 And she says that one part of the dilemma is her reaction to many. She says many, if not all, of the people who attend the traditional Latin Mass at the SSPX Chapel. She says they're very anti-novus ordo. And novus ordo, again, is the Latin phrase for the new right of the Mass, or the new order of the Mass that was promulgated in 19... Well, officially in 1965 when the Council closed, but it didn't really...