 So she said, let's just ask them what they want, which was a novel thing for them. And they said, let's go bowling, a bowling outing. She thought, bowling? Is that what you want to do? But guess what? They went bowling. It was a lot of fun. She said it was less expensive than a dinner and a banquet, and everyone had a wonderful time. So the story there is understanding those donors, finding out what's important to them, and meeting them where they are.