 And this ripple effect of her life, you know, she only knew people one and two. She did not know anybody beyond person two. And yet her life had impacted. And then she got this perspective of this moment when she was abused as a little girl. The person that was abusing her, she saw that person's story and how that person had endured abuse. And it was not to wipe away that moment or to forgive it or to justify it.