 Most of them are still optimistic when you talk to them. You know, I think everybody is, you know, trying to be as optimistic as they can, even though it is down. So, but I think it's going to be a good year overall. And I think we were just talking out in the hall and, you know, on for our end and they were talking workforce. You know, the last couple of years, you're trying to keep your head above water.