 And that maybe, and this is Machiavellian, they're going to sabotage, set him up by putting him out there. He's going to fail abysmally. And then they're going to say, oh, we have no other choice. When we come back, we're going to explore that possibility. I'm talking to Kimberly Guilfoyle, who coincidentally is the host of the Kimberly Guilfoyle show on Rumble. We'll be right back.