 were a bunch of heretics and apostates as well and and so when when pope john paul ii gets in he understands what frederick douglass said way back in the 1800s says it's easier to fix or easier to build strong children than fix broken men pope john paul ii knew that the church was infiltrated taylor marshall has a brilliant book on that by the way that highly recommend it to everybody to read uh when you realize that the church was infiltrated by these people long ago and so so they slowly consolidated their power