 But you and all and I know and our viewers know for months we have been trying to figure out Doug Burgum. Who is he? We've interviewed him many times. And he has said from way back, yes, there's some really conservative things that passed in North Dakota. And no, he doesn't think they should be done on the national stage. So it's not as if he's trying to adhere to what he thinks Trump wants. This has always been his position. And they are probably better aligned than the others who are mentioned in that same breath as the potential VP.