 But I mean, there's so many different stories. I could have that one wrong. We'll check to make sure. But here's the rest of the exchange. I spoke to the president right before coming out that day. And that is what the president told me. It's not something that came from me. That is something that came from the president. So he was saying even as he was looking for her in the moment, it wasn't as easy. She was tough. She was tough.