 This is On Point. I'm Debra Becker. We're talking about a new strategic partnership between North Korea and Russia and what it might mean for the world. With us is Stephen Sestanovich, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and Seung Yoon Lee, a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. And before the break, we were talking about the changing dynamics, really, of the relationships between Russia and other countries and North Korea. And