 Um, quite a bit really. We, we make, um, just from doing this for so many years, I've, I've been part of Gojo's for 22 years, I believe it is. And just the, the relationships that you get with some of these guys, uh, um, we were, I was talking to the guy from Colorado Mesa university yesterday, and he was very, very interested in Sawyer. You got to see him pitch yesterday.