 There are 20-year-olds that are pretty good, too. That's right. And they have a lot of experience, too. They have a lot of experience. Mike, we have a caller from Saco. He wants to talk to you, I'm sure. Stan, welcome to LLB's Talk in Maine. Thank you. Good to be here. Tell me my turn, and I'll put in. It's your turn. You're on the phone with Mike. Okay. All right, Mike. And Ben. Yes.