 Can I try to help Andre, even though I disagree with him? You disagree. Was I making that up? Did you sense that too, Roger? Yeah, it was. And that's tough for an odd couple of listeners because you should know from this show, no matter what your argument is, you ride with it to the end because you only got 40 seconds. If you can't stick with your point for 40 seconds, that's a problem. He said, I'll live to see another day. I'll call back tomorrow. But I think you guys touched on it earlier. Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey.