 But it is bizarre. I've used the Journey thing with him like three times. And it works every time. It's like Colt 45. It works every time. Because it puts him in such a good mood. But he lights up if you talk to him about it in person. If you know what Mike Lee looks like, he kind of looks like a Cabbage Patch doll. And it's weird to see a Cabbage Patch doll get excited over the prospect of anything. You go to this Mormon guy, you think square.