 She says they will also not attend any church function related to the new order of the mass, the Novus Ordo, or the no. That's a kind of a come. It's in vogue among many traditionalists is to say the no mass, short for Novus Ordo. But it carries with it the connotation of no, don't go there, don't do that. It's defective. We don't like it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's one of the dilemmas. She says they're also...