 signs on the way to cross and getting into some of these areas we couldn't figure out why they were pressed off there was nothing in there uh... there was no antiquity do you think that somebody was was trying to protect you know in regards to the the native american uh... uh... dwellings in such that area we just couldn't figure it out so we would get beyond those areas and find empty canyons uh... on occasion we did find uh... picture of pictographs or petroglyphs but