 to speak for that woman to advocate for her and to advocate for her child and i'll just mention your granddaughter's 13 years old she's not too young to sidewalk counsel in front of an abortion clinic i started sidewalk counseling when i was actually 13 years old and it was always intriguing and striking both for me and the women coming in and out because at that time many of them were older than me and they were startled by someone so young speaking to them and challenging them and encouraging them and