 about six minutes to fill up a gas tank, and about 30 minutes to charge an EV. So it's five times the capital cost and takes five times as long to charge. Most people like to charge at home, but not when they go out on the road. It just takes too long. It's hard to find a charger. So EVs, I mean, they're pretty good if you want a cool, flashy second car. Maybe if you're driving a short distance to work and you have a heated garage you can charge in the winter.