 And then the minute that the cameras were turned off, they were back to the backstabbing. And then not long after that, in front of the cameras. Remember John Kerry was for it, then I was against it because he wanted to run for president. All of these people, there's nothing sincere about it. And unfortunately, right now, that sincerity is also lacking by a great number. I won't say, oh, maybe there's one standout somewhere. I haven't met him yet.