 and then if you're going to go organic and if you're going to choose i highly recommend that you know expect to spend 80 90 bucks a week on juicing that's crazy and another problem with the juicers is you end up throwing away all the fiber and you're concentrating the sugar that's not good oh no no exactly and that's one of the dirty little secrets of juicers you know the fact that you're throwing away the fiber and so therefore you're concentrating the sugar i was in the health food store the other day i grabbed a bottle of blueberry juice