 It could be younger, could be older than Biden, but is old in the sense that they have a hard time processing things. And if you overwhelm them with information, they tend to get angry or they tend to shut down. I think Biden probably tends to do both. I think he probably tends, because even when he was younger and I saw him as a senator, he was the same way. In briefings, he would shut down. Well, I think now he's shutting down, too.