 knowledge absolutely that they uh gain through prison although that's very restrictive right now it should be here's what it would be frank how about there's there's ten thousand to one out people on the outside who have made their community better because they didn't go to prison remember that person went to prison frank it's not because they made their community better but because they did something wrong to hurt their community so you know all right that's what i'm talking about i'm leaving i'm going out the horse farm i'm gonna ride my horse