 So the fact that Trump chose him is not typical of Trump, except for the fact that it's been several years now where J.D. Vance is really. I mean, J.D. Vance said something that I will tell you personally sent a chill through me. OK, Bob, this bothered me a lot. J.D. Vance said he said that if he had been Mike Pence, the vice president, he would not have certified the 2020 election. He said that.