 and to really look at the differences and say, okay, here's where I agree, here's where I disagree. I like this man's temperament. I like this other man's judgment, what have you. But get involved, get informed. I would love to see more of that. I'd like to see us figure out ways of disagreeing more civilly. I love some of these governors around the country who started this campaign about disagreeing civilly. We've got to learn how to disagree. The disagreements are inevitable in democracy. I actually think they're helpful.