 That's what I don't understand what they're doing. It's like trying to convince people that I'm in great shape and then put me in a place with a bunch of cheeseburgers and dive into those. Every time he talks, it's a new disaster. So, in other words, the assessment of somebody in your position in the Biden campaign is they need more Joe Biden. And it's the craziest conclusion ever. There was no pressure on him even to do the Lester Holtz interview after the assassination. I mean, no one would have said, why is he getting out of the Lester Holtz interview? It's like...