 Anyway, but his orientation is this weekend, which I'm attending with him. So Dr. Duke will be in. And, of course, Steve Schroeder filled in on Friday. And I understand Shannon was a part of the whole deal, too. So that's always good to hear. I didn't know whether Shannon would be there or not. And I thank both of them very much. And, in fact, I had to reach out to Shannon directly because I only learned later that she was part.