 Well, our process, we were working very closely with Kumu Mauliola and Kumu Maile, was for us to collect items from our aina, Northern California, shells and rocks and fibers and whatnot, and to organize them in such a way that we would have access to them once we had a sense of what we wanted our ki'i to look like. And then we got hold of coconuts, drilled a hole in the back so that we could insert our fingers,