 I wouldn't. I don't know. You take the fifth on that. You take the fifth on that. Absolutely. I may have family members listening, but it doesn't matter. There's no difference, really. Well, there's no difference. You're absolutely right. And so what many of the NATO members had said at the time, and this was 2017, is that we don't have the money because they were spending money on other things other than their own defense because they knew the United States would step up if they got attacked.