 So they thought that they could persuade Joe to go ahead and step down. Well, they evidently handled it the wrong way because he's entrenched now that he's not going anywhere. And remember, he is the president. One of the things you have to remember about this, John, people say, oh, well, we're going to vote the 25th. I'll take care of it. The 25th is not that easy because it would call for the removal of the president. The 25th Amendment...