 You know, I mean, he was slick at times, but, I mean, couldn't beat Ali, couldn't beat Liston. I mean, those were the heavyweights of that era. And Floyd Patterson couldn't beat him, even though he was a two-time world heavyweight champion. And speaking of Patterson, the time he lost the title, the first time he lost the title to Inga Mario Hansen, I wasn't too much into boxing at this point in time because I was like, you know, a kid in diapers. But the bottom line is, Eddie Machen...