 How much can you play him if he's not going to be a strong defender? That's where he's going to have to prove himself. I think his offense is going to be pretty good right away. But if he can't defend, and you're putting him out there with D'Angelo Russell and some other guys that aren't elite defenders, as a team, you're going to run into problems. Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated, here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's move on to Paul George. Podcast P spilled some tea today. That was great. I listened to that on the way in. It was phenomenal. And his podcast, right?