 You have to be able to judge character, judge credibility and judge how a potential witness would testify. You know, what would their presentation be like? And in this case, everybody knew in his camp, Terrence Shannon Jr.'s background. They knew how he was as a person. They knew how he was as a respectful student. They knew what his coaches thought of him. You know, Tim Johnson came in today and testified on his behalf and gave incredibly heartfelt, you know,