 the slow uh... sort of uh... escalation management policy what should be a slow death of ukraine and so don't in that camp which is a smaller camp of americans uh... there's hope that uh... at least with uh... if trump were to become president to be a kind of a fifty fifty chance that he might actually help ukraine a lot uh... and so this has been i mean you know i i think we are obviously personally everyone's is traumatized by this and as part of our american trauma me how many presidents have been shot