I thought that these would be such cool pants at a great price. In my mind, I was looking for a leather looking, jegging type of pant to wear with knee high boots and a sweater. I tried them on and the crotch does not stay up and they look like a wet garbage bag because they are so shiny. I am only 5'5, which is an average height, so I am not sure why the crotch does not stay up. These look more like a costume type of pant than something classy for a nice outfit. The quality is not that great. These would be perfect for dress up, but just didn't fit the bill for what I was looking for. I will keep them for Halloween or some other fitting occasion.