 For the benefit of everybody here, expand on that. You don't even have to go into, you just, you have a conversation. By the way, you should be, it makes me wonder about the daily briefings. What is he getting on the daily briefings? You did it! You came to the meeting all by yourself. How does he, what's going on? In the daily briefings, what is he being told? What is he not being told? What does he comprehend?