 But I could also see a situation in which it just becomes so complicated and so sort of self-negating that everybody involved says, maybe this is not a great decision. Maybe we're better off not dealing with this. And he takes a pretty small role. We'll see. And what would that mean if he takes just a small role? In other words, how influential is he in Pennsylvania? If he's not a strong surrogate for Biden there, do you see that affecting the outcome of the election?