 I think there was a lot of anticipation on who for sure was going to be the vice presidential pick. So it was kind of exciting to, to figure out, um, you know, what our thoughts were about him because, uh, when fans chosen and announced, uh, you know, I didn't know a whole lot about him. I knew his name and what he, what he does currently, but I really didn't know a lot about his background. And so that was really interesting to hear from him, uh, talking about his, um,