 Well, I think the first thing to say is that it was immensely hard fought. At times it was incredibly shouty. They were talking over each other. And in many ways, Vic, that's no surprise. I mean, if you think what's at stake here, I mean, it's being prime minister of the country. So it was bound to get a bit heated. Who came out on top? I don't think there was a knockout blow. And I think there never really was going to be. I mean, in many ways, both Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak are rather sort of technocratic people.