 therapy. And all of a sudden, I worked for about a half hour, an hour. There was no break. It was a little long. Finally, he says, hey, when do you take a break here? Everybody looked at me like I'm nuts, saying this to Phil. I'm looking at Phil, when do we take a break here? He says, when I'm in New York. Kenny Brell never asked for time. I said, oh, you're starting that New York shit. That's all. You were his friend for life then, yeah.