 the, the one who has done the wounding, um, not knowing that they've done the wounding or, or not being sorry for it is, um, that is a huge barrier in terms of the fullness of forgiveness that, um, that we're called to and can make it very, very difficult. Um, I think that the, um, I think that the, uh, and that happens a lot. All right. It, it just, it just happens a lot. People, people hurt each other without, uh,