 Yes, they are different from us. But I think what has been so rewarding in the work we've done up until now is that there are these fundamental similarities that make sense both to human experience and the whale experience. And that's where there's going to be really rewarding lessons learned. For me, I'm not driven by the potential of having a conversation with a whale. I'm driven by the idea of learning what is important to whales and what does that mean from a human perspective.