 Right, so joining us now to help us unpack what we do know about J.D. Vance when it comes to climate and environment is Dan Garino, an Inside Climate News reporter based in Columbus, Ohio. Hey, Dan, welcome back to Living on Earth. Great to be here. So, Dan, how would you describe the J.D. Vance we've seen in recent days? The J.D. Vance we've seen in recent days is this version of him that came into life with his Senate campaign.