 No audience, sitting down, originally sitting down, a dead debate, turn off the mics when you're not speaking so I can't interrupt him. They knew I wouldn't accept that because it was CNN, Dana Bash, Jake Tapper, and I like an audience, and probably he doesn't. Who knows? They thought they would present it. I would say no, and they would say we can't debate because Trump said no. So I said yes before they even gave me the terms. So he got roped into it.