 The managerial sides of it, you could pick up from having a good bench coach, from having a good support system, having a good phone of friends. But you've got to have that communication skill. That'll be the big question about Redick. We haven't seen that, right? We've heard both sides of it from when he was a player. We knew Dave Roberts was that guy. I knew Alex Cora was that guy. And similarly, Steven Vogt falls into that category. All right. What is going to decide?