 amorphous trauma that we are all going through. The difference is normative trauma is the truck hits you, you didn't expect it and the truck drives away and you have to now integrate this new reality into your life. The problem with what we, all the hostage families, our family, you know, as the, in this example that we are experiencing is the truck is still on top of us. So there's no integrating this trauma. We are in a slow motion.