 We were all leaving the movie premiere, and we were in another guy that I know, his Jeep. Herman refused to sit in the front. He sat in the back. All of us 20-something-year-olds, I was 30, 30-something-year-old in the car, Herman Cain just sitting back listening. And he had made a statement to say, I don't need to talk a lot. I'm here to learn. I'm here to listen. He's the smartest man in the car by far.