 And so they became a satanic organization. And even when you, sometimes when you interview gang members that are in prison, they will say, I'm out of the gang. Of course they're in prison, but they will say, I'm not a member of the gang anymore. And when you ask them why, I remember one, I remember the news outlet that made this, but it's a very well-known news outlet that made this interview with a gang member in person. We allowed them to go into prisons and do the interviews.