 defended him, said, you can't ask that question. Well, then it turned out to be a big deal long after that debate. That was one of the debates. And it turned out to be a big deal. And Chris Wallace said, we can't go there because we don't know that it should turn out to be true. Millions and millions of dollars. Now, if we're going to dinner with her at the Cafe Milano and he said to America, he never once talked to his son, brother or anybody about their foreign business deal.