 And I don't think anyone had a better education in national security studies than I did than sitting down often with the former president and hearing what he has to say, turning it into draft, going up to UCI. In those days, it was a depository library. It might still be. But before the Internet, you had to go to a depository library to find anything. And it was all there at UCI, University of California, Irvine. And the drive from California to San Clemente was a little bit difficult.