and how he'd seen  prison and er they'd said they hadn't any prisons but he found one and  erm  hospitals and all that sort of thing  and at the end of the week's visit erm one of the very high ups, whom he named and I've forgotten the name of him, I think I'll just use that, thank you  erm sent for h he, he was brought before him as it were and the man said to him are there any questions er at the end of your week that you want to ask  and he said  well perhaps there is one  he said erm Winston Churchill was here erm a month or two, a few months ago