 Let's go back to 2005. This full interview is about 15 minutes long, but this is Tony Stewart joined us at SEMA when we were on our speech. No, this is ESPN, wasn't it? 2005, probably ESPN. Let me see. No, this is Speed Channel. I see Tony Stewart's microphone here. This is when we were on Speed Channel where we did a 30-minute show on Saturday nights for Speed Channel.