 I think that's true. I think like a lot of people, he can sometimes have kind of a more aggressive tone on Twitter than in real life. But for sure, when he's in public, when he's speaking in public, when he's talking to people face to face, he does have a more reserved demeanor. He's very good at explaining why he thinks something, carrying you through the various steps. You might not agree with those steps or you might not agree with his ultimate conclusion. But there's no question that