 amen all right and wrapping things up bob duco detroit michigan bob duco show neil boron buffalo new york neil boron live i encourage you guys to listen to their programs as well we don't talk about that enough you can listen to all of our programs just go to corporate media group.net find our different programs you can listen we record all of them you can go back in and re-listen again and again send those programs on to other people by the way and i encourage you to do that on really a daily basis we all talk about these things on an ongoing basis not just