 what this was about. Anyway, amazing conversation with Bill. I can't wait to share it with you. It's longer than what we normally do for interviews, but you'll enjoy it. Even if you're not a fan of the Panthers, you're not a huge fan of hockey, that part doesn't even matter. If you're a fan of people and if you're a fan of great stories, Bill Lindsay has got a great story or two just for you. I found that he's a wonderful storyteller, so we'll have that conversation later.