 And he said in this interview that he did with Offit... This is the time to get a mumps virus strain. Like, at this point, he didn't have a good strain of the mumps virus at Merck. And so you're sort of just like, if an opportunity presents itself... Take every opportunity. Get yourself a virus. Okay, so now he has a sample of the virus, and he's going to try to use Daryl Lynn's virus to make the vaccine. Okay. Let's see, so...