 It was trying to get that moderate, the Nikki Haley voter in, someone who was a little bit worried that, all right, if we have another situation like we had the last time, I'm going to have Mike Pence. Am I going to believe in this person? And I don't know if they will with J.D. And J.D. Vance is on the record in the ABC This Week interview, T.J. and Brian, saying that if he were sitting in Mike Pence's position, he would not accept those. Once again, that's.