 they did um because as you know napoleon always said he took his advice from his generals one by one because they couldn't influence each other they couldn't and they all had to be honest and so the ones who want to stay were honest and the ones who wanted to go and i think you need a bit of that you need that or the orchestration is the point a word to you both about sort of current work and john i'll come back to you on some of the stuff you've written about the election in a moment more in common aminka the work you do as a board member there tell us briefly about that