 That was Sean Kingsley and Rex Cowan. Sean Kingsley, the marine historian. Rex Cowan, the archaeologist and shipwreck hunter. And both of them have come across The Pirate King, The Strange Adventures of Henry Avery, and The Birth of the Golden Age of Piracy. There's a scene that they wonderfully present of Tennyson, the man, the churchman, who's at the end of the dead drop for the letter that we saw Avery writing in Falmouth.