 and that is oh there's no culture there there's no there's no there there i i suffered all those years in los angeles with everybody at newsweek magazine in new york thinking there was no culture west of the hudson they were wrong and they were wrong about orlando too and joining me now is somebody who can put an end to that stereotype she's the president ceo of the dr phillips performing arts center kathy ranzberger kathy welcome hi peter and hi kathy i mean you've been doing this work for two decades