 But Jonathan right now, he's down there swimming around the bottom, looking around going, what's the truth of what's down here? Everyone has to get there. We have to get off the surface of the water and dive down and to see what's going on underneath. Is there anything to be afraid of? Or is it all just a big, fat illusion lie? Because the liar lies. So you know it is. But of course it is. But then open your eyes to the reality.