 symbols and all kinds of different things of the occult and watching it is kind of a strange experience if you're really looking with spiritual eyes to the things of this world and so a lot of people were commenting on that and we did comment on that in the first hour so go back and listen to the first hour we do have a caller for you we'll take a couple of calls while Gary's on because we have a lot of ground to cover caller you're on with Gary Wayne go right ahead hi Kate this is Mike hi Gary hi