I'm used to the WT10's, the ones people complained about, how the toe curled up like a clown shoe. Personally, I love the fit a LOT better than these new WT20v2's. I HATE the fit of the 20's because1) the toe box now is taller, 2) the material is more "crisp" than the 10's, 3) the fit is longer; my 10's in a size 9 are shorter than the 20's in an 8.5! I wanted to love these two pairs of shoes that I ordered, because the deal was the best! Two for the price of one! But I hate them, so they're both going back. The only good thing are the colors, but that's it. I'm going to get more 10's while I can still find them.