 sort of blowing raspberries at everybody in town. That lasted for a while, and then he had a huge crash at the end of the 70s. So it's kind of a rise and fall story. But one thing I will say is, as innovative as Chuck Beres was, he was also a rip-off artist. I mean, the shows he created were actually versions of shows that started out on radio. And of course, that's the nature of TV. People just imitate things. But basically, there was a show called Blind Date on radio that also had a wall