 dissuade or bring down the temperature but but i don't think it ratchets it up either final thought colin on what you think a tipping point would be if this news conference doesn't really move the needle one way or the other well the polls and the pundits are not going to be on joe biden's side for the foreseeable future there i saw a poll earlier today 85 think he's too old 67 think he should withdraw from the race that's pretty staggering given that we're in july of an election year but