 In interviewing some other SEALs over the years, a lot of them have known from a very young age, this is really what I want to do. What was that moment for you? How old were you? And how did that idea come to your mind that you wanted to join the Navy and pursue becoming a SEAL? Well, again, about my grandfather, when I was seven, he took me for a ride in a Cessna. And I was like, oh, I want to be a pilot. That was it. And then that got reinforced when I saw Top Gun when I was in high school. I was like...