 manipulated a physical object in front of witnesses, and then perhaps the witnesses later on recorded, like, poltergeistic, you know, effects. Poltergeist-like activity. Oh, there's a really good one. That's a good one. Donna? Yes, I'm happy to address that. I'm not, I don't have the answers. I'm still pursuing this, as we all are. But it seems that anything in direct contact with the person, if they're holding it,