 and then getting to know him a little bit and traveling with the Braves over the years. And again, you want to talk about a guy who was just unbelievable to bump into in the press box. It didn't get a whole lot bigger than when Vin Scully was in town. I'll give you a quick rundown. Phil Rizzuto was maybe the first personality driven. I mean, Hawk Harrelson and some of those other guys had personality. For me, to hear the former player Bill White, who did a very different game than former player Hall of Famer Phil Rizzuto. Lindsey Nelson had the jacket. Ralph Kiner, there was...