 he was very effective in some of those uh... used some examples of uh... people in the audience that were beneficiaries of some of the gender and in how he wanted to move the country forward and so that version comes out and kind of go against the caricature that exist of him and some of his uh... performances from past debates that could be very attractive to to modern independent voters that he is went over here the base consolidated locked up he has to broaden his appeal