 Um, but so usually the dominant company would, would define a place that they were going to meet and then get word out to their trappers. And the company usually had multiple owners and there was usually an owner that was in the field and an owner that was with the supply caravan, or at least a highly trusted representative in both cases. And they kind of worked together to pick a spot. And then they would just send runners out to, to let people know where's surrounded we're going to be. And, um,