 uh people are finding success and we want to be part of that solution so to answer your question we have business owners and our members at the chamber who desperately want to see solutions to this as well but they also want their staff to feel safe they want their customers to feel safe we want to make sure those visitors come to keep coming to live and feel safe as well so there's two sides to every story but at the same time there's a lot that kind of unifies us so i think there's solutions there but as you can understand i'd hope is that you know from a downtown business perspective