 And you have a bunch of intellectual lightweights that think that they're intellectuals, and they're not. And they are talk show hosts. The irony of all ironies, they like fake Jake. And, okay, he was pressured into doing a fair debate. That's how I describe it. And my view is pressured into it based on all of his own comments about Donald Trump that make him a liberal talk show host that pretends to be a journalist. They're not journalists.