 when you do it right. And that's why I think sometimes we take for granted how good we have it here. Well, I think it's important we all recognize that perception is reality. And as an elections commissioner, you've got to battle that. You may think you're doing it all right, but if the public perceives it in another light, then you've not got it done yet. But the other side of it is I want the other states to join us, as Iowa has done, on getting voter ID in their states. That's imperative. And the other thing is I remind my peers