 fairly high. 1991, for example, got up as high as 6.2%. 1998 got up as high as 5.5%. But if you look at that bubble, that peak in 2007, 2008, which really precipitated this disastrous, disastrous fall that we had, and it was disastrous, kids not being able to go to college, people being forced out of their homes, lots and lots of bad stuff.