 Like, it is hard to just explain the palpable joy. And I get to see that, like, I help make this happen for people, for the artists, for the audiences, for the kids, for the teachers, for the families. Gertz came to the Ordway about a year ago with two decades of arts programming at colleges and universities under her belt. Graduating with a degree in gender studies and theology, Gertz didn't have any experience with the arts when she entered the industry.