I do like these pants. They are very sturdy and have good color. I have typically worn lower rise pants, and so I appreciate the modesty of these that sit slightly below my natural waist. That being said, I think the fit my be a little off for me. I am long waisted, 5'8" and 130 lb. I think these pants are cut for a larger hip than mine, and a slightly shorter waist. (The relaxed fit is very relaxed/ loose in my hip area, but the waist is a bit tight). I think that as I wear the jeans, the stiff fabric will soften and drape and fit better.