 And so Norm is wringing his hands over this like for weeks before he has to do it. And what is he going to say to the person? And so he's going to bring him to cheers to the bar in order to buy him a beer and fire him there to at least show him some compassion. So he goes to fire him and he can't even get the words out. He starts crying and sobbing. And so the guy he's going to fire has all this compassion for Norm.