 like the iraq war started in april we graduated in june of 03. uh so so sort of salt of the earth people who built the country uh but at the same time i think the country has sort of left them behind in a certain way and then importantly it's a question not just an economic thing right it's not just that these factory jobs disappeared it's that the people who are leaving the country started to almost dislike people like okay that is the point yeah and that that's that's