 And we're back with our last half hour of the show today. Sandra McQuain, Nathan Martin. And joining us on the phone is our state treasurer, John Fleming. Treasurer Fleming, welcome to Talk Back. Well, good morning, Sandra and Nathan. It's a pleasure indeed to be with you today. Well, thank you for coming in. And we're excited to hear sort of a firsthand account of what's it been like so far for you at the convention this week.