 people either like him a lot or hate him a lot and there's very few people that are persuadable and so what I don't know is like he definitely had a moment he understands like Reagan did like Reagan understood that he was at the center of a stage like Reagan was an actor 50 movies or so and his two best scenes and his two best movies were hospital like deathbed scenes right so Reagan understood intuitively that key moment in that operating room what he had to say