 that conversation and it is a total of four minutes long. And so she, she goes on for about three minutes. So I'll, I'll let you listen to the start of this. We don't have three minutes. I know. Well, let's get a taste of it. Let's do that. Okay. About Kathleen now in Rhode Island. Good morning, Kathleen. Hi, thank you for taking my call. You're welcome. It's a very complex and I'll get to the point because I know you're limited. I,