 expanding out into becoming a producer and doing things and producing other things, which is exactly what Steve Byrne has been doing. Right. So if you create, but I mean, and I mean that in any job, you create things and you get, you get things done. You actually get tangible things done, which technical in the technical fields, you know, you can quantify that. Oh yeah. This thing's done. Therefore you get money. Right. And I think that's what people are looking for is like gender studies. What am I creating? I'm creating bold,