 And this is HPR 1 at 7.04. I'm Derek Malama. You can hear the first presidential debate live this afternoon here on HPR. We'll be carrying NPR's special coverage of the debate beginning at 3 p.m. this afternoon. The debate itself will last for 90 minutes and will be followed by half an hour of analysis from NPR. And you can also listen to the debate online at hawaiipublicradio.org.