 but they're also stating that they don't want to have a limited scope of just getting inflation to 2% at the demise of our economy, right? So the fact that he's making those comments, we're certainly seeing a bit of a lift in the markets, particularly in the fixed income space where you have the 10-year treasury yield now below 4.3%. So if you really want to see a gauge on where the market really feels interest rates are going, the fixed income space is a good place to look. So right now markets are...