 We just sang in churches. The people would say, y'all sound just like the Staple Singers. So I said, well, we decided we'll call ourselves the Staple Juniors. I believe for about 14 or 15 years we sang as the Staple Juniors. Right back then, before you'd formed and before you'd taken on the name the Staple Junior Singers, how old were you, Edward, at the time?