 Okay, so what's going on here, Bob? We are working to get Michael back. Okay, because I know John Palmarosi is going to be joining us, so we might be able to move Michael later in the hour, if possible. It's possible, yes. Okay, so I do want to do a reconnect. By the way, I do have one theory about this. So Michael Thompson won two championships as a player for the Lakers, right?