they are nice, just a little tighter in the tab than i wanted.  i wear them when we have air soft matches.  they do their job.  a little on the thin side, which is good in the hot days of summer.  just wish the band around the top was a little truer to size...or maybe it's me.  i would purchase them again though....in the same size as a size bigger would be too big everywhere else....i can wear them, just more snug than what my pant sizes are regularly.