 Because that will give you some publicity, and people might go, oh, I didn't know that about that person. I think I'll vote for that person. But if you're ahead, you don't want to debate because all it can do is have people go, I'm not sure about that person. I'm not going to vote for him. So Joe was slipping on the polls, and they said, let's have a debate. Called up CNN. CNN said, great, let's do it.