 like it's a balance between the two and just, uh, it's nice hearing you. It's kind of like you're channeling and go a bit. Oh, I would be honored if I could, if I could do that. Well, it's, it's like you have this similar, just a similar way of talking about it in a way that makes it relatable to, uh, to all of us. So thank you. And, um, two things that I remember from his conversation, um, one is about