 And people just don't know it, and they don't do it. And they're like, oh, it's got to look brilliant, and that's all that matters is it's got to be brilliant. Well, brilliance is a process. And if you do not adhere to some of the basic science in that process, your lawn is always going to be just mediocre. All right, then. Let's take a quick break. Be back in a few minutes. We're visiting with Mr. Alex Grover with Utah's Best Gardening. When we come back, we're talking about planting in the summer heat.