 uh experiments like that do you have anything like that guys i've heard of that too what have you heard yeah i've i've heard of it we we couldn't dig up anything um concrete i guess for the film but you know there's so many interesting cases out there and i think there's it's worth exploring i'm sure there's a follow-up that could be had a very good follow-up you guys are great jason steven it was a pleasure having you both on the program and again