 So there was a lot of people came in, you know, quite agnostic on him, irrespective of, you know, what they may have thought about the way that he conducted the campaign. But as you said, the reality of working with him close up, I think really was a bit of a shock to many people's systems. And of course, that's probably the reason why there are so many books, you know, written about him and about, you know, people's experiences there. I obviously try to frame it in a very different light because, you know, I saw it in a larger context.