 That's going to help them. It's those qualities, those personal qualities that could sway those double haters a little bit one way or another. You brought up the trial before. Amongst double haters, over 20 percent of double haters say, you know what? That trial made me feel more like I want to vote for a third party candidate rather than either the two major party candidates. This debate is an opportunity for both Biden and Trump to speak to those double haters and to try to move them ever so slightly in their direction.