 It is a very, it is not what you expect. Is it disheartening? It's disheartening. But one thing that's interesting is like Pat Tillman, his family, they must not be on the board anymore. And we had the same experience. Once we were getting bigger, we had different people coming on board and they then wanted to push us out, the founders. And so that's what I think probably ended up happening with this particular event.