 So Ashley is someone who knows the vice president so well, worked with the vice president. Joel, you talked to Democrats. You've worked on Capitol Hill. You've worked for presidential campaigns. What is their assessment of Vice President Harris and of President Biden at this moment? Well, look, I mean, I think Democrats writ large overall feel really good about the Biden-Harris ticket. I think what we're in the midst of right now is giving the president and his team some space to kind of deal with the fallout from the debate last week.