I had to order 2 sizes larger than what I normally wear and they are still snug. Will have to find thin golf socks. Beyond that, they are quite comfortable. I haven't had to buy golf shoes in many years, so I was surprised at how the styles have changed (not for the better!) had a very hard time finding any that resembled the traditional old saddle shoe style. Was pretty happy to find these. Wished the color choices were better, but the neutral will go with anything. Overall very pleased with the shoes. Would give them 5 stars but sizing is an issue. I'm a 8.5 and originally ordered a 9 - way too small. I sent them back for a size 10 and could really use a half size larger- so be careful when ordering or you will have a lot of extra shipping fees like I did! :(