Sounds weird doesn't it. I don't like any heel on my shoes but decided to try these Oxford Skechers out. They are very soft and the leather upper feels good. The toe box is a little narrower than the other Skechers but it is acceptable. Although these are not going to be a great shoe , they look good to go out in and will look less sports orientated than my other shoes. In all. a well made shoe. If you don't like the flat no heel lift in shoes then these are for you. They have a very soft sole.  To update my previous review I would like to add one more comment. I said that these were my first shoes with a heel. The reason for this was that I had been wearing orthotics and either brooks or asics with motion control and together these devices completely ruined my leg inner tendons. After wearing Vivobarefoot only for 5 years my balance and athletic ability has come back in my legs. These were the first shoes in 5 years I have bought with a slight heel. So far I have had comfort and flexability from them. They wear well and the toe box has stretched to my foot formation. Skechers and Vivo have given me back my legs for training, surfing and all the other things I do. Skechers are a quality and well engineered shoe. I commend them and give their company thanks and credit for their innovation in making good foot wear. Think carefully about the shoes you buy and the devices people may sell you to put into your shoes. These new products can do more damage than good. Get shoes that are natural and comfortable.