 appear similarly to the way he did. Like that. I'm a spokesman. And you're in a lot of meetings with him. I am. The last thing I'm going to do is sit here and talk about every meeting I've had with the president. What I can tell you is... Yeah, what's that? What I saw in that debate is not reflective of the man and the leader and the commander-in-chief that I have spent many, many hours with over the last four years in terms of the...