 Well, it's not a surprise at this point. If you watch the Stephanopoulos interview or listen to it, depending on what you did, he made it pretty clear that he still thinks he's the best candidate to be able to take on Trump. He feels that he is up for the campaign. And so there's absolutely no indication at this point that he's willing to step down. And that's critical because for people such as the person who had on just a couple of minutes ago, I mean, right now, Biden has enough delegates to win on the first round.