 No. Well, I don't think so. I mean, we don't see what doesn't come in. So I think this is just the slowdown that we're seeing now is more normal, not since COVID. But before COVID, we would actually have a season, busy in the fall and winter and not so busy in the summer. And we're kind of like that. It's just dropped off a lot more than ever. So you're seeing a lot more seasonality and a bigger trough.