 Back in 2016, it has been eight years. Did you ever once tire of the process? That is a very long time to work on one project. But it shows, though. Every minute that you put into that beautiful sculpture just shows. That's the thing. It's like we're not making art anymore that people want to pay attention to. And it's like that's why art's fallen off the map. So it's like I've been doing this for 40 years.