 And it was really funny to meet this guy that everybody had up on this pedestal. And here comes this high school dropout kid to help him to do something in the realm that I was deeply involved with, which is radio and broadcast. And they hired me to help him do something. And he actually said when it was done, he says, Alan, you have liberated me. I'm liberated. And when he said that to me, I thought, well, my job is done. I said, okay.