 In that case, I would recommend a do-it-yourself kit. It's very simple, very straightforward. I'm not a fan of the snap traps or glue boards for many different reasons, but you're asking for my opinion. That's what I would do. I would tell them it doesn't matter if you guys see the droppings or not. If you get a black light in there, you'll probably see the urine up against the wall that he's using. Yeah, well, that's what I wondered. Maybe the droppings are stuck down in the carpet or something because, I mean...