 So there's a lot of non-union workers where we can recruit, as well as going out to the technical schools or schools and promoting apprenticeship, educating career counselors about what it entails to be an apprentice in the carpenters' union. Yeah, I was going to say, if you started with the schools and people that want to enter the trades knew what that path to more of a career rather than a job, maybe, is that fair to say that? Yeah.