 the network out of its comfort zone. So at that time, what was it like working on that program? Do you know, it's so funny now, 20 years later, I can kind of reflect back on it in a way where it really seems more groundbreaking almost than it did. Because at the time, do you know, when you're in something in the moment, the only goal was to make the show as funny as possible. But I will say what I knew as an out gay man, and I was out from when I first, you know, for