 But if you think about it, let's go back to Jesus again. Let's go back to the apostles again. They had a toxic culture in a lot of ways as well. I mean, the Romans really were the ones that determined the modern culture in their age. And it was bad. It was painful. So for us as Catholics, when we look at the culture, yes, let's acknowledge there's some bad things. But let's also think of it in terms of there's an opportunity. There's great opportunity for people who are trapped in that culture right now.