 I get it, it's tough, it's the basketball business, but it's not pretty right now. Right, not just the four titles that they won, but also two other NBA Finals appearances, the All-Star Games, the Splash Brothers, the attention that they conjured up for the league. Tamer Azarli is with us from Clutch Points in Los Angeles, helping us break down the early stages of free agency. What is the market for clay out there? Yeah, so I think it kind of depends on what you're looking at. I think the Lakers and the Mavericks are trying to