 So important that they reach out to that middle, whatever's left of it, I guess, in this country who's not divided among the Biden or Trump camps at this point. It certainly is a reach for the middle, as it so often is, and to appeal to that group of voters that's yet to make up their mind and figure out which way they're going to go in campaign 2024. The debate is right around the corner here, broadcast by CNN. We'll have it.