 We're talking with Katie Susong, who's the CEO of Grow Cedar Valley, and talking about this midpoint in calendar year 2024 from the perspective of Cedar Valley business. From construction, it's an easy slide into talking about real estate and housing, and that, I know, at some points has been a challenge, not just in the Cedar Valley, but in a variety of communities, having the right type of housing to bring in the right type of workforce. Yes.