 file box full of paperwork and said, you need to look at the effects of vaccines and the negative effects that they're having on children. And he said, look, just leave me alone. I don't want to hear about this. She said, I'm not going to leave your doorstep until you at least look at the information here. And he was honest enough to say, all right, well, just to get you off my doorstep, we'll go through a couple of these papers. And he started to read through it