 We're back with Brian Stevenson, founder and executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative, who has spent his career working towards a more equitable and restorative criminal justice system. I mean, there's so much to learn from our history. There's so much to learn from your family's history. I mean, it's just so beautiful the way the way you talk about your family. And I think what's so important when you talk about this idealized future, one is you say we can get there.