 I knew he couldn't get it because that would be so complicated. It would be such an entangled mess. And it was down to those three, J.D. Vance and those other two. And I thought, oh, this guy's going to get it. I better check him out. I found out a little bit. But he's a young guy. He's got a nice family. And we'll have to see how it works out. But I have heard...