 so that's why clay i think this time the vp matters more than he normally or she normally would because trump has only got a couple years before it's time to think about who's going to lead the country next and so do i think that doug bergum is good in that role i mean you know i got nothing against doug he did well in a couple of the debates i don't know the guy's record well i don't know him well have we interviewed him did we talk to him i