 and his five great loves. And I had a chance to sit down and talk with him about suffering, about evangelization. Take a listen. Jason Evert. Invite us all into a moment of quiet, if we can. Just a moment of trying to enter into our morning together. Not the easiest thing, but we're all trying to rush to the next thing. Maybe it's actually appropriate, it's a good lesson for us, that when life is noisy,