bought these pants for my 94 year old mother who wanted some white jeans but with a normal waist.  When we go to the malls all we can find are hip huggers and pants for 18 yo skinny girls.  Mom weighs the same she did in college so its not that she is plus size or anything she is just smart enough to want "age appropriate" clothing.  She loves these pants and considering I purchased them without telling her first I think that is a huge endorsement for the product.