 in what the religion has taught us, that it's the best way to live together. Yeah, I agree with you, Frank. I guess the exception, and it's not really an exception, but I guess the idea behind it is that there's a universality of morality, right? And I think that's what you're alluding to, where you can be a godless person, you can be an atheistic, agnostic, whatever, a deist even, but let's just say there is no God from the perspective that one has.