 You know, both of you kind of being bad at something, learn how to do, you know, starting from ground zero together to try to build a new skill. So a new activity together allows you to see one another in an imperfect state of learning, right? So we're in it together. We're both starting at basically ground zero, and we're going to try to go somewhere, right? So the idea is that, you know, practice being flawed. I mean, you know, messy people, right?