 from camp david he walked him into the speech prep and he was in the room let me just say this it is not normal for family members to be in these types of meetings i i want to make that very very clear when i was around the bush white house i can promise you the bush twins were not in these types of meetings and and i can tell you um in bush 41 his kids even one that was going to be the president united states of america right in bush 43 we're not in these types of meetings