 you would really be starting to vet these candidates at a very late stage. So I still think it's ultimately going to be Biden, but I can't say that with 100% at all. And I think for Biden to step aside, it's going to have to be his most trusted people. I mentioned already Pelosi and Clyburn, Ron Klain. And then ultimately, I think it's going to have to be First Lady Jill Biden to say, hey,