 But even still, he was always the first option. He was an inefficient scorer to me personally. Okay, so you're giving him the high-volume shooting reputation. High-volume on a bad team for most of his career. Wait a minute, but that's not his fault because who was his best player? Al Jefferson? Most likely. Come on. He's not going to win with that. He wasn't a winning player. They made the playoffs twice. Jeremy Lin was on the team. What have they done? And that's the point, Botcher, is that who is he playing with?