 I mean, you know, he said something that was just really striking to me. He said, you know, my mom is close to celebrating 10 years sober. In other words, he had grown up in a culture in which drug addiction was a terrible, terrible problem. He described being raised by his grandmother who asked the Meals on Wheels people for extra food for him and for herself. I mean, so this is – and then he goes, you know, to the Ohio State University and then Yale –