 mess around they tell you what the price is on that day and they say when we get your cash and depending on how much you buy or want to sell we'll tell you what our commission structure is and they do it up front no tricks no playing the float there are a lot of very very sketchy gold dealers in america not american federal i've been begging american federal for years to be my gold sponsor and they're here they don't want to do anything except sell or buy your gold