(contnd from prev) Where I have a problem is when the labels want the cake and eat it. If, when I buy a cd I purchase the right to listen to it, then I should have the right to make as many personal copies I like and rip it, etc. If, on the other hand, all I buy is the plastic support and I cannot copy or rip it, then, it never is worth 20 bucks, no more than a dollar for a CD and 10 cents for a downloaded MP3. But they cannot claim both.