 four looks at that pitcher in the course of the game, and chances are one of those guys is going to get a hit where you're more likely with different looks from the bullpen putting out a combined no-hitter, which personally I don't have much respect for. I think it's a bleep on the radar in the annals of baseball history. I agree, and the thing is that if you get back to what you're saying, they do all kind of tie in together because usually a third time through the order, assuming you're pitching well,