 The following program is pre-recorded. Morning glory, America, and happy Fourth of July. Happy Independence Day to you. It's Hugh Hewitt, and this is a special edition of the Hugh Hewitt Show, a special edition of the Hillsdale Dialogues, in fact, all of which are available at HughForHillsdale.com. And it's with Dr. Larry Arnn, the president of Hillsdale College. All things Hillsdale available at Hillsdale.edu. And so appropriate that he be joining me on July 4th. For the past 15 years of the Hugh Hewitt Show,