 one that has to be thrashed out, because since 9-11 we've been under the existence of a police state theory, basically that the government has the right to spy on everything, the so-called metadata collection that Snowden warned us about. It's real. It's been going on. I've had the chance to talk with Bill Binney, for example, on a number of occasions, the former NSA technical director, who was a whistleblower