Thanks to Amazon's great return policy, I returned the jeans. I was unhappy with the light weight of fabric and color/finish of the jeans, which are inadequately described on the products page.  Note that I already have a couple of pairs of Lee's that I bought locally on sale which I love, and expected pretty much the same product.  As it turned out, I mistakenly ordered jeans that apparently are supposed to look like they've been worn and washed and faded over the period of a year or so, when what I wanted was the nice looking jeans like those I already owned.  Impossible to determine weight of fabric or real color/finish on the product's description page, which really needs some work.  I assume Lee still makes good jeans, but can't figure out how to order them.