 such a lovely lady, and the passion that James Irwin had. Oh, he was obsessed with trying to find the Ark. Exactly. You could feel it in his wife when we interviewed her, that craving, that hunger to find that Ark. I think he was more excited to find the Ark and look for it than when he went on the moon in 1971. Absolutely. His wife had told me that. His son-in-law, who went on digs with him and met with his son-in-law, agreed that he...