 I don't know, five or six minutes. He gets up and he walks to the front door and back and he says, it's gone. He says, the pain, the tightness, the stiffness all along the left side of my spine is gone. It's completely relaxed. I said, you know how far I moved that? Maybe two or three millimeters. That's all. That's all it took. Two or three millimeters of movement. Extremely gentle. No twisting or pulling or jerking or anything else. Just a very light touch.