 Because as I'm doing the interview, I'm looking forward at the camera. Where he is is actually over here. It would look kind of dumb if I looked to my right the entire time I was doing it. So I'm capturing it on my computer as we're doing the interview, and I can't see them as we're doing it. Like if I bring Carrie up, I think I've got Carrie in a box. Maybe I don't.