 And that was a pivotal moment for my wife and I, and of course my wife just broke down in tears and, uh, just made us recognize, you know, this is worth it. And we're listening to Dr. John DeGaramo, founder and director of the Foster Care Institute. And my goodness, what a story and what a heart a man like this has. When we come back more of this remarkable life story, this story filled with love and hope and self-sacrifice and service here on Our American Stories.