 and never even told Donald Trump what the charges were. You can't make it up. Anyway, joining us now, Sean Davis, CEO, founder of The Federalist. Jeffrey Lord is with us, author at The American Spectator, host of The Word of the Lord, which cracks me up, the name of his podcast. And anyway, Jeff, at one point, how many years did you work for Fake News CNN? About two, 15 through 17.