 And so it takes a toll. And the money is not great. I mean, I warn people, especially young people that I mentor, my students at Syracuse, if you're getting into radio for the money, you're going to be disappointed. There is no money here for all but, say, a select few. That does not include me. And so that's another pressure. You know how our economy is. And New York City is extremely expensive. And so Jay is going to try to do something different and see if he can find a path that suits him.