 And essentially what we're saying is we think each other is evil, and that's not very constructive for a debate where we're trying to change hearts and minds. Immigration is another one. Conservatives more and more say it's evil to flood this country with illegal aliens who are going to be rounded up and sent home and gives them hopelessness. And the left says it's evil to force them to stay on the other side of the border where they're fleeing drug cartels and gangs. And everybody wants to call everything evil. It used to be we could have...