 no television producer in the world could ever equal. And you picture Abe Lincoln on the other end of the phone. The audience supplied an awful lot of the material. I mean, your first record was a Grammy winner. Well, you know, it's interesting. When the record began to sell, I got a call to go into New York to do the David Susskind show. And it was about comedians. And there was Buddy Hackett, and there was Alan King,