 will need to go beyond simply tallying the debt. It needs to be part of a, quote, serious reparations program. And this brings us back to Boston. This is why we did this podcast in the first place, because Boston has announced a plan to create a serious reparations program. They've created a task force. For those of you who have not listened to the first seven episodes of What is Ode yet, you wouldn't have heard this part yet.