 Well, yeah, his books, I've read most of them. I mean, and they've been a great help in a lot of the work that I do. And a lot of what I read there, I can translate when I'm working with couples to help couples too. And I can say, you know what, you should read this from Jacques Philippe or read these pages in this book to help you kind of put this trial you're going through into some sort of supernatural perspective.