I had a pair of these in womens for 13 years. I tried to buy another pair in womens and they changed the style. My heal would slip out. Luckily I saved my old pair. The leather was still in like new condition and I wore them more than any other shoe I own. The sole cracked down the middle of my right show. I was so devastated. I bought my first pair at kohls dept. store. So, when I ordered online It took me 3 different orders and returns from amazon and zappos until I realized the mens style was the same as the old womens style they had not changed them. I finally ordered a mens 9M and they fit just like my old womens 11M. I am one happy customer. I am thinking of just getting another pair for safe keeping in case the sole snaps and cracks across the arch again. Very happy customer here.