 And could affect the campaign as well. With your Media Minute, Howie Kurtz, Fox News. My brothers and I forced her to retire. Not because she was feeble-minded. She's great. And she's 85 years old. But look, I said this before, I'll say it again. I interviewed Michael Dukakis years ago when he was on the precipice of turning 90. And I think he was sharper than me.