 You're listening to the Lutheran Hour. Want to hear more? You'll find an archive of previous messages going back to 2001, as well as other free online resources at lutheranhour.org. Now back to our speaker, Dr. Michael Ziegler. Thanks, Mark. We are visiting with Dr. Jeff Gibbs, a beloved Bible teacher and regular conversation partner with us. Welcome back to the program, Jeff. Thanks, Mike. It's a pleasure to be here.