 actually this is gonna have to be both bottom up and top down and a lot of these people what they need was really liberation i can tell you how on how many different uh... signal or similar chat groups i am on with like anonymized initial only names but with some of the bill names i'm on silicon valley and i know that it ended up a lot of this is it scala so different if they're overlapping groups many of whom are are going to be able to say in public what they will be put into these but in these private chats