 But, man, even with a sore arm, he pitched for many years. And I remember seeing pictures. He would be in an ice water bath. He would sit that arm in an ice-freezing water bath, and you'd see him smoking a cigarette. Sometimes they'd try to cut that out of the picture because it wasn't apropos sometimes at the time. But here's Sandy still around. One of the great pitchers that everybody talks to for the time was able to grin and bear through that and bring victory to many Dodger teams.