 by further changing current social norms and career expectations among younger generations. All right. DEI programs that have become controversial due to the work of critics. Marketplace's senior economics contributor, Chris Farrell. Thank you. Thanks a lot, David. Again, bonds are down this morning. The 10-year interest rate up a bit, 4.22%. I'm David Brancaccio. This is the Marketplace Morning Report from APM, American Public Media.