 well very similar to to coach williams first of all i want to know who they are as men um i want them to tell me about their family um and maybe you know if they got kids talk to me about their kids how are you as a father you know what where do you stand there and um you know i'm looking for somebody who who matches a similar worldview to me in a similar uh a way of coaching because we have enough coaches out there what we need more of is leaders we need