 They've been bringing him along since he was very young, maybe since college age or shortly thereafter, and grooming him for this day, then one day he could take a shot at the White House. But one thing I did want to bring up is let's not forget within the past year or so, that time when Gavin visited the White House, everybody was saying, he's going to measure the drapes now. He's not having a friendly chitchat. He's measuring the drapes. And so those things are coming back to haunt people.