 I don't think they'll have the same kind of passion there either because we're so much more fractured now than we used to be. Let's go to Tampa next. That's where Mark is. Hey, Mark, what's going on? Good afternoon. Thank you. Sure. You make a very good point. You've actually changed my topic. As far as chronologically goes, the difference between Bud Grant's 0-4 and Marv Levy's 0-4, we're not that far apart. Right.