 The clock will restart on a plan to phase out extraction in this part of Yasuni. But Kimberly said her biggest concern is for what comes after that. I think people who have more concrete alternatives need to be working more closely with the government to make those actual plans and put them into action. There is kind of an illness here where every time a new government comes into office, they wipe the slate clean from the government before and start everything new. And that's a problem making any kind of alternative economy happen.