 And I look at that three-game swing right there, and that's the key if they can get over or will be under that 7.5. I think they could lose two of those games, and they don't get to eight wins. And I certainly think losing three of those games is possible, and then they definitely don't get to eight conference wins. So I'm going to take Penn State under 7.5 conference wins, and corollary to that is looking at Penn State's non-conference, what they should do well,