 It was taped. The interview was taped after a rally in Wisconsin earlier today with President Biden and ABC News. George Stephanopoulos did the interview. And again, according to someone I know who's in a position to know someone who's seen the tape, the person who has seen the tape says it's not going to do Biden any favors. It's over. That's what they said. They look lost. Low, raspy voice. It's pretty much the same feel, I guess. I'm conjecturing now. This is me adding in pretty much the same feel.