 and all this ghostly stuff you talked about, and he looked at me, he kind of smirked. He goes, kid, I was, you know, involved in this stuff for many, many years since I was a kid. He said, let me tell you, this stuff is real. I think he started recounting some more stories to me, and the thing was, there was a guy with him and Lorraine, a young man, he was probably a couple years older than me, and he was sitting next to Ed with a yellow notepad, and I didn't know who he was, and then