 so um it was gary lockwood who said this to me if you got on their casting radar that was there was a guaranteed four or five grand a year because you did one show they would put you on other shows and which was a lot of money for a working actor and i'm sure dern if he remembered it would put it much the same way but if you played the heavy in one episode and they brought you back the following year they would not necessarily cast you as a heavy right