 I was literally told you're never going to get famous from, you know, you can't go straight to Broadway because you're just going to understudy a soap opera star. You really have to go try to do something else in your career and then you can come back to Broadway because you have to be able to sell tickets to the show. That's what I believed when I got out of college in the 90s. And what I love about the world I live in and just life in general for anybody is that it is always surprising.