 and you'll hear a longer conversation between me and gary a little later in the program one of those eyewitnesses that gary spoke to was gray who said he'd spotted the gunman and told the secret service but they didn't pay attention until after the shots were fired we had a party here all day at the brinkles farming greenhouse here and we all decided hey you know when we hear trump up there we're going to walk up through the field stand by the trees up there under the shade and watch and listen to the rally right we couldn't see him but we could hear him