 The war would stop for a while on Christmas Day, and as he said, some of them were exchanging gifts. Then they had to turn around and fight each other. Such craziness, but you know, when it comes down to all of it, and this is one of the things that Sabin Howard, the sculptor that's going to be on later today, that Kelsey and I were talking about, but one of the things that he said, it's just about good leadership. People with good leadership...