 and Tori Lovello. Did I say Bruce Bochy? Sorry, opposite way. Tori Lovello and Bruce Bochy. And those guys have to manage not just 11 to 12 pitchers on their roster. They're trying to get everybody in. They're trying to make sure nobody gets hurt. So a 22-year-old rookie who's, granted, more stretched out now. He's pitched seven innings in three of his last four starts. He's not likely to go more than one inning in the All-Star game.