 I mean, we have evidence of Obama just completely ignoring him in the same room. That's one of my favorite clips. I love that clip. Because it's like the Chester and Spike cartoon. Remember that? Two dogs. Hey, Spike. Hey, you want to play? You want to do it? You want to play with Spike? Hey, Spike, you want to do something? And then Spike's like, nah, smacks him across the room.