 He's nervous about handing the keys over to her as the Democratic Party nominee. So I think if you're going to do this, Democrats, you've got to do it quickly. You don't think you can kind of hunker down, let the Fourth of July just get some more time to lapse between the debate? And then hopefully Donald Trump has to announce his vice presidential candidate or other news breaks that sort of like people sort of, all right, well, he's our guy. But I think this interview that he's going to give with George Stephanopoulos seems like it carries a lot of weight then.