I have worn the targhee for years now and love them. This time I tried the Gypsum and the tongue as it meets the lace area rubs on the upper part of the foot on the left one only. So I returned them and got the targhee. I had the same problem with them too. It is sewn bunched at the tongue are and also if I tighten the laces the heel slips. I have never had this problem with keen's before. Very disappointed.