 with our government. But what Julian Assange does was putting American military lives at risk. He was putting us all at risk and he needed to pay for that. There is a line between being a whistleblower and revealing information that can get people killed. And that's the difference with Julian Assange. And so I know a lot of people struggle. Is he a hero or is he a villain? Look, we can celebrate whistleblowers. We can celebrate more transparency and we can do that all while trying to keep our military safe.