 a lot of people out of high school didn't really know what I wanted to do, but decided I wanted to go to college. And, and, uh, one of the courses was radio and television communications. And, uh, I thought I'd give that a shot. And, uh, you know, they had a, they had a studio there. We did, we did television production. We did radio production. We got some of our things put on the local stations there, WMMN for one. And, uh, and so it was, you know, it was an interesting thing to do. And,