 anybody who's ever been in this thing and for folks like myself who've ran for office who've done these question answer sessions frankly they're not debates so let's get over the fact that you think it's a debate a debate is actually me stating a premise you arguing your premise and why you differ from me and then i say no this is where you missed up you didn't take this into account and we go back into faith that's a debate this is a question answer session okay it's not a debate