 Not a lot of people in their late 70s, 80s, 90s working in the White House. Now, they're saying, oh, well, people, you know, like military members who have TDI or something like that. Okay, that's basically their excuse, right? That's what they've been saying, or that's their rationale for why this guy was there. But Berenson was on the show. New York Times breaks...