 tells me that he's there to see Joe Biden. I believe that. And see, once again, John, I don't have any proof of it, but I believe that Dr. Brian, I believe Dr. Kevin Kennard was there to see the president of the United States, not anybody else, not not other staffers. And I don't know that, John, but I'm saying I believe that based on what I see now. They can come out and tell me something different at the podium. But until that happens, John, I believe exactly what you're saying.