 Speaking during a town hall in Red Oak yesterday afternoon, Sand says they identified 28 roles in the state government that could remove what they deem unnecessary four-year degree requirements or preferences to fulfill those positions. This has been called the paper ceiling. I think it makes a lot of sense as an expression. There's a lot of really well-qualified people out there that can do these jobs. But we just sort of say arbitrarily for no good reason, well, you need to have a four-year degree to do it or we want one. And so we're losing out on really well-qualified applicants for jobs.