 Or maybe look a few things up and make some attachments or send some photos. So I don't mind it at all. And then that also gives us a topic, as you heard in the first hour of the show. You hear that. And oh, by the way, thank you to thank you to you to Gil for coming into the studio this morning. Gil Arouset just finished up the last hour with us. He's a representative from Western States Regional Council of Carpenters. Very interesting person.