 serious television about the law than anybody else I know. Professor, Justice Breyer came to the studio about a dozen years ago, and we had a debate about the First Amendment. And I read to him a piece of the Massachusetts Ratification Convention, where Mr. Smith got up and said, Mr. President, I am a plain man, and I get my living by the plow. I'm not used to speaking in public, but I beg your leave to say a few words to my brother, Plow Jogger's house.