 i'm not necessarily a first memory or the first time i prayed it but definitely gathering together and you know if you get those big wooden uh colorful beads i don't know if those who are listening if you remember those that engage i don't know they even sell it probably they sell everything these days but you big big kind of multi-colored wooden rosary beads so they're easy to handle and then like coloring books me i remember having coloring books where we take