 And I am sure Joe was dealing with that. And as a human being, I feel for him. But he's the president of the United States of America. Susan Collins is going to join me today at 1 o'clock. She's going to do my podcast and I'll share some clips of it. But that's one of the questions that I'm going to ask her is about this debate and about what we saw and about what official Washington is going to do.