 and breathe and, you know, I did this together. And we did it more than once. Until finally, finally, I said, so did I pass the test? And Scarcella, Louis Scarcella, I called him Louis. He said, pass the test, pass the test. And then, you know, we got him into the studio and he really started talking to us in a way that he hadn't talked to a lot of people. And I have to give him a lot of credit because