 You know, a white man, because I seen the white man of Jesus, you know, on the picture. And I seen white Santa Claus with his red suit. But for some reason, I thought they was together. So when I thought, when I knew Santa Claus wasn't real, I thought, well, God ain't real either. So at that age, around nine or ten, I didn't believe in God because I knew Santa Claus wasn't real. And I thought they was hooked up together.