 Here's the way I look at it. So maybe you could ask, if you want a few rhetorical devices you might use next time you talk about it, is just say, what's your take, you know, I realize you're opposed to slavery, you're personally opposed, but what about, should we make exceptions in certain cases, depending upon the circumstance that, you know, the slave owner will go bankrupt if he doesn't get work and use out of this slave? I mean,