 And he did it derisively. My dog's trying to get off my table. I'm going to walk with my phone, if you don't mind for a second, just so I don't have a dead dog on my counter. Yes. Some water. We're talking to Kathy Lee Gifford about her new book, Herod and Mary. It's a thriller, but based on the true biblical story. Kathy, you know, you talk about no coincidence.