 John Roberts, not that I don't know what that would mean in terms of influence with Roberts, but both of them are, they come from the administrative law portion of the DC circuit, which is, you know, that's what they do. They do administrative law for all the government agencies down there. And so she's got that in road and the law firm she's with is a progressive law firm out of California. You know, they are into the DEI crap and all that other stuff. But again,