 The Drew Mariani Show on Relevant Radio. It's 49 minutes past the hour. We're speaking with Kent Lesnoski of the San Damiano College for the Trades. I'm Ed Morrissey of HotAir.com filling in for Drew and taking your calls at 888-914-9149. I really want to get back to this conversation because it's fascinating and Kent is really insightful in here. One of the things that I'd like to discuss is