 Tim used to stay here when he had no money and didn't have another place to stay before they started, before they got into chips. And Tip is just an easygoing, outgoing, very, I mean, anybody that meets Tim feels like they've known him forever. He's also 6'2", and I'm not. So I always felt like I was a dwarf in his presence. But he is one of the nicest, most outgoing. You said you met him, David, right? Yes.