 That's when things really started changing in my own perspective because I thought, man, I thought we all agreed on these fundamental core principles of freedom and rights. And if we don't agree on that, but if this guy's so bad that he's such an enemy that we shouldn't allow him to talk, I mean, what else might these people be wrong about? What other problems might exist here? And that's for me when a lot of perceptions I had prior to that started changing.