 He was such a calm presence and somebody who you could tell really doesn't like controversy. I mean, seem like a pretty simple guy. It really doesn't like controversy. I could feel, you know, Mike's energy is just a really, really sweet man. But but somebody who was like, look, I don't I don't want to ruffle feathers here. I just want to know that things are being handled properly. And I want to know that I'm also doing good by the people that we've been serving for for decades.