 What happened when Ronald McDaniels was hired to be a consultant or to be a regular on NBC? And they pulled their carpet back. They freaked out. Yep. The employees. Well, they put a mutiny. It was a mutiny. Right. And then here again, the bigwigs make a decision, and what happens? There's a mutiny. People are fired up about it. Joe goes public. A poor Willie Geist, like I said, is sitting there. He's not saying a word, but yet Morning Joe's talking to him like, you understand what I'm saying, Willie, right? Willie's like, please, let me out.