 But the way the format's designed, if he gets two minutes and they don't interrupt him, he'll speak, and then Biden will speak, and then Trump will speak, and you're going to get two distinct visions for the country. I think they did Trump a favor by saying they're going to mute everybody's microphone. I think that works in his favor. If he made a mistake in 2020 in that first debate, he interrupted too much.