 But when you heard Doug Burgum's response, I'm really, really curious as to how you feel about it. Hugh's in western Pennsylvania. Hey, Hugh, thanks a lot for joining us. How are you? Good morning, Mike. I'm doing good, thanks. Good. What's up? Well, I believe that it was a safe answer politically, but I don't think it's a brave answer. I'm waiting to see somebody brave enough to say, yes, I have strong...