 So that's how we get most of our plastic in the oceans. Matter of fact, I was talking to a guy the other day who said that when he was a child, New York was taking waste and just dumping it out in the ocean. And they eventually stopped because it was floating up on New Jersey beaches. But this is one of the things that nations go through. And when they get wealthier, they learn better ways to take care of waste and plastic.