After seeing all the positive reviews on these jeans, I was convinced they would be the jeans for me, but they weren't even close! I usually wear a size 4, 30" length and like the "curvy fit" for a little ease in the hips and thighs. I ordered a size 6, knowing that denim shrinks, but when they arrived, I could barely get them on, even before washing. Jeans look nice with a good, and slightly snug fit, on just about any body shape, but the muffin top look is not comfortable and certainly not my style. The claim that they "sit just below the belly button" was a cruel hoax! The zipper was only about 4" long, sitting well below the belly button, and definitely unbecoming to someone with curves. I couldn't get beyond the fit of the top of the jeans to comment on the length, and returned them. I, like the other reviewers, was unaware of the "re-stocking" fee. (Really?! It costs $20 to put them back on the shelf?!!!) After total disappointment, I just sucked it up (no pun intended), with no intention of ordering Carhartt pants again. I think I'm doomed to forever trying on dozens of pairs of pants in a department store to get the right fit, or getting them custom made! :(