 And why do we say that? Well, people are, well, you can repurpose it. Well, there's a cost to repurposing, right? So you got to factor that in. And again, it's regional. We've got a commercial real estate income trust that we use for our clients. It's very conservatively focused. It's what I think it's the oldest one in North America with a phenomenal track record. And we looked at every underlying property, every single went through every single office space through every single property.