 And that guy later turned out to be a member of the Clinton administration. But, of course, this was still when George H.W. Bush was president. Right. He became the labor secretary. So Kathy did a lot of research and actually sent me to Milwaukee to meet with a guy at a union where a bunch of laid-off workers from the company Briggs & Stratton were trying to find new jobs, trying to be trained. Briggs & Stratton is an engine company. Probably anyone who's ever mowed a lawn in the United States and looked at their lawnmower has probably seen that name.