 in the Dead Sea Scrolls, the official documents of the group of people who were there to indicate their special meetings, their professional gatherings. So what he was telling his interrogator was, look, there are those fellows out there by Wadi Gumran, and they're revolutionaries. They're Essenes, and they're zealots. And they are your enemies because they're revolutionaries. But I don't belong to them. I don't teach in their gatherings. I don't frequent them.