 There was a place in the gospel where when Jesus walks on the water and he's coming towards the disciples, some of them thought maybe this is a ghost or an apparition, right? So for Thomas, from his perspective, he was thinking, how do I know this was truly the Jesus raised bodily, the same Jesus who suffered and died? I want to see, I want to know, I want to feel the wounds. And then, of course, our Lord appears again.