 on the forest floor and they inspire his illustrations. So that was a cool one too. Well, that, that leads into my next question is when people say why, maybe it's not always because they want to just stand there and look at the beautiful place. There are different reasons people have a different place, a favorite place, right, Sarah? Exactly. Yeah. That wasn't expecting what, that wasn't what I was expecting him to say, but I knew it must inspire his illustrations in some way, or he wouldn't spend so much time there, but just that he likes to sort of study the,