 no I'm afraid not I mean it sounds lovely sort of human solidarity and human communion it's absolutely wonderful and I love the idea of cabaret but no no no because you just don't it's too big it's too many people it's either mud or sunshine too much sunshine I don't know it's the physical aspects of it seem rather tough well it's always quite nice at the end of the programme to have a sort of a well mannered difference of opinion which is what we've ended up with thank you both so much for being a part of the programme today