 And you need to know where their feet are. I mean, when you disengage, can you feel the inside leg cross over the outside leg? When you ask a horse to turn, can you feel the outside leg cross over? If they're stiff, they can't do it. But once they figure out what you're asking and they do it, you can feel it and say, okay, that's the basics. So I get control of the hip, the rib, the shoulders.