 He's the challenger this time around. And it's good to be the guy who's not in office when things are going off the rails. And there's going to be a lot of examples that Trump will have to point to. I mean, when it comes to foreign affairs, when it comes to Ukraine, what's going on in the Middle East, China, I mean, I think most Americans, they may not follow all the ins and outs on a daily basis, but there is a widespread sense that the world is spinning out of control. And Biden has been the commander in chief during that same period.