 And talking about old school techniques, Mike, you started volunteering with North Shore Rescue when you were just a teenager, I hear. What attracted you to this work all those years ago? Yeah, so I had a bit of a unique situation because my dad was a part of the team for as long as I can remember. And I kind of grew up going to training calls and my dad's fellow team members became people that I really looked up to and they became a part of our outer family, if you want to call them that.