 A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade Show. So Dana White was able to give me some quality time, about a half hour, maybe more, the day before his big event at the Prudential in New Jersey. So I asked him about the importance of loyalty and what was it like meeting Joe Rogan, why he picked Joe Rogan, and why they told him to fire Joe Rogan. And he told them, if you fire him, you fire me. So here's more from my interview with Dana White.