 playing into november the fifth is it a big deal or is it just about who picks up the the baton in four years time i think it's it's a combination again and i will say this uh and this is not to be disparaging of any vice president uh but the bar is not that high they're going against kamala harris right so the bar is not high they don't have to be you know that impressive but i think that he will choose someone who is impressive and i think i believe he's got to diversify the ticket i think that's important