 or talking points was just the overall poor performance in that that moment came maybe maybe two-thirds into the debate and i think a lot of people would either checked out at that point we're just stunned by the train wreck that was that debate but somehow this is now spurred a conversation on what is a lie what i said about donald trump the thing that i think makes him so hard to fact check and i've seen that brought up in the last couple of days why didn't the moderators push back harder