 If I was in Phoenix right now, Dave, I would make him drive me to construction sites all over the city where they're building homes, and I'd say, you got a clean T-shirt? All right. Your jeans look sharp? All right. Get the tool belt on and walk up and say, where's the foreman? And say, I'm a carpenter. I'm ready to go. You might be surprised. Within about two hours, you'd probably be working, if not with a gig. That's how low the shortage is right now on carpenters. That's a fact. That's not my opinion.