 eventually just be like, how's your day? And it'd be like, ah, it was fine. Like we weren't rewarding attention into the story about the past, but we weren't trying to prevent it. And, and so we just started to get on with our lives together. Um, yeah, to the point now where, yeah, she'll have good days and bad days, but we still talk quite frequently and it just feels like normal, which is something I was desperately trying to achieve. Um, and sort of, uh, ironically, um, failing to do when I was trying to play therapist.