 He says, on the right, there's no clearer example of the threat to American values than Project 2025. The 900-page proposal from the Heritage Foundation, which is a conservative think tank. And you had over 350 to 400 scholars, conservative scholars, not just Trump employees in the last administration, put together this document. These are true conservatives, unlike Larry Hogan, who wouldn't know how conservative if it fell right in front of his face.