 So I'm not here, and please don't misunderstand my point, John, I'm not here to bash you and your wife. I have a great sense of empathy for you, and childlessness must be a terrible cross for any couple to have to carry. But it means, nonetheless, that we have to look at the issue itself and say, is this morally permissible, even if the situation is difficult? And the church says, no, it's not. So I'll pause there. I don't know if you have any comments on that, but...