 Went to work for Shell Oil Company installing oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico for a little while. Okay. Heard about ERDC. Decided that I would come up for an interview, and that was 25 years ago. And so ERDC sent me to get a Ph.D. at Texas A&M University. And so now I am not only an LSU Tiger, but now I'm also a Texas A&M Aggie. You're an Aggie. I am. Wow.