 was that he translated really well to young people. He's one of the youngest vice presidents and nominees in the history of this country. But also, he has a way of communicating that told us that very well in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania, two key swing states. And so his connection to the working class, his connection to those who feel the American dream is slipping away, whether you're in the working class or a young person who can't get their first home because interest rates