 What do you mean he lost? Well, I mean, I still believe that the Bible teaches sola scriptura. And she was impressed by some of the arguments and whatnot. And he was crestfallen because he thought, my gosh, did we go to the same debate? Did you hear the same thing I heard? But she came away from the debate more convinced than before that her Bible-only view of things was the correct one. So, of course, I didn't like hearing that. That didn't make me feel particularly good. He said, no, but wait, there's more.