 And both are blessings. Or, who knows, as you look at that. It's kind of an amazing thing when you think about his revelation. As he talks about the fact he knows a man who 14 years ago was caught up in the third heaven. And then he says whether in the body or not, I don't know. Only God knows. The vision is so pure and so amazing that Paul isn't sure whether it's just a vision or whether he actually was taken to heaven.