 And I'd like to throw out there, too, that we do know from the advisors of Vice President Kamala Harris that she has begun preparing for a vice presidential debate even before Vance was named tonight. So that is something we do know. However, as far as a debate goes, something we typically do see between the VPs, that has not been said yet. And it's still in question if one will happen. We'll be sure to keep you posted. Live tonight, Tori Orgate, WBAL-TV 11 News.