 They say that we have to curve back and look at the Chevron standard that was out there, and we have to really limit the ability of the executive branch to regulate what's going on. And so as a result, the juries really are the only recourse for people now to really get the public aware of what's going on because the EPA is not supporting it anymore. They're just not giving information out. And it's really the commercial entities that have the information, which is really what's happening with these verdicts. And so we think the best deterrent effect is the verdicts.