 on this basically canoe bug hypothesis. Where did your interest in that begin? Oh, my goodness. It was really happenstance. In 2008, I had a NASA-funded project to study cave thermal behavior in northern Chile in the Atacama Desert. And looking at a map, I was like, huh, well, I have to bounce out of Santiago to get to Antofagasta, which is where we drive to get into the Atacama Desert. But you also have to bounce out of Santiago to get to Rapa Nui.