 to join the ticket as the number two spot on the ticket, and they looked at the tea leaves at the time and said, no, I'm not going to do that. There's no way that we can win. After that debate a couple of weeks ago, I am pretty sure that that calculus changed for a lot of these folks. And guess what? This gets into the various folks who are saying that they're going to stick with Biden no matter what, because it demonstrates loyalty to the party overall.