 where there's a famous story where he goes and Spencer comes in and pitches his rifle. And this rifle, instead of having to load it from the barrel, you actually have a seven cartridge or seven shell cartridge that you can jam into the butt of the stock. This is a modern way of thinking as far as guns work. So Lincoln is intrigued by this idea, and he takes one of these and goes out with Spencer into what's now the Ellipse.