 freedom and curiosity of the new. And I'm really optimistic about us, obviously, but others too. I'm optimistic about a bunch of new media upstarts. And then what in my dream world happens is then all of these upstarts start to pressure the legacy media to be more honest, to get better, to improve itself. And so hopefully the free press ends up making the New York Times a better place and making NPR a better place. Hopefully it