 All right, if you're just joining us, we are talking with show friend Richard Abelafia. He's one of America's leading aviation analysts and managing director at Aerodynamic Advisory. So I want to talk about Southwest. CEO Bob Jordan is a show friend. We always appreciate when he joins us because our Texas trip was cut short. We didn't have a chance to visit with him. I'm not sure it would have happened anyway this time around since he has an activist investor on his hands looking to oust him.