 Right. I mean, and again, that's the thing. People all the time will always ask me, what's the difference between an Ohio State and a Michigan State? Death. Death on the defensive line. Death on the offensive line. And people don't want to admit because they feel like the flashy players, the Luther Burdens of the world, the Emeka Abugas of the world, the Marvin Harrison Juniors, they're the ones that are going to get you into the college football playoff.