 And I thought a lot about it, and I realized that what Sister Catherine did was unusual in that time, in the 1950s and the 1960s. But in a way, and very subliminally, she ended up being a role model. Not that I would ever raise my children the way she made us be raised, and I certainly didn't. But she was powerful. She was fearless. And I think I did get to a point where I was fearless.