 And that was 2007, I think, we had him on. And they wanted me to ask him predetermined questions. And I simply said, I won't do that. And they're like, you won't? I said, well, first of all, if I tell you I'm going to, I'm not going to because I won't remember because I don't think like that. I don't think that way. They wanted to talk about Social Security. And I said, hey, I got a lot of great questions about Social Security. You don't need to give me any. But we didn't do it here.