 He has changed quite a bit over the years. He was a Trump critic in 2016, obviously well-known for his book Hillbilly Elegy, which kind of gives you the terrible story of life in the Midwest and drugs and opioids. But he tells a story of the real problems of that area, which I think is an interesting thing that's been a little overlooked with him. A lot of people say, well, he's from Ohio. He's going to win Ohio anyway. True, but...