 they knew and understood that they were engaged they should have understood but they knew they were engaged in elder abuse not that i feel sorry for him because his character is another thing i'm if i would if i had a dollar for every time i heard some stupid lefty go well joe biden's a really good man but he should probably step aside no he's not a good man he's not a good man the very same media outlets that work their tails off to try to keep you and me