 Yeah, 20-year combat veteran. And one of the things he said in his letter was that, hey, I fought overseas for 20 years, and I never thought that the greatest threat to my life would actually become from home with somebody that has my same name. So he'll face combat, but understands that this is the unlimited nature of what Ferguson's willing to do. And you go back and you look at Tim Iman. So Tim Iman, a mutual friend of ours, this is a full disclosure, you're far closer to him than I am. I consider Tim a friend, but you know him far better than I do.