 Hey there, welcome to LiveWire. I'm your host, Luke Burbank. We have a bespoke show for you this week in which we'll be speaking to Avery Truffleman about her podcast, Articles of Interest, which explores fashion and clothes and the impact that it all has on us, even if we don't identify as fashion people. Then we're going to talk to author Camille Dungy about her latest book, Soil, the story of a black mother's garden.