 it's probably eight it was eight now it's down to five we believe three are dead he will not do anything he may not remember it makes me angry but also just i can't be angry at an old man who has lost it it could be me in 20 years right and so i hope no one's angry with me i just hope they guide me gently into a comfortable retirement yeah and on the upside you know if this allows them to keep him around i want to see him remain on the ticket because i just think that