 Oh, yeah, Janice. She's from, I think, St. Clair up in Franklin County, Missouri. I believe that's correct. Yeah, yeah. She's an educator. She's a performer. I think her and her husband, Spike, operate a venue up there where they have old-time jams and teach people how to play these instruments. Yeah, and she comes down here occasionally for our dulcimer events. She was here recently, as a matter of fact. As an instructor, I think. Exactly. Exactly.