 Against conventional enemies. That's the core mission of NATO. If it sticks to that, it'll be just fine for the next 75 years. What about the fact that, and I know Estonia was one of the leaders in this, cyber defense. If you say conventional enemies, is there a role for NATO in terms of nation-state cyber defense? Well, I... See, I... And again... I'm just curious. I don't think it's an...