 at that point so who knows once he's in office and then he starts to decline if an inner circle is in charge if kamala is in charge maybe they've been the one that's already tugging him to the left yeah over the past couple it's such a great point because you can see an evolution uh a transition is a good way to look at it too in his position richards in sacramento california richard hi you're on the air dr kengor welcome hi thanks for taking my call um