 When I was interviewing him, I said, Carlos, do you hunt? And he said, no, I don't hunt oarfish. He said, I never have. I said, do you have objections to it? Obviously, I didn't think he did. And he said, no. He said, you just have to work too hard and you have to get up too early. He said, I just can't be bothered with either one of those things.