 That's why Iran and Russia are being attacked. Daesh is reconstituting and has taken leadership in Tajikistan. And we've got to work on that. And that means something that puts us on the same side as Russia and Iran. It's complicated. These are complicated policy choices. We'll come back to them in just a second. Let me get the perspective first of Ashley Jackson about Daesh. That's the French name, isn't it, often used for ISIS. It's interchangeable in the conversations that we have about this.