 and uh... she'd be committed to i believe was a half-hour our presentation with that questions acuna to follow and she spoke for about ten or fifteen minutes and walked out no questions no nothing and i was unheard of we've never seen anything of that nature take place before so i sense that when it comes to that kind of an environment she's not particularly comfortable which may very well explain the uh... the the lack of ease and anxiety that she seems to express and the capital that she has