 on top of the 2007-2008 crisis, which cost $27 trillion. And there was another $20 trillion that went into bailing out the banks while he was president. And at the same time, the stock market was going up as these corporations couldn't pay their operating expenses without borrowing the so-called, what they call the repurchase window of the New York Fed. So the fact that neither one of them discussed that policy, I think, is significant.