 And she told me, okay, she'd see him. They'd have this big meeting. All the kids were supposed to be online. One kid's not paying attention. They'll turn off their camera. They'll put their feet up. And it's not like you're even in the same classroom. You can say, hey, put your feet. She could say that, but they wouldn't listen to her. I mean, it was hard. I'm going to move along. Judy in Northeast Michigan. Good afternoon.