 the crappie uh guides and uh their uh seminars a lot of people lined up and are sitting there and lined up around them to watch them guys talk and see how they uh tips on how to catch crappie better and i never got to listen to any of that and i need some advice so let me know after we're done talking so you can tell me what they said yeah okay i will do that and uh you know a big hit and i seen him walking around plus he had