 But when an organized crime, the ambiental crime family is an organized crime. It's one of the five families in the state of New York. You're constantly competing against one another. So one gang had to outdo the other gang. When I was a kid, that's just how it was. We had to be the toughest gang. We had to get our name out there, FNR. Matter of fact, we had a slogan that somebody came up with, FNR, that it all never ran and never will.