 Well, and then the question becomes, if she does rise to the top of the ticket, what does that do for the Trump fans campaign? New York Times reporting on that issue said they quote Liam Donovan, who's a former NRC aide, saying this being the front runner against another history making candidate would introduce new risks for a campaign hoping to reap historic gains among black voters. So how does the calculus change on our side of the ticket if she does rise to the top?