 than what he was four years ago. He's different than what I thought of him for the past 40 years in public service. Then that's a concern. Another reason why this debate is really important is not that it's the first one, but it is potentially the only one. Yes, there's supposed to be an ABC debate later this year, but we don't really know that that's going to happen. Either one of these two could decide, I'm not doing this again for very legitimate reasons. So this may be the only look that voters have.