 his skeptics, to show his critics that he's with it and he can do the job. And right now there's some serious doubts about that. One Democrat strategist I spoke to said it'd be good to put Biden in some adversarial settings. As you know, Biden's handlers and his team have been, they've kept him away from media interviews by and large during his three and a half years in office. So maybe it's time to sit down with the New York Times and other outlets and have some back and forth and