 Good stuff. We're talking to Dr. Leo Rookby, and you can get a hold of him or at least find out more of his information. You can contact him there as well, Rookby.com. That's R-U-I-C-K-B-I-E.com. And you can read his essay at BigelowInstitute.org. Good stuff. And he's going to stay with us another segment here. We are in the middle of open lines, and it's really interesting.