 in preventing the spread of hiv for decades to come and my guest today is andrew green who's a global health journalist based in berlin andrew as someone who covers this area as well do you find there's this mixture of steps forward and and steps back when it comes to global health oh definitely and i think at this point in the midst of what people are calling a poly crisis there's real concern that we're taking a big step back i mean there was massive funding injections in the global health space during covid but but those really seem to be disappearing at the moment