 Whatever substance. So, well, that really shocked me. And that was why I was so enthusiastic about the action of Willem. And as I said, well, we need to take this to a much higher level. We need to take this to a European level because every European citizen is being exposed to something they shouldn't be exposed to. For others, it was the breaking news story about Pfizer executive Janine Small, who admitted under oath that the COVID vaccines were not even tested on preventing transmission.