 So I think knowing that really gave me a different orientation in my own relationship with my own boys. It almost changed my entire orientation towards them rather than thinking I need to control their behavior and stop them turning into these toxic men and be harsher and be stricter. What I realized that boys in general in our culture are missing is this level of emotional nurture. And so it helped me to kind of correct for that kind of undernurture that I think is there in the culture.