 $75,000 a year or more income, if he's paying himself $75,000, again, that's a dumb concept. You don't pay yourself $75,000. You earn a certain amount. And if you're earning $75,000 or more, why would you give that up? You say, well, he wants to retire. Well, retire from what? He doesn't have to do anything. I don't do anything with my apartments. Why does he do this stuff with his apartments? Nobody I know does that stuff with their apartments if they have taken my class.