 I think he has talked with individuals. I think he's a fair... I've not met him. I was hoping to meet him at a conference that he was invited to. He had the RSVP that he would come, but his schedule changed. So I was disappointed not to have a chance just to take the measure of the man. But as I read his report, he followed procedure, followed protocol in investigating the claims that he was getting information about. And he is a professional intelligence expert.