I don't know why I thought I could get a perfect fit without trying the jeans on! These are nice looking jeans but they were a bit big and long (I'm not short). I thought they fit like a "tall" size. I ended up trying on 7 different styles of Lee jeans and found 2 pair that fit nicely - and one of them I did buy online. I still consider that successful shopping! I read other reviews that also said the fit was loose and long. If you are inbetween sizes, go smaller.