 And Gina's going to talk to us also. Well, anyhow, I have people here because I want to talk about some things about the fire service. So I asked them to come in, and we're going to get a live update what's going on in the fire service. You only get to hear about the union and the contracts and things like that. But, Mark, a little history here first, if you don't mind. How long have you been in the fire service?