 If they are going to be as good as they think with Web and Yama, be in the 20s, low 20s, high 20s, they think they're going to be good. So they're swapping with teams that they think might be worse. So the Spurs could be contending because this is a problem when you're a really good team is you can't build through the draft as much because you don't draft in the high 20s.