 He didn't know what to think. So I said to him, I said, that call that you're arguing about is right. I'll bet the farm on that. I said, the call that I missed 10 minutes ago, you didn't even see. So I did the psychological thing to them. And I would finally, since I was working in war theaters, if someone argued a call, I would calmly look at them and say, it doesn't matter.