 And Plouffe and all the other guys on the Pod Save America podcast have all been saying the same thing. They're speaking on Barack Obama's behalf. That's the bottom line. And don't forget something. I remember filling in for Dana back in October of 2023 when David Axelrod had just come back from a weekend soiree with the Obamas in Chicago. And I remember that on that Sunday, he took to Twitter and he went on a tweet storm about how Joe Biden can't win.