 And all evidence points to him being the big guy. So I wouldn't back off. And I hope that he doesn't. 888-941-PAGS, 888-941-7247, JoePags.com. Phone calls have been rolling in like crazy. And I definitely want to take what you have to say about it as well. Let me go back to some of these surrogates for Trump or for Biden. And what they're saying just doesn't make sense to me. I want it to, but it doesn't. And you can sort of see where they're going tonight.