 So you view sort of the, obviously there's the mechanics of that debate disaster, which was that he couldn't make an argument, he couldn't help his case. And then there's the follow-on effects, which is now a lot of people are saying, well, hang on a minute. I remember cabinet secretaries, people in charge of Homeland Security, going around and saying, no, this guy in meetings, he's the sharpest guy in the world.