 that I'm going to need to get. So does that mean I have to kind of come in at a lowest level? You got to look into all this and understand what the path looks like. So what I need to do from an experience standpoint to eventually get where I want to go. Third question is, what is all this going to cost me financially? That's not just the cost of the certification, George. That's also the cost of if I've got to kind of take a temporary step back