 combat historian as a volunteer and it was this is about 13 or 14 years ago and he asked me pat would you like to go visit the met i said how about we go visit the battle of brooklyn and it's really a a special thing to go to walk through history with somebody you've been in combat with and we walked through history and we went to um we went to the cemetery where the battle unfolded went through sort of the alleys of brooklyn and then we found another sign