 Had a conversation with my very good friend Derek Warfield. And I'm hoping that we can get him on the air before today is over. And you know he is a musicologist. He is a musical historian. He is a composer. And he is very deeply into Irish music. And music that we consider American music that is based in Irish music. Because I want to talk with him about the Borin. He's quite a Borin player by the way.