 around the L.A. Clippers for four years, three of them, Saram, who was the head coach. He's the king of not tipping his hand until it matters most. I mean, he basically told me that he holds 90% of his playbook until the playoffs or until they need to start winning games or their season is over. Well, he's one of the lead assistants on this team. We know Steve Kerr does exactly the same thing in Golden State.