 you know to what extent the merging of these two people into a new family you know what form will that take and that's just that's just life it just happens because you didn't raise those men who would be your your sons-in-law but in my experience that's where i've really become more more clearly able to see the effects of what nancy and i tried to do we tried to do our best didn't always succeed but we tried we tried really hard just as you did