 um but uh you can just find out a lot about him uh at least the way that he grew up but there are a lot of interesting things uh about uh jd vance uh first off is that jd vance is actually his third name believe it or not um because as he talked about he grew up in a family of domestic violence he grew up with uh absent uh father and uh that's pretty normal uh for names to be changing like that um