 I mean, stories, right? That's right. Who was your first interview then like that? Was it Carson? Were you on Carson? Were you with him? My first big interview was Entertainment Tonight. I remember that. I remember that. Was that Elisa Gibbons? Yeah, it was like Elisa. And then, you know, I never did Carson, and it's a big regret of mine. Because when I was in that era, you didn't...