 You know, one of his engineers told me, what's his best instrument? She goes, it's his bass. You know, his bass playing. Nobody talks about that. He's an incredible bass player. He's got that feel for the funk. You know, he's talked to Larry Graham a lot. Remember that gig he did where he was just a band member at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago backing Chaka Khan and Larry Graham. And he was just in the background being a band member playing bass, as I recall. And he loved it. And, you know, at his concerts, you'd never see him. I mean, he'd pick up the guitar, but I saw an entire show of him.