 Holmes, is there a married couple in the home? And look at the correlation with crime, and the data proves this very much, very strongly, that the absence... It just makes sense, too. So Van Jones is saying it's not true. You know why he says that? Because he doesn't want to engage in the debate. So he just says that's a lie. It's not a lie. What Anne is saying here on the Bill Maher show is accurate, and it is a conversation that we are...