 Tim couldn't hang with us either. All right. 410-WCB-680. If you'd like to join us, be patient. We'll get to you as quickly as we can on this kind of thing, all right? Jen Psaki, member of Circleback Psaki, she used to be the press secretary for Joe Biden. She has now, of course, gone off to the dark side. But even Jen was not all that impressed with Joe Biden's performance either at the debate or in his interview with George Snuffleupagus the other day.