 It is fascinating to me to listen to them and watch how their brains work, because it is a completely different way than your brain works or my brain works. These tech guys are a different species. And it's fascinating for me, coming from a different political point of view, different life experience, to listen to what they have to say. Because it's always good to hear the other side, but also to hear about what they're working on for the future. It's a learning experience.