 So how the heck did you get into dog food evaluation? Yes. I'm also a dog lover. Okay. And I have people that have asked me, I've spent a career in health care, and people, friends that know how much I love dogs are just shocked. They always ask the same question, how come you ended up being a dentist and not a veterinarian? And I actually am too emotionally involved with dogs that I think I would have made a very bad veterinarian.