I thought these shoes were cute and because they are Softspots I figured i would give them a try. First I ordered the D width as that is usually what i wear. These have to be the most narrow D width shoes I have ever tried on. So i sent them back and ordered again in the 4E figuring that should be perfect.  Well this pair is barely wider than the D.  The toe box is deep enough but not wide enough and the heel is a bit loose. I wore them around the house to see if they would loosen up but unfortunately I wore them outside and now cannot send them back. My last resort is to see if the shoe repair shop can do something to stretch them out enough so I can wear them.