 He headed the March of Dimes program. Oh, okay. And Salk wrote, I would feel that every child who is injected with placebo and becomes paralyzed will do so at my hands. That's right. That's what I was alluding to. Huh. And that those who argued, those demanding a placebo-controlled trial, he argued, took the position in order to reach a statistical endpoint because, quote, values in which the worship of science involves the sacrifice of humanitarian principles on the altar of rigid methodology. Right.