these are my 2nd pair of bearpaws. i am so happy to have them . they get wet from the snow and don't leak through. i love them and would surely recommend them. they're worth every penny.  i have to wear heavy socks with this "flat -soled" pair. for some reason they're larger than the "luggier" ones. i think i should not have gone up a size from my normal size with this style. wish i had ordered both sizes  and sent one back.