 pretty guarded but you know there's always moments when you can just kind of talk to them whatever and I've had more cool like oh my gosh I can't believe I am coming face to face with this person who I watched their show when I was a kid or they sing a song that I like or it's just amazing that you meet these people and most of them I will tell you most people are a lot more shy than you think not shy but more like introverted like you think just because you're a celebrity they're like sitting there telling jokes and stuff they're not Bobo I know you want to say something