 I love talking to you, and I think one of the bigger reasons I enjoy talking to you when we get together to talk is we do think alike where we're not at that 101 stage of fighting and arguing. Is it real? Is it not real? We want the proof of it. What do you got? And you got to convince me. It's about the experiences themselves, and then what can we learn from those, and how do they match up with whatever someone else has said to you.