 pre-k and kindergarten and there were girls in his class and and i think my my son you know like if you ask my son who's stronger me or my husband he's going to say well they're both strong he doesn't see it as like okay well you know like because my husband is you know six one and you know muscular but he's like well my mom could totally take down my father vice versa like that's the way he looks at it because if girls could do the ninja class like he could why why wouldn't i be as strong as him although there's no way i could but