 So I don't think it's a lot of debt, but I don't think it's the big fire and exploding thing that you think it is in your head. I think that if you guys get on a simple budget and you live on $80,000 instead of $100,000, you're knocking this debt out super fast. That's if you just, okay, we're going to cut back. But if you really got crazy, you'd knock this out very quickly.