 And I've always admired Jerry West. And I said, excuse me, sir, are you Jerry West? He said, yes, yes, I am. And your name? And I said, is your nickname Zeke from Cabin Creek? And that is his nickname. He said, where did you hear that? I said, well, I was a manager for Adolph Rupp. And one day in practice, some guy took a shot that was unconscionable. Might have been a 40-footer. And Adolph said, well, who do you think you are, Zeke from Cabin Creek?