 when the shooting occurred. Mike DeFriscia, he was at the rally. It's his footage of the gunman crawling on the top of the building that we've seen now in the video. He shot that with his cell phone camera, and he says, talks about how he spotted the gunman. Kind of took a few steps back to see exactly what was going on, and we seen the shooter at the bottom of the roof trying to kind of army crawl up the roof.