 I didn't know much about Michael Phelps, and I'm not a big swimming fan. Probably the only famous swimmer I could name was the same one you could name if you're my age, and that's Mark Spitz. And I didn't know how many gold medals he had won. I'd heard it before. He had that Tom Selleck mustache, and he was a hell of a swimmer, and that's about all I could tell you.