 secretary of defense casper weinberger was serving back there in the reagan era and a quick story um i was on a plane i don't know 10 years ago and we were taken off of course i was civilian and we're taken off out of washington to the right engine catches on fire we divert to dulles and we're getting off the plane and a couple steps ahead of me was former secretary of defense casper weinberger so i i kind of quickly walked up to him and i said mr secretary i served with you back in the 80s and