 They're going to try and avoid the topics that would impact Joe, and they're just going to try and stick with the superfluous. Donald Trump will be it'll be a three on one debate. He's certainly aware of it. I think the biggest thing challenge he has is is not to allow them to piss him off because that's what they're going to be. Joe's strategy is going to be to call him a convict a thousand times and I wouldn't react to it.