 Norman Solomon is with the Institute for Public Accuracy, co-founder of RootsAction.org, which sponsors the Step Aside Joe campaign. Chris Lehman is the D.C. bureau chief for The Nation, just out with a piece on last night's first presidential debate. We're going to continue this discussion with looking at Biden and Trump sparring over the economic record and inflation, addressing immigration and reproductive rights, as well as foreign policy. Stay with us.