 for Israel to extricate itself from. And that will be Hamas's victory in the short run. They will get the war they were looking for, the long-term insurgency that they hope will give them the bloody shirt that they can wave and say, we are the true nationalists and we are the real leaders. That's Hussein Ibish of the think tank, the Arab Gulf States Institute. Hussein, thank you for joining us. You're so welcome, Daniela.