 And I said, well, that must be really interesting. And he said, yeah. And, you know, we got to talking and he goes, yeah, you know, Charles Manson's on my like he's in my facility. And I said, you're kidding me. And he goes, no. I said, well, do you ever talk to him? He goes, yeah. He is one of the most charismatic and brilliant people I've ever met.