 So the best way to go about, is it just the car or do you have other debt other than a house? Okay. Just the car and the house. Okay. And what do you owe on the car? $15,000. Okay. And what's the smallest student loan debt? It's $18,000. Okay. $18,000. So technically, your car is first if we're listing our debts smallest to largest to do a debt snowball. Technically, you do your car first, which in your case might be a great thing because what's the payment on the car? I'm paying to...