 and that you know obviously this is the most challenging i want to see if i can if i can do it and uh this is back in the day i used to you know head up in the mountains uh mountain goat hunting on my own and that particular time i had driven about eight hours from vancouver to get up into the mountains and then parked my truck and started climbing up a trail it was snowing it was in fahrenheit right around zero maybe a little bit warmer five ten degrees at the most