 they're wary of calling something unofficial. They do say if it's unofficial, there's no immunity. But the court says it's hard to know what's official or unofficial. Motive doesn't matter in deciding what's official or unofficial. In other words, you don't ask why is the president talking to someone, just the fact that he's talking to that person. And in going after unofficial conduct, you can't use any evidence of immune conduct. In other words,