 And I don't have an answer for my son or for her, but the, I don't know that the, I think I find, and I am not, there are things that, you know, I'm not good at. I actually find the iHeart app very easy to use. In fact, if you just, you know, you can set things and it'll even remind you on your phone, like when the podcast is ready and so on. But anyway, she said, here's a new one. I don't know.