 some others and uh you're just taking care of callers like that one earlier as you should oh well thanks i try every now and again you gotta you know sometimes people try to do a sneak attack and i let everybody get everything out and if you want to have a legitimate conversation we have it but if you know you want to try and pull a fast one on me you know i have to pull a fast one on you but what do you think that the surprise in october is going to be patrick