 Okay, so this is a good point. Richard Polsky, I appreciate your listening along with me to Sebastian here. That was very interesting. I want to bring you back in here, because especially he made this point about there's a lot of art these days, or in fact for several decades, that's been perhaps less about the craft and skill of the artist and more about the idea that the artist is trying to advance, which then makes things like, oh my God, I'm going to make people mad, but Jeff Koontz's Silver Bunny worth a lot, or...