 Ron Rivera won that year for the Carolina Panthers. OK, there you go. Well, he in 2013, he took a two win Chiefs game from a year ago who had Matt Castle as their starting quarterback to an 11 win team that lost in the wildcard round the very next season with Alex Smith. And that was obviously the lead in or I should say the bridge quarterback before they moved on to Patrick Mahomes in the draft. And the rest is history with the Kansas City Chiefs.