 in the right order so to speak and so they become a kind of intellectual assembly line and so they're not satisfying people are looking for more and so they're going back they're saying let me recover a way of life that really did engage my mind and that does engage my mind that would be a life of the tangible goods of the trades you have to think a lot when you're trying to fix the problem in a in a car when you're trying to figure out how to build a house