 Let's go ahead and play Jennifer Granholm. Any talk of him pulling out among the inner circle? No. He is moving forward. And that inner circle sees him every day, including his family. How often do you see him? Well, again, I'm here in my personal capacity, so I can't really talk about what I see. Okay. So I want you to, the obfuscation, I don't know why I ever try to use that word because I never say it right.