 And I'd heard about that practice of just living with long notes on your instrument and really becoming familiar with the harmonic overtone makeup of the instrument. Never really did it because there's a lot of stuff you can do with the sax that involves, you know, things that you might consider to be music. Whereas with the shakuhachi, at least the way that I'm practicing it, it's not so much about the music. It's more about my relationship with making the instrument resonate.