 And for the last eight years, that's basically what he's done. As a citizen, he calls himself a citizen scientist with an extreme passion toward looking toward four signatures, techno signatures, I should say. We had a caller called in one of our programs this week and was talking about knowing Edgar Mitchell, the late astronaut, of course, who you and I know. Right. And talking about how Edgar was a believer in extraterrestrial life. I'm going, uh-huh, uh-huh.