 I don't mind debt, but I tell you what, I know how to wield that mighty debt. Because if you don't have debt, then you're just paying into the government. But if you have some debt to be able to make improvements, then you're improving on your business as a businessman. You're making these improvements. You get to write those off the debt. So you're giving yourself the money back. But that's not commensurate, though. Well, I mean, sure, you get to write it off, but it's not a one for one.