 climate change isn't quite like a pandemic it's it's not an immediate crisis in that sense that we can act on after it happens we need to act before and it's not like a war so what we need is to think about this disruption nexus model to try and get these three corners of the triangle in place so of course we have the crisis going on we've got the water shortages in california or or hurricanes hitting other parts united states and other parts of the world