 So my question for you is we want to reduce crime. We want to get to this future where there's less or no prisons. What are the concrete first steps? Like, what do we need to do? What would you call on the people listening to do? How can we get there? Well, we would just have to have the courage of our convictions. We just have to be honest enough to do the things that we know can make a difference. We know that if we provide care and treatment to people who are dealing with addiction and dependency, we can help them.