 Bernie Madoff, for example, they actually tell you about how they started out with small eyes and became bigger and bigger. There's a wonderful quote by him. He says, it starts out with you taking a little bit, maybe a few hundred, a few thousand. You get comfortable with that. And before you know it, it snowballs into something big. And what I like about this quote is that he says, you get comfortable with that. What this tells me is that he probably felt bad about it when he began. But over time,