 And those kids, man, those parents, they'll never forget that. It's going to be one of those special things going forward. Van Shield joining us in studio. And we'll keep you for just a couple more minutes, man. But when you think about UNC, and I've interviewed players about this before. I've talked to players and I've said, hey, you could be part of the group that turns this around. And obviously we haven't really seen that with the Bears. Maybe 10 years ago under Ernest Collins Jr., I think they had a six-win season.