 And then that's when I heard the pops that happened, which turned out to be gunshots. I'm not a gun owner, so I didn't immediately think that it was a gun. I thought it was some sort of vehicle or something like that. But when I saw him grimace and then grab his ear and then immediately pull his hand off his ear and there was blood on it, and then the next thing I knew, he was down behind the podium and I couldn't see him anymore.