 If Mary is going to suffer, we can't possibly think that we're going to be living Christian lives free of suffering. You're listening to the Faith Explained on Relevant Radio. I'm your host, Cale Clark. And now let's get to Anna. She is the second prophetic witness here in the temple when Jesus is presented. And she is the daughter of Phanuel. She's from the tribe of Asher. She was really old at this point.