 at times and we have a yellow phase which is very distinctive especially if they're a brighter yellow phase they're hard to blend in they're hard to miss. And there are some that I've seen that have both colors the black and the yellow they're just unique and gorgeous snake and I got to tell you big difference for the folks that have never seen a timber rattler between the eastern diamondbacks you know I've seen snakes in Pennsylvania and around here my entire life and