 how did how do we think because we don't know but how do we think the biden thing went down because they were pretty adamant he was staying on now obviously there was probably a different plan at the tippy top of the party but do you think obama called him do you think pelosi called what do you think it really was in the end because i don't think joe wanted to go no definitely not and i think he's so pissed about it yeah and kind of has a right to be pissed about it um