 was born into a place where dog fighting was accepted. It wasn't like they invented it. And it was very hard, you know, when you're born into a system, you accept most of what's going on around you. And 100 years from now... Right, Keith, if you could just get to your question quickly, just because I want to try and get to some of the folks here. Well, I mean, I'm not excusing them, but I mean, don't they get, you know, a little, you know, I mean...