 the actual receipt of that information, and then the publication of that information. And here we're talking about what's called national defence information, classified information, but that's information that national security reporters solicit and publish on a regular basis. OK, but the US government contention was that he actually went further than a journalist would because, for example, WikiLeaks didn't always redact sensitive information and he was accused of potentially putting people at risk. What's your take on that?