 So it definitely needs to be a look into that and how deep or not it goes, because these things can get very, very deep. All right, we have to take our next break right here because that first segment went a little long. But when we get back, I want to go a little bit, some facts about J.D. Vance, the new vice presidential candidate. So keep it tuned here to the full story on WYAB 103.9.