 And after some deliberation, I thought, I'll give it a go. I'll give it a shot. So as I was checking in, that's when the rather angsty young man asked what brought me to town. And when I told him I was attending a Catholic academic conference, I just knew he'd have some response to that. But I didn't quite expect what he said. Of all the things, of all the things that were there in front of him that he could have chosen from to bring up about Catholicism, he said this.