 And then cleansers, I use in these situations a little sparingly because you can almost overdo it. So I'm a fan of using a good ear wash preparation. And again, I'm a fan also not of using a lot of Q-tips deep in the ears because you won't puncture the kitty's ears, eardrums, but you will just shove things deeper down. So we can use the wash to loosen it, clean the outside with cotton balls or Kleenex, and then hopefully loosen things for the next time.