 And I appreciate, so Chris Bennett, for example, is a fabulous volunteer within that. And I think that's, in some of these spaces for me too, you know, this is my second puffer. And it is identifying, yes, there's a lot of great people that have been a part of Puffer for years and years and years. And, you know, how, what can I give them right now, right? So some of it is still...