 about 50-pound rucksacks on our backs, plus our equipment and our weapons. And one of the guys was saying, if this builds character, how much more character do I need? Nowadays, it's an activity. I'm sorry? No, go ahead. It's an activity. Keep saying. Nowadays, yes, there are actually clubs and different resources where people do the go-ruck thing, that sort of thing. And I would recommend that because you can throw a rucksack on your back and march down the street