 Because I, so I got the call and the first thing I started doing was looking for Erica's number because I didn't know that. So I'm like, and I'm like, why do I have that? I oddly called Charlie and picked up and I didn't think he was going to pick up. And then I called Andrew and he was like, Charlie already knows him. So for people who don't know that Charlie is usually completely incommunicado, completely dark on Saturdays.