 to do it even more and do it blatantly. He thought he was above the law. It really did. I thought it was a slam dunk, too. However, he had previously been charged and gotten away with it. In that case, Abby Lowe represented him. I think he was part of the defense, but he was not the lead counsel, was he? No, he wasn't. I sort of know Abby. I've known him for years. Abby's a real attorney. I mean, you can't say anything...