this would have been so much better than what I had when I was a kid. My daughter is lucky we have better traning bras available these day. For some reason I never received these from my amazon order, they were shipped, then amazon canceled and returned them, and refunded my money, which worked out in the end when I was able to find them locally. These are not super supportive for girls who need more support, move on. I would only suggest these for girls in the budding stages when they simply need extra layers.