 You're listening to KTalk Radio, KVJA 1640 AM. People are starting to wake up in Europe in the sense of leadership that they don't have to be bullied by NATO. Remember, Trump wanted to get out of NATO. He wanted to stop NATO. He knew that if the U.S. got out of NATO, NATO would be over with. And then remember what he did? He went to the nations in Europe and said, you guys start paying up.