 It was back in the 80s, I think 1987, 1988 is when he got started. And actually it was really an investigation into the Supreme Court decision from 62 and 63 where Abington, Shemp, Murray, Curlette, where they said that really we shouldn't have the Bible in schools. The year before they said no prayer in schools. And what they had said was the founding fathers never intended for the Bible or prayer to be in schools because they wanted there to be a separation of church and state.