 they're they're very funny on that uh that panel and i don't watch a lot of sports but i do see a fair amount of their clips and commentary and uh it's great you know when you see when you've got good tv commentary you know it right away and there's a reason why those guys are as popular as they are you know shack barkley uh kenny what's the kenny smith and uh and uh and uh ernie uh ernie yeah