 He's going to be seen as bullying an old man. Right. And that's not going to that's no good. So he's going to have to play it very, very. Very. I think he's going to walk a fine line because he's debating three people. But I think it's just going to be a Q&A with Dana Bash and Jake Tapper because he's not really going to get to interact with Joe. So it's going to be totally different.