 Debbie Eckhouse, a transfer from Bryant to Conference Player of the Year a couple years ago, kind of more of the veteran, very kind of steady, whereas Mateer is maybe more the high-octane type of guy. But, you know, I think they were pretty neck-and-neck throughout most of the spring. But I think Mateer has a slight edge, but this is a battle that's probably going to go two weeks in the fall camp before Jake Dickard and Ben Arbuckle make their decision.