 Wow, I would not have guessed that. Now you'll have to listen to the interview in hour number three to see why I said that. Why would I say that to somebody? It's true, but why would I say it? I don't know why you would say that. Kerry's here. Sam is also here. We appreciate that. Paulo's out. Kurt is alongside. So we've got a lot going on in this hour. We're going to make sure that we get to it. Kerry, I'm going to let you decide.