0_Apprentice
My son has braces, and I swear it seems like they will never come off!
1_Wizard
I feel yours and his pain! I had them for 5 years! They are so worth it though to have nice aligned perfect teeth and a perfect bite! 
0_Apprentice
He had this device for the first six months called a Herbst.  Have you ever heard of that?
1_Wizard
I have not specifically heard of a Herbst, but I do know many appliances are used in conjunction with the braces. I had one at the top of my mouth to widen the roof of my mouth. I had a key I had to put in it to widen it every day. What is the Herbst?
0_Apprentice
The Herbst device was to correct an overbite.  It looked like shocks from a car on each side of his mouth to pull lower jaw forward.
1_Wizard
Oh okay yes, I have seen those my friend had them, I just didn't know their name. She said she had those because she didn't wear her rubber bands and she cant take those off! lol
0_Apprentice
They were like a torture device!  The thing you had sounds like one too!
1_Wizard
Yes! But it did its job! Braces have been around since ancient times, I always wonder what they did in place of the devices they have now.
0_Apprentice
I'm surprised they've been around that long!  I'm picturing a cave man getting mad at his wife calling him metal mouth.