 Well, here's the problem. First of all, they're made of metal. You touch metal to metal, it is going to be hot as all can be. I can't touch that with my fingers. I'm going to burn myself. That's number one. That's a good point. Number two, you got vegetables in the skewer here, and I got news for you. All you need to do, you know what? The point is you want the vegetables to go down the grate. This is what you do. I got news for you. The grate goes horizontal, put the vegetables vertical. If the grate goes vertical, you put the vegetables horizontal. That's it.