These gloves are really good quality and insulated.  They have the flip top thumb in addition to the fingers which I have found to be necessary.  Flip tops without the thumb are worthless because they still require you to take off your gloves when you need your thumb to perform a task like texting or digging in your purse etc.  I returned these though because they are too big for me.  Best starting at women size medium hands on up.  I have women size small hands so they are too big for me.