 was was one of the participants in the idea was to have a uh... a a conversation about trans partisan ism you know issues that might transcend party politics uh... and and it was it was a a lot of naval gazing that was that was done there and and you know but you know it's funny because the that was two thousand six three years later we have the tea party movement and i i wound up saying you know that that if folks were looking for a trans partisan movement