 I'm certainly no cowboy, and I don't want to pretend to you like I am some cowboy or a horse expert by any means. But look, I've been on horseback multiple times riding into the mountains with my father to go hunting for a week. I know my way around a horse. I can ride them. I can handle a horse, okay? So they said, hey, Kelly has experience in this kind of a thing. Go do mule packers. And what mule packers was, I loved it. I thought it was awesome. A lot of the guys hated it.