 I'm also a huge Laker fan. So do we associate Kobe with the 8 or the 24? We actually spoke about that. And most of us, I think, said 8. But Dan Beyer did not. He thought it was 24. I go with the 24. You go with the 24? Yes. Why? I love Kobe because that's when he was most challenged. That's when he did it on his own, when Shaq was already gone.