 But I certainly don't support this extreme abortion, late-term abortion, up-to-birth constitutional amendment. So the more people learn about this amendment, the more they reject it, and that's why it's so, so, so important for everybody to spread the word. John Hanson is my guest. John is a state lawmaker. He's also with the Life Defense Fund, and they are pushing back against the judge's ruling earlier this week dismissing a lawsuit brought by the Life Defense Fund.