 It may not be the case if it's Kamala. I saw Kamala on CNN the night of the debate. I was watching back the coverage to see what they were saying, and all of them were like, oh, my God, this guy's got to step down immediately. And Kamala comes on and does an interview. Was it good? No, it was not good. Was it 1,000 times better than what Joe Biden did on stage? Yes. And if you're taking away their biggest liability in the polls, which is his age,