 the actual chiasms in the Book of Mormon because you get the whole thing there. Another place, of course, would be, at least in pieces or examples, would be in any of the writings that Jack Welch has produced over the years about chiasmus in the Book of Mormon or his story about finding it as a missionary. Those are all great, great stories. Yeah, there's a YouTube video where John, or I call him Jack if you know him,