 As soon as you see argument by epithet, argument by ad hominem, that's when you know they don't have an argument. And that's what everyone should be on the watch for, and that's what everybody should be calling them on. Yep, and Julie, unfortunately, you're getting in my ear that we have a hard break coming up, so I'd love to continue this conversation. We should do a podcast thing sometime. We could go for like two hours, because I'd love to ask you so many more questions about this evolution of the Democratic Party, but we do have to go. But let's have you back on soon, and thanks so much for joining us.