 And I think in those scenarios, the most important thing for you to remember is the impact and the power you hold as a loved one of that person who's going down that path. We need to be able to have conversations with those people, and in that context, it's so important not to ridicule them, not to be judgmental, but to actually listen, to be someone that they feel they can come to, especially when they find out that they were wrong. And when they realize that they're wrong, they need to be able to come back without feeling shame.