 But what they're looking for and what they're trying to develop and their kind of stuff really doesn't pertain to what I'm trying to do every day in Alt, Colorado, with 200 kids in the high school or 300 kids. So I like listening to other high school coaches at the clinics because most of them will have the same issues because parents and kids developing and three sport athletes and how they handle their time and all that stuff. So that's what I like about it.