 Okay, Fred, what's your sense? It's clearly a case, but the question is define when, I guess. If he gets any money at all. Yeah, I know. You've got to talk to him. If he gets any money at all. No, I get that. Yeah. The answer is I agree with my compadres here, but I want to know if I want to slide away from them and say he gets nothing. I'm going to say he gets nothing just to be different.