 that is super determined and he's a citizen soldier like everybody else. He, he was a, you know, he, he, he had a river boat at Gallipolis, Ohio that he ran. And he was a, he also had a carriage that he delivered things, but it's, it's in 1863 that in the, in the fall of 18, September, 1863, that there's a problem in West Virginia. There's,