 for those preceding 10th centuries. So we don't have to go into that discussion. But the main thing is, I would encourage you to surround him with good, authentic Catholic teaching. If you feel he's old enough to listen to this program, start having him listen to this program every day. You can get him the beginning apologetics books by Jim Burnham and Father Frank Chacon. It's a series of like workbooks that are perfect for a young man like him.