 Well, again, that was a process. I was a kid that had a strong arm. They used to say you could throw the ball through the wall, but you've got to hit the wall first. I was wild when I was young. I didn't pitch a lot until college, but it was at BYU that I learned that I had to throw strikes. Part of pitching is getting the ball over the plate where you want it to be and learning the speed pitch, which is where I started my change-up. I just kept progressing from there, but