 from our conversations for a Nikki Haley type, for a Tim Scott type, where they hoped that they would attract, you know, certain types of voters. And they argued that they didn't know if Vance would pull in more voters into the ticket. But of course, there's a ton of people. Were any of them veterans? He does speak for, he does pull in blue collar and he is a different, coming from a very different beginning in life than Donald Trump did.