 went to these markets like Binance to try and have some sort of way of protecting whatever their nest egg was. And so that's the way it's being used a lot in developing countries. We use it some here, but not in the same kind of volume that they do in countries where their currency seems unstable and they're trying to find some way to protect whatever their nest egg is. Well, returning to the person who's at the center of your reporting, you spoke to Tigran Gambarian's wife, Yuki, and here's what she had to say.