I wanted a hat for after the gym where I sport a tail, ponytail. I pin that sucker up within an inch of it's life with pens galore. So the first time I put on the hat I was expecting on and go but if you wear your tail high as I do, you will have to forget about sticking it through the hole or take out the pens and lower the tail. It is warm, fits well, looks cute and works for under hoodies. I would have liked the hole higher. For those men or ladies who wear the tail lower to the neck, you in good. The hat will last and it is warm.