 But she opened the conversation with Democratic donors, I'm told, by saying, look, I'm very confident in President Biden and we are going to win this election. That was her prediction. And we should point out, Ryan, if people are thinking, wait, well, why is the vice president talking to Democratic donors and not the president? I'm told by a campaign official that it was the president's advisers who asked her to do this call. But we really should point out to everybody all the reporting we've been doing for weeks.