 I think you'd balance a ticket with someone with more moderate credentials. I mean, look, Kamala Harris has better ties to the activist, progressive activist community than Biden. I think there might be some more energy from African-American voters. But she's a turnoff to moderates. She's a turnoff to a lot of the persuadable voters out there. So there would be a tradeoff. And I think she might regret not positioning herself more to the middle of the Democratic Party because she's going to be vulnerable in that persuadable center if she is.