 With, you know, being part of the NWA and WCW till 93. And then even before that, he was very involved with wrestling. He was a photographer at 13 years old. He would go to the garden. His father would drive him down and he would take photos and sell them to Vince Senior for like $25 a pop. That's tremendous. He's always, you could tell this man, this is what he was meant to do. He loves everything about it. And that's why everything he does has substance.