 Sure. So they had very bad outcomes. I mean, I will say a couple of things. What we heard was, number one, it did not reduce health care costs. I mean, that's the goal of this whole thing is to reduce health care costs, which is something that we agree we need to all come to the table to figure out how to do that. But that did not happen in Vermont despite this effort. Now, what we have seen in Vermont is and you mentioned this earlier, Rick, 11 out of their 14 hospitals are now operating in the red zone.