I've been buying these jeans for several years now. While I agree they are not a very heavy denim, the price is right. I use these as work jeans and compared to a brand like Carhartt, they are 1/3 the price. Some may say they are 1/3 the quality as well. I wear them out pretty quickly and don't feel bad about tossing them in a month or so when they get stained or torn. I don't feel as good about tossing a pair of thirty dollar jeans when they get stained. I buy these at WalMart and pay between fourteen & seventeen dollars. I recall one time last year WalMart had then for nine ninety nine. The price here is way too high.