I decided to try the womens ExOfficio undies.  In reading other reviews I bought the next size up as they were running on the small size.  I now have two pair which are very comfortable with no creeping up to places you don't what them to go.  The material is nice too.  I did removed the back label because it was rubbing on my lumbar spine.  This product washes nicely.  I would purchase other pairs when needed.  I love the full cut style which it known in my house as my " big girls".  My husband has worn this brand for 15 years.  He now has some new replacements.