 And even in my own life, my goodness, in times and difficulties in marriage and different things, God, I think this is how things need to be done. And sometimes God just flips the script and says, no, this is what needs to be done. Sometimes in church work you're saying, God, how are we going to resolve this issue? How are we going to fix these things? And what you think needs to be done is not done. And what you think would never work, God uses it to work.