 No, I think it was definitely not a waste of time. I love learning from other CEOs, just how they start their businesses, the hardships that they have to go through, and the risks that they have to take to be successful, especially since I'm trying to figure out what I want to do in my life, and business is really interesting. So learning from someone else is really, I think, beneficial for me. Catherine, how many brothers and sisters do you have, and where are you in the pecking order?