 they really are the foundation of the laws of our society. They call us to a higher standard of living, one that's based on respect and justice and compassion, regardless of your faith, regardless of your persuasion. They're kind of universal. Two things. How do you address somebody like that who says, do you even need them if you're just a good person? And then secondly, maybe this is another important point I want to kind of shine a light on. They are the foundation.