 But if anything, that interview was a microcosm of his presidency. The debate was a complete and utter disaster. Everybody knows it, but he's just said it was a bad day, and that doesn't mean anything. That's what's happened with every major crisis during his presidency. I think that there are still Democrat members, from what I hear, that list is growing, who want him to step down. So this is a problem of the Democrats, basically, that they created by themselves with the media.