 Uh, Bob Gibson, Hank Aaron said, you know, during my time, if that pill was available, he goes, I'm not, he goes, we're all looking for an edge, you know? And then Joe Morgan said, he goes, Oh my gosh, I've always accused Bob Gibson is, you know, in the league is doing steroids before anybody, because he was so mean on the pitchers, man. He goes, you got in the batter's box. You know, you didn't want to look at the guy.