 kind of need me yeah a question to both of you because i know with swimmers and you know i've talked to natalie coughlin and and others like that there always seems to become a period in which there's going to be a burnout factor i mean you guys practice six days a week probably when you were kids maybe even seven days a week a lot of long hours you had to give up the things that other kids would normally involve themselves in tell me a little bit both of you from perspectives and jonathan i'll start with you and then jump in john a little bit about what that childhood aspect was as you grew up in gymnastics