 We need to see different facets of Donald Trump. And Larry, I'll put it this way. I often describe Donald Trump as a very complex person with simple ideas. And too many people in politics are the opposite. They are simple people with very complex ideas. And that, I think, is the grandeur of Donald Trump. And then we saw a man whose, I think, life had been changed in a bit by having had his life been saved. He believes, I talked to him, I've seen him since he was