 and um you know very practiced but still yet you could tell in those rehearsed answers that he was trying to get out of his mouth he got confused about his own answers and um just said the wrong thing many times and then a lot of times he wouldn't complete a sentence he'd start another sentence but the sentence before made no sense and you could tell he realized he was saying the wrong thing and it was just very uh very disturbing to me to see an older gentleman like that and and