 We'll hear from some of a small group of Democratic convention delegates who were not committed to President Biden. But first, we've asked Howard Dean to come back on to talk with us about what's next. He's a former Vermont governor, a former chair of the Democratic National Committee and a former presidential candidate himself. Governor, welcome back. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me on. So three weeks ago, you and I spoke and you told us you weren't sold on the idea that Biden should leave the race. Let's listen.