 Because you're not going to call your nephew the IT specialist at 3 in the morning when something happens where you need a plumber. Right. And I think the trades are very fulfilling. I have young people that I work with on other boards that are contractors, and they love it. I went to Votek for carpentry. That was my passion. That's what I wanted to do. But my dad had better ideas for me. But I enjoyed that trade, and I stole putts.