I had a hunch that ordering shoes without trying them on first might be a mistake & it was.  The shoes didn't fit as expected.  I ordered my usual size but these slid against the back of my heel.  They also had the arch support forward of where my arch is positioned. They weren't right for me but they are great looking shoes - very light weight too.  The cushioning felt substantial.  I will give applause for the way Amazon accepted these as a return.  No return shipping charge so the process was very easy.