I have been wearing 509s for a couple of years now.  I ordered 2 other styles with this order.  Those 2 were exactly what I expected; however, these 509s have excessive fabric in the front.  It's almost like they were made in reverse. I fully understand these are loose fit.  But, big pillows of fabric between the zipper and the pockets looks really strange.  Perhaps these are made for guys with a gut below the waist but they sure aren't what they used be.  And as other reviewers have noted,  the fabric quality has really deminished.

I rarely order clothing, shoes etc online.  The odds of something not fitting or being different are just too high.  However, the special Amazon ran included free return shipping and sure enough they honored that.  Levi's  may be going downhill but Amazon is still the worldclass leader in online retail.