 But it is cliquish in Utah. I know that from deep, distant past. You know, Salt Lake is, they are. They have a little bit of an arrogant streak down there thinking that they have arrived at times. You know, and I see it when I visit the church down there. You know, I see it in their attitudes. It's like they don't pay attention to some of the more pertinent information or some of the more pertinent information out there.