 And by that, I'm referring to the solicitation of information from sources, the actual receipt of that information, and then the publication of that information. And here we're talking about what's called national defense information, classified information. But that's information that national security reporters solicit and publish on a regular basis. OK, but the U.S. government contention was that he actually went further than a journalist would because, for example, WikiLeaks didn't always redact information.