 South Africa has experienced historically high interest rates and inflation for several years now. Borrowing has been expensive. Prices are getting more and more expensive, which has, of course, affected consumer confidence. However, new data on South Africa's consumer confidence has shown that it's improved slightly. Why might that be? Shandipai, who is a senior economist at PwC in South Africa, is live with us to tell us more. Welcome. Good morning. Good morning. It's very good to speak to you. Why has it improved? How much and why?