 I want you guys to always remember that. It's a 501c3 at the end of the day, and the person who can fundraise the best, get more money in, and have a bigger church. And I think that Carl Lentz, T.D. Jakes, I think T.D. Jakes actually started off genuine. What's his name? Joe Osteen. All these people are fundraisers. I don't think they were called.