 And because he kept bothering them, and because they wanted a seat at this restaurant, Richard Simmons was able to get on TV in guest spots in Los Angeles. TV people, desperate for ideas, went, oh, well, let's put him on more and more guest spots. He became popular. He became known in Los Angeles. They put him on a local show. Then they put him on a national syndicated show. And his Richard Simmons TV show was on for four years.