 calling for Trump to step down. And that is the existential question why so many people in this country think that we have a very Hobbesian kind of a choice in November. Martha Zahler calling in from WDUN in Georgia in just a moment. She's got a lot to say about this. She looks at this from a lot of different angles. She is one of the foremost talk radio hosts in the nation, and she joins us in just a few minutes. We'll be right back.