 in really horrific circumstances in northeast Syria. And when we look at the population that remains there, it's this lingering legacy of individuals who have been affiliated with the group in various ways, whether direct militants or family members associated with it who have no criminal culpability in relation to the group, but nonetheless are being punished because of the affiliation their family holds. And there seems, Joanna, to be a striking lack of international interest in reintegrating them, doesn't there?