 He gave me no indication in terms of what that was going to look like. All he was asking was, will you lay down what you said you want to be with your life and do with your life, and will you accept my call in your life to go into the ministry? Now, that was not a desire for me because my dad was in the ministry, and I saw the pain, the challenges, the sacrifices that went along with my dad, the pressures that went along with ministry. And so it wasn't a very attractive thing. It wasn't like being a pastor is awesome. No, it was like being a pastor was the last thing I wanted to do. Okay.