 trying to find a common ground and for that common ground, renouncing their values and their objectives. No, trade is trade, I think, should or should be among private companies. They do trade with whoever they want, but not to condition trade to political relations. I think that's very important for the world because a world where trade is conditioned to political relations is a world that's very good for China, very good for the totalitarians. China does that the whole time.