 The Hechinger Report is a national nonprofit newsroom reporting on education. Several stories they published earlier this year shed light on this uptick in closures and explores what happened in the aftermath of a sudden college shutdown. Joining me now are two reporters from the Hechinger Report. Meredith Kalotner is a senior investigations reporter. She joins me from Brooklyn. Meredith, welcome to the program. Thanks so much for having me. And with us from Maine is John Marcus, senior higher education reporter. John, welcome.