 He was kind of gruff, but then they showed like a soft side to him. And he wasn't the star, but he's pretty close. I mean, he wasn't a bit of a role. He was kind of a significant role. I'll put him down, but I think for the reason he had too much time on the show, he probably will not make the final cut. The other one on Mary Tyler Moore was the guy that was the newscaster. Ted Baxter.