 After 8 p.m. I'm not going to comment on the private conversations that we have with the president, but I do know this. It was a very honest conversation. The governors were very honest and very forthright about the things that we were saying, and the president was very forthright about he knows that we need to be able to, he needs to be able to have an adjustment on the way we're doing the campaign because the truth is he is behind right now. At 12.04, traffic and weather are next here on WBAL Newsradio 1090 and FM 101.5.