 And so I hope to that degree, I think it was great to have his granddaughter out there to humanize him. Agreed. To see that he's a father, he's a grandfather. I think that stuff's great. That looks great for him. She was pretty sharp at the age of 17 years old. Can you imagine that getting up in front of the national cameras and that auditorium at the age of 17? And, man, she was incredible, I thought.