 So if you're calling with questions dealing with salvation, justification, the Catholic view, the Protestant view, Luther and all that, then great. Otherwise, I may get to you. So please just stay on the line as you listen. But I want to make sure that these points come through here. And the one that I was on before the break was to simply say this. As I chewed on this idea of faith and obedience, faith and obedience, how does this work together?