 I thought he was kind of calm because, as a number of people have said, he plays to an audience. And there really was no audience there. Technicians, camera people, and the two moderators. So he really didn't have where he could come out and start not yelling and screaming, but hyping up an audience and getting them cheering and that type of thing. And I think that played to his strength. And then when I looked at Joe Biden, it was...