 you know, were photographers, the ones that have taken the pictures that we've seen. Doug Mills, particularly the New York Times photographer, he was interviewed on a few network shows. He took the picture of the bullet. And Doug Mills, many people might not know his name or his face, but you have seen a Doug Mills photo before because Doug Mills took the picture of Andy Card, the former White House chief of staff under George W. Bush, leaning over and telling Bush that a second planet hit the tower. That famous photograph is Doug Mills.