 ever pushed it. You heard him speak about it? I've heard him talk to everybody about it, but never his kids. He wasn't willful about it. And you know what? He just lived it. His life was a good example of a man that was seeking the truth all the time, wanting to know the truth all the time. You know what's funny? This is kind of similar. My dad, when he would want us to try something new, food-wise...