 And frankly speaking, that can really mean anything. That means that if everybody in that particular grade school wears their hat this way, then I want to be normal like the rest of them and fit in. And what's also interesting is that in a workplace where people are kind of lazy, people don't want to stand out as the person you point at saying you're ruining it for the rest of us by working hard. And so they would rather be just kind of normal.