 it it was really all the way around a very dispiriting uh... a couple hours the thing that struck me on the golf handicapped answer for lack of better term is it was a it was a kennedy ask moment when teddy kennedy was asked why you ready for president and didn't have the answer this was a question that everyone knew was going to cut the debate and it was almost like i'd said somebody the president from was almost back in his heels relaxing because he was like holy cow this guy isn't terrible state