 He's the director of Pinellas Technical College in Clearwater, Florida. Kathy Hughes, a principal researcher with a focus on career and technical education at American Institutes for Research. And Darnell Epps, the founder and CEO of Thurgood Industries. That's a networking platform for skilled workers. He's also a recent graduate of Yale Law School and Lincoln Technical Institute. We're also hearing from you. This is Jeff in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I have a bachelor's degree and a master's degree in