 And he's done it for many, many years. Our backgrounds were so similar, it was scary. He was a paperboy, a dishwasher. At the same age I was, it was crazy. And what was fascinating about it is for every one person that he hires, he goes through at least 12 to 14 applicants. Any one person. And he said it has nothing to do with their skill set. It has everything to do with their attitude. Everything.