 of the folks who are on the buzz list. But in that Hannity debate with Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis, wasn't he pretty easily put against the ropes? Wasn't he pretty easy to fluster? You know, so I don't know. There may be, as I think I said yesterday, a lot of sizzle but not a lot of steak there. Gretchen Whitmer, is Michigan knocking it out of the park?