 You know, they had another conversation about like, well, you're the convener. She you know, the vice president is the one who keeps tabs on the family and brings people together. And he's like, is this my job now? You know, like those are those are new conversations. And but I do think and writ large, I think we view male spouses as sort of, you know, novelty still. And they're not scrutinized in the way that women are.