 Rick Tapp is our guest. He's the director of the Waupo County Conservation Board. He's our guest here on Dialogue on 1240 AM and 102.7 FM KBIC. We kind of talked about the process of... He said it takes about a year and a half for the chronic wasting disease to finally prove to be fatal for a deer. And we also talked about it passing from mother to baby and how there's been proof of that happening as well. So...