 The fact that he couldn't get up for one interview with a guy who was... He needed like a 6 out of 10. Yeah, 6 out of 10 would have really helped. We're not expecting a 10 out of 10. No one is. Even if he did a 3 out of 10, maybe he would have been okay. And I don't think that he hurt himself particularly in that interview. And Stephanopoulos, I thought, was...