 and they also are right at that we talked about the warriors having a spending limit the lakers spending limit internally is about 190 it's the second apron that so we have two aprons now and once you're over that 190 the league starts to put in some penalties including frozen draft picks it's just an area the lakers and most teams will avoid the celtics sure where championship team will go above that line but the lakers who are not that i think they're setting a hard line there so if they're right at that line and at 15 players