 you went all the way through your residency and what were you discovering that disillusioned you along the way yeah four years stanford medical school four and a half years i've had an ex-surgery residency i'm nine years into training and i look around me and i realize you know i've kind of been in this tunnel vision like this is the answer conventional medicine is the answer but i look around me at the trends i'm i'm you know cutting into people all day long and americans are getting sicker every year