 Well, listen, you take a look at the difference in VP nominees now. Kamala Harris, who cackles and laughs her way through various serious moments in history. And J.D. Vance, who is serious all the time and brings enormous gravitas and yet a youthful energy. One of the things that I learned in the last couple weeks that I was talking to campaign sources about why J.D. Vance was at the top of the list was that he translated really well to young people. He's one of the youngest vice presidents and nominees in the history of this country.