 who tried very hard to hold Nixon to account in a straw poll voting to indict him, had that idea too. A president commits a crime, a very simple idea. I spoke to a couple of these jurors who are still alive, and their idea was a president commits a crime like anyone else should be held to an account. And throughout American history, I argue, there's been that tension between an authoritarian idea of the presidency and the Constitution, really, and a much more democratic one. Well, we played that audio of the president