 elements of the Trump family are really in the driver's seat this time around and not the more moderate Trump relatives who were looking out for the family business brand. Yeah, we're speaking with Jim Antle, executive editor at the Washington Examiner. The piece is called Trump Goes Big on Rust Belt by Choosing Vance. You had an interesting angle here, too, and that is the importance of Vance if Joe Biden is replaced, perhaps by Kamala Harris.