 we'll call it the Reagan conservatives, Reaganites in the Republican Party, who see the ideal. I mean, Trump's been a good, but the ideal conservative leadership came from the Reagan era. And then you've got the populist wing of the party, which has been on the rise. It started to rise up during the Trump years. It wasn't very loud at first. It wasn't very powerful at first. But then you got guys like J.D. Vance,