 Private conversation. Always interesting. Jennifer O'Malley, Dylan, I believe, whatever her name is, one of the campaign top advisors for Biden, reports that they had a conversation, Governor of Michigan Gretchen Whitmer and her, and that Gretchen Whitmer said, you can't win Michigan. If that's true, then Biden can't win. Right now, look at the board. Democrats are rational in their pursuit of power.