 Okay, so let's get back to this, because this is important. I said to you before the break that my sources are telling me that there was no ladder discovered at the scene used, this is important, used by the shooter to access the roof. Ladders you may be seeing in pictures may have been put there after the fact, crime scene-wise, or to access the roof as a response thing, but this is what they're telling me. Now, why is that important?