 You know, it's the recollection of a kid, but it just feels like that crossfire was kind of what they were trying to do in the beginning other than being like this 24-hour news channel. But when they started getting into programs, and it seems like Lou Dobbs kind of participated in that as well, is being on shows where he had a position, somebody else had a position. I don't know. I think we were better off when we had more of that rather than...