 So it's something to think about. But where do they go from here? If Joe Biden's not going to be the nominee, who's it going to be? I've heard everything from Michelle Obama to Kamala Harris to Gavin Newsom to Gretchen Whitmer and so on and so forth. But who are they going to end up being stuck with if Biden inevitably leaves the campaign trail? We'll get into that next. I'm Leland Conway for Joe Paggs on The Joe Paggs Show.