 There's a lot of different things that you can learn just from body language or just the casual talk that you do before and after interviews. And George Stephanopoulos, right after this interview, says he doesn't think he can serve another four years. Now, again, it's nothing like it's earth shattering. I mean, who does think he's going to serve another four years? And this is another part of the problem for Democrats is you're voting for Joe Biden. But if you're voting for Joe Biden, you're really voting for Kamala Harris at one point.