 not been my life path, but I sure wanted it in that moment. I mean, in a moment like that, if you believe in God, there's someone to rage at, right? Totally. Yeah. Yep. Alan Townsend is my guest, Dean of the University of Montana's W.A. Franke College of Forestry and Conservation and author of This Ordinary Stardust, A Scientist's Path from Grief to Wonder. You're listening to Think. I'm Chris Boyd.