 as being a tougher out right now. And I would even say that a team like Cleveland has got the better one through nine right now than the New York Yankees do. So I'm not at all sold on them. I think if they run up against a team like Seattle, they're flawed offensively, the Mariners are, at least for now, until they make some upgrades. But their pitching is really good. And I just think that when you start facing the best of the best on the mound in October and you have a game plan where basically at 3 o'clock you're saying, listen, our season's on the line.