 And just a reminder for our listeners that here in Utah, state law allows for two ways to get onto the primary ballot. You can either go to the convention, and if you get enough votes from the delegates there, you can get on the primary ballot. Or you can go the signature route, which means you send folks out to gather signatures in the form of a petition. And if you get the right threshold, then that gets you on the primary ballot either. And so essentially, Phil Lyman went the convention route.