 issue so it goes back to this idea of shoe based giving that for donors they need to see a link between their gifts and an impact in society and that's where i think all of us can actually do a better job i think impact is a great place to wrap it up uh i wish we had more time and maybe we'll just keep chatting chatting up here but in the meantime i'm going to turn it over to the other doug buchanan with columbus business first for some concluding remarks thanks doug