 The Khmer Rouge came out to his village and shot his parents and shot anyone with an education. His father was a schoolteacher, shot. And then they kidnapped him. He was 12 years old and literally put a gun to his head and said, you either join our guerrilla movement or we shoot you. So, of course, he did it. And, you know, he had to plant landmines. He carried a gun. I asked him, how many gun battles were you in? He said, I don't know, at least 15.