 You know, so that's, you know, so they can have a visual distance. But no, but I will say Trump understood what this was about. This was not a debate. This was a joint press conference. And he figured out very quickly the moderators weren't going to enforce any discipline. And he went with it, you know. And if you actually look at what he said, he didn't say very much, but he said it, you know, forcefully. And with confidence. Yeah. And what matters in these things is optics, right? Biden looked old, sounded old, right? And optics matter. Sure. And I've been followed...