 He's delivered, or certainly what they don't want is another Trump presidency. So that's the kind of debate they've been having. And they said, look, there's been shouting matches at Thanksgiving. They talk about it almost every time they meet. Right now they're agreeing to disagree on what to do about it in November. But again, I think it's many families. And you see it, by the way, within Jewish families as well. We've interviewed Jewish voters at the Wall Street Journal where