 We were a talking head show, like sort of a McLaughlin group. But I was a conservative, and the others were liberal, and that was fine. I've never, ever been on a conservative show where there are more conservatives than there are liberals until I did the panel with Brett Baer in the last, I don't know, four years. And I have spent my life in media, and I joined Chapman's faculty in 1996, teaching first torts for one year while they don't teach con law at Chapman until the second year. I've been teaching constitutional law since then and practicing law. I have had...