 You need to reason with them. You need to reach them. You need to set limits and you need to have natural consequences. It's not that you let them run roughshod over you and you just lie down and be a doormat in life. It's that you need to set rational consequences for them and standards by which they act. And when you try to threaten them, it backfires. I'm Dr. Ellen Kenner. You're listening to The Rational Basis of Happiness, toll free, 1-877-DRKENNER.