I wear these to work daily I love them so much I bought 2 more pairs I am a dickies fan but as you know with Dickies you have to find the correct style because they tend to run different for each style. My job requires a lot of movement so I wanted something loose at the same time comfortable for me I am in retail. they work perfectly I will but more in the future. Ladies they are loose around the croch area but it is fine for me since I have to wear a uniform shirt also. Washing they do fade but they are black and they do attract a lot of lint so I keep a lint roller with me but it isn't to much to handle for me.