 there would be three people on the board and they would ask questions of these three people. And one of them actually was the person that they were pretending to be. And, uh, you know, they would be a famous, um, you know, astronaut or something where they were, their, their image was not known to them at the time. It's not a time of social media where you had everybody palm of your hand, but at the end of the program, um,