 But we need to find a way to incentivize them to further intensify their work against ISIS. There's a vicious war going on between the two. And that puts us on the same side as some awkward bedfellows. And thirdly, in the same context, Daesh don't pose an international threat to the extent that they did because they don't really have a base. But they are building one now in Tajikistan, a failing state beset by poverty and authoritarianism.