 Now, Rachel Goldberg, one of my closest friends, a fellow named Ambassador Robert O'Brien, he used to be the National Security Advisor, but before that he was the Special Presidential Envoy on Hostage Affairs. And so I would talk with him almost daily about his tireless work to bring back hostages. I know Roger Karsten enjoys his immense esteem, but has Mr. Karsten been in touch with you often, the President's Envoy on Hostage Affairs, because Hersh is an American hostage and you should be in touch with what we call the SPIHA.