 um that we are involved with that and then bruce aarons is known for like he said if you miss a birthday you miss anything like you're getting fired he's like football is not that hard so i definitely um it is a grind for sure um but i'm sure i can be able to customize it where we're able to get our work done and still have a life well black man joining us hey well what about sean mcveigh like how did he approach that what was his vibe like