 And that's just one portion of what EXCA does. I know you're mid-central champion, and you're also Kansas State champion of the EXCA and Missouri State champion. So disciplines, again, the EXCA and the UHCA and all of that is bringing a lot of obstacles and a lot of challenges to a horse that they normally don't see every day. Yes, absolutely. So when you're doing some of the obstacle competitions, the cowboy races,