 in terms of like, this is where my food and my sustenance comes from. And I think that a lot of people don't have that connection of like where their food comes from. So I'm very fortunate to have that connection. Well, Jasmine Graham, hang on for just a minute because there's so much more to learn from you and from your new book, Sharks Don't Sink, Adventures of a Rogue Shark Scientist. We'll be back. This is On Point.