 About 10 minutes. Really? I'm walking, but, I mean, I've never met him. Thank goodness. He does deserve, we don't have a death penalty, but he would deserve a death penalty if he's found guilty, which hopefully he is. But I will say one thing. I am pro-police, but I do think there's a deep cover-up, okay? I believe what Mayor Giuliani has been saying, and I believe what Curtis has been saying. There's a lot, listen, there's good and bad in every profession.