 whatever you perceive in me when I'm on the radio talking about the faith, I think a lot of it is that. And maybe just by extension, all the other strong testing my Catholic faith has been through by atheists, by Calvinists, by Lutherans, by Mormons, by Jehovah's Witnesses, by Baptists. I mean, you name it. I've had to deal with what I guess are the best of the best of their arguments, such as they are anyway.