 some democrats are just waiting just waiting until the end of nato animal for formerly come out in those shiv joe biden and then that's going to end very quickly i think tonight's press conference will be one of those moments where they use it may say well you know the debate was bad it was one night but the well the press conference was also bad so matter what no matter how scripted no matter how no cardi no matter how much beach while they give him you know it's going to be bad