 This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And today my guest is Shane Goldmacher, a New York Times correspondent. He covers developments, trends and forces shaping American politics. And he's worked for the Times since 2017, covering Congress and the White House and state houses, as well as national politics for both New York and California. And he covered the 2020 presidential race as a national political reporter and is currently in Atlanta to cover tonight's presidential debate.