 to Ukraine from the EU so clearly there have been tensions but I think Viktor Orban here was trying to present himself as speaking in his role as the rotating president of the EU and very much in that role trying to present himself as more statesman-like rather than this slightly more oppositional figure that we've seen in the past but no doubt that it would not have been an easy meeting I think behind the scenes judging from even just the short parts we saw in public.