 jar him, it doesn't resonate. I mean, you know better than I do because you're dealing with him. So those are some thoughts for what it's worth, Bob. I would say read the books. If you can get him to watch some of Walt Heyer's material, videos and things, that would be helpful. By all means, though, of course, your prayers as his father and your efforts to try to talk sense to him are the most important thing of all. And the prayers of your wife and everyone else.