 But he played, and he was teaching me to play by note. He also taught my niece and nephew, Teresa and Roger's youngest son and youngest daughter, or his wife taught them, I guess, one of them. Anyhow, he taught me, and he finally gave up. Because I just tried to play by ear. I just wanted to play what I heard. And so he finally pulled out a hymn book. And he's like, okay, let's, you know, learn how to play this hymn.