 an idea in him. And yeah, later on, he decided that this was a marketable idea for radio and he got some funding. But in those early things, it wasn't so much that he was trying to do a prank show as he was just fumbling around and experimenting. A lot of the shows I write about in this book are like the spaghetti on the wall period where people are just trying out different things. I mean, he was a nosy voyeuristic person and he kept trying to push buttons and