 Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. All right. We are in the middle of a conversation with Craig Van Dyke, Keystone Cooperative over in Valparaiso, Indiana. Now, when we come back, if the supply and demand numbers, yes, they matter, but they may not be the primary drivers, what are they? Is it the funds? Is it the outside markets? What is it? We'll talk to Craig about that next.