 You know, the race that he ran, we had him on before the race. We've had him on a number of times. And I had him on after the debate in Atlanta. And he was there. And I had time to speak with him both on air and off the air. And I've had a couple of private conversations with him because his name has been out there as a potential VP pick. And I just didn't know as much about him. And he is, what, a two-year senator.