 I love that. It actually brings memories for me of the Chinese sun chai bao where you take your lettuce leaf and fill it yourself. That is the inspiration for sure. We've been talking summer salads with resident chef Kathy Gunst in studios and, of course, all her recipes at hereandnow.org. Thank you, Kathy. Thank you both. And Here and Now is a production of NPR and WBUR. I'm Deepa Fernandes, sadly, in Alameda, California. And I'm Scott Tong, chewing in Boston. It's Here and Now.