 a gentleman by the name of JJ Carroll, uh, you probably know about him, uh, was interviewed by several different people, but one of his most recent interviews by Steven Gardner here in Utah, who's got a really good podcast now, very successful, but, uh, he was talking about the border and he's making a film on treason. I, I don't know if he's going to have, uh, going to live that long for the things that he's revealing about what's going on South of the border. And, uh, then, uh,