 Boy, that's really, that's fascinating to me. So how did they come, how did the university come to you? Did they sit you guys down? Did they sit you down, Joe? Or did they send you an email? Or how did they notify you? Well, they called me into a Zoom meeting and they said, we have a personnel situation we want to discuss. Now, I've been, I was chancellor for 16 years, so I did lots of personnel situations. And