 no one in their, in their entire life had said to them, your stories are important. Your lives are important. And, and we want to understand that. And so I think that, you know, me just being very honest about my intentions and being completely comfortable being with these folks for, you know, for many, many years opened up a lot of doors for me and people were, were more than willing to, to, to pull me along and to, and to show me as much as they possibly could.