 And I did this before reading what other people said and before checking out the commentaries and what the great theologians down through the ages have said about it. And what comes out clearly is one of the things that you just said, right? There was a historical empire called Babylon that was ruled by a pagan dictator, Nebuchadnezzar, who incidentally God used to punish his people when they went off into idolatry and things. He ended up taking God's people captive.