 If you're an office landlord, though, unfortunately, I would say you're still kind of on a very slow-moving train wreck because what we see is we see debt maturing. We see office values crashing for the most part. And so unless you have very high-end Class A properties in great locations, you're not seeing any demand on the tenant side. So you're just seeing lower occupancy. Your debt's about to roll over. You can't refinance.