 But it was interesting because she was in the middle. She wasn't doing one or the other. So given her background and her own experience, it was interesting to find out, well, what would she do in that situation? I would say don't read too much into that because obviously not everybody is cut out for everything. That's true. But in her case, she was giving her own experience. And it is interesting to see what someone who had that kind of middle ground option to see what she might have chosen if it were different.