 So when we're talking about palliative things that can be done, we'd really like you to take the time to imagine all the things that make you feel good. If it's working in the garden, then that's your palliative. If it's being able to see and talk to your grandchildren, and that's your palliative, we can try and help that happen for you. So it's the wide range. But on the COPD, there are some standards and levels that are needed, and certainly the first is that