 we did log pt in the marines from time to time and i always got the shaft in that because the next two or three guys behind me i was the tallest all in front the log was not on their shoulders because that was so much taller than them it couldn't slope down enough to get to them so on that seal stuff i just i could have never done it okay i'm gonna i'm gonna transition you can say that again you could have never done it uh you know what log pt it would have probably i shouldn't have said that what would your log look like was it like a baseball bat