 is an interesting one as well. The head of CNN is saying he wants the debate to harken back to what we saw in 1960, that first and pivotal debate between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon. He wants to sort of pare down all of the artifice, just focus on what these two have to say. We'll see if Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be able to do that. They're saying their role in this debate, Nathan, is not to fact-check in real time necessarily, but to facilitate a conversation, as robust a conversation as possible between these two candidates. Yes, a former president and one who's currently in the office.