 in the gun industry. And I'm like, okay, so I'm a gun guy, so I'm talking to him and listening to him, and I'm like, yeah, that's pretty cool. So I said, how much do you make? And he said, I'll make $65,000 on my side hustle. How much do you make as a pharmacist this year? This is 2012. And he said, $60,000. I said, well, double down. I'm on your team. I would advise your wife that you should go after this. It's what you love. It's your passion. I would advise your mom and dad that they're very sweet, but they're wrong, and that you should go after this.