 Additional funding provided by the James F. and Marian L. Miller Foundation. LiveWire was created by Robin Tenenbaum and Kate Sokoloff. This week, we would like to thank members Carol Gabrielli and Vicki Reitenauer of Portland, Oregon. For more information about our show or how you can listen to our podcast, head on over to LiveWireRadio.org. I'm Luke Burbank. For Elena Passarello and the whole LiveWire team, thank you for listening, and we will see you next week.