 this is a guy who actually during the iraq war was embedded with the military and actually fought with a marine rifle platoon during the battle of fallujah uh... so this is a guy who is seeing combat and i wanted to have pat on today because we know there's all this news going on it's kind of uh... unsettling and disconcerting but we are celebrating america's independence tomorrow and i thought pat would be a great guy that could help us bridge and understand independence means we declared our independence