 they had such, I mean everyone I talked to had a wonderful memory. So he was just a, he was just very loved by everyone who knew him and that was very special for me to hear. Uh-huh. Did you get a chance to talk to his widow Billie Jean? She's still living in Shreveport. Did you have a chance to talk to her? I did not. The daughters are very protective of her and I respect that. I mean she's