 And in this case, I have a guest who's been on with me before. Her first book was called Thriving After Trauma. She is a licensed clinical social worker. So Sherry Botwin will be here. But her brand new book, which she has also voiced, she's the audio book narrator of her brand new book, which is Stolen Childhoods, Thriving After Abuse. It's a tough topic. It's a difficult one to imagine and even to hear. But