 through his cardiology, preventive cardiology practice, to get to the bottom line with people's ailments and also helping people so they don't have ailments. It's a good thing all the way around. It's a two-way street. You can work on your body after the fact or before the fact. Better to work on it before the fact. We've talked a lot about this, Ken, over the years, about why the insurance companies don't provide for patients