 Well, I mean, I think somebody like, if you go back to what Mike Elias said with his press conference right before the All-Star break and how he felt like Kobe Mayo and Jackson Holiday, he both expects them to make an impact at some point in the second half of the season, maybe at the same time. I think that kind of illustrates how he feels about those two types of players. And if you want a guy like a Tarek Skubal, I think you're probably going to have to have the conversation about