken, he said, well, Ken's a friend of mine. He said, you want to talk to him? And he actually pulled his phone out and was going to dial you up. And I said, no, no, no, he's on the West Coast. I said, you're going to wake him up. It's in the morning. And then he just laughed, but we never called you. So, anyhow. What a crack-up. What a crack-up. Well...