 even if he's not a starter, for either one of these two, Julian or Christian Brown, I think in any given game, there's going to be a lot of minutes to be had. If one of them just doesn't have it that night, the other one comes in, is playing really well, then I would expect that that person probably gets pretty close to 30 minutes in the game that night. I just think that the starter reserve role between those two, yeah, there's going to be a starter, yes, there's going to be reserve, but I think that is going to be more of a mix-and-match situation as