 That is their way of trying to convince the people in this country of their position to get rid of him. So I don't believe a thing that I'm going to read. I'm not going to believe a thing that is said by anybody, and I don't think these people could ever be trusted again. Did any of them ever speak out, have the intellectual honesty to say the valuation of the judge in New York or in Goran of $18 million for...