 to go out there front and center and just say the thing. So far, Biden, of course, has resisted this. So far, Biden has said that he doesn't want to do it. He doesn't want to leave. He thinks he's the best possibility against Donald Trump. But the poll data is the poll data. Jeffrey Katzenberg, who is one of Joe Biden's top fundraisers, apparently spoke with Biden in Las Vegas. And Katzenberg traveled specifically there to tell him to drop out.