 Well, it was from the experience of playing the game of whack-a-mole. I mean, I spent over 10 years working on pipeline campaigns from Enbridge to Energy East to Keystone, Trans Mountain, and every time we were able to slow down or stop a new piece of fossil fuel infrastructure. And these pipelines were essential for growing the size of the tar sands, which is one of the highest carbon intensive and dirtiest oil projects on earth.