 It tore at Bud Selig's heart and soul. So it had less to do with Barry, more to do with protecting the legacy of Henry Aaron. I don't know, because he had a lot of arrows coming towards him, Bud Selig did, for not stopping. Remember, people were actually coming out and saying he should suspend bombs. That came from the pressure. Nobody cared about it until George Bush said something about it. We would laugh about it. I would be on the radio.