 She had a one in two shot of one percent to get pregnant naturally. So basically, the doctor said it's impossible. You will never naturally conceive a baby. She after rounds of IVF, gave up on IVF. She told she couldn't have children. So Catholic mom, good Catholic mom gives the names of saints for fertility and pregnancy, et cetera, and told her daughter after she's given up after rounds of IVF and the horror that that is.