 yeah it to have the perspective of watching what's happened at sig over the past 20 years you've seen it firsthand and i've been able to watch it um seeing it from other companies inside the industry as it was sort of building you're kind of starting to take notice and then you know i got here 10 years ago so i was able to kind of i i saw the build yeah and then when i got here it was a lot of it was in motion and and it was fun to be part of that motion of going from