I bought these for my husband.  They are just ok.  Fabric is very thin, almost silky...we were looking for more of a thick, cotton board short.  My husband is 6'3'' and these were a bit too short for my taste, he doesn't seem to care much about that.  He wears a 38-40 waist band and the 2XL were a bit big for him, we should have ordered the XL.  But he still wears them.