 No, it's interesting because we put the committee chair every year, and I've had to interview him multiple times. I've done that for the ranking show that I did at ESPN for years. We had him every week. And you could see the defeat in his face when you knew that there were just questions he couldn't answer. And it's not that he wouldn't answer them. It's just how do you answer the simple, well, why did you guys come to that consensus? And he's going to come in and give you the same, well, it's not about any one thing. It's about all the things because that's all he can say at that point. Right.