 Hard to believe. Well, I tell you, sometimes reading the obituaries just is a gut punch, Al. This has happened to me before, not very often, but Ticket McGowan, who was Elizabeth Ann, was her real name. I didn't know that. I honestly didn't know that her name was anything other than Ticket, although I assume that was not her real name, until her husband, a friend of mine, Phil McGowan, died not too long ago.