 Or it must have been something that shook him, I should say, to watch in real time the current president just melting down the way that he did from the very start. But at the same time, Tapper has seen all the same videos that we've seen. Okay, so he would have known. Now, maybe you could make the argument, well, in real time, when you're the moderator and you're watching that, it's a white knuckler. Like, oh my gosh.