 And the fact that it has reached that level of just political Machiavellianism is the best way that I can describe it. That's scary to me. And if they're willing to sacrifice him like that, what other sacrifices are they willing to make? That's the other part of this that I would put out there. Cindy in Churchville, you're on WBAL. What are your thoughts on how Joe Biden has been spinning his performance at the debate?