 That's not a trauma. It's a trauma, yeah. It's a lot of people because there's been a movement recently to want to support and there are children who say, Rainbow babies. It's a big movement to recognize that women who can't have children suffer a trauma and all that. And then we say, I had eight children but I lost five and they keep trying. That's a trauma that sometimes a woman goes through and lives and we've normalized it so much.