 I get it, though. I grew up with a milkman. I grew up with people knocking on your door about selling you plates and stuff. I feel like there was that value in that back in the day. And the money was made by design by the people who got other people to sign up other people. This is called the downline. Right. And there's people right at the top, and then there's a level here. She's making a pyramid symbol for the listeners. Right.