 And it's certainly the way I would go. All right, the phone number, if you'd like to join us, do so. It's 800-823-8255. We've still got plenty of time to take your calls. We've got a good hour and 15 minutes, so go ahead and grab a line. No more guests, just you and me. Liz, you'll be up first. We'll take a break and come back and talk with Liz. You're at home with Gary Sullivan. Help for your home is just a click away at GarySullivanOnline.com. This is At Home with Gary Sullivan.