 the defeated role of that presidential debate commission for the last three decades there has been this non-partisan group that has arranged these debates figured out how they're going to proceed what they're going to look like who's going to moderate them that group all but non-existent now at least in the context of this campaign we have this debate today another one scheduled to take place in september that abc is going to is going to sponsor if that in fact comes to pass on september the 10th but we have moved very far away from