 And if you don't believe it, go to TMZ, the gossipy Hollywood site, because it was a TMZ person who caught Stephanopoulos. And I don't even know if it was a hidden camera. It may have been a hidden camera. It doesn't look like it's... These TMZ guys, they get people in the streets, public figures, and they do interviews with them and all that. And you can do that now with a phone or whatever. I don't know that it was a hidden camera. But Stephanopoulos has apologized.