 19 minutes past the hour. Helen, the next item is potentially of particular interest to you. You heard a little clip at the start of this hour. As a marine biologist, you've probably had some interest in surfing. In fact, I know you have. You've talked about it on this programme before. I have, yes, and I do. And I just, well, I love being on the ocean and in the ocean in any way. And surfing is a great way of exercising and enjoying yourself when you're there.