 Being a Catholic, being in the church, it came alive, and that was through the Ignatian exercises. I just wanted to share that because it has had a profound impact on how I meditate on Scripture now. It's not just Lectio Divina. It's actually imagining myself there in the Scripture, at the cross, with Mary, facing the cross. I mean, these are all deep, imaginal, beautiful ways of connecting the head and the heart.