 And you had people on the right who were saying big government is bad. And what many of us were saying, well, if you're against big government, then you can't be comfortable with billions of dollars going into a carceral system that's taking money away from other services. And if you're progressive, you can't be comfortable with underfunding education and underfunding health and human services and underfunding all of these social needs that we have because the money is being absorbed by our jails and prisons.