 than he truly is. And that the effect of that, it's almost like meeting an elderly Hollywood star that's had 30 facial surgeries, right? Like you look at him and you're like, from a distance on a TV camera, you think it still looks like the same person. Up close, you see, whoa, that's not right. Something happened there. That's not their normal face, right? It's kind of what she's talking about. And it's just part of that whole process to try to cover up