 Not exactly the same, but that Torrey Krug, Matt Gryzlik-ish role, where he's kind of a good puck mover, that he can be on the power play, but he's your third pair D. Obviously, McAvoy's going to be your main power play guy, but he can do it. And Lindholm, too. So I think it could benefit him. And Zdorov, believe it or not, I found this interesting. He walks in. He's their biggest defenseman. Oh, yeah. 6'6", 248. He's a big boy. Carlos, 6'5", 217. He's the second biggest. So...