 and there's usually caulking there and the reason there's caulking there is if you put the grouting all the way down it comes all the way down to the tub and you put 200 pounds of water in there plus your body that tub is going to settle it's going to move and that grout's just going to crumble out that's why there's silicone there okay yeah i i had no idea and since you know it wasn't all done by the same group right i didn't know if