 And Aaron are kind of those guys we look at and go, you had good coaches. You had stability. And remember, he played in the mostly weak division where the Bears and the Lions were always a mess. And Minnesota was never great. So he got home field a lot. So in 13 years of prime, he was a 500 playoff quarterback. That's what he is. This is The Herd with Colin Cowherd. Wow. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.