 This will be extremely important because if they go ahead to establish such a permanent NATO-Ukraine committee, that officially puts NATO into the war with Ukraine, officially. Of course, it's been there all along. Because up to now, the whole line has been, no, this has been a war between Russia and Ukraine, and we're just supplying them, but we're not a war party. But by making this official, then it's the United NATO forces that are now in charge