 So I think that might have triggered something else. But he's been doing this for a very long time. He's been planning this for a very long time. Well, I was curious that, let's say there's 30 years ago, he came to you and says, I think we need to put away money and take care of them. And you said no, and then he did it on his own. No, no, no, that didn't happen. It was just recently. I knew that we had helped them a lot.