 upper quarter of the conference is like I said I think it's something we should be proud of but we've got to be able to stay hungry and go out and produce each and every week so that's one last thought in terms of that notoriety since you're now in the mix to win the big 12 this season I'm curious what kind of conversations have you had with your players about that new 12 team playoff and making a run at the natty you know last year Jim right before our bowl game we started talking about making sure that we finish strong and have a chance in that then if we won the game