 Well, Kevin Smith really knows his, you know what? It's not just a one-trick pony. Knows his tech as well. If we have time, we're going to play a little bit more from that throughout this show. We chatted about the 25th anniversary of the BlackBerry. But as promised, after this short break, we're going to catch up with the founder of an app called Vinyl.ly that fuses music appreciation with matchmaking, which I like a lot. That's called Vinyl.ly.