 and tried to interview him, and he just kept putting up his hand, you know, go away, go away. These guys, but the question is how good are they at this? What did you see at the debates? We don't know if it was him or not. The next morning it was a different person again. It was a strong person with a strong voice. We don't know what's going on here. They've got an agenda, and they're trying to get out of putting him back in, but what part of the agenda are they filling with that?