 I don't know where she's coming from on that one because right now, and for all the listeners, this is very critical. Last year, as a country, we had to pay about $462 billion in interest on the debt. Okay, that's a lot in itself, a half a trillion dollars. This year, it's going to be $1.1 to $1.2 trillion. Now, people, let me explain to you something. We have about a $4.5, maybe $4.7 trillion debt.