 once they're born that's on them okay but we should be involved in maybe allowing babies to live it's a crazy position it is it's nutty it's it's true it is and i mean this sincerely it is extreme because i mean you want to call me uh and pat you'd be on this board bandwagon as well a pro-life extremist it's probably a fair description because our opinion is not widely held for whatever reason it's not that's true