 So you want to be smart about the first place that you go to draw down money. So when we look at it, Prashant and I usually do it in this order if you're over 59 and a half. The first place you want to start drawing money down are those traditional IRA accounts, traditional 401ks, because that's where you're going to limit your tax liability for the long term from a time horizon perspective. Then you go to the non-retirement accounts and then Roths or LASs.