 Again, an inexcusable apocalyptic level failure. All right, this is where it gets kind of hairy, and I'm going to need some time for this. So you know what? I'm going to take a break, because I hate teases. You know that. I think they're stupid. According to my source, there was no ladder found at the scene used... This is important. Maybe ladders were there later, and that's where you're seeing some of these pictures. My source is telling me there was no ladder at the scene