 With the starters, I mean, he would be out there at times. They stagger a lot. Michael Malone has some interesting combinations that he throws out there. I would imagine you're going to see a combination or two where Westbrook is out there with Joker or Westbrook, we're going with the two guards and see how those guys work off of each other. He can get to the rim still. From what I've seen, he's still an excellent finisher. But he obviously does struggle shooting the basketball.