 And so I always talk to my parents or the families, really listen to what they're saying, not just listening enough to formulate your rebuttal, but listen to what they're saying and get the full story. And then for the students who come in and tell me that, I always say, well, okay, tell me, is it giving you the lifestyle or the successes that you're looking for in life? Is it leading to the academic success? Is it leading to the relationship success?