 he called me this morning but i was busy i didn't answer you know it's working out i don't let pick up the phone when i left and then it got to the point where people really thought it was uh true when i actually haven't spoke to either of the presidents but it just goes back to the same thing i think you're and i upset about the same things that we have been that we in real time in our lifetime uh we just uh it's like oh carl this is bigger than than watergate well carl