 Yes, but I mean, he wasn't into politics. He was not political before because he had a foundation. But the thing is, right now, I think that he is situated in a way that few other governors are to be able to, if he were, if he were to consider doing something national, jump right into it. Like a lot of other governors take a little bit of time. I'm not sure how quickly Gretchen Whitmer gets into a presidential mode, you know, from Michigan. Absolutely.