 This is a commission seat specifically set aside for an expert sort of cultural practitioner, native Hawaiian practitioner who has that cultural knowledge, but also that connection to our resources. The four names on the short list for that seat, Makahiapo Cashman, director of the Loʻiʻaʻaʻa at Kānevai at UH Mānoa, and Hilary Buchanan, chair of the Molokaʻi Planning Commission,