 you have to have that in front of you. We just talked about the company's values. When I interview any position, I am really testing to see, does this individual, where have they struggled with these values in their life before, and how would that translate into the role of president, CEO, but quite honestly, any other role in the company as well. Isabella, what's your next question for Ron? How do you find motivation, maybe not just in your job, but in your life in general?