 They are living the gospel in a way that is profound, Drew. I mean, they are forgiving their enemies. They're bearing their crosses. They're witnessing impatience and humility. It was really a powerful experience. I love it. My guest today, Father Matthew Spencer. Father, you know how this works. I need to just take a short pause here. We'll come back. We'll talk a little bit more. He is the Provincial Frisorder, the Oblates.