 It's a risk. We know it, but it's a risk we have to take because Trump's campaign is gaining and he is even leading in battleground states now. And you just have to go out there and hope you have a good debate performance. And so that's why he did it. And we all know what happened. It was disastrous. So if he had stuck to his original plan of not debating Trump, would he still be in the race? Would the pressure for him to step down from fellow Democrats not be as great?