 Bureau of Land Management or anything. But those are the ones, those are the people you would meet with the most frequently as President of the United States. And there's Cabinet Secretary saying, I barely ever meet the guy. I barely ever see the guy. It doesn't reflect well on the Cabinet Secretary either, by the way, who took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all threats, foreign and domestic. That they sit there and they go, yeah, the President, he can't do the job.