 Age only goes one direction. And this is somebody who's 86 years old, which is, of course, about the age that Joe Biden would be at the second term. I had a lot of conversations along those ways. And it was interesting because Biden has been saying these aren't swing state voters. And sure, I only talked to a half dozen or so. And you can't extrapolate too much. But these are people who I had conversations with in the fall. And I could hear how they have changed their mind and how the top issue to any of these people is no longer Trump or the economy or immigration. It is Joe Biden's age and ability to do the job as president.