 He is. Dabo Sweeney is the same way. I'll give you an example. We were at that media day not knowing where we were going. He's walking by with a cardboard box. You guys look lost. Can I help you find where you're going? Dabo Sweeney said that to us. He is who he portrays himself to be. He was asked this week at Clemson Media Days about what are some of the unintended consequences about the college football playoff moving to 12 teams.