 What do you make of that conversation, and what do you make of the fact that it was leaked? 1-646-7200-635. Man Cal Muller will be joining me in about 15 minutes. We're now very lucky to be airing in Chicago on a great radio station, WGN. And I don't know that anybody's been more associated with Chicago radio over the last 30 years than Man Cal Muller. Admittedly, not on WGN.