 And I went in, and she starts going through his records. And I said, I don't know the answer to that. I just know it's documented. You're looking at it. But if you want, you can check with him. He's in heaven. He's been there now two or three years. And of course, she didn't like that. And so we'd go on and on. I was there for, I think, five hours, if I recall. It's been a long time ago.