 And he's just a very regular guy, unpretentious. His son was there. Son seemed like a squared-away young man. It was a very nice meeting. But in any case, enough about me. Let's get back to what's going on here. Because Pamela was talking about Byron Donalds. And it's funny, she is PEM, African-American, talking about how the Democrats will try to demonize, vilify,