 and that the reason why is that this is the final audition before the dnc is the first ever known debate before the nominating convention of either political party so they've set themselves up for a win-win so they're swapping somebody in july or august maybe a michelle obama who knows who it is and whitmer here in michigan town whatever it is the gretchen whitman initially get the honeymoon phase but without actually the time for the scrutiny and i believe that's part of what the backup plan might actually look like