 What? I guess he's asking what, you know. The tension between the what? C.S. Lewis and Francis Schaeffer and people like Kierkegaard and Dostoevsky. But what aspect of Kierkegaard? Sort of like traditional. Before Kierkegaard, there were some adjectives. Lev Shestov. No, they were before that. Oh, just what the tension, the tension, because they're two sides.