 And what I thought was interesting about all of this, first of all, the guy's completely unhinged in this interview, but it was all done on the phone, and you could tell he was working off talking points. Anyway, cut 15. We're reading from a list of lies. First of all, he was made up, quote, suckers and losers. I was with him. He called Americans in the cemeteries from World War I suckers and losers.