 Maybe your elbow goes up on the side of the bench and you got your cup of coffee there in the morning or you're watching the TV and the ball game in there and you just took a little break, but you got to have something to sit on in there. And this is a very personal and very special piece of furniture that you use for that. Mine's a little two-foot ladder that my grandfather had at one time and I've had to fix it. The trouble is I use it for a painting stand also.