 And that would be official actions with presumptive immunity. So this would be kind of like a confusing gray area. So let's say that the president, for example, is pressuring Vice President Mike Pence to change the electoral scheme. So the president very often has conversations with the vice president about a wide variety of topics. That in and of itself is, in fact, official conduct. But he's pushing the vice president to do a thing that is plainly not inside the constitutional structure. And not only that.