 You know, do your best to kind of live happily in that uncertainty, other than the ultimate certainty that, of course, it's coming. But why worry about it too much until it does? Alan Townsend is my guest, dean of the University of Montana's W.A. Franke College of Forestry and Conservation and author of This Ordinary Stardust, A Scientist's Path from Grief to Wonder. You're listening to Think. I'm Chris Boyd.