 but the phenomena bring us face to face with it. So what I often say, Richard, is when we have areas of reality with a solid sense of new territory, the UFO phenomenon is one sense of territory, the near-death experience, another kind of territory, the paranormal, the range of paranormal, telepathic, clairvoyant, psychokinesis, other territory. What happens when we find that it's not on the maps of science?