 an idea and I guess I'm going to think about it if I was sitting with a friend that was going through a difficult time sometimes you're not having a conversation you're just sitting there for kind of moral support or something yeah or Linda did you have did you have any children your presence helps do you have any children I have three children I have seven grandchildren yeah okay do you remember you know when you when you hold your grandchild in your arms are you conversing with them