 A little bit of context, at this era, the idea of the cardinal conclave, so the idea of cardinals getting together to choose the next pope, is not around. It's not a thing that's happening at the time. How did they choose the pope? Glad you asked, Kurt, because, I mean, popes were basically chosen by another person murdering the current pope and then saying, nope, sorry, I'm the pope now. All right. Right.