 that by having this debate, there's a moment of reset, a moment to kind of recapture what the message of each of these campaigns is, kind of signal to the American public that the campaign is entering another stage, kind of end some of that stage as we've seen. So I think that's the most lasting impact. I mean, there's supposed to be another debate in September after those conventions on September the 10th. ABC is supposed to be running that. Who knows if that'll happen? That's what's on the books right now. But I think that what makes this moment so pivotal is it is a moment when they're both on stage together, and it's something that we haven't seen since 2020.