 Is it two options, though? Is it two things I can see? No, I've seen two guys like this. First guy was Steve Nash. The other guy was Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. Now, Steve Kerr, he never coached before. Right. He knew what he was doing. He got a veteran coach. He inherited Mark Jackson's team and then took him to the next level. Right. Mark Jackson came all the way. 100%. That's Mark Jackson's team. Now, Steve Nash, I don't think he really listened to the veteran leadership. Another guy who did it.