I have loved Alfred Dunner for years, but I have finally found the perfect pant for me. I am at the Lowe end of plus sizes, after having a considerable amount of weight. I am 90 years old, and I have shrunk from a height of  5 fi. 8.5 to 5 ft. 4 inches. (I still feel tall.). Perigee are too short, but A.D. Offers short length, and my perfect size is 18w short. I love them, as well as other Alfred Dunner fashions.