 What's the next right thing to do? So I had a conversation with a couple that are small business owners, and they're thinking about retiring or selling, and they have some real estate, they have a business and all that, and they're trying to figure out what to do first. And I said, well, do you really want to retire? And they're like, not really, but we're not sure if we can. I said, well, one of the things is we can imagine us being retired now. What do you need to live off of? And the reality with small business, the business might pay for a lot of things.