 There's no verification of that. I want to see the original tape then. ABC News, and I know we're an affiliate of ABC News, but I will call them out. They need to provide the original tape of him not able to answer those first questions. There are some context clues that back that up. He was very, very late for his next campaign stop, which was, was it Wisconsin? I think so. He had the interview in D.C., then flew to Wisconsin. He was very late.