 Big fire and exploding thing that you think it is in your head. I think that if you guys get on a simple budget and you live on $80,000 instead of $100,000, you're knocking this debt out super fast. That's if you just, okay, we're going to cut back. But if you really got crazy, you'd knock this out very quickly. Yeah, beans and rice, rice and beans. A detailed written budget on the EveryDollar app. You and your wife agree that we are doing nothing wrong.