 family and to the Trump Organization, he said to me, yeah, but not for long. He said, all of that's about to change. And I said, for the better or the worse? He said, the worse. And then he kind of gave me a smile and he walked away. And I thought, gosh, I mean, and now somebody else theorized that he's sort of a pragmatist and just not a fatalist, but maybe he was saying, hey, the pendulum can swing both ways.