 voting for a Democrat, but they don't love voting for a Donald Trump either. And they may not make speeches about it because they're not the majority of their party, but they are pivotal votes in pivotal states. So I think this is where Vice President Harris gets the opportunity to make a case to show what her thinking is on some of these key issues that could appeal to the middle of the electorate. And she has the skill set to make those appeals, given where she's at in her life at this point.