 role and he said it's almost as if he's a new employee he's getting onboarded he's learning a brand new team you know and of course he knows the company so it comes in a little bit easier but he said just it's been something where he's learning every day now and and he said he will go back to his old job with a new set of skills he's done something different he's feeling he feels like he's stretching and growing and and progressing and so it can be really valuable