 They view Trump as such an evil that even violating their most fundamental principles of their work and quite honestly of themselves as people is absolutely what they believe is called upon in the situation. That's what they have. That they actually think that this is what they're supposed to do. That's how bad it is. You know what I mean? That's why there's no big change. This is why my thesis is all those people, and I desperately believe that this is true.