 It just ruins the whole look. And, of course, we have enough predators out there. We have a lot of sawfly out there on hibiscus, and we have sawfly on pine. Hopefully that season's over, and sawfly can be a really detrimental little worm that can do a lot of work. And, of course, keep those white little moths off your cucumbers and squash. Those are the egg layers for all of your problematics with your squash.