 that what will end abortion? She argues it'll be the family that will end abortion. Abortions will be, abortion will be ended by families. I thought it was such a great insight. And if I have time, maybe I'll share a little bit of what she had to say. But you can find Patrick also at eppc.org. That's their website. And feel free to do that. Ethics and Public Policy Center. Hey, Patrick, thanks for your time today. Good afternoon.