 It does function well when there are clear roles. But there is a bristling. I mean, we don't have a woman at the table to say, wait a minute, guys. So kind of give us that overview of why the roles are important. And we know what God has said. We can read the word. He laid out the descriptions for us. But men can abuse that, and then it gets all off on a wrong track. But when it's functioning in a healthy way, it's beautiful.