 and to appeal to our better angels. So on this Independence Day, I couldn't think of anybody that I'd rather talk to than a true patriot, former Marine and intelligence officer. He's also a contributing writer for The Atlantic, a best-selling author whose latest book is 2054, which he co-authored with Admiral James Stavridis. Elliot Ackerman, it's great to have you back on the program. Thanks for joining me.