 He worked for General Motors. He got paid for General Motors. His pension was through the UAW through General Motors. But it was not, he does not speak on behalf, he doesn't represent it, I doubt very highly he ever met anybody high-ranking outside of his Fisher body plant on Plymouth Road in Livonia, Michigan. Not like, you know, the CEO was coming down, going, can we get Doug down here? We need to have a conversation. We're not really sure what we're going to do here, and we need his input. No. No.