 And she, God bless her, I just think, okay, this woman's a saint in the making, for sure. She said, no, we can do this, we can get back, we can find this relationship. And he just wouldn't talk about why he did what he did. I don't think he understood why he did what he did. He was a good man in so many ways, but he didn't understand why he couldn't commit. And when I probed and asked him to look with me, let's explore this, let's look at childhood.