 And we're at this famous place called Ben's Chili Bowl. All the presidents eat there. And they were kind enough to give us the back room to have chili dogs and a sit-down conversation with Jon Jones. A little bit different from our studio-type interviews. And he just fought Alexander Gustafson for the light heavyweight championship of the world. One of the big Swedes back in the day. And it was a war. It was a five-round war.