 but also is sort of softening Donald Trump, or at the very least, somebody who can come in and look like they could keep him in line, not worrying about his sort of going off track, and this is the person who could do that. That's where Doug Burgum, I think, because of how low-key he is, he seems just, he's not getting in fights with anybody, he is coming from a very different perspective in that way, could be