 in between but it's not like you got to get out the sander it's a sanding sponge that they put in there so you're just kind of knocking that down a little bit and on the spreadstone there's actually some mineral in there which will add a little bling to it so i would say light sanding with the sanding sponge is all you're going to need and again if you go on their website they got some great videos on the whole application process