 for Americans and well beyond. They've got actual clients in Finland and England and all over the place, I think in Canada. So they're out there fighting to make sure that we have human rights, we have our civil rights, and that government can continue to trounce on them. They're doing great work. We'll have her for you next hour, bottom of next hour. A lot of people on the phone lines in the meantime want to be heard. We've got a few minutes left in this hour. Previewing the debate.