 They are such dedicated materialists. They're such ideologues that they can't bear the idea that there's such a thing as mind. They can only talk about there's a brain. Right. Because mind would imply something transcendent or something beyond the physical mushy thing in our skulls. They don't like that. They want it to just be, you know, that there's this physical thing called the brain. And they can't bear the idea of mind.