 always just enjoy having conversations with him and getting to know him as a human because he's so where his feet are and he's happy to talk to people just human to human not football related so I didn't get to talk to him as much as I typically like to during that media week yesterday we were both kind of going in different directions and then peeling out to the airport for me before he was kind of done making his rounds but I always enjoy hearing from him and I thought I thought he he