 And that was one of the reasons that I believe, this is only my speculation, that they didn't want to delve into it. I thought it was very interesting what he said there because it goes hand in hand with what we've heard from other people. 800-848-9222 if you want to comment. 800-848-9222. So I'll also just share with you, and I'm going to get back to your calls in a minute.