 He is, A, a businessman, very successful in his own right, and, you know, he's a showman and an entertainer. You know, when you go to his, it's like you get to get... If you're a real estate developer, that's going to be what you're given. You get the passion, you get the stand-up comedy, you get the going after the people that are ruining this country. I mean, it's a life-changing experience for many people that I've gone, that I've talked to.