 permanently, and it's more intense suffering for them. They never want to go back there. They'd rather roam around the world. And you have examples of that in the Christian Bible, in the demons who possessed these people that Christ exorcised. They said, please, please put us into these swine. Remember the incident of the Gerasene swine art? They had the whole, it was a hog farm, obviously, and it was a whole flock of hogs.