 Okay. Well, thanks to all of you. I've really enjoyed this conversation, and it was certainly an interesting evening, to say the least. And this is, we are told, the first of two presidential debates. The candidates have at least scheduled one for September. There's a vice presidential debate coming as well. We're grateful to CNN for sharing the simulcast for us to go through tonight, and we will continue to have more coverage of this debate in the rest of the presidential campaign on NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep. This is special coverage from NPR.