 But if they accept that, then they have to look at accepting the reality that their gravy train is over. The cushiness of being the part of the first family and being a Biden, that's coming to an end. And I think so. They're probably just in this denial where they're like, no, we got to hang on. We've got to do this. And I think we're kind of seeing this tug of war happen. I agree. I can't imagine what the quiet conversations have been.