 Yeah, I think he was really a restaurateur. He was already in the restaurant business before he got into what became the Sonic business. I never have sensed about Troy, and if I look back to the business originally, he really was not a promoter style of person. It was in the late 50s that he met a fellow by the name of Charlie Pappy, who also happened to have a drive-in more in western Oklahoma. Mm-hmm.