 non-directed conversations, small talk. He goes, it's important to have small talk. He goes, because if you have small talk with someone and feel comfortable in non-consequential conversations, when you have to have a real conversation, it doesn't come out of the blue. I feel comfortable talking to you. Now, let me tell you what just happened in school. I just got rejected. And you fill in the bank. The one thing I think it has done, it's wiped out small talk.