 And those things, the way we teach is hands-on practical learning. So when we go, I have a lot of different games that I do with the kids. And when we finish a game, it's not a, oh, that was a fun game. It was who stepped up as a leader in this game? And who stepped up as a follower? And how did that make a difference in the game? Could someone have stepped up as a leader that would have made it work out differently?