 And he goes, so what's important is that you establish friendships with guys early on when they first get drafted. Don't just be like, oh, that's just a bunch of rookies. You want to establish friendships with all these young guys. And I thought that was a pretty good lesson. So whenever we have rookies come in, there's absolutely zero hazing, but I like to banter with them to see if they're going to actually talk back to me or are they going to be shy because...