 But at the end of the day, these guys have been around for a long time, and most people do have their opinions of them made up. I do think tonight will make a difference in some of these swing states with independent voters who maybe don't even like either candidate but have to make a choice. And so I think that's where we're going to see the difference. Logan, you've obviously worked for the Trump campaign in the past. What are your predictions about this debate tonight?