 So working for Flynn was so brief, I just was offered the job. He'd gone before I actually got there. But I had worked with General Flynn in another life, another life for him, that's for sure, in the chairman's office at the Pentagon when he was the intel chief for Admiral Mullen. This is back in the Bush administration. And I'd worked with him very closely then on Russia and related issues, and we'd had a very good working relationship.