 Thanks for that super interesting report, Mary Catherine. I'm Josh Landy. With me is my Stanford colleague, Ray Briggs. And today we're thinking about the philosophy of Nicia Floresta. We're joined now by Nastassia Pugliese. She's professor of philosophy and education at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro and author of the Cambridge Elements volume on Nicia Floresta. Nastassia, welcome to Philosophy Talk.