 we were able to move forward in life, but we need something that gives educational opportunity without huge crippling debt for people for apprenticeships, retraining, skills, how they're going to cope in this new economy. So one of the things I would just suggest very quickly when we're thinking about this big shift that's coming up from hydrocarbons and coal is we need funds to enable the people who are working in these spheres right now, unlike in the 1980s when they didn't get that assistance,