 because the winners of those elections may be harder than ever to hold accountable. NPR's Ron Elving, very good week to talk to you. Thanks so much for being with us. Thank you, Scott. Ukraine has been battling Russian forces for more than two years and is struggling to hold on. NATO holds a summit next week, and Ukrainian leaders say they have been fighting to uphold NATO's ideals and deserve membership in the security alliance. NPR's Joanna Kakisis reports from Kiev.