I have owned (what I assume are) the previous version of these and loved them. These, however, are a step down from them. The material is thinner, and there is no double layer in the important area of the crotch. even the waistband is thinner, and thus less comfortable. I am disappointed overall. They aren't horrible, the seams aren't unraveling or poorly stitched, but they are no longer the quality I am looking for.