 know the family leads to the detective the detective leads to the department etc etc so it's just kind of a follow-up on the leads thing it's not like i'm sitting here going okay well here's my credentials if they ask hey what other cases have you worked i will provide them with information and with contacts if they request it and then they can follow up and they call me back right away because they get it done and they i guess get the information that they wanted or that they required