The only reason I gave it 4 stars is my own issue - not reading the description carefully. I should have gotten a pair with more of a liner. We recently moved to a place in the mountains and being from So Cal we had no cold/snowy winter weather shoes/clothes...and the boots work well.  My daughter wore them while she was here and she loved them...not good for walking, but great for going back and forth to the car when it's snowy/muddy...