 even though that's the way that business is done. So I don't know what the answer to it is, but all I know is I am fascinated by these conversations that I'm seeing in these rooms with Joe Shane and the rest of his staff, fascinated by listening in on the conversations of Joe Shane with Saquon Barkley's agent in Saquon, fascinated when John Mara walks in the office of Joe Shane to have a conversation about where's Saquon going. I'm even fascinated by the conversations, the chit-chat conversations