 eric we've been not doing all these stories about living off-grid in the context of trying to live more sustainably but i've come to find out i think that living off-grid is not necessarily a perfect solution right you got a whole these materials and you gotta drive into town again if you forgot the eggs at the store living outside the city means that you're probably living on land that would have otherwise been wild uh... now that you've been there for a few years and you've had this experience