 And it's also very financial about being a winner. I mean, as we also have learned that Trump himself was always covering up his losses in business, the bankruptcies, spinning them in a different way. And it's not just for making more money and basically getting more loans, but it's also, as you said, the psychic death. It's kind of part of his own persona, his own image of himself as someone who always wins, no matter what it is that he's winning at.