 Even the Our Father prayer, which Jesus said, I want you to pray this way. You can just start repeating it without having the meaning. I agree. Same with the meditation. You have to not be involved hypnotically with anything. And if you are, you have to back away and you just seek the true relationship. My father used to say a lot of times, my father Roy Masters would say, just quit meditating for a little while and give yourself a chance to breathe and then give it a try again and don't get all wrapped up in it.