 So I think it's going to be a big challenge. The commercial breaks might be the most interesting and challenging difference in this particular format, because one of the things that this debate, I think even more than others, is going to be about is this basic sense of how each candidate appears on stage. People worry about Trump's temperament for a lot of reasons. There are certainly concerns about Joe Biden and his age. And so both of these candidates, just their presence is going to matter a lot. And so taking all of those breaks could either