I have to say these jogging pants I thought were great and even though the price was steep, they were really comfortable and flexible not tight like most other jogs, however after having these for a only for a few months have lost 3 pairs with holes forming in the crouch area, highly disappointing and very cheaply made.  Now I will just go to the local Walmart and purchase the Starter jogs, they are a lot cheaper and don't have to pay for shipping.