 And so his mother was actually married five times. And again, it was just cycles of abuse with her. And that really changes a person. As someone who has prosecuted multiple domestic violence cases, that really has an effect on someone. And it can be a good or it can really ruin them. And J.D. Vance took it and he took it to put it and to make him who he is today. And unfortunately, it's unfortunate he had to go through that.