 Okay, great. You know, in life, there are times when you have to learn from others, and then there are times in life when you have to give back what you have learned. So we are doing both in real time, me and Kathleen here. I'm learning from her, and hopefully she's learning a little bit from me on how to do a talk show because I've got a few ideas on how that works. I've done enough of them. I don't even know, Kathleen, how many shows I've done, but it's thousands and thousands and thousands.