 women weren't to be taken seriously and we were told that you know that in those days you had to be sort of chosen by somebody and only two or three people could slip through if they were anointed from on high and a few points along the road people have said to me you know you don't really belong so a conductor you know who's quite a champion of music said to me you know you know you're a novelty and i hope you've got a good pension because you know things won't last