 This had stood out, and of course, Connie Chung of ABC News 2020 had gone to visit there in the year 2000. This was originally on television. You could see the actual pictures for yourself. But the HA revolution has come here, Pat. And of course, we've had three years of use of HA. But we could lose people in the science. So they want to know what's real. Is this for real?