 But a good crowd last night to recognize him, to give a proclamation on his behalf. And sad to see him go, but he's been a good leader, and he's got the department well-positioned to carry on in his stead. Absolutely. And as we mentioned, obviously, the council has found at least an interim solution by appointing Captain Lonnie Neiman as the interim police chief, effective after, of course, Lacey's official retirement date. Kind of talk a little bit, I guess, what led the council to, of course, make this appointment.