 And I think in the long run, it does damage to those individuals who are minorities that are holding positions of trust. They're there because they're qualified, not because of the color of their skin. And I think the governor setting this narrative is suggesting that they're there for that reason. And it's just not good. And I think we need to move away from labeling everything. When I was a kid in the 80s, there was this big push to sort of see past minorities.