 Ashley Nerona, a Rome correspondent who joins us every Wednesday from the Eternal City. You can listen to her reports on the Relevant Radio app. Just go to Relevant in Rome. We need to take a short break. When we come back, Michael O'Rourke, the founder of StrongCatholicDad.com, will be with us to talk about the significance and the power of suffering in parenthood. Stay with us as Morning Air continues on this Wednesday here on Relevant Radio and the Relevant Radio app.