 All right. Well, our time is up for the hour, but I appreciate our guests helping us get a much better understanding about the bail system. And I want to thank our guests who've been joining us and our listeners who phoned in as well. We've been talking with Justin Terrell, who is the executive director of the Minnesota Justice Research Center, which is a nonprofit that conducts research to inform and advocate for reforms in the criminal legal system. And we'll put a link to their site on our website at NPR News dot org. So you can learn more about the locations and dates of their listening sessions. But there is one tonight.