 and then make it to Yale Law School. Now, at the time, I probably looked at Ivy League schools a lot differently than I do now, like so many other parents. I know parents that thought that their dream was to send their kids to an Ivy League school. They're all looking south now. They're looking at UVA. They're looking at UNC. They're looking at Vanderbilt and Wake Forest and all these other great institutions that are available.