 I generally don't even use the term the elites very much, largely because I just think it's so overbroad and it doesn't really capture what the real dividing lines are. The dividing line that I think we ought to pay more attention to, it's a separate topic, is the managerial class in this country versus the everyday citizen. Whether that managerial class is in the government, whether it's in an HR bureaucracy in a corporation, whether it's the associate deanships and the administrators at a university,