 And he's a former libertarian. Not former libertarian, I shouldn't say, but he was inspired or galvanized to enter politics more through the Ron Paul contingent. So he's like one of the people who are now trying to acclimate or habituate themselves into the mainstream of the Republican Party, which sometimes is appealing to libertarians, other times not so much. But there's interesting different colloquial pressures or factors that you encounter when you're at something like this.