 For explicit detail. And the way the debate ran with Mr. Trump. He also lied 28 times. But my fault, a bad night, says the president. Chuck Sievertson, ABC News. The interview has not stopped talk among a growing group of Democrats calling for a change at the top of the ticket. Even steadfast supporters like California Governor Gavin Newsom acknowledging the pressure. This is a really important week and weekend. None of us are naive.