 and they got upset. And I said, well, think about homicide. It's to kill a human being. There's many forms of legal homicide, but I don't see how you can say that abortion isn't homicide because technically it is alive. It meets the characteristics of biology to be a life and you are killing it. So therefore it is homicide. And they went ballistic. So John, where do you go with that conversation? Well, you should ask, uh,