 So I went down there, not knowing what a Spec 4 was, and the colonel interviewed me and asked me a lot of questions on surveying and everything else. And he said, well, I'll tell you what. He says, I'm going to let you come in as in Spec 5. And he started writing this down, and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. He said, what? And I says, the sergeant said I could be a Spec 4. And he laughed because I thought I was getting hosed, you know. And he said, no, he said, trust me, kid, this is better.