 Oh yeah, see, that's right. So Douglass' argument was, the country is founded on the white basis. Some of us don't like slavery. We don't have to have it. We can just make it up ourselves. But it's a morally neutral question. It's according to your preferences. And there is a very wide agreement, by the way, that people didn't want black people marrying white people, and people didn't want them living as equal citizens.