 He was a pharmacist, so he spent a lot of money and a lot of time getting to be a pharmacist. He said, I want to quit pharmacy. I want to go into this whole other side of things in the gun industry. And I'm like, okay, so I'm a gun guy, so I'm talking to him and listening to him. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty cool. So I said, how much do you make? And he said, I'll make $65,000 on my side hustle. How much do you make as a pharmacist this year? This is 2012. He said, $60,000.