 push him out, as some voters may suspect that there might be. It just doesn't exist. He's got the delegates. He's got it locked up. And so there is this interesting dichotomy in that, yes, Democrats want to perhaps prevent that messiness at the convention, but also they have no idea whether or not it's going to even happen because it all hinges on, really, the president and his family and the decisions that they make here. ABC's Jay O'Brien. Thanks, Jay, for joining us here on WBAL. Thank you so much.