 regarding the airport. We'll get to that later on. We'll kick things off here with our Tuesday tradition, a sneak peek for our listeners at every week's episode of Sutherland Institute's Defending Ideas. This is an hour-long video chat that all of the folks there at Sutherland, a conservative think tank based in Salt Lake City, been around for decades, has the ear of the legislature, longtime presence on our show as well over the years from Paul Miro to two folks you're going to hear from today, Nick Dunn and Derek Monson.