 Yes. It's been a long time that we've known each other. I mean, our kids grew up together, played soccer together. I mean, all of this stuff out there. It's amazing that we're sitting here in a radio studio, and we got started at KREZ. Yes, the TV station. The TV station. The CBS affiliate. Yeah, you were the general manager or the lead sales for KREZ. It was the XYZ Network.