 I think the way that he spoke, particularly when I worked with him, so we would be on air together back in 2016, obviously had different ideas about Trump then. But I think he, being a smart person, anticipates that question, says, look, the facts on the ground have changed here. The reason I say that partly is just because of his upbringing. I think that it gives him perspective on people's lives. I think the way that he talks about Trump voters, even when he was not a Trump fan,