 it's a watch a lot of all the family yeah i don't think you've seen i've seen actually it's quite good i was hoping that the i'm blanking on the guy's name but he was basically a kind of a pastor type who would sort of delve into questions in the bible and other oh heiser yeah heiser michael heiser right right right he was great he passed away sadly last year of cancer very suddenly yeah i did not know he was kind of the only person that was brave enough to take on those subjects i feel like uh... and a podcast like you know kind of like that