 the shell like this. And he won't, but he won't go like this? This is the carapace on the bottom. He won't go underneath? No, no. He can't take his head and bounce, get underneath. Oh, he can just go side to side? So you can just slip your hand underneath. Oh, gotcha. Now you gotta be careful with that because they got very sharp claws. They can also scratch you. Yeah. So, but this is a way you can do it for a smaller snapping turtle. You can move it across like this.