 Well, if a kitten doesn't meet a person at all until it's eight or nine weeks old, it can be pretty difficult to turn around. At the time when their kind of social preferences are pretty much fixed after that. But it doesn't take a great deal of contact. I mean, literally, if just somebody goes up to the nest where the kittens are, maybe it's in a barn or something, and gives them a little stroke a few times before they're eight weeks of age,