I order these and the Wallflower "O" Vintage jeans. This pair I got in a size 9 and could have got a 7. They are huge. Warning: the waist is bigger. (I'm generally a size 9, but can go 7, 11 depending on brand. I' 5' 4") So if you are "hippy" like I am, order a size down. But if your thighs are bigger--order your size and purchase a belt. After I wash and wear I will review the product again if anything miraculously changes!! (See my review about the Vintage "O" jeans.