 than they were in 2022. But of course, today marks the nine years since the Supreme Court Obergefell decision redefined marriage nationwide. I thought we could take a look at where we come. What was promised? What has happened? Where is this going? Eric Niffin joins me today. He's the founder of his own law practice. You can find him at niffinlaw.com. That's K-N-I-F-F-I-N.com.