 okay player he's a good player but he's not an nba caliber at this point right and i understand that and that's what i'm saying they make it seem like he was one of the greats i mean he went in the second round 55th pick i mean can we be honest here logically i mean and i'm not saying you know if this guy if if he's really trying to make this thing legit to have to really play with his son can you ask yourself rich do you see him um you know doing damage to the denver nuggets