 And we're talking about Chad Ovnik over there at Hoof Care today. And, you know, Merle, for those who are listening to this segment, we were referring to our episode 520 that was out on June 9th. You can check that out on your podcast where Rex Buckman actually wanted to talk about natural balance shoeing methods. Yes. Yeah, and you can get that where any of your podcasts can be found. We're now on YouTube and Spotify. Any of your natural platforms that you go to your podcasts will be there waiting.