 against me and i would always win i would always chase them around the neighborhood i would throw crab apples through screen doors because kids would run home and think that they're safe and once they get inside they feel hey i'm i'm safe and little do they know uh crab apple will come through the screen pop them in the back there wasn't any boundaries as far as being safe in my book i love it i would chase them home and they think they'd be safe and i'd still dart them