Sir, I have seen a lot of white liberal wiener kids on this website, but you take the cake. Let's begin with your assessment that indie rock is for real men. Let's see, do real men cry after getting dumped by emo girls? No, real men chop up emo girls with hatchets and go on the run from the law. Additionally, you fail to reason that death metal is a morass of complex technical guitar and drum arrangements complimented by low pitched growls from the depths of hell.