 We, we human beings, we are the makers, the divisors, the inventors. Coming up on Philosophy Talk, the philosophy of Daniel Dennett. A wide-ranging thinker who wrote about consciousness, free will, religion, evolution, and more. One of the so-called four horsemen of new atheism. I don't think we need the idea that God tells us what to do one little bit. I don't think we need God for ethics at all.