 You know, they're at the head of NATO right now, or of the European Union, in his most bellicose wave at the moment. This will be extremely important because if they go ahead to establish such a permanent NATO-Ukraine committee, that officially puts NATO into the war with Ukraine, officially. Of course, it's been there all along. Because up to now, the whole line has been, no, this has been a war between Russia and Ukraine, and we're just supplying them, but we're not a war party.