These pants are great, and it's so nice not to have to go to the clothing store! Dockers have fit me best for years, and I keep getting more.

Why 4 instead of 5 stars?

 1) sizing is not perfecty consistent. When I buy 33 waist, most are perfect while about one in four are tight.

2) Dockers still, after all these years, wear out pretty quickly. Wearing one pair one day a week, it starts to fray in about 7 months. That's only about 29 washings.