 and, uh, all due respect, but, but a lot of times, uh, there's just a little different style. I, I wanted to play more of the, like, quartet style. You see a lot of guys playing, and, uh, he had been a music minister at one of the larger, uh, uh, well, at first, rest of the first assembly. It's been so long ago, nobody would know who he was. Uh, probably. Um,