 Yeah, but clearly Vancouver made mistakes. They brought in Lindholm and Zdorov, and it just didn't work for them. They clearly made the wrong moves in trying to supplement their team with the wrong players. That's a criticism of Lindholm, though, too. I think he'll look good next to Poshnok, but I don't think he's as good as everybody makes out to be. Well, and I think what you want out of Lindholm... The contract at the back ends go hurt. And the reason I said that Bergeron role, and to be clear, Bergeron's a Hall of Famer. I'm not comparing. But the role in that...