I ordered these last week for my 6 year old son. Love the way they look. Like that they are leather and thought the price was good.  When we got them a few days ago, I was even more impressed.......until he tried them on. He currently wears a size 12 and that is what I ordered. He couldn't even get the front half of his foot in them. I held on to them (in case I needed to return the second pair as well) and ordered another pair 1/2 size bigger. They came today. Still can't get his foot inside. The problem isn't the length. The problem is because the top stitching of the tongue starts right about the middle of the arch of his foot so you can't pull it back far enough to slip a foot inside. He doesn't even have high arches. Out of curiosity and false hope, I took the laces completely out and pulled the tongue back as far as it would go and still no luck. I don't dare order a 13, because I feel like even if he could get his foot in, once it's inside it'll slosh around. The shoe seems like it would be very roomy given the square toe, but that top just doesn't have any "give" to it. They are such a cute shoe, exactly what I wanted and really seem like a good quality product, but they just won't work. Now I will have two pair to send back.