 Let's return to more of my conversation with Dean Matthew Spaulding of Hillsdale College. Well, Matt, how does Jefferson spend so much time in Paris during and after the French Revolution and still write the Declaration of Independence? I mean, and how does Thomas Paine end up writing the Rights of Man? Thomas Jefferson, all praise to Jefferson, Lincoln says. He got it right, but then I don't know if he held on to it, did he? Jefferson gets a little squirrely. Thomas Paine is clearly an outlier.