 that are very real issues, but are often not talked about. So for example, we just did a study with a group in New York State, it's a healthcare system, there's a bunch of hospitals, had a group get together, led by the CEO, talking about, you know, sort of what we stand for as an organization. And a lot of people were sort of, you know, semi paying attention, you know, sort of talking about pillars like excellence and unity. Then we did Agile Break with the group.