 They said, honey, this is what you need to do to raise these kids. But now we don't want to get anybody else in business. We don't want to do that. We don't want to do that. But it seemed like they'd get on the phone and then they'll talk. Talk about what? Buddy, listen, if so-and-so would have did this, they would have made it. But why didn't you help so-and-so do what they needed to do?