 And I know this is a topic we've often discussed, but for those who maybe haven't heard you on before, and we'll post a link to the episode, were you sure you've never had to perform an abortion in order to save the life of the mother? I know you've delivered more than 5,000 babies. If you could speak, has that ever been necessary in a life-threatening circumstance for mom for abortion to be the choice, the quote choice, right?