 Shaffer, she's organizing a nonprofit to help called Tailwinds Rental Assistance. The more we talk to people, the more we're like, wow, this is actually a pretty big issue. And it's a national. It's not just here in Salt Lake City and Utah. It's a national issue. They're going to help cover pet-related move-in fees in Utah that can cost up to hundreds of dollars. And how can you entertain cats in shelters?