 It was okay. He was an all-star four times. But even still, he was always the first option. He was an inefficient scorer to me personally. Okay, so you're giving him the high-volume shooting reputation. High-volume on a bad team for most of his career. Wait a minute, but that's not his fault because who was his best player? Al Jefferson? Most likely. Come on. He's not going to win with that. He wasn't a winning player.