 partner with the Tidemore Group, worked for the state of Maryland as an auditor for 20 years. Once again, if I look at that, it's a diverse array of experience. University of Maryland, I'm sorry, University of Baltimore, Master's in Public Administration, and University of Baltimore, Bachelor of Arts in Jurisprudence. So again, a legal background, a diverse background per se, but not necessarily tied directly into the classroom. So how does that jive with what