 This is coming to a head, I think, sooner than later. If that interview goes badly and we're going to be monitoring it for any kind of scrutiny that maybe other past Biden interviews didn't get, the show he's competent and can actually speak clearly about the issues of the day. If he struggles, that might further the momentum to what Harold and Trey are talking about. Elected officials are not going to want to be running on a ticket with a