 He wrote back to me. He said, stunning loss. He built that entertainment department from nothing to be the heart and soul of KTLA. And he was such a fun guy to be around. And that's what everybody seems to say. He never had anybody speak a bad word about him. No one ever said, oh, secretly, he's a real jerk. And he could have been because he could have really punched his ticket at KTLA because he really did build up.