 And I'm saying, okay, let's go to the phones, clang, clang, clang, because they're bringing down all the pipes and drapes. They're trying to get out of Dodge, and I'm sitting there with a talk show that I still have to do. So it's just my goofy inside baseball question. What is it like in that room right now? I'm one of the last people in the room, that's for sure. The good news is the prune-faced NPR people across the way here.