 a number of years ago, but turned it down because he wanted to see if he could become Speaker of the House, which he briefly did. So I didn't see that encounter. I actually had the thought, because I briefly interviewed McCarthy, I briefly had the thought, you know, if I really want to make mischief here, which, you know, why come to a convention if you don't want to make some mischief? What I would really do is try to engineer a Gates-McCarthy confrontation, but thankfully it apparently happened organically. So I take...