 Welcome back to The Inner Life. So glad you could join us today. My name is Patrick Connolly. My thanks to Patrick Alog, who is producing the show for us today, and Tim Hine, who is taking your phone calls at 888-914-9149 as we talk about the interplay and interrelationship between faith and reason with our spiritual director, Father Jim Goins. And it's really, Father, it's been really a fascinating discussion. And