 I think we're talking about two different things here, John. Okay, well, we could go back and forth, and that's one of those things where it's the dialogue, but it's something that needs to be addressed. Because to me, when you have, like I do outreach with the African community, I work in a community with a lot of different people, and Dr. Hogan has been working tirelessly in these communities. Okay, whether it's funding, whether it's actionable issues with law enforcement, whether it's education, these are all things that he has done.