 It'll be tough. I think we're in for a good one. I think Wayne's in for a good one as well. I think it's going to be a competitive game, and we're used to having competitive games with them, and I'm sure they're thinking the same. So it shouldn't be any surprises out of either one of us, I would say. And Coach Duncan on the things his team will have to do to have success tonight. For us, it's going to be defense, pitching defense. I know it may be cliche, but