 You know, when when he would come in and start saying, why are you saying these things? You've got to be more positive. You've got to be more positive. And he would get angry with me. But then at the end of it, he would always say, we're OK, aren't we? I mean, we're good. Things are OK. Because he didn't want to leave the conversation thinking that we were at odds with each other, even though many in his staff at the time were overtly.