 or jet zero with a new innovative design, somebody, I hope that's exactly the segment of aircraft they target. All right, if you're just joining us, we are talking with show friend Richard Abelafia. He's one of America's leading aviation analysts and managing director at Aerodynamic Advisory. So I want to talk about Southwest. CEO Bob Jordan is a show friend. We always appreciate when he joins us because our Texas trip was cut short. We didn't have a chance to visit with him. I'm not sure what would have happened anyway this time around since he has an activist investor on his hands looking to oust him.