 I've known Tony Perkins for a very long time, Marvin, and for him to, and he's a, look, this, Tony Perkins is a man who is the, you know, he's not out there, you know, he's not a blowhard, he doesn't bloviate, and for him to put a letter like that out there and make it public, that to me says there's a big problem. Big problem. You betcha there is. And this guy was not being truthful at all. And in fact, when you mentioned it,