 and right next to the glaciers and the frozen ground. Permanent frost is right there, about two feet down. So you can just picture an elephant wandering around and flipping into some sludge and getting frozen rather quickly, even with the buttercups in his stomach. It doesn't mean he lived in a temperate climate. And if he did, why did he need all the hair? Why did you have the woolly rhinoceroses and all this stuff? So, yeah, Sandberg, or Ivan Sanderson, and...