 In the last few years since the pandemic, we've become so virtual or we've become so, you know, do it over the phone or do it over Zoom or do it through an email. And it's just we're missing that. We're missing what's happening right now at this table. Yeah, and you don't get the same synergy. Right. You don't get the energy of what's going on in the conversation and actually see, as the mayor said, eyeball to eyeball. Mm-hmm.