 My sincerest thanks to Zoe Clark, Steve Clemons, and Idris Kulun for joining us this hour. Such a big help. I feel a little better. I can make a little more sense of it. Mike Kidd is 1A's sound designer and engineer. Barbara Anguiano produces our podcast. Chris Castano is our digital editor. This program comes to you from WAMU, part of American University in Washington, distributed by NPR. Have a great weekend, everybody. I'm Todd Zwilich. This is 1A.