 It's weird because it wasn't all that long ago. And while Joe Biden is still alive, so are other people who are actually there who don't remember seeing little Joe running around. I was a public defender in the Office of Civil Rights. Never exists, doesn't exist. You're in the public defender's office. That's it. You don't have public defenders assigned by crime. You don't have public defenders, at least back then, assigned by the skin color of the defendant.