 good-looking people are supposed to look. And I think it distracts from the actual pleasure of clothing. So I love seeing fashion in museums because it gets rid of a lot of those hang-ups. And I saw an exhibit when I was 16 years old at the de Young Museum in San Francisco about the work of Vivienne Westwood. And I'd never heard of her before. And that's when I was like, oh my God, she designed punk. And punk was...