 But they were both in the booth? They were both in the booth. I know Terry had experience. Howie's never been in the booth. Howie had never been in the booth before. Were they good? It was great. We did a couple of rehearsals in the prior weeks. Howie had only done studios, so he had to learn the equipment. He had to learn what the talkback button is, the cough button. And they were tremendous. This was back in 2007. It was Notre Dame LSU. Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn were the quarterbacks. It was a sugar bowl.