 are i guess on almost like a a quest for their own interests and they believe a lot of what they say but it's a political game in a way to them yeah play like lying with no shame i mean she sounds like a person that's afraid that trump's going to try to kill her or something i think she probably does believe that i think she does too i think rachel maddow really does believe that okay i don't send her any messages let's try to get her some help right