 And so that's when I decided to research it when I was in graduate school. And like you say, I did carry around a hand recorder at the time. And at first people maybe thought it was a little unusual, but then I think they realized it was like a question they'd always want to be asked of like, how do you feel about your nails? And everyone has some relationship toward it. Sometimes they had to do with a special time in their life when they started going to the salon as a ritual with a loved one.