 that we're going back to the 60s now, until it was sold, or until it left the studio for an exhibition. Okay, he did that to prevent theft, because his factory was a pretty wild place in the 60s, and a lot of things went missing, all right? So anyway, as you fast forward, when he died, this would have been 1987, all right? He had a business manager named Fred Hughes, who I met once, very cool guy.