 But let me tell you something. If the agency, if the wildlife agency has a view on the Washington Western gray squirrel and whether it's a distinct population, they're going to have the expertise they're going to put in. They're going to show here's how the DNA differs. Here's how the behavior differs. They're still going to get what we call kind of skid more respect for their views. The courts aren't going to go now. I'm going to go go on a fact finding tour of science. That's not how it works.