Returned these jeans for 2 reasons - the whiskering on the fabric was a bit too severe around the crotch and the fit was a bit snug. I previously bought these in a 10 and they were big on me so I ordered an 8 and they were a bit small, obviously cut much slimmer. I have several pairs of levis with the perfect waist thing and they are really great - look good and feel good (without being old lady mom jeans).