 And so after we get our horses in that willing frame of mind, that yes, sir, yes, ma'am frame of mind, then a lot of times we'll just ride around a little bit in halters and lead ropes. And when that's going good, then I like to introduce gunfire with halter and lead ropes because we're not yanking on their face. We're being as fair and as honest as we can to the horse. Well put. And I'll translate that. I think that's the most important thing because if you're out there by yourself and