The thing I've learned about buying lucky jeans is that you can't count on a pair of 181s fitting you in a certain size, just because a different pair of 181s fit you in the same size. The color (as in Love Train) is often indicative of not only a different fit, but also quite often a different % cotton and it's just a crap shoot as to what will fit and what won't.  These shrunk in length more than my other 181s so a bit disappointed after I washed them or I'd give 5 stars. The color is really nice and dark though with minimal fading and next to zero whiskering, which I was looking for.