 get too far into the boat and you know when that happens things can be disastrous he gets like back by the motor and stuff but yeah I chased him down twice made sure that didn't happen and then yeah we got him in the boat but using the spinning rod just that's just being from Minnesota I believe I grew up with a spinning rod in my hands all our lakes are super clear and I'm just I was born and raised a finesse fisherman so I think that's where that comes from I'm just