 I would say, like, hey, I need someone to go cut 10 pieces at 96 inches on the chop saw. And I could just see that brief moment of hesitation where my female students would look around and be like, should I raise my hand? Like, if I'm the first person to raise my hand and say, I will do it, who's going to be rolling their eyes at me? Like, what is that saying about the boys in the room? Are they feeling threatened? Like, these are not things we should be thinking about, but they're so ingrained in us.