 And so I got a phone call from Mark Burnett, the guy who is the creator of reality TV, Survivor and The Apprentice and several very successful shows like that. And he was just getting started. He just finished his first season of Survivor and came up with a concept where he wanted to do a competition using former military and law enforcement, create four teams, and we compete against each other. And so I got a call to be part of that. It was called Combat Missions. I think it was in 2001.