 Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are Tom Cachado and Kathleen Hughes, producers of the new frontline documentary, Two American Families, 1991 to 2024, hosted by Bill Moyers. The documentary is the fifth installment in a series that follows the lives of two families from Milwaukee who struggled over three decades to stay afloat after the breadwinners in each family are laid off from well-paying manufacturing jobs.