 I learned that for a team that did not win a game last year, that there is a lot of hope, and I think it's real hope. It's not just the drinking the Gatorade. And I do think that, personally, I think the Van interview was probably one of the best interviews that we've had so far. Yeah, Van was great. We kept him on. You know, a lot of times I'll interview players and we'll do 10 minutes, 15 minutes, but...