 And we interviewed Bob for the magazine, and we met each other, and he encouraged me to be a horror host. And we did a lot of live shows where Bob would host. It came from outer space, a creature from the Black Lagoon or whatever, and I would write material. And Bob, again, encouraged me and said, you should get out in a chair and host horror movies. And I'm like, Bob, people don't do this sort of thing anymore. This is like when we were kids and