 think about how much we used to talk about health care I mean in the Obama years and and it was a constant and then in the Democratic primary one of the things is that ideas weren't really debated in the Republican primary because the major candidate didn't participate so we haven't had debate you know policy debates have kind of died out over the last several cycles but they're really it really now is threadbare and that's one of the challenges for the moderators tonight which is to get them to do more than just give kind of a top line but in fact