 And so he allowed his scientific rigor. So when I listen to these guys, I think these are very brilliant people who've proven themselves in the scientific community, who are thinking along. You know, Bernardo Castro is talking about UFOs. You know, what's the origin of them? Why are we aware of them culturally? Why do some people see them? Why are they there? You know, instead of just swatting it away, let's explore this.