 There's been some incidents where he's been the beneficiary of those incidents and able to get the win. Kind of your point too, Jacob, Alex Bowman sneakily has been good this year. He's 11th in points right now. They've shown speed at different times. I mean, if he was at Stuart Haas right now, we'd be banging the drum about how good he has looked. But given what the guys around him, Kyle Larson, William Byron have won multiple races, Chase Elliott's a points leader.