After measuring my hand 9 5/8 I still ordered the large and it fits nice and snug without cutting off circulation and they sure can be used as a liner and or a glove alone. I will not buy a different pair again. I am actually going to purchase another set just in case they change their recipe.
Alaskan 20 knot wind at 32 degrees these gloves repelled the cold unlike my pair of NF gloves. Not that they were actually windproof the cold still got through, but better performance than the NF glove that I mentioned before.

For real heavy duty weather I'll search for a size X-Large or a Large Large outer shell glove. I will post my find with the perfect combo.  Please note. I have never heard of this brand, but it seems like it could blow away the most commonly known ones out there.

Update I paid 29.99 on November 8th for these liners/gloves That is $8.56 more than todays listed price! To date my purchases for the past 3 months the products have steadily dropped in prices..

The popcorn machine I paid 269.01 on November 19th 2012 and now today 12/4/12 it is 29.02 Cheaper...Now it is $239.99