 So there's a little demonstration on how we would move turtles. And I literally just recorded that on video, so I will post that. That's the first time I've ever had to do that. Go on. Now, in a box turtle, we don't worry about getting bit, so we do hold it like a sandwich. Okay. Just like this. And we do use box turtles at the zoo for ambassador animals. So the ambassador animals are used not a lot because we don't want to stress the animals out. When we do that, we hold the turtle like this very securely. They don't feel like they're going to fall, and that makes the turtle happy.