 How to stop it in the second term? Alex Newman. Yes, that was an interview with Mark Moyer, a very interesting guy. He served in a very senior role in the U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID. And so he had a front row seat to how this corruption works and kind of break some of that down. He's got a new book out where he exposes some of that corruption, where he exposes some of the deep state machinations and how