 It was like that. You had a formal government, of course, with offices and everything, but you have the real government in the territory, which were the gangs. So, I mean, and I know you want to stick to the facts, but I mean, at some point you do have to, I mean, this is a really important question. Why would a government that has the means to end violent crime, there's always going to be crime, people breaking laws, but violent crime, people murdering and raping each other, is a voluntary decision that a government makes. Why would a government choose to have that?