 They were both going out there trying to overcome some of the skepticism around their candidacy. And I just didn't see a lot, particularly from the current president, that that would seem to accomplish that. That's the thing, because I was I can see a world where people listening to Trump go, what is he talking about? And yet the story this morning really does seem to be about President Biden. I mean, is there a how bad is this, I guess, for the current president? What are you hearing?