 And I know Tom's birthday was yesterday and so was my husband's yesterday. And I said, we're going to the Eucharistic Congress. It's on a wonderful day. My question to you, Patrick, is we are faith formation lead catechists. And I had one mother who called me devastated that her daughter no longer wanted to do the sign of the cross. And she refused. How old is the daughter? She was 16. And did she say why?