 So that was Bill Clark. The only reason I started mentioning him is you mentioned Parkinson's. Bill Clark ended up dying from Parkinson's disease. Now, this would have been August 2013. He was 81 years old. And like I said, he was like a grandfather to me. So I knew him really well. And I could tell you when I saw Biden on that stage in that debate with Donald Trump a few weeks ago, that kind of catatonic like stare.