 like Biden, who is more experienced at this kind of dispassionate debating. Clearly, CNN designed it in this way to give the edge to the Democrat candidate. So you have to understand the framework, the debate details favor Joe Biden in this regard. You have to give credit for Donald Trump. He is playing offense. He's unafraid to take the fight to Joe Biden. He is not playing prevent defense. This is not the, hey, go three safeties,