 Well, clearly, Vance has his eye on the president. You're listening to KTalk Radio. And that's what worries me about DeSantis of Florida. He wanted early on to be president. You never trust a guy who wants to be president early on. Especially when you get into political pressure. Besides being a former never-Trumper, his rapid rise in politics, he's only 39 years old, is due to powerful establishment forces promoting him.