Panaceamedia - yeah, it's just generalizations and percentages, but saying, that, there seems to be a grain of truth to it.  I've debated with many neosheep and there are some that never change their Point of View or give an inch even afrer their arguments are decimated with facts. Things that would make you reconsider your ideas, things that make you re-order your philosophy, don't phase them.  They are in a delusional world.  I'm a lib, but my philosophy evolves as I learn things.