 in which we stand our ground against the desolation. Rule 6 is a wonderful friend for the journey, too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Talking about St. Ignatius' seven rules, excuse me, 14 rules of discernment, as we are talking with our spiritual director, Fr. Timothy Gallagher, about this and what to do when you're in the times of desolation. That's what we're in the middle of right now, which leads us into Rule 7 then, Father. Would you like to introduce that one to us?