 cheers encore good for everybody but this huge following will be behind a lot of people that will speak about it but have never experienced it now we know that you have experienced it so i can't put you in that group but i have i have uh recognized that along the way where hey we bring these people on as guests and they have a bazillion books and then you say well have you ever seen one or seen many or whatever it is or experienced whatever it might be and they say nope never