People who dismiss this out of hand are the same people who believed every word of the swift-boaters.  Partisan politics isn't everything folks.  where is your soul?  where is your morality?  why can't you be objective about this and realize that Guliani is not everything he's trumped up to be?  Most firefighters are conservatives.  many conservative firefighters hate Guliani--have they been brainwashed by the liberal dummycrats?