 Why are you laughing? Carmilla's just cracking up over here. Why? What's going on? What do I not know? So, you know, I was in the city when Carmilla got here. And we are both essentially first-time CEOs. We're both women. We're both moms. And so the mayor's office set up a meeting for us to just meet because we're both leading the education in the city. And so we had our meeting. And then we just... Our friendship grew out of that. So we typically...