 This is Fresh Air. Let's get back to my interview with Richard Behar, author of the new book, Madoff, The Final Word. Behar is a financial investigative journalist and a contributing editor at Forbes magazine. So I have one more tape excerpt that I want to play. And thank you for sending us these excerpts of your interviews with Bernie Madoff while he was in prison. Thank you. Thank you for playing them. There are other excerpts in the audio book. Oh, that's great. That's great to know.