 had to get along with the unions, the New York City inspectors, and the mobs. He had to talk tough. Oh, absolutely. But he made them all money, didn't he? If you pour concrete in New York City, you're talking to the mob. Period. And if you don't pay... I was down there in the days of Jack Dempsey's. Remember Jack Dempsey's being open, the bar? Yes, I do. The towers weren't up yet, the Twin Towers. I wanted to go to, I think it was the Blue Note or the Half Note, some famous jazz place down there.