 you know uh back in 2012 for example the first debate mitt romney you know crushed it but by the second debate obama defeated him in the debate and you know that's just the way it is like i try to call it as i see it and this is a the clear one of this debate was donald trump because everyone on his side is is crowing about how his performance not just his fans but everyone on the right side of the aisle but the democrats are in panic mode and it's because the performance by biden was just