 I mean, it truly is. I mean, you know, inside there are rats and cockroaches, and on the roof you're out in the open. And, I mean, the only thing you worry about is you see all these carcasses of other trains that derailed, and you kind of wonder about the people who've been on top of those trains. You know, the great thing I took away from Chasing Hope is your optimism, your ability to see the bright side. I mean, a lot of people would say you're just reporting on the worst of humanity, but at the same time you see something else.