 But nevertheless, there are other instances that are out there. Let's go to Bernie in Catonsville. Good morning, Bernie. Welcome to WCBM. Professor Langer, for taking my call. Hey, of course. I tell you, I'm right there with Barbara. She's a great lady. I just love her. Anyway, the point that I'm getting at is, in my day, and I'm sure in Barbara's day, too,