 Well, it was from the experience of playing the game of whack-a-mole. I mean, I spent over 10 years working on pipeline campaigns from Enbridge to Energy East to Keystone, Trans Mountain, and every time we were able to slow down or stop a new piece of fossil fuel infrastructure. And these pipelines were essential for growing the size of the tar sands, which is one of the highest carbon-intensive and dirtiest oil projects on Earth.