 And in the old days, you'd have the green money guys, green mail. They'd buy the stock and then get on the board and say, look, you've got to give the money away. You're sitting on too much cash. But it also hurt those companies a lot of times, too. But one of the reasons he's got a pile of cash, if you'll remember right, I'm going to go back now to, I'm going to guess it was...