 And I said then, I'd been to an event in, I think it was 2006, I was invited. There were a group of 24 of us, 24, eight conservatives, eight progressives, and eight people supposedly in the middle. And among the folks who were there were folks like Grover Norquist, who we're going to have on tomorrow, by the way, my good buddy Grover Norquist from American Strategy Reform, and Al Gore.