 uh... there's so much that goes along with it that we don't even think about you know like you said kind of ways for dogs and cats but even horses there are rules so the one more question as we go on today that we that i started to speak i heard more about and wanted to talk with you about emily and that was birth defects in calves it happens it's not always very often uh... in fact uh... my sister and her husband on their ranch they had a calf that literally was born and if i'm not mistaken