 And then two or three years after that, he goes back to the first guy again, who now is hungry for the job. And so he goes in, does everything he needs to, and then he starts letting it slide. And this is something that I see a lot of. And what causes the problem is the short term. Oh, I'm going to get the job now, and then I'm not going to worry about the long term. I'll just get through it. And