 I mean, where do you get this from just being a lawyer? You know, this is something where you're brought in, you're invited in, look, we'll make you wealthy, join this venture capital firm, and we'll train you. While at Revolution, he overlapped with Ron Klain, who would later become President Biden's first chief of staff. So he's surrounded by leftists. Two years later, he left Revolution to co-found a Cincinnati-based firm called Narya Ventures with former Ms. Ruhle colleague Colin Greenspawn.