 I know him long before he ever got into politics. I wish the person that I knew, everybody knew, he is by far one of the funniest people you will ever be around. When you compare stories with him, I mean, the exchanges we have and the way that we have them, it would shock the world. But when I'm not in work mode with him, because it's work time, I've got to do an interview. It's going to be a real interview.