 But you're saying that even in five years, you've seen, in other words, people who... Why were they tearing down statues of Christopher Columbus and Abraham Lincoln? They tore down one Frederick Douglass statue, I think, by mistake. I was defending Confederate statues because I was saying we should not be sandblasting our history. If you want, put up a statue of an abolitionist across from the Confederate statue and have plaques explaining it.