 distrust, if you will. So I went to the minister that we had been attending a church. I was going just for my wife's sake. Her faith was very strong. And for my children's sake, I felt the need to be in a church. But I was going through the motions. And I talked to this minister and he said, John, it seems as if you're at a point in your life where you're going to turn over and start helping children. And it's as if