 They begin to say, well, you know, this person is so conservative and has religious convictions. And, of course, always the stance on homosexuality has to be this is the way of saying, well, I'll tell you what, you stay with these guys. They're coming after you. So here comes Smallwell trying to get Shapiro to comment on this. Here we go. You did say, I think homosexual activity is a sin. Yes, I'm religious. Are you sure there's a genetic component? You found me out.