 probably re-listen to this show. I know that Pavel pled guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of failing to disclose a conflict of interest. He did two years in prison. You know, he did his bit. He did two solid years in prison during the Whitewater controversy. He was indicted for allegedly overbilling clients while he was in private practice. He had previously resigned his position as Attorney General, as Associate Attorney General in the White House