 His first stop at Tulane was 2012, 2013, 2014. And then Troy, as an assistant head coach and oversaw linebackers and special teams, 2018, he made a one-year stop in Oxford as the linebackers coach on Ole Miss' staff before going back to his alma mater, joining Mark Stoops' staff to be the inside linebackers coach at Kentucky. And you could speak to this a heck of a lot more than I certainly could, but...