 And there's a sense that this slow sort of escalation management policy will actually be a slow death of Ukraine. And so in that camp, which is a smaller camp of Americans, there's hope that at least if Trump were to become president, there'd be kind of a 50-50 chance that he might actually help Ukraine a lot. And so this has been, I mean, I think obviously, firstly, everyone is traumatized by this. And it's part of our American trauma. I mean, how many presidents have been shot?