 minor child status you know let them be 18 and then figure out what they want to do but i don't think we should be doing this to kids my opinion maybe it's controversial so i want to get an update on what's going on with the whistleblower from the texas children's hospital from our guest maddie rowley she is with manhattan institute she's the logos fellow and an investigative reporter maddie welcome thanks so much for having me rich i'm happy to be here