 fill it up with some charcoal, get it going, and then I'll take and dump it in the middle. And once I do that, I'll take a good size, you know, whether it's hickory, apple, whatever wood you want to play with. And sometimes for me, it's just a simple oak, you know, which is so readily available, taking an oak log that's the width of your smoker and just taking, shoving it,