 essentially you learn editor management techniques. And then all of a sudden, as an editor, I had to learn these reporter management techniques. It's true. One editor told me that his wife had made him get the book How to Talk So Your Kid Will Listen and How to Listen So Your Kid Will Talk, something along those lines. But it was basically to deal with his teenage kids. And he said, didn't really work for my kids at all, but was very helpful in dealing with reporters. LAUGHTER