 So I was cool with it. But the adults in my life were kind of less cool with it. I kind of always heard these things from teachers and my parents being like, Julian, we got to get you to open up. We got to get you to break out of your shell. You got to break out of your shell. So I would hear this thing about breaking out of my shell, and it kind of stuck in my brain. I was like, what does that mean? Why do I have to do that? And how am I going to do that? I really agonized over it.