 of of trump throwing up his fist that is that defines the election so they're going to have a hard time with that the only way they have now is maybe to take out biden themselves let me come back to you just like we're taking this break let me come back to you with that and then we'll carry that question around the table as brad so eloquently pointed out they don't have a lot left right now they have fallen flat everywhere are americans on to it we'll be back one more segment