 so i think you know we were talking about foods before we do we went out and everything too and i i do want to uh... say that you know you do make your own foods for their season everything like that and you know and i i gotta give people credit that make their own dog foods uh... and at least you know and with veggies and so on and so forth but of course no gravy's and no salt and peppers or anything like that no spices um... so that's all left out but then at least you don't have to worry about it being bad food