 and um that's a bad stage to be in that's right before you lose a bunch of money so i hope i can just scare you a little bit and you'll go ahead and stay away from this but i don't know usually you got to lose some to figure it out or at least i lost five grand on a uh a gold option i took an option position on gold back before i went broke and i had some money i had a lot of money flowing in i was in my 20s and a buddy of mine came to him and he goes hey