 Coming up, we'll talk with Ravens backup quarterback Josh Johnson, who is actually six years younger than defensive coordinator Zach Orr. And Johnson, he's had one of the most unique NFL careers around. And I'll ask him also about Lamar Jackson and what he sees about him in the quarterback room. This is James Denensley from ESPN. You're listening to Ravens All Access on WBAL Newsradio 1090, FM 101.5, and the WBAL radio app.