 And there's still going to be debate. There's going to be major differences. J.D. Vance is someone who I still don't know how I feel. It's very complicated. I like the fact that there are some components of J.D. Vance that I like and respect. I like that I have a strong affinity with him. I think that he's young and so he brings a level of a new energy to the table. But there are some policy issues specifically on his view of property rights and things like that. I don't know how I feel about that, but I don't know. I'm interested.