 And this is the kind of thing we see all the time. We've seen it here in New England. Some of the people on this panel can speak directly to that. And so even though climate change is a catastrophe, it is an opportunity to build systems that work better for all of us. But how? How do we do that? And how do we do it in a sustained and long-term way around climate solutions that could take years? And how do we do that with our neighbors and local governments?