 And what really intrigued me here and bothered me, I said, Annadelle, you used to call me all the time on Investigative Report. You'd say, can you look up so-and-so? Can you find out something about X or Y? And I'd do it for her. She never told me this. She never mentioned the word Bernie Madoff. It was a closed thing. When the stock market was tanking a few months before his arrest,