 Paul and I were giving each other a hard time one day, as you can tell we like to do. And Paul walked away, and somebody that was standing kind of near us came over and said, I didn't know that you and Paul didn't get along. And I said, oh my gosh. No, no, in fact, we get along probably so well that we gave the impression we hadn't. So if ever we see one of us pointing fingers at each other and jawing at each other, it's because we're more like brothers than anything else.