 And so when we talk about being pro-life, it's important that we're fostering that in other little kids. Even before I had children, when I was pregnant, and just even nieces and nephews, I talked to them about my baby and my tummy, helping to try and support you to understand the baby. And even for me, that's why it was so important to name that baby before she was ever born so that other people, especially little children, could know and see that relationship that was there that humanized and personalized the child.