 So I always like to follow her, and she has a real, in my opinion, a common sense approach. And so I want to get her opinion of the debate. These are two very different people coming from a very different vantage point. So I thought that would kind of be interesting for our 4 o'clock hour tomorrow. And then, of course, at 5, we will have retired attorney John Brady, and he can get into the actual legalese debate.