 And my other comment is your guest mentioned about Flatliners. And I just watched that original Flatliners, the good one with Julia Roberts about a week ago. It's very weird that you have this topic tonight. But my question for your guest is, did they at all read the book called The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker? And I'll hang up and I'll listen to what your guest has to say. Thank you. The Denial of Death. Have you heard of that book?