 played a premium defensive position, and played pretty well. And the voters responded to that. Maybe Skeens is a little bit more hypish than Strider, but I'll be honest. Go back to that campaign that Strider had. It was 22, I think. I mean, it was must-see TV every start, kind of what Skeens is. But the voters still gave it to Michael Harris because I think they value two things.