 So, no, I'm not coming at it from religion, but I'm saying that the religious lore can give us insights into this phenomenon. And at the same time, I'm totally open. You know, David Grush, the military intelligence official who in the past year has come forward. I've got to jump in. Pardon the intrusion. We're approaching the top of the hour. I want to get back to David Grush when we come back.