 Kurt starts a lot of horses, does a lot of stockmanship demos, and travels the country. How he handles cattle is pretty amazing. I know you got to ride with him at Equifest, but he's conducted a lot of stockmanship demonstrations, and he truly is somebody to go see. I know that you and I have done this together, but it is truly a talent out there. Absolutely, yes. There's an art and a skill to it, and he's very good at relaying that.