 So he said, I have to be very careful because if my wife finds out about this, I believe that she would do this. She was that adamantly against the Catholic Church. So I said, okay, well, I don't have to send them if you don't want them. I mean, it's just an offer if you want it. And he said, no, I do want it. I do want to see it. I do want to read the books and whatnot. But I just don't know how to...