 Well, again, your pastor needs to know you. Because then your pastor becomes God. You're following this one pastor. 10,000, 30,000, 50,000 people are following this one pastor. Aren't there other pastors, other leaders that can be there and that can minister to you? And those multi-campus things where they video pipe it in. If your church has more than one campus, it's probably another red flag, right? It's very celebrity.