 As the manager? Yes, sir. Okay, okay. So he was, but he wasn't found guilty with betting on baseball. You know, when I was five years old, Rich, you know, Joe Namath won the Super Bowl, you know, and I was five years old, you know, and I liked the Jazz, but I moved down here before the Bucs were in existence in 73. There was no Bucs, no Rays, no Lightning.