 are not going to come back from that because i'll be indelible in people's minds and doing september tenth not even a map and that is a convention as you know with the rules you know mind you do it lbj and say look i'm gonna hang it up and i'm gonna throw my delegates but i've already won to whoever the dnc thinks is a better candidate or a legitimate so i'm i'm not dismissing it the way you are i think that there is more to it than just an early debate this is always a reason in politics