 Well, him and I, we've been friends for a very, very long time, so... Oh, I gotta hear the details. No, you don't. That's for a whole nother time. I don't hear Dan Reeves. Hey, every rose has its thorn. Yes, it does, but no, you don't need to hear that story, Dan Reeves, no. When did you meet Brett Michaels? Oh, when he was the judge of Nashville Star. Okay. That's been... How did you meet him?