 He's a caregiver in that sense. I think that the way he was raised and what he saw made him want to try and make some change professionally, as a professional. And I think it's interesting that Keith, if you just look at Keith Stanley's story in isolation, you could easily come to the conclusion that, see, all it takes is hard work. Go to school, educate yourself, work hard, and you will make it. And Keith himself made it a point