 And I wonder too if there's an element of almost a celebration of passing on versus something that's tragic and sad. Absolutely. A lot of it is a celebration and full of laughter and spending time actually with the body itself, which is something that might be unfamiliar and different from a funeral, how we've conceptualized it here. But even the idea that hospitals and clinics are working with Maori communities to be able to make that happen and make the body accessible and