 Yeah, I started to say. You know, with a bobber, you put a slip bobber on there and set your depth and stay back off of them a little bit and then bring it back over the top of them real slow. If you've got some lakes that's got standing timber in it, these fish will be in that standing timber sometimes anywhere from 6 to 10 foot deep on the standing timber and 15 foot of water. When will these fish start?