 And, you know, he told us, you know, just put the morals aside and talk to him about this. It's just not natural, you know, because he's obviously fallen away from the church. It's been years since he's been to mass or anything. And it's just, I don't know what to do because he doesn't really seem to have any interest in listening to our side. I mean, he'll listen, but he's just not going to