 and said, Ellis, there's going to be an opening at Universal Studios, and it looks like it's something that you would love. And I thought, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, finally I'm going to Hollywood. Well, it turned out that I was at Park Avenue, and I only got to go out to Universal once or twice a month. But that was another incredible adventure. Quite often I have said to people, everything that happened in my life, my career, was just a fluke.