 In the early days of the pandemic, Eric Mack moved his family into an unfinished house in the high desert outside of Taos, New Mexico. It's been quite the journey. Mack is a contributing editor for the tech publication CNET. He spoke recently with Here and Now's Peter O'Dowd. Eric, welcome. So good to speak with you. Thanks. Thanks for having me. And first of all, why? What motivated you to move your family into this unfinished house that was completely off the grid?