 we wouldn't be debt-free, and we want to live debt-free. So we do go see them, so that's not a problem. So buy some airline tickets and just head over there, and life's good. I really, I mean, you could go. You've got a copy of the trust. You could go get legal advice, and it depends on how it's worded, honestly. The weird thing about an irrevocable trust is it may be revocable.