 So the answer is we didn't get on the call earlier. We were all on the call with her about three hours before they came on, gave a very quick briefing and then took five questions and said, OK, we're done. We're not taking more questions. And so when we found out that she was in the arena, we went and found our way with myself, Marsha Blackburn, Kevin Kramer and John Barrasso and went to her and her suite there in the arena and said, we have a lot more questions for you, starting with.