 He's seen more life on both sides of the tracks than anybody. And again, he's on top of his game. He works at it. He's not a politician. I'll tell you that. And that's what I liked about him. He came in kind of like me. He kind of came from a different background. And I think that's going to help him fit in with President Trump. Because President Trump, he didn't care anything about politics. He wants to do what's right for the American people.