 But then they've done surveys and interviews of people coming across the border, and the vast majority of them come for economic reasons. It's not because their safety is threatened. It's because they want to make a better living here. And nobody can oppose them for that. The problem is that what's our obligation to the rest of the world? Do we just let anybody and everybody in? And so I think what they do is they go for whatever is most compassionate on the surface level without understanding the second-order effects. You talk about the borderline.