 And he said, well, I'm not sure. Let's ask human resources. And I was like, how can you not be sure? Your very first answer should be we only hire the best and the brightest, period. But they can't say that. And so I asked my chief medical officer. I said, well, look, it's diversity in the workplace. Is that a goal for Duke? Is that an end to be achieved? Or is it a byproduct of seeking the best and the brightest?