 but we've all kind of been brought up where maybe we use some of the wrong pressures. So I've learned from some real nice people and some great people that are really effective at it. So I'm just trying to pass that on. And when most people see that you can approach an animal kind of like the horsemanship deal, you know, maybe 60 years ago, we didn't do everything perfect. Maybe 50 years ago, we didn't do anything perfect, but boy, today we're sure a lot closer to not perfect, but we're a lot better.