 that I've been doing it long enough and also pastoring long enough and what the Word of God shows and enlightens to see that I can tell you, in the world that we live in, we're in a messed up world if mama's not there. I've seen guys try to make up the difference. I've seen, and this will come Father's Day maybe, but I've seen moms, I've seen single moms have to be mama and daddy.