 with uh... with nina jankovic at dhs uh... he was also the chairman of freedom house which is another one of these large uh... state from angios in most things he was the chairman of p a systems which is the largest military contractor in all of nato so this is a one of these apex predators of the national security state together with the head of the cis most prolific uh... covert action conduit and they cornered the uh... the executives of google and facebook uh... for for content moderation