 I know all players, particularly pitchers, are competitive, and yet when you think about Anderson as the manager of the team, he had the tendency to want to pull his starters at the first sign of weakness. How hard was that to deal with that? Well, he treated me differently. In fact, we had a conversation early in our time together, and he told me, he says, Jack, he says, I need you to be a guy that finishes games. He said, we can't go to the bullpen every day, and you're the guy that can get it done.