 And it could be either side of the issue because there are such emotions in it right now, and people are really thinking they win by yelling the loudest. It's a weird thing to see. I would hope that we can use this to kind of calm things down. I'll say this is another thing, too. In my experience as a legislator, I've been to a lot of national meetings, and I've seen a lot of presidential candidates debate. I hate them.