 Yeah, that was definitely the case. I mean, in my case, he didn't want to be briefed by me. It was very obvious he saw, you know, a middle-aged woman who he didn't know. You know, I've written a book on Putin, so what? You know, he didn't even pay attention to, you know, the big guys around him. You know, here he was, he had the former CEO of ExxonMobil, you know, arguably the world's largest, most influential, important company.