 Yeah. So he was somebody who had been at the company Synchrony Financial, that's a credit card issuer, for about 10 years. And he'd been in his current position almost two years. And he said he was just starting to look for something different. And so he ended up moving from an operations position to a 90-day engineering role. And he said it's almost as if he's a new employee. He's getting onboarded. He's learning a brand new team. And of course, he knows the company, so it comes in a little bit easier. But he said it's been...