 And I think Pilate tries to, number one, plan A to kick him back to the Jews. That doesn't work. Plan B, let's push him over to Herod. That doesn't work. Then plan C. Pretty good plan. He says, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to back them in a corner. I'm going to put their feet to the fire. Brother Tony says, I'm going to threaten them. It's going to be Jesus or Barabbas.