 What does science say about this, though, Doug? Well, you know, there's the people who are the critics of metaphysics, right? And a lot of those people would be labeled as scientism, right? It's kind of like a religious belief in classical physics. Pseudoscience. Well, there's scientism. It's like there are scientists who say, no, this phenomena can't exist, right? And so they believe that they're the gatekeeper of all science, right?