 And he was making remarks and gesturing and he kind of looked over to his right. And then all of a sudden there were three or four loud pops. And frankly, I'm not a gun owner. I'm not around guns. So I don't hear that kind of sound, you know, often at all, if ever. And so I really did not know that it was shots being fired. And I kept taking pictures and then I realized that he had grimaced and then he grabbed his ear.