 Cam Commando started this business however many years ago. No debt, no investors. All of this is us. And people are really impressed by that. Well, you know, because it's hard. I mean, it's very difficult. I read this story about Apple. I don't know if you know this story. But of course, we all know in 1976, Apple started in a garage with Steve Jobs, right? Yep. But what you may not know, I just learned this the other day, is that in order to come up with the money to start Apple,