 But that's what it always comes down to, because, you know, the teams that have won it have not necessarily been guys who were the biggest stars in college or even the NBA. It's guys who just never stop playing basketball, because, I mean, most of these guys are what's really college time. Is he mid late 20s now? Right. He might be 30, 30, 30. We had a zoom with him last week. He had some white hair in there. It's a little hard to see.