 It's on our radio. He's Eric Carlian. I'm Gary McNamara. Coming up following the bottom of the hour, more speeches. We'll hear from a brother of one of a victim of a murder of a illegal immigrant coming up here in just a little bit. Rachel Morin's brother, in fact. Plus, we'll hear from DeSantis also. But this here, we're just talking about the campaign and the campaigns now about Biden, not about Trump.