 Well, and that's, I appreciate that. And what, for those that are listening, what Jason is talking about today's episode of the Mississippi Outdoors podcast, Mississippi Outdoors from Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks. Our guest was Emily Field. She is the state herpetologist. She's over at the Mississippi Museum of Natural Science. And she was a guest and she's a young professional. She's not out of college that long, but Jason, I know you're going to agree with this.