 and that you you may make bad decisions because it seems hopeless and you know so i i really um you know i would rather work with the poor any day over the ridge but you know i i just wanted to be you know i see the same two guys every week um i i go to the same place downtown milwaukee to volunteer um walking dogs and and there's one guy in the corner one guy is on the boulevard and they both have signs and almost every single week for the past at least year