 and we're on the floor of the convention center which has been an unbelievable madhouse all day and now it's getting very quiet because in 25 minutes the procession, the Eucharistic procession is going to begin that will meander through downtown Indianapolis so people are leaving to go get in line they're expecting, they're thinking somewhere around 30,000 people will be part of this procession I have no idea how long it takes 30,000 people