 But this song's pretty good. I have a quick story about them. About who? Hall & Oates. What about it? So good. A very close friend of mine was in, what's that speaking group? I don't know. Where you go to practice public speaking. I forget what it's called. I don't know. Anyway, he's in there with 20 other people or whatever. And this pastor comes up to him, a minister, and asked my friend, who went to Iowa State, asked him how to get to a particular hall.