 oh wow oh wow are they not teaching that in school anymore now and i can tell you even myself i was i had parents the age of most people my age's grandparents you know most people my age had grandparents the age of my parents and so um i was out of sync a bit so when i went to the reunions the guys were thrilled to see me i was much younger than they thought i would be so they knew i could carry this torch longer that was important yeah i'd listen to you describe that i think the