 The cheese is all gooey and melty and like you know you can see that you know the cheese has a little bit of that pepperoni grease on it. Oh my gosh that's a trip down memory lane Zach. That is so good. Meat to cheese ratio is great. The cheese is melted but not like lava and molten hot inside. Cooked long enough that the grease from the pepperonis is kind of soaked into the rest of the bread but hasn't like burned it or overtaken it. This is great.