 I was the executive vice president. How that happened, who knows, don't care. I was the boss. And the management of WYNY came to me, sat down, and said, we want to hire this woman. And they said, we're going to put her on for 15 minutes on Sunday night. She'll get letters. I'm like, okay. And the reason I said okay without even thinking twice wasn't because I have a great ear. It was because the general manager of the station was Dan Griffin.