 You know, he said all the previous politicians have messed things up and it's time to try something new. He said we've never given this party a try. Why not? He told me Macron had been a catastrophe. He cited his raising of the retirement age despite huge protests. You know, Aïcha, ironically, the populists far left and far right have similar anti-global capitalism platforms. They support the working class and they were both against this retirement reform.