 This is Ring Talk Live Worldwide. You're inside looking at the world of boxing and MMA. Now, Jesse Bam Rodriguez, of course, in the news because tonight he steps up to 115 pounds, undefeated last, stepping up to 115 to take on the old man, Juan Francisco Estrada. Estrada looks like he's older than dirt. He just does. I mean, the guy's been around a while, but...