If you need a loafer that looks great with jeans or with dress slacks` Get this one!  I love these shoes.  I am glad they have made them 3 yrs in a row.  I have had a black patent pair every year as well as a brown patent.  Love them, love them. love them.  I am thinking my luck is going to run out and they are not going to make them any more so I had better get a couple more and stick aside! Fit true to size.  Don't hesitate- just buy them.