 and the way he scoops those balls yeah his defense has been extremely good this year and yeah i mean look uh you know he's had some injuries but you know he has been inconsistent over over time but he's one of the i call him the original like the ogs because he was around him and cedric mullins of course those guys have been around with the 100 lost teams and now they've seen the resurgence of this new and improved young team and listen the orioles are are