 McCaw said the CCBA program helped him with the financial side of running his cover crop business, especially when it came to advertising. It's helped me kind of get a little more on track with the stuff that's not any fun, like the bookkeeping and all the invoices and all that other good stuff. And it's helped me kind of think a little bit more about advertising, mainly what I can do, the small things to help me grow my business, I guess. And the ladies that I've worked with are excellent. It's been a really good thing.