 they're in their moment right now. But teams that are ascending to get there, maybe like the T-Wolves, next year they've got to make some real decisions about how they're going to do this roster and the salaries that are involved. So we'll talk to Steve coming up in the 9 o'clock hour from NBA.com. Steve Ashburn, Berner, I'm curious to see what he says about the whole Bronny James and all the stuff that has played out, and we'll get back into that conversation as well.