 for Brian Burns, and the Panthers turn it down, and talking to the Panthers about it, what they said was, look, if we start giving up our best players, how are we going to build a foundation? And I think what some people felt around the league was that with Brian Burns, he's a good player, very good pass rusher, really good edge rusher, but he's not elite, and that the Panthers really should have taken that deal, and then the deal that the Panthers wound up taking...