i ordered these after much thought, because i wasn't sure if they would be dressy enough.
they are not dressy enough.
but they are great boots. very comfortable for walking, the leather is a nice quality and looks like it will wear well. the style is great for a casual boot- would look good with pants or skirts, and can pass for a nice shoe at work if you don't look too closely. the brown is a great very dark color, but the black rubber does contrast a bit and make the shoe less dressy.
my calves are pretty narrow, and these come close to fitting- so if you have a wide calf, these probably won't fit.
so maybe i'll keep them and buy a second dressy pair.