 A seance of some kind. Oh, yeah. I interviewed him later in 1990 or something. I just watched your Paul McCartney. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Was that a great interview. Thank you. Thank you. And what's gratifying is that most of them seem to hold up pretty well. Yes. Whatever years later. And there's an appreciative audience for it still. So that's something that I can take some pride in. And what I'm doing now at HBO, even though it's sports news,