these are nice pants. i usually wear the Tru-Spec BDU type 60/40 pants, and still on the fence on which i like better. i prefer the button fly of the BDU for starters. i do feel these are more baggy then the BDU pants. the cargo pocket seems more internal then on the BDU so that may be why they are a tad baggy, to accommodate for stuff. i like these pants but at the moment they seem more like dress slacks to me then something i want to use for work or my adventures. Tru-Spec makes awesome products and with all the Teflon coating and rip stop technology, i am sure they will more then suit my needs. i just need to wash them and abuse them a bit to really appreciate them.