 And she starts counting them out loud. She's going, one, two, three. And she stopped counting at 17. So we're looking at 17 Black Hawk helicopters above the desert. And as she finished counting, Belinda said, that's nothing, that's nothing. There was more than that here the other night. And we're watching for probably not, I want to say not even 10 minutes. And suddenly off to the left of those, which would be the south at the base of Woodchute Mountain, we see this large pulsing amber ball of light come up.