 I don't know if that's an exaggeration, what the hell went on there. And it's been a few years now, and I can't recall if the money was being diverted to something else, or if it's being diverted is kind of the same as stealing, right? If it's not going to the intended purpose kind of thing. Yes, sir. I mean, did he have direct knowledge of it? You know, I don't know. I don't know. That's a pretty...