 He is a populist, but a populist in a way that I think will resonate with those who are looking at the things being rigged against them, that Amazon is too big, that the corporate world... So you're saying he might counter Trump? Well, I mean, in some ways... Let me disagree with you if that's what your premise is. Well, I'm saying in some ways he's like Trump, but he is definitely more of an anti-corporate guy than Trump is. I think Trump...