 One of our children's birth mothers is not a safe person for a child to be around, and so they can't be around her. The other birth mother is not open to a relationship with our child. But they know about their birth mothers. We talk about them. We show them pictures. We speak about them respectfully. And we know there may come a time for one of the children where their birth mother may decide that she wants to have a relationship. And we would love that, and we would welcome that.