 rational in ways, right? That's right. And the more that you talk with people and get, we wanted to step out of the campaign cycle. And so we didn't focus on Biden and Trump. We talked to people about national issues, but from a much more local and personal perspective. And the more that you do that, I think the more opportunity there is for finding common ground and recognizing that while the extremes get all of the attention, there's actually an awful lot of common ground in the middle. You talk a lot about Lincoln.