 hanging out with them a little bit more and more. Matter of fact, I would sneak out of my house at nighttime just to go to one of the clubs and hang out and make a couple of dollars. So at the age of 17 years old, I started hanging out in Queens. And one of the gentlemen that I started hanging out with became my friend. Vince Fong was one of the big shots in the neighborhood in the Gambino Clank family.