 We're going to do it in my office at Carswell Army Airfield in Fort Worth. So Marcel is ordered onto a B-29 bomber. It was called Dave's Dream. They loaded up some of the wreckage. They fly over to Fort Worth. And Marcel would describe how he took a box of wreckage and put it on General Ramey's desk. Ramey then took him to a map room to check out the location.