 in an extraordinary way during that debate with Donald Trump in a way that no one expected and, frankly, no one has ever seen in the history of American presidential politics. Ben Shapiro, weekday afternoons at 1 on News Talk KBY. Check out all the latest in news, events, tracking information, and podcasts at Red Eye Radio's website at RedEyeRadioShow.com. That's RedEyeRadioShow.com.