 Definitely humbling ourselves and having faith in the process was a struggle, but I'd definitely say be persistent and resilient. Absolutely. Because you know what, Dave? We're all taught to pay off debt, but then it's like, what do you do after you pay off debt? And so we're loving these conversations because we've just been so used to paying off our student loans. Four years. I mean, that's a habit pattern right there. Right, right. Four years of doing nothing. Yeah, basically. Yes.