 And I often say to them, you've known me since I was like 12 years old. How good of an actor do you think I am? And they all laugh. And it's like, obviously, I'm not that good of an actor. If I don't believe it, I don't say it. You can challenge me on it. And that's what we've lost, too. The ability to challenge and not feel like you're demeaning me by challenging, by questioning, by saying, hey, Joe, what do you mean when you say that?