 So how do you get to 30 minutes or less a day for screen time? That's the ideal. And I'll throw out there, have non-screen days. Maybe it's a whole weekend. Maybe it's multiple afternoons. I don't know. But at first you can put a letter on file at your school and they can be legally bound to not use technology for learning, not use screens. I think there's a balance. I think there's an age where it's appropriate. A lot of skills can be learned, but we know that any person can work an iPhone