 Um, and his dad started off just buying cattle and machinery for the local, uh, Eastern New York farmers there and built a great reputation. Jack came back out in the business in 1973 and said, dad, I think we should get into the auction biz. And his dad reluctantly kind of went along and anyway, they wound up getting into construction and the sale Saturday was amazing. Uh, tons of unused equipment. Of course, there's a bit of slowdown in the, you know, the economy and, uh,