 and whatever maybe Dion was able to learn from that experience in a major conference in one year, he applies in year two when we see where they are. Eleventh is pretty low. I mean, eleventh out of sixteen, you would hope to be better than that. I think it's very possible they are better than that, but I think that's a safe place to put them where you can put them completely in the cellar, but you're basically saying, yeah, you're going to have to go earn my respect. You're going to have to go and prove something to me because...