 basketball for probably 50 years, hockey for 30. The National Game and the Knicks. Knicks and then National Games. He did Rangers radio for a long time, 30 years. He did NFL football with NBC and then CBS later on. He did boxing on NBC. He hosted baseball pregame shows. So that's what I grew up around, and I was lucky enough in high school, Cox Cable of Great Neck, which is a neighboring town, happened to come to my school in 10th grade to film a girls' basketball game.