 in the industry, so why do I want to listen to you? But this guy was still a reporter. And he was a great storyteller. So he was telling all these stories of adventure in the field. And that got me very interested. So to tell you one thing, my first motivation to get in this job was the adventure. I wanted the thrill. I've never been one of these crusading reporters that wants to change people's opinion or make them think like me.