 that everybody within the party pretty much knew. I mean, if you're talking about not having cabinet meetings, like you said, for months and months, and we're told that some of the meetings like that and with his own administration, that people were supposed to submit questions in advance of a meeting with his own cabinet or other advisors within his administration, this was not a secret. And the only thing that makes this different now is that they know the American people saw that debate, and now it's not a secret from anybody.