 But, all right, why don't Democrats want to get involved with charter schools, especially if the teachers are going to be benefiting the same way from charter schools? Well, before we get to that big picture, which is a good question, I'm not going to get to it in a minute. I want to ask the question that he raises in his commentary, that being Calvin Buzzy Heddleman. Why didn't Kerwin want to deal with it?