These are very stiff, but they are work boots, so I expected that.  I felt the insoles encouraged me to walk on the insides of my feet.  My foot is not so much wide as it is fat on the top, so these were too tight.  I wear a 10 in my tennis shoes with plenty of room in the toe box, but this size 10 had zero room at the end of the shoe.  My heel also slipped out when I walked in them.  Still all in all a nice shoe, just not good for me.