 yeah so i guess the the summary is um i was raised by my grandparents and they were you know working class people my grandfather worked at a steel mill and if you back up a little bit my grandparents grew up in southeastern kentucky coal country right so the sort of the deep poverty you think you know john f kennedy's showing up on the the cabins of people who were extremely poor back in the 1960s that's where they came from and they moved to southwestern ohio in the 1950s because that was sort of land of opportunity