 So what he was telling his interrogator was, look, there are those fellows out there by Wadi Qumran, and they're revolutionaries. They're Essenes, and they're zealots. And they are your enemies, because they're revolutionaries. But I don't belong to them. I don't teach in their gatherings. I don't frequent them. So there are traces that Jesus knew about it, like that in the New Testament, if you know how to read it.