 you know, said that quote to, uh, little known is, uh, the founder of quantum mechanics, Max Born, who was a strong believer in probability. And recently I've been, uh, really lucky to get to know Max Born's grandson, who's a musician who also has the same name, uh, Max Born. He's the, he's a grandson, but took on, you know, was given the same name who, um, very interesting person. Actually, uh,