 Being as close to a fish as I could get and finding out more about their lives and generally having adventures underwater, which led me to research and ultimately talking about the ocean writing books, spreading the word about the wonderful things beneath the waterline. And that's the key to much of what you've written. And we'll talk about your latest book later on, isn't it? It's that sense of making us more aware of what is down there, but also what we are perhaps putting at risk.