 and saturday morning uh who were pretty excited to go to the event uh the event itself uh had a lot of people there i mean people were getting into the parking lot at about 8 a.m that day uh his speech didn't start till five was scheduled to start till five and then uh we had just a ton of people uh that were filtering and it was a pretty large crowd i'm not great at estimating numbers i've heard anywhere from 10 to 15 000.