 cultural and philosophical shifts some of it is technological i mean we're able to we're able to address a lot more pain today than we could uh certainly a hundred years ago right let alone 200 years ago what is um so i think um i think there's an important balance to strike here on the one hand you know suffering is not good for its own sake even in the in the life of christ you know and his redemptive suffering on the cross it wasn't the suffering per se that was like the the great thing it was the love with which she accepted that suffering the obedience to the