 The defeated role of that presidential debate commission, for the last three decades there has been this nonpartisan group that has arranged these debates, figured out how they're going to proceed, what they're going to look like, who's going to moderate them. That group all but non-existent now, at least in the context of this campaign. We have this debate today, another one scheduled to take place in September that ABC is going to sponsor if that in fact comes to pass on September the 10th. But we have moved very far away from...