 And what you do is you get one of these toys that's available. And there are so many. And I shouldn't say they're toys. They're like food puzzles. That's a better way to put it. And for kibble, you put it inside this little, like, ball, for example. There's a hole in the ball. So the cat learns to roll it around. The kibble tumbles out. And what you do at first is you put it where the cat can find it easily.