 And you say you're a reporter, and he says, I spent an hour with him, like in a room full of people. And maybe you did a sit-down interview with him, but I've never heard of you, so I doubt you got a one-hour sit-down with the president. And months later, how many months, Raman Satuta? How many months later? So he met the president of the United States, and months later he met him again. And now we've got to take Raman Satuta's word for it.