 paper ballots I brought up the paper ballots thing earlier and I think that it's going to take a long time for us to put that toothpaste back in the tube because I think everybody likes the ease and the technology of electronic voting but if trust is eroding in electronic voting there may be just a big push to kick it old school go back to paper ballots one more for this segment we are in Minnesota Larry in for Dr. Gorka Mark Davis how are you