 And he told me he's got a daughter. They go to Texas all the time. He's got one. They got a kid still there, too, but they got one in Texas. And they said, man, they love it over there. And he said, eventually, he said, we're going to probably move because my job can transfer pretty easy. And I thought, this is a guy that was born and bred right here. I mean, he's raised right here. And yet, he's thinking about leaving. I just...