 When he was, what was he? Oh, for three. I think he was on the day and stuff like that. Looking at the iPad, Ronnie went old school, man. I love it. I love it. And it was so bang on. It's what you and I talk about all the time. And he just said, I don't know what you're looking for in that iPad, but that's not going to help you. More or less was what it was said, right?