 And he talks in biblical terms when he talks about this fight. And you need to understand that. I said, he's not talking just a general street fight or something bad happening locally. He's looking at this in existential terms. And they will fight like that. And if this goes bad, they will fight to the finish. Because when I was over there in January and had some talks with him, some of them would repeat to me the same thing that was said years ago