 I could go back to the Snake River dams. They create, when they're generating the most they can generate, about 3,000 megawatts. And some people would say, well, that's a modest amount. But the truth of it is it's firm power. And that firm power is extraordinarily important when it comes to balancing intermittent power, such as that what is supplied by solar and wind, of which we have a lot in Oregon, and we're getting a lot more. But that balancing function, that almost like a huge battery function, hugely important.