 I do think, though, that they're more likely to fall on eight than they are on nine. And it's a really tough schedule they're looking at this year. It starts and it finishes gruelingly. They might have a little room in the middle to make up wins, but it's going to be a tough start and a tough finish. And that tough start is going to hurt when you're acclimating yourself to a new era. Usually we don't say this when a defensive player leaves. Usually it's quarterbacks, but it's a new era without Arundel. I'd rather play the over Seattle seven and a half than play the over eight and a half, laying that juice with the Rams. I'm with you, Joe.