I work in a rough and tumble environment but need to wear business casual. I only wear these pants. No other pants seem to work as well. I buy several at a time. They are the best fitting and they have a little give to them so they work with me not against me as I move about my day. The pockets are strong, they hold a heavy work radio in place. I wish they were easier to find. Now days I can only get them here at Amazon because the other store I used to buy them at don't carry them.  I wash them inside out in cold water to keep the color but this last batch said that they were made to avoid color loss. That might be new. I think they wear well but older versions have faded. I don't mind the fading given that they are just work pants.