 They struggled trying to make an ends meet, but they got through it. And I'm talking to this guy, and I said, do you know why it's good that we used the bombs and we didn't try to invade them? The estimates were there was going to be a million dead Americans. Do you know the body bags we're using today to bring our bodies back from the Middle East were bought then? So I said, if you had anybody that served in the Pacific, you probably wouldn't have known them if they hadn't dropped the bombs because nobody lived there. They had a short lifespan.