 on a daily basis and I'm not perfect that trust me a lot of times I don't I need to go back to apologize to people or do whatever but if I can do that that's that's very successful I think so that's something to strive for for me Catherine uh you said your current company clutch works with like loyalty like rewards and like uh from stores what made you want to get into that and like uh is that like a good business market to be working in at the moment