 I got to be honest, the first time I listened to Bobby Carpenter on the radio, I was like, nope, no thanks. Yeah. Because he sounded kind of like a meathead. But the more I've listened to him and the more you hear, like, okay, this guy, one, he's pretty bright. Oh, yeah. Did you know he's a professor of finance at Ohio State? Wow. He's got a master's degree. Yeah, he does. And teaches at Ohio. Yeah.