 The United Nations is trying to form a treaty to reduce plastic pollution, but it won't be easy, and the plastics industry has its own ideas about what to do. Let's bring in Joseph Winters. He's staff writer with our editorial partners at Grist, and he reported on this story. Joseph, welcome. Hi, thanks so much for having me. Sure, and the statistics in this kind of story are the kind that just make your jaw drop. How bad is the world's plastic pollution problem?