 or if you start fights that you're going to be famous to a small group of people, that those types of environments actually foster worse behavior. And so what I've been encouraged about is often at the state and local level, public leaders are behaving quite well. It's when people think that they're behaving for a camera or they're trying to become famous. Often in Washington, D.C., they start acting like they just want to be famous and they want to beat up their enemies, and they don't show the virtues that I'm looking for.