 I know, that's a really good question, and I think this book really describes it so well. So typically when a person comes into therapy, the therapist will talk with them a little bit about what their goals are in therapy, what they'd like to accomplish, and then the client will talk about what it is that brought them in and why they're there. And then typically in the first session, the therapist will lay out what they think might be a potential treatment plan. And so it's usually...