It was ok because I had the pins from the old band, but they're so cheap--Why not just include two?  And the band is really quite orange with a brown-ish tint. Good quality band, though.  Not great but good.  I also got a Timex band for a different watch (different size) and it was much better. A thicker padded band, pins included, and the pins had teeny little knobs so they were really easy to open and close them when putting the band on.  Easy-peasy.