 Something where he's learning every day now. And he said he will go back to his old job with a new set of skills. He's done something different. He feels like he's stretching and growing and progressing. And so it can be really valuable. Thanks, Chip. Chip Cutter, reporter at The Wall Street Journal. 20 minutes now in front of the hour. On this morning, America's First News. Coming up next, a convenience store discovers its most loyal fan.