 He said it should be. He didn't say it is. It's like if you follow the correct setup of a church, the way that should be set up. Being a deacon is a job of service. Correct. You are saying, I will take my coat off. I will get my pants dirty. I need to help people. It is a service job. It is not a job of look at me, let me boss somebody around. Correct. And that's where we've kind of lost that.