 Well, but did you see him this afternoon in North Carolina? I mean, even last night, I mean, look, I watched Rachel Maddow and Rachel's doing the MSNBC analysis. They go live to the rally where Biden talks to his supporters after. And it's the Joe Biden that I saw in the State of the Union and that I met in the South Valley here in Albuquerque a few years ago. This afternoon in North Carolina, he's energetic and excited and excited.