 And yet I'm looking right now at a cow standing on a roof that apparently a human being cannot. I just don't get that. Todd, am I right, though? These are the same people. The same people. You're right, Patty. The same people. And you know what? And I really believe. I'm going to say something. I think that boy was used. I don't think the elevator went all the way to the top of this kid. And they used him. That poor kid got used.