 Not as far as being aroused, there was one time when I'd just say, okay, this is stupid, this is really never going to happen again. There's multiple recordings of us having conversations with him and with him admitting to, surprisingly, quite a bit. And my mom always says to this day that it was a miracle that she ever got that first recording because she had no idea how to record on her phone. And she looked down and she just was randomly trying to push some things and she realized she was recording something.