 And you get a reputation. I did the Founders Cup, which is the amateur championship of Ohio. And then I did the National Men's and Women's Championship in Blaine, Minnesota. And you get rated by the coaches and players. You get assigned games. And then finally, from the amateurs, I went into the professional leagues, which were starting. They didn't exist, really. The United States Independent Soccer League was founded in my era. So it's all about timing.