These boots aren't as high quality as the other Docs I've had in the past, the tongue of the boot seems a bit too short, and the leather seemed to need far more conditioning than other boots I've recieved. Once they were conditioned the leather quality seems to be ok. I also recieved a MEN's 3 instead of a WOMEN's 3, but it's ok because I wear them with thick winter socks anyway. With the steel toe I don't think a smaller size really would have worked. All in all these boots are serviceable, but not the quality I was expecting for the brand name.