Though I absolutely LOVE these boots I had to send them back.  I live in New England and since they arrived we have been slammed with storm after storm, 2 weeks now.  Now I know why they were invented in the dry southwest and not here.  Slush with salt would ruin the leather.  Just not worth all the trouble and for the price I would not get enough wear to justify the price.  It's days like this I wish our climate was more like California.