I bought these last June to wear for casual motorcycle riding. I bought them 2" longer than I usually get pants and the cuffs stay lower on my boots than regular pants / jeans which is nice. Why it took me 12 years to figure that out who knows... I wear them to work in my office and they look good enough people don't think they are jeans, but I do. Tough like normal Carhartt pants with a little extra fabric on the thigh.