 He's the co-founder and CEO of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program. That's a nonprofit based in California and helps formerly incarcerated firefighters find employment. But years before Ramey started his nonprofit, he was incarcerated, attended fire camp, and fell in love with being a firefighter. I told him to take me back over a decade ago to that moment. I was incarcerated in a fire camp for about 20 months.