 And we picked a day, and we went up on the south face of the mountain. It's the only road that goes up there. I can even call it a road. It's more like a mule path. It's rocky. It's uneven and very steep. And when you get to the top of it, it's thick forest on the top. And we had to use our compass. It was the first time I ever had to use a compass to navigate in Arizona to get across the top of it to look at the Sycamore Basin.