 I was going to say, David, there's a man here, and his name is Ed, Ed Paul, for Editorial Policy. I'm just checking, is there something that he can say that we can get through? Can we get that through? Well, I've published quite a few. We've published 30 papers on this. Then you publish papers on this. Tell me, how do you publish papers on this? What sort of things have you found in your research about this?