 I recognize that in people every time now. This is no fun. You're listening to Radio Law Talk. And now back to the show. All right, here we go. Let's see. Do we do case or no case, Carol? No, we're just starting it. All right, because Denise needs points. That's all I know. She wants some points. Pretty anxious about that. I know she is. All right, here we go. Now it's time to play case or no case. Yay!