 People need to be motivated or sparked to start talking again in person with people. I don't know about you, Laura, but a lot of my life, if not most of it, is virtual. I'm home. I work from home. I do go to the studio. But other than that, I'm on the phone. I'm doing emails. I'm doing Zooms. How many people do you really see in person anymore? It's like a real effort.