This was a gift for a big, lovable guy from Church. (I purchased the pale greenish one, too)He was so surprised when I took it to him. He nearly wept when he called me back to say they fit the best when he is standing up. Said," I need to lose just a little weight so I will feel good about sitting down." Then he said "these are the best shirts I have EVER owned." Thank you Amazon and G.B.