 So we'll get to his Charlottesville lie, which he keeps telling over and over and over. And Trump thoroughly fact-checked him on stage over it. But he also relied very heavily on the so-called suckers and losers comment. So there's a story in The Atlantic a couple of years ago, several years ago, in which it was claimed that Donald Trump, in visiting the beaches of Normandy, had called the fallen soldiers suckers and losers. And that was trafficked in The Atlantic anonymously.