 Again, Biden has grown government beyond control. Obama grew government way beyond control. Trump was so caught up with trying to rebuild the military and and to fight off a pandemic. He didn't have a lot of time to slash government. But again, as conservatives, as libertarians, et cetera, the best government is a limited government. And that's what Project 2025 does. All the scare and fear mongering. We'll get to that in just a second. We'll hear what he has to say about Project 2025.