 This question he asked gets kind of to the core of his identity. And this is one of the most controversial aspects of how people look at and will at times criticize J.D. Vance. So first of all, Middletown is not in Appalachia. J.D. Vance comes from his family history is definitely in Appalachia family in Kentucky. But he grew up in a part of the industrial Midwest that I don't think there's any map of Appalachia that would include Middletown.