 who've been a part of kind of mass shooting events at concerts, couldn't go outside for years, couldn't go back out in public for years. And so just on a basic human level, I think to be helpful pastorally, we start with the fact that it's tragic and complex. And that's where we used to pause for a while. That's right. I've been doing radio for almost 50 years, and there used to be a time where you didn't joke, you didn't make it political, you didn't do anything.