 And trying to do it himself without as much enthusiasm is difficult. I don't think the race is over, Joe or not, President Biden or not. I don't think it's over. I think we still have a long way to go. But I think we have to have an honest conversation. And these are the conversations that Nancy Pelosi's having, that Hakeem Jeffries is having, that Chuck Schumer is having, that Clyburn in South Carolina is having.