 They don't have that. Even when they listen, they haven't gotten there, you know, for whatever was going on in their lives. But they need to be there, but they're not going to be there if they don't have you. Well, you're kind. I'm taking to heart what you're saying, Pamela, and of course I agree with you because I'm biased, right? I'm not saying that people like Frederick, I mean, don't love God or love Jesus. I mean, I don't understand this reaction, but I don't want...