 Well, I believe in Casper the ghost. I was like a wise guy, you know. And he laughed. He goes, well, after tonight's lecture, I think you're going to believe in ghosts a lot more than Casper. And he was right because when we went into the audience, and remember now, George, I never saw anything like this before. You know, I was a police officer at the time. I was used to dealing with, you know, reality, stuff that's physical that you could put your hands on and handle.