 No, I think you're right. There's going back maybe a year and a half ago. There is this big write up about this event where the Biden campaign was with former Obama advisers to try to convince them he was going to win. It was some event. It was a commemoration of Obama's presidency. And they all expressed trepidation. They've had a long fear that he can't win. I've got to imagine that comes from talking with their former principal, President Obama.