 He's got a real interesting way about him. But this O'Keefe case, there were a couple of things that they talked about in depth on Howie Carr's show. There was an anonymous tip in the very early, early stage of this initial investigation that redirected the whole, it exonerated people, redirected the whole case, and then picked up that chick as a suspect. And it was an anonymous tip that turned that whole case sideways.