 I'm David Brancaccio in New York. If the Trump-Vance ticket emerges the winner in November, let's look at what we know about a Vice President J.D. Vance's views on spending, jobs, and government's role in business and trade. Hint, Vance sees a big role for government. I spoke with Scott Lincecum this morning. He's Vice President of General Economics and Trade at the libertarian-leaning Cato Institute. Thank you for doing this. Thanks for having me.