 or perhaps even the teachers, what diversity, equity, and inclusion actually mean. So I thought we'd reach out to Liev Fenup, who's director of the Center for Education at the Washington Policy Center. Liev, welcome back to the program. Well, thanks. It's great to be with you again, Lars. Sounds like this is a problem for a lot of school districts. So they say, we want to push DEI, but we don't want to tell people what it means, or we're not even sure what it means ourselves, but let it mean whatever we want it to mean.