 Did we hear the things that Biden really cares about there? Well, I mean, arguably, there's no greater cleavage than foreign policy between these two men, because they just feel completely differently about how to handle it, how to appear on the world stage, how to unite allies together, whether or not you should even be involved in NATO at all. And this is something that Biden has dealt with for decades. He was chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee while he was a senator. He feels very strongly about this.