 Well, we were just talking about James Clyburn. So let's read James Clyburn because we got a couple more James Clyburn here. He was on CNN. And here's the problem is that when the 16 experts went up to Camp David with Joe Biden to prep him for the big debate, well, something went terribly wrong. For him to go into preparation and what I've been calling this a classic example of preparation overload.