 explosion in employees and government, the job numbers in the United States would be so bad it would be unreal. And Kennedy was pointing it out. And, of course, the Fed guy couldn't even argue the point because Kennedy's sitting there with all the stats. And it's just they look at those stats and see one thing, and Kennedy's reading them and saying, man, we're fixing to fall off a cliff if y'all don't do something with this spending and how much it's going to increase in the next 10 years.