 But at the same time, it seems like, at least in today's day and age, that there's a tendency to place emphasis on that experience. And so maybe the heart, in a sense, trumps the mind. But I don't know that our, for instance, our scholastic theologians like Thomas and Bonaventure, I don't know that they would necessarily see that there's a distinction there, perhaps just maybe a flow. Yeah, I think so, too. We understand, we recognize very clearly that