 how they can interpret laws passed by Congress. And the conservatives in the court have been wanting to get away with Chevron deference because it gives too much power to the executive branch and takes away power from the legislative branch. Let's see. It looks like Chevron is officially overturned. We'll get into that in a little bit because it's an interesting breakdown there. But let's go back to the debate right now. We've got Debbie and Houghton on the line.