I was SO excited to finally find a pair of jeans that sit AT THE WAIST and not "just below the waist". But could not find them here locally. I have 3 other pair of Lee Riders jeans and all are in a size 12 but too short in the rise and I wanted new ones to sit AT the waist, but these pairs at least fit perfectly in a size 12.

Well this new pair was also a size 12 but I was not able to even zip it up! The sizing was so off that there was a 3 inch gap between the two zipper sides. I would have needed a size 16 to be able to zip these up. They were VERY small and the fabric was the same as the others but extremely stiff and itchy. I am so unhappy and will be returning them to Amazon. I found some terrific at the waist jeans by Gloria Vanderbilt at Costco for half the price and they fit like a charm.

If you buy these go at least one of not two sizes up from your normal size! and hopefully they'll soften up in the wash. I would not recommend them. Lee really blew it on the sizing of this classic jean!