I give this 4 stars because they were still thinner than I expected and hoped. They are definitely not the thinnest socks I've bought, but I like slightly more heft to them for durability and comfort. I have had these for a couple months and they get cycled into my daily dress sock rotation, and so far that is my only complaint. For comparison sake, my ideal sock is a ribbed Perry Ellis sock, which unfortunately they don't have on Amazon. I've been lazy and not felt like going back to Macy's, but I may have to in order to grab more. If you prefer your dress socks on the thin side, you will likely be pleased with this dockers sock. So far they are holding up pretty well, though it has only been a couple months.