 The thing is that I don't push anybody to meditate. I have friends that I've been telling them, you should meditate for 35 years. Friends that are people that know who my dad is. They've known my dad most of their life. I have a friend for 50 years since we were kids, my friend Tom. I don't know if he meditates, but whenever he calls me and he says, yeah, I really need to work on that.