 And the chaplain, what's fascinating to me is I never knew his name, but about a year and a half ago, I got a phone call from a young man who is the son of the chaplain who talked to me and said, my father talked about this kind officer who he was helping. And I went, oh, my gosh. And it was one of those just I get chills just thinking about that moment of us discussing our fathers and what they had to do. My father would say, you turn around and look at a man one second, turn back, and all you would see is legs in the air.