 And as I mentioned, the fact that Pope Francis had granted the faculties to hear confessions, it raises two questions. Well, how would he do that? How could he do that? Why would he do that? If it's a group that's clearly in actual canonical schism from the Catholic Church, it seems that that would be impossible to do. So that's a point in favor of saying, well, they're not in schism, but what exactly is their status?