 He was a salesperson. He wasn't a coal miner. My great-grandpa was. My first job offer, where I wanted, my wife, deceased wife and I, wanted to move to Idaho because we think, not a joke, it's such a beautiful, beautiful state. And I interviewed for a job with Boise Cascade. I got a commercial license because my dad used to run an automobile agency. I used to drive a tractor trailer. Oh, awesome.