 popped out of, I started talking about Leap and how this wonderful foundation, I talked about how Bill Dorfman started this entire training, and he was a kid in the room, and just a shining star at that moment, and he picked up on me, I picked up on him, and he came to my studio to do what I do in a studio called Forbes Factor Live, was a bright star there, and now, seven years later, there's Mr. Mario Padilla.