 So you remember T.J. Ducklow was the deputy press secretary. He'd been with the Bidens through the thick and thin. I mean, this is not some random staffer. This is a guy who's very close to them personally, to the family, not just to President Biden, but to the first lady. OK, when he gets into that whole tit for tat with Politico and they fire him. Right. When Psaki comes out the next day, she says Ron Klain informed the president that he was being fired.