 A lot of people haven't had a real, freshly made, homemade donut before. I mean, you and I have, Elsie Phillips, my great-mother. Oh, my God, yeah. Oh, my God, great donuts when we were kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can remember, this is going back, this is a moldy, oldie, goodie, goldie, my rusty rack of wrinkled memories, but Elsie Phillips was, her husband Dan and your father were very close.