 And they said, well, what does that reduce? He goes, well, it's just about a couple percent better. And they said, well, your carbon footprint just going from your home in Seattle to China eliminates more carbon than hundreds of cars will do in an entire year. That one trip or something like that, they were trying to measure it. And he goes, well, but there's important things I have to do. Well, there's planes that fly called commercial planes, too. And the economies of scale on that has more people. But he doesn't want to do that because I guess he's above us. But with that...