 children just so you know i i will hardly agree with that i do love my children and they have been really good to us they have learned to work and they've been very helpful so you were saying you're starting with your boys starting with the boys the boys were i really wanted to i always wanted a farm but we lived not anywhere close to a farm but this turned out to be our farm because it taught my children how to work um we also homeschool all of our children so it was they were home they were able to help me they learned things that they wouldn't normally have learned