 If Hunter Biden was in any meeting, it was there in an informal capacity. He was just sitting in with his dad spending time together. Yes, he talks to Jill Biden. And yes, you consult with your spouse. Don't you, Peter? Don't you consult with your spouse about important issues? I mean, that's kind of how you have to deal with it and go on to the next question. But the flip-flopping tells you everything that you need to know with her non-answer, which is that Jill Biden and Hunter Biden are way too involved with what the president is doing because they have to be.