 welcome back to the inner life my name is patrick conley my thanks to thomas engesser our producer and patrick a-log on the phones for us today we're talking about redemptive suffering with our spiritual director father carter griffin and we've had some great calls come in but there's still a few lines open if you'd like to join the conversation about a situation that you or a loved one are facing and that involves suffering and how to handle it well 888-914-9149 again 888-914-9149