 You know, the Teamsters and the union members, he realizes it's the management, the upper echelon that, you know, often waste the dues that they pay. And I think an excellent example of that was when he was in court up in New York and he went to one of the job sites in the morning and visited with all the construction and union workers. Yeah, he's no dummy. That's why a lot of people like him. All right, we got to go. Thank you, Chris. We'll talk to you next hour. All right, thanks, guys. And 657 at WFMD.