 and I think that was a time when the Utah Jazz and the Bulls were going back and forth a lot. I think Jordan might end up being a lot of people's first memories if you're in a particular age group. Yeah, because I'll never forget this situation, particularly because the net and the rim used to look a little different than what it looks now. I think it used to hang a little lower for some reason on the actual basketball goal. The net used to look like it slant a little bit and hang low. I don't know if it was