 Well, that is my thesis, Jim, the ordinary and the extraordinary. Your ordinary life builds in you the intellect, the passion, the ideas. That is your ordinary life. That's your daily life. The extraordinary is when that opportunity goes and comes right in and says, step it up, here's your chance. That's what I'm talking about, the hero's journey. It can be as much as the phone rings and you go, hello, and they're like,