 We weren't great, but we could fill up the sweetheart balls and things like that that we played for for high schools. And we'd play out at Edwards Resort, underage, but we'd go out there. That's at Lake Ponsett, and they would always have live music, and we were regulars out there. And so we traveled. But anyway, I was this background, and it led to after I graduated and I started playing around here in country bands, playing drums then.