 I'm sure you smell the cigars on the golf course every day. But if he sat back and had a conversation with Joe Rogan, it will humanize Trump in a way that nobody has ever seen. I think Trump will be humanized. And therefore, a lot of people that think he's like a raging Klansman will be like, this dude don't really come across like a racist. He really ain't saying nothing that I don't agree with.