 See, that was an easy one. Yep, that was easy. Yep, and so what you've got to do is get your income up, your outgo down, and that's not easy, and it's working a lot of hours, and that's not easy, and sacrificing, and that's not easy, and then you'll clear the debt, and that is, then you'll look back and go, that was easier than I thought it was going to be. Matt's in Grand Rapids. Hey, Matt, welcome to the Ramsey Show. Hello, Dave. Hey, what's up?