I found these boots in copper kettle brown in a local western wear shop and liked them so much I bought a 2nd pair in black on Amazon.  Both pairs were very comfortable right out of the box, well made, and obviously a financial steal.  I wear them riding and the soft uppers--even though they are synthetic leather, or maybe BECAUSE they are synthetic leather--didn't rub.  That's a big deal. They also look great under jeans when I wear them to work or out with friends.  I'm thinking of getting a 3rd pair.