 And, and, and while that's the goal, you're working yourself out of business. So, um, I just thought, you know what? I think, I think I could, I think I could speak. And, um, I started my speaking business at, um, really late summer, 2008, which was in some respects, the worst time and in other respects, the best time to start a speaking business because all the conferences got canceled with this huge recession. And, um,