 Listen, I had to make really bad death notifications, a lot of other things, which we'll talk about in a few moments. But we always did that kind of stuff in person. We didn't do it over the phone. That was a rule that we had in Baltimore. We're talking with Heather Kruger. Heather is the niece of Brian Swift, who was on the show February of 2022. She was diagnosed with fatal liver disease, had a transplant, fell in love with her donor,