 She said, initially, being the Democrats and the women that we are for the most part, we in this group are trying to find every single possible way to include trans-identified men who identify as women for women's sports. And the more we try to find a way to mitigate this advantage, the more we figured it's not possible. This isn't possible to do it in a fair way. And here we are in a much different position than we were several years ago when we were trying to figure it out.