 That shows you the difference in someone that's coherent, that is with it, that is not stammering and stuttering, that is able to give you depth in his voice. You can hear the difference in the two. And he's older. So age is not just the issue of a number. It's the mileage. It's the mileage. It would have taken Joe Biden two minutes to say what Bernie Sanders said in 20 without a script, by the way.