 on these horses and it takes them, so, you know, maybe they're eight or nine before they're doing pre-St. George. My horse, he's a little bit trickier and so it took him a little bit longer. And so he decided 10 was his special coming out year. And so you can have horses that it takes that long because there's so many, so much that you have to teach them. They've developed those muscles. They have to develop the sitting power, the pushing power, the balance, the straightness.