This is my third pair in black (bought these about a year ago). Every other time I've gotten a new pair, I've had to break them in, which I like--I like the snug fit. These were loose from the first time I put them on. I should have exchanged, but was too eager for the new pair. I can tuck jeans into these comfortably. For me, this is a negative point, as I like them best with tights and skirts; if I wear only tights, these look sloppy. My brown ones (to which I then compared them) are much more snug. I hope I just got an off pair, because these are otherwise perfect: neither too dressy nor casual; just the right heel height for comfort; enough room in the toes to wiggle comfortably; thick leather that holds up well.