 and he talked around hiring people who have never worked in the airline industry because they come into the industry and they think a little bit differently, or they think outside the box and they say, well, you know, why is it done like this? So I think for people in their core business, in terms of their own personal professional development, I think a community of people that, um, you know, maybe it is a little bit of a mix of, of, of industries and of people from different backgrounds to, to, uh,