 And Joe Biden, even further to the left than Barack Obama. But Joe Biden fit that mold, that old, you know, white-haired man that, you know, comes across as the elder statesman. I was vice president, I was senator for half a century, etc., etc., where people, you know, can relate. He had a degree of retail politics to him where he was used to getting into trouble and getting himself out of it using his charms.