 She's trying to agree with him there, Dr. Arnn. He wasn't having any of it. No, no. He had this in common with Margaret Thatcher, whom I was privileged to know. She wasn't a scholar like him, of course. But if you, especially when she was in her energy before her age came, if you told a story about her, my main mode with her when I would see her would be to praise her and tell her great stories about herself. She would often retell the stories because she could tell them better.