 the ability to survive in the way that Jeff Corey did. Holland was a real victim of the blacklist. He and there was another fellow who was named, I can't remember now, Al Hammer, Alvin Hammer, who had been part of the reviewers, a very good comedy team in New York that had Leonard Bernstein and the man and the woman, very clever people who used to write skits. I can't remember their names now.