 when Donald Trump is 81 and 82 years old. It's not guaranteed that it's going to happen. Everybody is different, I understand. But you do have to keep in mind that he is only three years younger, three and a half years younger than Joe Biden is. So we could be going through all this again coming up in three or four years. I mean, if you're judging them by just how fast they can talk and things like that, Biden's never been much of a talker.