Ended up not really a fan of the color. There weren't any surprises, looked just like the pic. I just changed my mind. I forgot that I had trouble with the KD toe cleavage and tight shoe box on a previous purchase. For those who like the brand, built well, good craftmanship and worth the sale price (35$ for the suede), although it dropped 10 bucks after I bought it. Just not the brand for me.