 And Jenny, the numbers of climate-focused voters today may still be small compared to other constituencies, but when elections are very close, every vote does make a difference. And of course, the climate emergency is only getting worse. And that is why the Environmental Voter Project is trying to mobilize nearly 5 million environment-first voters they have identified through polling who might not otherwise turn out. So, Living on Earth's Ainsley O'Neill spoke with founder and executive director Nathaniel Stinnett. Let's take a listen.