 where there wasn't much direct voter contact, uh, in a lot of these situations and it's continued ever since. And it's been a very structured environment. He's held fewer press availabilities and press conferences than anybody since Reagan. And you will recall on the second term that Reagan had, there was a lot of question about his, his stepping, uh, mental acuity, uh, as he got older. So there is some, uh, some of that going on as well.