 that if you go his route you're probably uh... more likely to get there there was when he did it no question today here's what happens is the progression you get in you make really good money you're not saddled with student loan debt you learn a skill you get really good at it you keep moving up the ladder and also an opportunity pops up to where you can start your own business and now you're you're like a dave where your best year you make eight hundred thousand dollars and you're also a small business employer