 But as a 10-year-old, and I loved hoops, lived and died hoops as a kid, they sent me to St. Bonaventure University for basketball camp. Jim O'Brien was the guy that ran the camp, yeah, back in the day. And I was voted outstanding camper as a 10-year-old. And then Jim O'Brien wrote me a handwritten note that said, these are the things you need to make it to the NBA. And the first one said, you have to practice for 10 hours a day. And, Joe, I knew right then and there I was out. I had no shot.