 many years with NBC and I'm involved in the Olympics for NBC. Um, I've never really worked for ESPN. I did two hockey games for them back in the, back in the, uh, mid 1990s. But, and it's not only ESPN, Fox, FS1 has a lot of these similar shows with, with the hot takes. And I guess people are watching, right? If they're getting the ratings and paying some of these hosts, you know, we've seen some of the numbers recently, but,