 So they're in an elevated position, and then they're looking at a building that is almost, if not quite, the same height that has a pitched roof on the backside, too. So it's just like walking up a hill. I can't see you until you get far enough up on the hill where I can see over it and see your top of your head walking up. And they show this guy, obviously, he's laying down and calling up. So as far as a visual representation in a straight-line distance,