 Good morning. Thank you for having me. Joining us in studio is Kathy Hughes. She's a researcher with a focus on career and technical education at American Institutes for Research. Kathy, welcome. Hi. Thank you so much. And Darnell Epps is the founder and CEO of Thurgood Industries. That's a networking platform for skilled workers. He's also a recent graduate of Yale Law School and Lincoln Technical Institute. Darnell, welcome to the program. Thank you. Good morning. I appreciate it.