 from 9 in the morning until 4 p.m. when they have the real annual meeting, which takes five minutes like everybody else's annual meetings. So it is important. And you talk about the culture. The meeting itself has become so important as a networking thing that a lot of people will tell you, well, going to hear Charlie and Warren is not even my main thing anymore. It's seeing, you know, John Iannuzzi and Vitaly Katzenhausen