 How can I replace things in my life to starve out? Like you're saying, it might not necessarily be something intrinsically bad. And if it is, starve it out. But it might be things where you want to grow in your faith. So fill that with something else. There's so many great pieces of content today. Or even just that silence that is so beneficial in a culture that is so noisy. Joining me now is Sarah Swanson.