 We have like $5,000. So you both have recognized that there's a problem. What we're having an alignment problem on is how to solve the problem. Is that right? She wants to save her way through it. You want to get out of debt. That's correct. But she recognizes there's a problem. She recognizes your situation sucks, right? Yes. Okay. That's a good step. Well, no, she doesn't. She thinks we're doing okay because we finally bought a house. We have...