 uh, uh, experience in the classroom. I don't know how much it says the long time he was a principal and a social studies teacher. So inside of a school, but not in a Baltimore school. And again, it's not an apples to apples comparison when we talk education, especially how, you know, whether it be the charter school system, whether it be Comar, et cetera, things differ from state to state. Um, that actually can't be any more well, uh, illuminated than when you speak about Dr. Bedell, uh,