 I mean, and said, you know, one time he was passed over. He knew it because he had friends in HR. You know, I've been in the company 11 years now, so I have friends in HR, and I have friends in the divisions, and they're like, look, nobody else is going to tell you this, Mike, but they're not considering any white mouse for a shot. They're just not. It's just the way it is.