 And I believe Tony Perkins over him. I've known Tony Perkins for a very long time, Marvin. And for him to, and he's a, look, this Tony Perkins is a man who is the, you know, he's not out there. You know, he's not a blowhard. He doesn't bloviate. And for him to put a letter like that out there and make it public, that to me says there's a big problem. Big problem. You betcha there is. And this guy was not being truthful at all.