 I think can be the subject of some criticism and some legitimate question as to where, when you look at where he's traveled the last 10 years, where will he be 10 years going forward? I don't think that's an unreasonable question for people to ask. But what I go back to is his profound intellect, and he's got a very, very effective communication style. Some of the things he has posited publicly have been rather harsh, but again, my sense is