 do a product that actually does something good in the world so it takes a lot of effort yes i want to dive more into your current endeavors but i didn't want to forget i would love to hear about chopped yeah so when i came back and uh you know i was working at you know like somebody said oh you should go on chopped i actually like you know just did the application and then i did the you have to go through at the time towards a complete basically casting thing