 I didn't feel like I was inside of it then either. I have to say, Jesse, I, I, I was, um, I was still, um, you know, I was very, very shy and yeah, I, I didn't, I mean the, the, the early punk rock scene in Athens, Georgia, which is where I moved when I was 18 to go to college was really incredible. But, um, I was kind of an outsider there. I do remember, um,