 Right. ABC News anchor. By the way, I knew him. I used to interview Peter. Peter Jennings came into my radio studio one day and asked me a bunch of questions about why I think the way I do. But we have about 30 seconds. OK. Or Tim Russert. Can you ever picture him doing that? No. Again, NBC News. I'm not like you. I knew him, too. He I got along great with both of them.