 groups that have joined on this uh this effort to uh you know fight against the the food tax thing i think there's a way to fix it but to fight against it is just you know come with an answer don't come with just beating something down because you like the way things are now doug somke south dakota farmers union president i have a hunch we'll talk again soon thanks beth carla hoffhenke do you want to introduce carla for us this morning shelby