 pale white look of him he just didn't look very healthy and it was amazing to think that these two men are only three years apart have we heard any numbers yet in terms of ratings haven't seen any numbers uh yet but we do know that what some polling said 73 percent of americans wanted to tune into at least some part of it you know we don't know how much people watched either once they did start to tune in if they had the bucket of popcorn you know with the opening statements um