 And I've been playing this game for long enough that I just think it's time that we cut back on the amount of turf that we have. Notice I didn't say get rid of it all. I will say that on occasion, but I know that's not realistic. People are not ready to give up the turf, and I get that. It's a beloved tradition, which I don't get, but it's a beloved tradition, and I accept that. And so people are going to want it. But we can do so much by just having less turf