 I mean, it sounds sinister, like something out of a James Bond movie would make the great title of a fiction thriller. But he was saying, well, look, it's like they'll stifle the president's agenda. The president issues an executive order, an order from the Oval Office. They take a piece of paper with that with that order written on it and they put it in somebody's inbox and then they pass it to another inbox. And then all of a sudden it stalls out. It doesn't get implemented because it gets trapped in the calcified bureaucracy in the complex maze.