 This is Professor Stuart Diamond of the Wharton School of Business. You're listening to Legends of Success with John Risner. We're visiting today with Cliff Hudson, the chairman and CEO of America's number one leading and largest drive-in restaurant business. And next week, folks, we're going to meet Ronald Buddy McClain, who started flipping burgers at Sonic in his 20s, in his early 20s, and now...