 how he took this guy out. And he shouldn't have. Tim Ryan is like a guy who's been in politics forever. If I'm thinking about the right guy, I think it was Tim Ryan. Either way, it would be great to see the two of them debate. It would not be like the fly on Mike Pence's head. Remember that, Carrie? Wasn't that weird? I do remember that, yeah. Remember that one. That would be something. So before we hit the break last hour, I got this ABC News update.