 But I was four or five years old, and I remember my parents gave me a tape recorder for my birthday, a toy tape recorder. And I started setting up my room like a studio. I had the desk and then the bed in the middle and the TV on the other side. And I would call games, and I would watch and listen to the games. He was working, and my uncles and other announcers. We didn't have cable TV until I was about 17, so I was a big radio listener. And I would listen to hockey, basketball, baseball, football, basketball.