 That's correct. You got it. And after a few short years, that partnership, although it was a good partnership, it didn't sustain long-term. Tell me what happened, Cliff. Well, they did have very good complementary personality styles with Troy focusing on operations, with Charlie focusing a little bit more on expansion and a little bit more of a salesman orientation. They grew for a number of years into the mid-'60s, and then unfortunately Charlie Pappy passed away in the mid-'60s.