 But goats can be great pets, and a lot of people really love them as pets, as well as the milk production and all the herd management. So I personally haven't had goats, but I know a lot of people who really love them. In fact, at vet school, we had some goats that were really affectionate, and they always came up to the pasture fence, and we really bonded with them quite a bit. So they were pretty cool.