 conveying what was happening and therefore giving us the emotion. He wasn't one of those using a bunch of dramatic adjectives and whatnot. He was just effectively conveying a very serious situation. So that certainly had a lot of impact on me. But when I transferred and went to Arizona State, I had a teacher, a guy named Dave Marquist, who was a local reporter. A lot of my teachers, I didn't respect them. I would look at them and I'm like, well, you're teaching school because you failed.