 Listen, the one thing, I don't know him, right? I've said hello to him and shook his hand, and that's about it. So I'm going to look forward to kind of chatting with him as time goes on. I really am impressed with his vision and his passion and energy with which he approaches and the creativity and forward thinking he has with this league. I'll tell you what, I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm not betting against that guy, I can tell you that. He really is an interesting guy to me in terms of how he views college athletics and