 And what really blew my mind, I was talking to him about a bunch of players told me he never yells. So I went to him and I'm like, is it true you never yell? And he said, well, I try not to ever raise my voice because I want people to understand that you should be calm and cool under pressure no matter what. And yelling at these kids doesn't resonate with them. That's not the way I do business.