 I've come to the conclusion that anybody who goes through that has PTSD. The human being is just not meant to see things like that. I think that is true. And in fact, we'll go to break here in just a minute. I'll just make a comment. One of the nonprofits that I really support is the Center for American Values. And just this last week, I was down there. They have these on values presentations. And one of them, the presenter was saying,