 So according to Catholic teaching, how could that be with two women or two men? How could it be procreative? How could it be unitive in that respect? The term the church uses is complementarity. I know it sounds like a big word, but there's a natural complementarity of a man and a woman, and that's essential for marriage and for life. And what Obergefell did, it separated the institution of marriage from the procreative potential.