I bought these for their color & price. They are less expensive than the Moab Ventilator, of which I own a pair and really like. These fit great, better than my Moabs did when they were new. I noticed the Phoenix Ventilator have a waffle sole and do not bare the label Vibram. Where my Moab's sole lasted for several years, I've had these Phoenix for only a few months and I am noticing heel wear already. It must be because the sole is softer. A good shoe, but I think the money I saved will be reflective in the shoe's lifespan. Still... I really like these shoes.