 get him up for the debate and that he totally airballed it so that's why people were surprised because in general biden does tend to rally a little bit it's one of the things he does and the fact that he didn't do it makes it clear to anyone who's still holding on he doesn't have a fastball i mean he doesn't have a curveball he didn't have anything he's no pitches left but then how do they get him out that's way more complicated and step number one is he doesn't want to stand aside