 Mike Pence used to say he was a Christian conservative Republican in that order. And I say, no, I'm a Christian Republican, center-right conservative in that order. I believe in the Constitution. Lincoln did, too. He argued that the Declaration is the apple of gold that the Constitution frame of silver protects. Do you think it is constitutionalist in the way that Lincoln was about slavery in 1860? The Constitution obliges the country to have and defend its borders. I think it's a constitutionalist position. What do you think?