 And at that time, they were even paying people not to work. Literally the opposite of what you should be doing coming out of a pandemic like that. And so what we have is we have a real opportunity to get spending under control. And it's got to be coupled with true economic growth. So if you think about coming into the pandemic, we had the Trump tax cuts and tax reforms. That gave us huge economic growth in comparison, in particular, to all of our allies. That, at the end of the day, by growing the pie...