 So I wanted to interview Jenna Wertham on her time finally also getting nude on a nude beach in Mexico. And so the day before we did the interview, my partner was like, isn't it ridiculous that you're talking to someone about a nude beach and you've never been naked on one? So then he made me drive to San Diego, be naked, to do the show. And you were in New York at the time? I was in L.A.