 I believe that there are five interlocking moral issues, systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of health care, the war economy, and the false moral narrative of religious nationalism. And to be true to my calling, I have to be concerned about all of them. You make the point that in raw numbers, the majority of poor people in this country are white, the number of black Americans. And I take it you think that most people don't know that. Why do you think that is?