 But anyway, on behalf of Bob and John and Neil, I'm Roger Barsha. Thank you so much for listening. Guys, thanks for a great conversation. Let's do this again next week, shall we? Sounds good. Thanks, Roger. You've been listening to the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast. A view of today's culture through a biblical lens. Brought to you by Preborn. Saving babies and souls. Join us in the fight to save babies from abortion. Your gift provides a free ultrasound for a mother in need. 80% of the time she will choose life.