 since uh since he was found guilty in new york and i'm guessing after the debate he did pretty well can you see is there a number for trump since the debate or not uh let me look for that one too so 38 million for biden harris what is trump we don't know the vp yet oh by the way when i have caroline sunshine on an hour number three carrie you're gonna love this question i asked her i said are you guys trolling us are you trolling those guys yesterday yeah oh i'd like to know if they're trolling us i want to hear that are you doing it on purpose