 And if you want to simplify it, if you do the opposite of Wall Street, he's not short-term oriented, he's not casino, he's not trading, he's not gambling, he's not transactional, which is a nice way of saying screw your customer when you can, if you need to, and all of those things. And he's based in Omaha, which is about as far away culturally as you can get from the canyons of Omaha.