 in clearing his name and proving his innocence in that case out in Kansas. And again, Mike caught up with him on the Eye on the Illini podcast series. Wanted to play a little bit of that for you right now. And Mark Sutter, the attorney, talking about the TSJ case in Kansas. So to break it down from A to Z, it'll make it probably the easiest for all the listeners and the fans that stuff they don't already know. At least this will fill in the blanks. When Terrence came back from a football game back in September, he was a person of interest.