 I get to his flat, and there's already a couple of guys who are there in kind of the living space, and him and I are talking. He brings me into the kitchen where he's doing some stuff there, and we sit down and we start talking. And we're speaking to each other in French, and he's telling me about his ideology and his way of thinking about the world, and it's very clear to me very quickly that this guy is a supporter of the sort of global jihadi movement. We're having this conversation, and it's all going fine.