 It makes a lot of sense. I do want to talk about a couple other things that you're involved in. You mentioned Helelani and, of course, Makerspace. But we will hold that thought again. And, of course, we'll be right back on this short break to continue our conversation with Christian Anderson, Executive Director of Pisces. And I'll get into some of the projects that they're working on. This is Bite Marks Cafe.