 And I thought he grew tired of me, his depression, and he said, well, everything that is made by humans needs maintenance. I mean, of course, if we just leave the wall there, it will fall in 10, 20, 30 years. But if we give maintenance to the wall, the wall won't fall. Right? So that is stuck in me, not because of the wall itself, but because everything is like that. Yes. In a relationship, at a plant, at home. Yes, that's right.