After reading about the sizing issue of the pants being too small at a size 36 (maybe 37) I could not find 38's in any color, so I took the leap and bot 40's. they are loose and gather a bit right at the waistline as was too be expected, but these pants are meant to be loose, and actually looked good even with my shirt tucked in. I bought 2 pair . Great value,try to find quality cargo pants anywhere cheaper.