 that we often forget about. I mean, as you know, there is a relatively small percentage of Americans who are either in service or have been in service. And it's different from like my grandfather's generation. Or my dad was a Vietnam veteran, which was a whole different experience. So coming out of that, we're kind of in a, we're in this mode as a nation, I think, where you see a lot of the hero, the iconic kind of hero sloganeering around veterans. But those are people. Like when I think about