 really represent the bulk of my experience. And then lastly, within those companies, while it's only been four companies, I've moved all over the country. My wife and I have lived all over the United States, and those moves have afforded me the opportunity to work in every aspect of the insurance industry, claims, underwriting, sales, product, various general management roles, P&L accountabilities, et cetera. So that's who I, and marketing, as we mentioned earlier,