 I mean, I hope these two egos who have been vehemently anti-Trump don't see this themselves as a career-defining moment. Because it'll be a career-destroying moment, as if being on CNN isn't bad enough. And lastly, on the VP debate, I also spoke to my sources yesterday. I said, listen, I'm going to go do Doug Burgum to interview, do a profile with him and his wife on Sunday in North Dakota. And he, Rubio-