 And one of the things that I always think about is, I had this idea many years ago, and I mentioned it to him. And he said, well, we have this, and we have this, and we have this, and you might be interested in this. And he would call me and say, well, listen, I pulled some stuff for you that you might want to look at, even if there was no project. And he would make copies of things for me. You know, columns that Hal Humphrey had written for the LA Times back in the early 60s, or