Bought these for my husband since he had a rash from the metal buckle on his belt. Take off the belt and it went away - put belt back on so as to keep pants up - it returned. I suggest suspendars and bought these for him. He says he wishes he would have gone the suspender route a long time ago. He loves them and I'm a heroine for buying them and making the darn rash a thing of the past. He also says he is so happy not to have to keep "hiking" his britches up all the time belt or no belt. Happens to some of us when the sands in our hour glass shift a bit with age.