 And it's going to be hard to rebut. The facts are the facts. Donald Trump was convicted by a court. And for partisans on the Republican side, clearly they're upset about that. But for the broad American people, they haven't really yet been exposed to that and what that means and what that implies about having a convicted criminal serving in the Oval Office. And I think that this is where the Biden team is going to try to make that point as clear as possible and lean into it across all different issues that they're discussing in the campaign.