 Now it's the enemy. And now they want you to get rid of it. And they say, well, we really don't want to do that. We're not going to force you to get rid of it. Remember? Yes, they really do want you to get rid of it. And they have for quite some time. Richard Trumka, who was on that board, said, no, we're not trying to force you to go to, you know.