 One of the things he said in his interview, I'd love to achieve unity if you could achieve unity, if that's possible. There are many good people on the other side, but there are also people who are very divided. Some people actually want open borders and some people don't want open borders. The question is, can those two sides get together? See, he wouldn't have been saying to me, two sides get together at all. He would have said those other people are horrible people that want open borders. He wouldn't have said, can we come together?