 want to give you one word answers, or whatever it is. I'll never forget, there was a morning when we had, I was doing some interviews, I was going to, needed to do an interview for something that day, and she was passing, she was out in her car, she said, just driving near here, I think, and she heard me say, well, we don't have anybody to talk to today, or something like that. She walked in. That may have been, I don't remember if that was the first