 backpack down into sycamore canyon but you you can leave your car up there you're absolutely right but the last time we went in there we went we took a jeep it took us four hours to get in there we passed no one else except uh... several other vehicles and those seven vehicles were government vehicles with a chip of a government prefix plates the people inside them had military aircrafts and just stare at us until we we wait about them i didn't go anywhere only what about four hours and and there's a particular area that we stay away from uh... which we did