 would sort of work directly with the employer at the start. And we'll talk a little bit about the California case with a gentleman named Vandelier who would just organize employers. He never talked to the workers. So the workers would show up one day and they'd be told they're a member of the AFL. They'd be given a card and they'd say, okay, that's great. Here's your new shop steward for the union. You're listening to Arts and Letters. Let's learn about Edward Vandelier and his manner and methods for organizing unions.