 And he was just sort of starting out playing golf. Him and Roethlisberger both played at the same event in Tahoe. And Rodgers is a good stick. Roethlisberger is a pretty good stick as well. But you get out there, and that's different than playing with your buddies on the weekend. Because you've got to play every shot. Now, if you double bogey, you just pick it up. But you've got to play every shot. And there's a crowd there. Travis Kelsey ended up hitting somebody. The gallery thinks you're actually decent.