 And I'm not going to get it today, but I can give you some of the highlights of it. But the bottom line is flipping properties. He would go out and find somebody that was in a distressed situation with their property, and then he'd go talk to their neighbors, and he'd peel off pieces of it, get them obligated to buy pieces of it, and he'd make a little bit of property. And once he did that for a number of years, well, it obviously worked out.