 Father, you think of back in my Lutheran days as a lay pastor, and one of the folks who was training us was a minister, and she had friends who were Irish Catholic, and she'd visit Ireland and talked about, as we talk of the communion of saints, this Celtic idea that they were really, you know, not a long ways away, unseen, but at arm's length, like very close, as close as an arm's length. And so to picture, and she loved that, and, you know,