 That's when you say, okay, we need to have this conversation maybe tomorrow when we're less emotional and we're going to decide how to move forward with this if it happens again, what we think the proper punishment would be. And so that they can feel like they have some sort of say in this family rule. I love it. All right, Katie, give us your website. Yes, of course. You can find me at theanxietyhealingprogram.com or on Instagram at the Balanced Mind Project. Excellent. Always a pleasure, Katie. We'll talk to you next week.