 to um dropping out you know to several i think several members of congress and advisors um and he asked the question he asked specifically is is do you guys think kamala can win that was his you know verbatim question there they lied to him and told him yeah yeah yeah that's right they just said yeah of course you can win just get out joe we'll figure it out afterwards so um yeah he said he was receptive and nancy pelosi apparently went to him finally and said chuck schumer right schumer did too it was a private meeting yeah