 They have not been in this situation before. Well, we have a date, everybody. We have a date that's been agreed to for the first debate between Kamala Harris and J.D. Vance. August the 12th, Brian, according to both campaigns, there's been agreement reached that they will be on CBS with the first vice presidential debate. I have a feeling people are going to watch this one. This is not going to be necessarily a yawner. They want to kind of see where these two are. Hold on. When is the date?