 screaming for help so if you don't know what to look for you would not realize that the other thing i would say like in our area i just want to pause there dr mike if you don't know what to look for you wouldn't realize that if you are the designated lookout so to speak in your group yeah what would you then what would be your tip off your tip off would be you would see their head kind of tilting back and doing everything they can to get their nose and their mouth