 The unions had a place a long time ago when it was almost like slave labor. But as modern times come in, they've just bred lazy-ass people as far as I'm concerned. I know a lot of people that have been in unions, and they're just laid off because they're at the bottom of the rung or something like that, and they go on unemployment for years. And one of them came to work for me, and he saw the light finally, started his own business after a while.