 One reason we're taught that there's this great gulf separating human beings from God is that that enables, in part, the employ of a professional class of religionists who are going to bridge that gulf for us. I think that's one of the key problems. Jesus was saying, you yourself can know the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17, 21, it's one of his great teachings. And it's found in corollary in every other world religion, too. The Atman concept, the Zoroastrian concept of the Frabeshi. Good evening, you're on KTOK with Vern Grimsley.