 No, it's clear. He's like, he doesn't even know. And then Lester tries to bail him out. He does, yes. He corrects him. Yes. Her? I'm here to help, Joe. Have you heard from her publicly? Publicly? I've sat down in a situation downstairs. Publicly? Has she gone out in front of the public to speak? Isn't that what Lester's saying? Yeah. Or have you heard from her directly? Yeah, I mean...