 Yeah, and you don't get the same synergy. Right. You don't get the energy of what's going on in the conversation and actually see, as the mayor said, eyeball to eyeball, what is the reaction to the conversation. And just the inflection, the face characteristics, that can lead a conversation in different directions and often, I believe, in a better direction because then you get to connect, literally connect with your audience, your constituent, with people, right?