 Well, when I did come to New York that summer to visit my uncle, the day before I was set to leave to come back to Vicksburg, I was going to be moving to Jackson. I was going to train with Woody Asap to become a weather intern at WLBT. He took me on the tour, and he took me into this private office, and he introduced me. He said, this is Turner Catlett, Jealous. He's also from Mississippi. He was then the managing editor of the New York Times. Wow.