 For the one hand, it's if we don't have NATO, Putin's going to storm through NATO. But at the same time, if he does storm through NATO, we've got NATO. That's what NATO's there for. NATO's there for the fact that if Putin conquers Ukraine, this is their thinking, he conquers Ukraine, then he goes to Poland, and then he just traces Hitler's steps all the way up. And the entire time Biden's saying this, I kept thinking, but then if he does, that triggers NATO. Poland's a NATO member.