If you have ever noticed black that is not really black, but kind of faded you will NOT like these pants.  If on the other hand you have no idea what I am talking about - you may just like these pants.  They stretch quite a bit and had no muffin top although they were tight (in all the right places).  I just wanted a true black pair of pants and returned these and bought something new that while 3x as expensive - I'm sure I'll be happier with.