 I mean, we got to ask the question, though. Are there three Mark Popes? How is he doing all this stuff? How is he on planes to recruit? He's at events locally where you are. I just don't know how he's doing it. It feels like literally from the moment he walked off that bus at the introductory press conference, he has not had a moment to himself. I mean, he is always going. And I think to find out that he's also doing stuff behind the scenes like this,