 This is the problem, Barbara. Listen, I think Terrell has a certain degree of knowledge. I think he listens attentively. He listens to WCBM. He may not like everything or anything that he hears, but he listens to the station, and he should get credit for that. And he does listen to other things, but sometimes I think it might only be half listening. Hold on. Let me make a point here. For instance, in talking about David Stockman,