 So he is a relative newcomer to politics. He's young, he's only 39 years old. He got his claim to fame as he wrote this best selling book called Hillbilly Elegy. And this is a book that people really flock to in 2016 after the election of Donald Trump. And this really walks through and kind of explains a lot of the economic pain and that people were feeling in Ohio and other parts of Appalachia. And this is something that kind of helped open a lot of people's eyes to this.