 And Jonathan said, well, buddy, you know what? It's required. Sometimes there's things we don't want to do. And he said, okay, I'll go, but do I have to talk? See the change in the question, do I have to talk? No. Oh, gosh, no. We don't want you to say anything you don't want to say. Don't say anything. He goes, so I can just sit and enjoy. Yeah. He was the most important participant in that group.