 and they want to do anything they can to cause as much harm as possible, and every American ought to be sickened by this. Now, again, Mark and I disagreed on the formality of the use of deadly force. I'll share with you the little back and forth dispute that Mark, I think Mark's one of my dearest friends in the world, so hey, sometimes friends disagree, and I strongly disagree with anybody who thinks this isn't a big deal. If you don't think it's a big deal, you let me know.