 right now and i'm worried that too many shots at kamala about insulting you know her her sex life or even her gender or race i'm just worried it's going to turn them off it makes trump supporters excited energized but if we're looking to bring an independence into the fold i'm not sure how helpful it is well tommy i'm sure you remember the movie old school i feel a little bit like james carville when he's supposed to uh debate frank the tank and he just has to say that was perfect