 You know, and they meet me. So you always want to be a talk show host, right? Absolutely not. When this was forced upon me back in 1989, I did not want to do talk radio. It's the last thing. You might as well have said, Gary, we want you to clean out septic tanks. Because I didn't want to do this. I didn't know. And I was in my 30s at that time. I had no idea.