 The JFK years when he gave that famous speech to the Houston Ministerial Association. People thought, oh my gosh, he's going to have allegiance to the Pope. And even today, I think there are some people who might even think that. But maybe bring us back. Let's deal with the downside to this so-called Catholic Declaration you had. Charles Carroll got to sign the Declaration of Independence. And what we're now seeing across the century since, across the years, I should say, the decades since,