 There was discussion on the call about wanting to have a call with the campaign or the White House. Some discussions about having VP Harris address the governors. There was strong sentiment they needed to hear directly from President Biden. So they're trying to set up some sort of a meeting either at the White House or via Zoom. If I were them, I'd be doing that in person. The White House knows of the request, but they're not commenting. They're not talking to anybody.