 Kind of in the middle of high school. I actually grew up playing drums first. Yeah, I noticed that you were playing drums too. Yeah, I would still consider that to be my main instrument. That was my real study, and I was in bands in high school, and I just wanted to write for the bands that I was in, so I picked up guitar just to write. I didn't really start being a frontman or a singer until the middle of college, like after college.