 I looked at how that debate was handled, and I thought that the moderators didn't help at all by not forcing Trump to actually answer questions. And I think Biden was overprepped to recite answers. And I would say that reciting a bunch of facts to people who don't care about facts is not the most useful thing to do. But he should have taken Trump on on his own ground and just said, look, this is going to be personal and this is going to be nasty. I can play this game, too.