 Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. I'm talking with Dr. Daniel O'Toole on the Hillsdale Dialogue. I want to remind everyone, usually we have Dr. Larry Arnn, but we often have a different member of the faculty. Dr. O'Toole is the Plato expert. There are a few at Hillsdale. If you want to read about Hillsdale, head over to hillsdale.edu. Make sure that you sign up for Imprimis, the speech digest, which comes the old-fashioned way.