 I found the program through a church in Orlando, Florida. They did it, and I just so happened to be visiting on one of their small group nights. So that was where the exposure started, Hope Church in Orlando, Florida. But me and my best friend, he's right here, we did Baby Step 2 for the longest time together. So I never wanted to give up, but any time it was getting ghetto, so to speak, we really kept each other accountable.