 then i answered that in the paper um somebody was looking for a production secretary so i kept the bingo job and i went to work for telly savalis on kojak they were shooting the last episodes here and there was one agent in town and she would not hire me or a lot of people and um she was absconding with union funds on the actors and um telly said to me um why don't you open a talent agency here because i was finding like caterers and all these things for them that they needed