 Kamala Harris, you're telling me really that this is a weaker choice than Kamala Harris? I frankly think it's a pretty strong choice on a number of levels. And bombastic? I don't think so. He's fairly quiet in his analysis of what's going on. You may agree or disagree. And I certainly disagree with what he had to say eight years ago, as does he now, by the way. But Jolly went on to say basically Trump wants somebody who's not qualified.