 and not so much about what they say. Yeah, and will Biden go after Trump? And we saw that a couple of times in debate the last time around, but he was the challenger. And usually the challenger will go after the champ, but once you're the champ, you don't really do that. And I'm interested to see, because we know Trump is going to bring up, regardless of what the question is, he'll bring up Hunter Biden and all that stuff, but will Biden go after Trump and call him a convicted felon and that sort of stuff?