 And the fact that they're also charging, Evan, with espionage and all that, which they've done with Paul, those are considered more intense and heavier charges in Russia. And therefore the price, unfortunately, and I hate talking these terms, but the price goes higher for what they will want in return. And price, again, not meaning money. Correct. Our wonderful 1A producers are telling me that Paul Whalen was arrested in 2018. Six years. James? Yes.