 And I went and sat down, and then two minutes later, the bullets started. So, I mean, it was very possible. And the president said, after the fact, I talked to him the other day, he said, two minutes, you would have been right in the middle of it. And it was pretty clear to me as a military officer that this was gunfire. Pretty quick, I couldn't tell if it was one or two. I thought there might be two shooters. And I saw the president go down. I saw him grab his ear and go down. And the Secret Service was on top of him almost immediately.