 Steve, as you know, with just two years in the U.S. Senate, J.D. Vance doesn't have that much of a record in politics. But neither did Donald Trump when he came down the escalator of Trump Tower in 2015 to announce his candidacy. Right. So joining us now to help us unpack what we do know about J.D. Vance when it comes to climate and environment is Dan Garino, an Inside Climate News reporter based in Columbus, Ohio.