 Traditionally, every single one of these debates happened post-convention, meaning the people had already secured the nomination. They were on the ticket. They were good to go. Now, Joe Biden, okay, is, of course, an incumbent president. He would presumably have the nomination if he makes it to August. But I got to tell you right now, there are a lot of rumblings in the Democratic Party about whether or not he should be in this race. Don't like it.