 I remember an interview that he did with Shaq that Shaq asked him, were you upset that I won the championship? Oh, absolutely. I wanted to go win one. And that's when he was already going into the 24 thing. That's when Kobe took over and became the Kobe, the killer. That's when he was running through Paul Gasol's chest in the Olympics and so forth. That's how I remember him. I loved him in number eight, but I love him more in the 24. And the only reason I say that is because I'm also a big NASCAR fan. So number eight, I associate with Dale Earnhardt Jr.,