 We talked a little bit about you being estranged from your family. And the last time you were on the show, you talked about this interaction with, I think it was a midwife. You were having your first son, and she asked you if you were going to have family in the room. And you said, no, we're estranged from our family. And she said, well, that is sad. And you said, well, it's sad for them to be in our lives, and it's sad for them to be out of our lives. Yes.