 And just trying to make a different life away from that rock and roll, you know. And it was such a gift of this man who mentored me. His name was Irving Graybill. And he had the Post newspaper in the community where I grew up. And he mentored me and gave me a whole new life, you know. And that's where I got into writing, you know, because you have to do the captions. You have to do the stories and all that. And God gave me a gift.