 Both Joe and Jack very much were as one would expect because that they're living in this space, you know, as advocates. But what are you hearing on the road? I'm interested in what you're hearing when you kind of go out and talk to voters who don't perhaps pay as much attention to these issues as these guys do. I would say outside the organizer space there, that sentiment, it's much more shared across the country of being not happy with these two men, worried about age, wishing we had someone new, younger.