 the experience being able to connect with everyone else in the room and get that feedback from each other and support it couldn't happen if it was a room full of 25 40 people and so the environment we create as well as such a safe environment to practice skills that we may be very nervous about so if I'm listening to this for the first time Kylie Kylie got chalk ladies and gentlemen is our guest Kylie if I was listening to this for the first time and you're talking about impact speak your way to success how long