 I'm like, okay, he's not going to score a bunch of goals. He's not going to be a Norris Trophy guy either, but he's a good, solid second pair defenseman. He can slide up to the first pair at times. Then you even look at the Morgan Geeky signing from last year. Geeky was good at times this season, but again, it was a contract with upside. It was two years, $4 million. It's not going to kill you. Now this year, he could theoretically be your second line right wing.