 I don't think Obama and Biden really got along. I think clearly Biden came in, he talks too much, he thinks he's an expert on everything, had to bloviate on every meeting that they were in, where Barack Obama liked to run small, efficient meetings, say little, listen a lot. He would come in and take over everything, and he was vehemently anti-military. By the time they were done, they were done. And when he picked Hillary Clinton over Joe Biden as somebody to endorse to take on Trump eventually, that also alienated the two.