 Yeah. So what we start with is we usually start with consulting with management from a perspective of what are they seeing and hearing? We also want to help identify what are the outcomes? What are the intended outcomes of this? And that's important because if one of the intended outcomes is we want both parties to agree, we either have to kind of help them realign that outcome because that's not the goal. The goal is not to get parties to agree. The goal is really, it's a beginning point for improved group functioning and