 it's just been fun to watch. Like, when he got the Taylor gig, we were all like, oh, that's really cool. I mean, he's been a drummer for that long. We're like, oh, that's cool. Oh, okay, for a while. Got it, got it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, he's been there for, I mean, over 10 years at this point. So it's just kind of crazy to think, yeah, oh, man, congrats, you got the Taylor gig. And now it's like...