 But what happens is they eat everything except for the veins of the leaf, and that's why you get that pretty lace pattern. It's not really pretty for us who want the leaf to be intact, but that's how it's distinctive. It is something that you can control with spinosad, and it is also the creatures that my advice would be to be sure that you're not harboring anything in the mulch underneath the plants because sometimes they'll hide there on a hot day.