 uh and jim i'm just going to ask you if you can block off a half hour because i think i want you to stay with us for the next two segments if you can neil you've been listening do you have any questions with your background your military background you've been listening to this conversation it's quite fascinating go ahead and we'll just let the conversation flow neil go ahead no well you know jim i'm uh i'm a public affairs uh nco and i uh