 And if you don't believe it, go to TMZ, the gossipy Hollywood site, because it was a TMZ person who caught Stephanopoulos. And I don't even know if it was a hidden camera. It may have been a hidden camera. These TMZ guys, they get people in the streets, public figures, and they do interviews with them and all that. And you can do that now with a phone or whatever. I don't know that it was a hidden camera.