 what Biden really is. Oh, boy, there's still a lot to get to. We'll break down. My friend Cheryl Atkinson will be joining us, investigative journalist, author. She's got a new book coming out called Follow the Science. We'll talk to her about that. I'm Leland Conway in for Joe Paggs on The Joe Paggs Show. Don't be an A-Dub. Stay with The Joe Paggs Show.