 And he called her bluff. And that's how the debate happened. And if it hadn't have been for the fact that Donald Trump called her bluff, they would have gotten away with saying, we challenged Donald Trump to a debate, and he doesn't have the courage to stand up and defend his record, stand up against this president. They thought they would gain the moral high ground by challenging Donald Trump to a debate that he turned down. Donald Trump said, sure, I'll debate.