 consensus of view about what we want the economy to be, what we want the market to be able to produce, and to put a little bit of a thumb on the scale to make that possible. So on a generalized level, I obviously disagree with that, as I made clear in that interview where actually both of us were beardless at the time. A much more free market than JD is, but he's an excellent and intelligent expositor of his position on these issues.