 But we heard a lot about him, and I recall my mother had his flute, and she presented it to me. But growing up, when I would go out, when I would leave St. Aloysius and Vicksburg to go to work, I'd always stop at the library to do my homework. And I started picking up, on Wednesdays, I'd get the New York Times, the Sunday New York Times. And I was fascinated that a newspaper had more than 20 pages, and the Sunday edition was like War and Peace.