 So I simply said, I said, we don't have him on the air yet. We don't have him on the air. Hang on, we're trying to get him on. And then I went through the first segment, and he wasn't on. And they kept talking to him, and finally they said, okay, he'll do it and talk about Israel, whatever, but only for this segment. And because I'd gone so long trying to stall, I had like a minute and a half.