 We are at the Patricia Valian Research Center for the Creative Arts at Oregon State University in Corvallis this week. We're talking to Hanif Abdurraqib about his latest book, There's Always This Year, on basketball and ascension. If you were from most places, maybe it would have featured Michael Jordan a lot. But you're not from most places. You're from Ohio. So it features LeBron James a lot, who you would watch in high school. Yeah.