 We want American workers to make this stuff at good wages. Okay, now again, the case that he is making right there is true about China, but it can also be extended out in principle to pretty much anything that protects certain sectors of American domestic manufacture. That's a point that he made to me in 2021. So again, I interviewed JD Vance back in 2021. It's really a fascinating interview. You can go check it out over at YouTube. And we explicitly discussed industrial policy. Here's what JD Vance beardless at the time had to say about industrial policy at that point.