 while getting four of their own. Yeah, and you kind of said it earlier, not that we're crashing overly hard, but we're finding the right spots. We're holding guys off on the right sides, and we're going after those offensive rebounds. They're coming to us. We're making it happen. And on the defensive end, we're talking, we're moving, we're communicating, we're attacking them as much as they're trying to attack us. And I kind of have a feeling that Duquesne went with that Trey Williams approach