 He does not think there should be an exception for rape or incest. I told you he has three small children. He feels that the approach to abortion is an approach to looking at children as being inconvenient, and he feels that the entire conversation should center around a growing fetus into a baby, and none of it should have to do with the mother. That's really what he feels, and that's what he has said. He does not think the state-by-state approach to abortion is a good one for the United States.