 Uh, when we would do conventions and stuff together, uh, you know, we, I had to sort of look after Bob a little bit, you know, we all did. Um, and, uh, so I, I got to know Bob very, I got to be very close with Bob and it was, uh, it was a gift, you know, um, you know, uh, helping Bob and his family, uh, to his, um, final years.