 So one of the issues was the amount of money he was using, his personal assets he was using to finance this new project he's got called Horizon, which pulled him out of Yellowstone and all of that. And I wasn't aware of this at the time. Nobody talked about this. But one of his children by Ms. Baumgartner, he has a 15-year-old son. I think his name is Hayes or something like that.