i was hoping these would be better made and more supportive, but they aren't.  The canvas material is super thin, and so is the outsole.  i also think they run a half size small. i am a solid mens 7, and i my toes were reaching the tip.  no support whatsoever for arch, and no real good room for orthotics.  i just would not call these a running shoe, and they didn't really fit my idea of a walking shoe. i am surprised the skechers name is on them.