 uh sucked up to him for lack of a better phrase just showing complete loyalty vance is married to a woman of indian descent uh so whose parents were immigrants but vance is also best known for for writing the story hillbilly elegy of his upbringing in appalachia a very troubled upbringing and he's kind of um he's not a mystery at all he is somebody that is uh quite hypocritical you know in a way though he comes from this rural these rural roots