These are great boots. I love the black oiled leather. They are extremely comfortable. The soles are very flexible. They're very light weight. The calves seem to be big but my calves are 14". The 8.5M in black doesn't run small. It seems very true to size. That's not good for me because my feet are narrow so even with pads inserted I need to wear very thick socks with these. That will make them too hot for So. Cal. so I'm returning them. Amazon is selling these at a great price. I highly recommend them for average width feet.