 And I was a bystander. And the president, then president, was asked, what do you think? He said, they're very fine people on both sides. I find people on both sides. No excuse. Zero. OK, you can go to Snopes and look this up. But I urge you to do that. But why take the time to do that when I can just present you with the actual audio of what Trump said in 2017? Listen.