i love wrangler Ultimate Riding Jeans... In the regular rise, you need to order a size down as they are generous in fit and stretch a bit when riding/wearing.  I was looking for a different cut, the regular rise on a short gal (5'3") tend to look like granny panties. Don't misunderstand, they are my GO TO jean. But I wanted something a little trendier/ sexier. I tried these and I love them. But they are cut more like a junior jean, maybe its just the lower rise? And I returned for a size up in this jean.  IN REVIEW: take time to consider,  "read" the cuts and rises of the jeans and order accordingly. Don't get hung up on sizes, order what fits. You just cant go wrong with Wrangler. and if you are a horse gal, these are the most comfortable to ride in - and the no gap waist is a bonus!  I gave 4 stars, not 5 because the fits are SO drastically different in the different rises.  BUT THEY ARE WORTH 10 STARS!