 is because it's kids, because there are mistakes made, because there are big plays, there's more excitement. The level, the margin of decision in the NFL is just minute. I mean, just to go from 7-9 to a 10-win season, it's really minute. They're all professionals, largely all professionals on the field. I think we can think of one like the Jeff Fisher Titans team probably wouldn't qualify, but for the most part, they have it. Steve, really quick, though, with the Marshall Fulton, you remember him and Garrison Hurst.