 It's been five years since the pitchers won it. And that was... Kevin Williams is a reliever. And 2020, the weird COVID year. You go back outside of the COVID year, a pitcher hasn't won this award since Michael Fulmer in 2016. Wow. That is 10 years, basically, of position players winning this award. It's hard to ignore what Skeens is doing. But it's also hard to ignore the voter precedent. And I think when you look at this award...