 as they're going through this kind of training camp exhibition start. But he's an excellent room protector. I mean, he's an anchor down there. And then you've got True Holiday, who I think is probably the best on-ball perimeter defender in the world right now, along with Derek White, along with Anthony Edwards. You've got guys who can lock in that way. So they're so balanced that there's no real way that anybody else can look at them and say, here's how you beat them, here's how you attack them, because they can adapt. They'll adjust to you.