 And it is all things considered. HPR, I'm Dave Florence. Getting close to dinner time. Zippy's, is that going to be on your, you getting some mac salad as part of that operation? Familiar local presence, 23 locations across three islands. They're in Vegas. And for the president of the parent company, location that went from being a hangout to something much more significant, Pacific Business News editor-in-chief A. Cam Napier tells us.