 um and but I just kind of filed it away I didn't really think about it and then in 2016 I believe it was Shiloh Museum had in the newspaper this thing about anybody who has any memories about White River Red come and share them and I remembered her name and thought oh I gotta go I gotta go to that so I went to this and I was by far the youngest person in the room everybody else was white haired and they were just telling these great stories and