 And writing that book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was criticized by some folks, but both the book and the movie really did at least shine a spotlight on Americans that too often are forgotten about by big media. But he also understands Ivy League America. As an Ivy League graduate, as a veteran, I think he brings a perspective. And as somebody that's not in their 70s or 80s, he brings a perspective to this race that we really haven't had.