 Now, did I get the numbers right that she's paying, she's 1,200 a month coming in, but she needs 1,500, including paying her credit card payments? I believe that included her minimum payment on the credit card. I think it did. Okay. I think when I watched the whole clip back, I think I saw that. So basically what she's doing is she's borrowing money on a credit card to pay the credit card, mathematically. Okay.