 yeah this is where we're at you're right and we are going to go down some of these rabbit holes like you and i did on saturday i think it'll be a fascinating conversation justin we're getting ready to take a break but you mentioned that you know we're plugged in we've seen this joe biden from day one and greg how much time do i have to enough time to set up 27 let me set the question up justin when we come back i'm going to go right to you and then we'll take it around the table guys but