 and she has a weekly radio program. Ellie is also transgender and the author of Getting to Ellen, a memoir about love, honesty, and gender change. NPR's senior economics contributor, our friend Chris Farrell, recently sat down with Ellie, and he's here in studio to talk about the visit. It's nice to see you, actually. It's good to be here. Yeah. I can only imagine that this was a very interesting conversation. What an engaged life. Oh, I'll say. It was great.