 to begin with, I think. And Marcia, something else, if you can't find it written up the way it is, Nick will have our podcast up when we sign off the show later today. Give him about an hour to get everything up. If you type in Precious Blood, I don't know, Nick, how you're going to mark it, John Bergsma, Dr. John Bergsma, you can search for the name. You can just go right to this conversation here and share it with somebody else. Send them the link. Maybe you're tuning in right now and you missed part of the conversation about