 I think he did great. Well, actually, that was a man against man when he went up against Tim Kaine in 2016. So, yeah, I get what you're getting at here. The other part of it is, right, is if you are a smart, this is the double standard that I hate, if you are a smart, aggressive woman, all too frequently people will say that you're shrill. I'm bothered by that. I mean, there's a way to come off. Like, I thought, well...