 just on a natural law case. You'd see the problem with it. Of course, there's moral and ethical implications. There's religious freedom concerns. We're now seeing this cultural shift that my last guest just pointed out. Part of me doesn't like to talk about this stuff. I don't, but I think this teaching is so important. It's gotten buried. This is the ninth anniversary. We don't look at the moral and the ethical implications of this. This decision...