 Yes, it was. Yeah, well, he's been in business a long time. He's a lot older than you, so hopefully he's gathered some wisdom over the course of time. Angelia, was this a waste of your time or did you get anything out of the conversation with Todd? I did learn a lot about working hard and being able to reach to the point where you want to because I would also like to take care of things myself. And so I find it admirable how he reached to this point. Yeah.