 It's particularly interesting if they're outside of the state of grace. He's like, wow, that is an incredible natural skill. That's an incredible natural virtue, even though they might not be in a state of grace. Because it's a little bit like putting ankle weights on or operating in a handicapped position and still being able to get something done. So if we kind of measure watching those results in relationship with what we see from the saints, we can learn a lot. Yeah.