 Very conservative. And in that sense, Harvard is very conservative. And they're really not the bastion of creativity and innovation as much as they are the defense of the orthodoxy. And they have a prestige to defend. And, you know, the harder they come, the higher they come, the taller they fall. The taller they come, the harder they fall. That's right. What about Emory? Harvard is a little like that. What about Emory? Have you run into any of that? I've run into no problems with Emory. I don't know how much of it is because of Emory's longstanding commitment to