 To rebuild that trust. And I want to get your take on it. Daniel Erspommer, he is the president of the Pelican Institute for Public Policy. And we'd love to talk to Daniel because he's right in there in the fray fighting the good fight for us. We'll be right back with Daniel Erspommer. Don't go away. I think it's time we stop. Children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going on.