 Joe, look, they're working the refs, and it's really great to be with you and to be with Rick to talk about this. Clearly, the partisans around Donald Trump are worried. They are concerned that Joe Biden, with his experience and, frankly, his experience in debating Donald Trump in 2020, proves that he'll do a good job tonight, and they're worried about Trump. So they're trying to reframe it and spin it. And it's not just the pregame. It's, of course, the game itself during the debate.