 Tom Martino. Normally, this is what happens. You get some kind of a designer to help you or somebody who can come up with a plan, and a contractor should help you do that. In fact, I'm a little upset that somebody on my list would say, go get a plumber first. I mean, where the hell? A plumber's not going to tell you where to put stuff. Did they already come out and look at it and make a drawing, or did they just say, get a plumber first?