 and your observations over the years that judges look for and that you try to do? I'll go from a showmanship perspective. I've always been told, like, eye contact and making sure you're on the right side of the pig and all the things. As far as the regular show, like breeding and market, they judge that a little bit different than showmanship. What would you say overall is more important, the showmanship itself or kind of the build and the makeup of whether that be a pig or whatever you're showing?