 But right now we're on the phone. And you don't really know who you're touching. You don't have an audience that you can see people in front of you. So it's always good to know that there's somebody listening, that there's somebody hearing what you have to say. And I ran into a gentleman. I don't know his name. He said he's been listening to me for a very, very long time. Amen. And that was very encouraging to let me know that he had gotten some things from the program over the years that had blessed him. And that was a blessing to me.