 And that's why we've been seeing good performance out of the Dow Jones. Obviously, this is driven on optimism that a rate cut is likely to take place in September and maybe additional rate cuts on the back half of the year. With interest rates going down, then that likely is a bit of a tailwind for those value stocks. And like we've talked about with the Russell 2000, the small cap space, the Russell 2000 has jumped more than 9% in the last five trading days. Wow.