 but able to talk about what most people consider kind of boring public policy in ways that make it interesting, or at least make it interesting to nerds like me. I mean, one conversation I had with him, he went on about zoning and building roads and infrastructure and all the barriers that the federal government sets up to really developing our communities in ways that make ourselves flourish and make us more prosperous. I thought it was great. So I think if Trump does select Governor Burgum, he'll have someone