 Not so popular, it turned out. Talk to us about the future, Asia pivots, and what NATO should be doing or what it should stick to. That's a great question. So yesterday I chaired a panel at the NatCon convention in Washington, D.C., and I chaired about the future of Europe. Several guys talked about NATO and had different ideas and stuff. But the interesting thing is the one thing we all agreed on is like every single multinational, international institution in the world,