 You take it real seriously, but you have a lot of fun with it, right? Yes. So you're reaching kind of back in banjo history here. The founding father of bluegrass banjo is a fellow named Don Reno, right? Yes. And you like his banjo style, right? His songs and the way he plays the banjo. What is it about Don Reno and players like J.D. Crowe and others? What attracted you to them? Well...