 These state delegations, there's going to be a retail element of the politics. And the two things that I think are really important should be making your pick on vice president, which obviously would be crucial. But what's so crucial about that, and this is going to give her an opportunity or potentially others who get in, we have an anti-Trump message. We know we don't like Trump. But the challenge for the Democrats in this campaign is to speak to a lot of folks who are skeptical of the Democrats.