 She wins. You can't win no matter who you talk to. I just, look, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on one thing. That is, let's see what happens with change. I mean, if you gave money to Gumbo Pack, that's, I mean, I'm just, this is the records I'm reading right here. This is the contribution. He said neither him or his firm gave to Gumbo Pack.