 fight flight and free well flight is freeze i mean yeah it's the same category i mean it's they run forward or back so what i have discovered though on especially on financial things like losing your job as an example or uh just waking up one day and going oh we're about to be repoed because we're so freaking out of control here or we're about to lose our home or we're going to retire and have to eat alpo or whatever it is you discover that's on your doorstep that scares the