 But I know in some professions it's 20, 30%. People do not stay with the job. They go on somewhere else and do something else. So it's pay. It's environment. And, you know, the other issue I was trying to talk to you last night is your retirement, right? Before, if you joined a public organization, you said, well, the retirement's great, so I'll do the retirement. Well, PERS went away, and now you get a 401K. So you're just like risk any other guy with a 401K. If the market's up, you're doing pretty good. If the market's down, it's not quite the same.