 And she said, you just said the same thing. And my mother said, she's my sister. How can you talk about her like that? And it was just so wonderful. There's such a profound truth at the bottom of this, Frankie, and that is we love each other into change. We don't shove them into it. So relationships come first. And if we're going to reconcile, we have to humanize each other and not stop because we disagree. The idea that if we disagree, we can't be friends, it's just ludicrous.