 this is just what the English do, isn't it? Isn't it? Well, I guess they would have lost in penalty kicks if you really want to go the ultimate here as opposed to giving up a late goal after getting the equalizer out of nowhere. But, you know. Rich, it's a great question. Think about it. Wayne Rooney, John Terry, Frank Lampard, Stephen Jarrett, Paul Scholes, that golden generation, they never made a final.