 it can be with you for the you know for your entire life i mean i got certified 25 odd years ago in a different location and i still get the you know have the ability to use that training when i when i travel and even you know here in turks exactly and i think it really is so special and it is a really wonderful family activity and i remember when i first got certified in my 20s and i saw a mother and a daughter on a trip together and the daughter i think was 12