 Or if you want to just say rival and just say that whoever, there's no good or bad. They're just rivals at this point in time. And everything that they do, specifically when they play against each other, is magnified. The WNBA, a sport like that, needs that. The NBA back in the day when they were taped to land NBA finals and nobody watched and no one cared and they were full of drug addicts, they needed Magic vs. Bird.