 So knives and pots and guns and that kind of stuff that wasn't available out here in nature. They very much wanted those. But the Plains Indian cultures, all of them, not just the Shoshone, but all the Plains Indian cultures that were based on horse and buffalo culture. So they had horses and they hunted large herds of buffalo. They were very resource rich. And so whenever a society gets resource rich, so now they're not spending all their time trying to make just trying to live.