 investment-grade preferreds over high-yield preferreds, U.S. Treasuries more so because you're just not getting paid enough to take on huge credit risk, at least at this stage of the game. Now, if the high-yield markets still represent some value, though, because if the economy is not going into a hard recession, soft recession, worst-case scenario, let's say, and I think that's of the market's belief that no recession or soft landing