 So it helps sort of work its way around all of those nubs that are in the surface of the stucco. But either way, prep is key, primer is critically important, and then you put in the top coat over that. Okay? Okay. All right, good luck with that project. Thanks so much for reaching out to the Money Pit. Yep, thank you. All right, now we've got Carolyn in Pennsylvania on the line who's doing some organizing and finding a stubborn cabinet odor. What's going on? Well, yes, what we have is a cabinet in our kitchen.