 I don't think that's what Trump is referring to. It's a great question about the utility of a ceasefire. I wrestled with this myself. I think the risk is, and there's actually a risk for both sides. Putin has mentioned this before, that he would worry that a ceasefire would be used by the West to rearm Ukraine. The Ukrainians have the exact same fear with respect to Russia. So I think it just... The Ukrainians definitely don't want it at this point. I'll say that. But...