 But he's a former Cub, so it's going to be hard for them to embrace him. 3-1 pitch on the inside corner, 3-2. And then he had that instance, too, where he took a swing to the forearm there on that catcher's interference. That's what it was, not hit by a pitch. You're right. You know, if you look at it historically, Joe, it seems like we're seeing more and more catcher's interference in today's game than we used to. And from the guys I talked to around the dugout, first the payoff pitch to Contreras,