These gloves really are windproof and waterproof, my hands stay warm so far to -28....However I just cant bring myself to use them fully on the job. I try to save them for easy jobs, that I know won't damage them. So if you are wondering how much punishment they'll take I cant say for sure. I use them when I am hammering, moving tools, hoses, gauging tanks, equip., etc., in snow ice and wind. I have gotten them wet several times, they are still like new. Good gloves!!