 So, Mike, I mean, I'm experiencing that for my own extended family, what they're seeing out there. I'm just wondering to what degree also when you're the CEO of Mike Rowe Works Foundation, you're encouraging young people to go into this, but entrepreneurship, small business ownership, I mean, it's been my experience from people I know, some of whom have become very successful business owners, that a lot of them start by working for a business in the trades.