 uh... baptists say that although the calvin is denied baptism regeneration they believe that in some way a person's change in a certain sense baptist say no is purely an outward ordinance uh... there's one strain of the church of christ that believes that baptism does regenerate but only by a church of christ minister and that baptism by anyone else doesn't regenerate so you see what i'm saying there are a lot of there's a variety of different beliefs