 but you know that's so we'll see if he actually had to hang up as fast as he did but according to the people that we've talked to um who are on this call are familiar with this call it was defensive it was very tense jason crowe a congressman from colorado references that concerns that voters have about biden being at the helm of the ticket you know when they when they go it's to sleep at or when he goes to sleep at night uh they're thinking about you know is he the person suited for this