 not the first time that he's done a NATO conference. This is something he does every year. He was just in France for the Normandy anniversary. He was just in Italy for the G7. He meets with foreign leaders and goes overseas quite frequently. So this is not something new to him. He does press conferences at all these different trips abroad. Americans just aren't paying attention most of the time when he's over there. But these leaders know him. They work with him. He talks to them frequently.