 shepherds in the liberal intelligentsia telling them how to manage their lives. Hold on, Noah. We're going to disagree. I read Hillbilly Elegy. I interviewed J.D. at length in August of 2016 before anyone knew who J.D. Vance was. He himself, J.D. Vance, came from a shattered family living with his grandma and his grandpa down the street. They had divorced.