 you know, our increasing reliance on natural gas, which of course is an improvement over dirtier forms of power, but isn't exactly the sort of thing that's going to take us to a clean energy future. What's your takeaway from the way he was talking about energy and climate back then? It certainly wasn't drill, baby, drill. No, and it wasn't especially partisan. I would say that the way he was talking about these issues back then are like somebody who has just a basic understanding of the facts about climate change and about the global energy economy.