 than any other time that I ever know. Now, I didn't live in the Civil War era, and it was a very divisive time back then. I did come through the 60s. It was very divisive back then. But I'm telling you, friend, listen, although Donald Trump is getting blamed for the division in this nation, hey, it's not his fault. It's what people think about him. I'm telling you, I'm afraid. It's my opinion, and I'm privileged to share it with you, that Obama did more to divide us