0_Apprentice
I am a computer programmer. I do not have a degree in it, though.
1_Wizard
I'm studying to be a programmer and computer engineer myself.
0_Apprentice
That's awesome. I have two degrees in environmental engineering, but I love programming!
1_Wizard
Oh cool! I want to get better at programming and software engineering since I'm not great yet.
0_Apprentice
You will get there! It takes years to master a subject and a craft.
1_Wizard
Are you more of an engineer in your career than a computer programmer?