Ordered these based on reviews I read. Pro's are traction looks good, height is good, comfortable, stylish. I don't think it says anywhere, but the Thinsulate is 200, not the beefier 400. The one con for me was the fur top. It looks nice, but it makes the boot large on top because it sticks out some, and thus I cannot place my jeans over the boots. This forces me to either leave them scrunched up above the boots or try to tuck them in or buy flared jeans, neither of which is acceptable for me. They will be going back tomorrow. Vasque Snowburbans work just fine although a little pricier. If they work work for you great, because they are nice looking and comfortable, although the Thinsulate is on the light side.