 It's going to look uglier before it looks better. That was rice farmer Jim Whitaker and his daughter Jessica Whitaker-Allen. Great River Milling now carries their climate-friendly rice. You can see their full talk at TED.com. When we come back, the future of meat. On the show today, the future of food. I'm Manoush Zomorodi, and you're listening to the TED Radio Hour from NPR. Stay with us.