 Then we have his relationship with Larry Bird. Larry Bird said, I think we can talk about one of the first times he saw him, is, I've never seen anything like this. A 6'9 point guard, a one-man fast break, never seen anything like this before. Talk about the relationship they had, because that became national and went from college to the pros. Right. You know, both sons of the Midwest, both about 6'9", both...