 Yeah, and look, I think it's clear that we're not trying to say either person's a bad person. No, not at all. This comes down to style makes fights in different styles of play. But it's very reminiscent to me, at a time when they needed it, of Magic versus Larry. There were just very different styles, and people fell in love with one or the other. And that rivalry went from college straight into the NBA, and it changed the way the NBA was seen in the early 80s. And it didn't mean...