 And sometimes it made sense to actually climb down the cliff and swim around, particularly if you had a low lake year. But there was always the first person every year to go first. Sometimes it wasn't a challenge. Other times, if it had been a low lake year, even if we went and swam around and made sure that, hey, it's deep enough in our kids' minds, young adults' minds, then we're cool. But when you were the first person to jump, there's always that little bit of doubt that