 And it's very damaging. And we've somehow come to a place in our culture that people think that that is an appropriate way of proceeding. And you end up with a minority of one if you're strict enough about it. I love what you just said about shoving. Say that again, because that's really profound. We can't shove and shouldn't. People are loved into change. They're not shoved into it. God, that's so profound, Mike. It's really profound.