My husband is picky about his boxers.  Really picky.  Really really picky.  His favorite pairs from Jockey were discontinued a few years ago and he was running low on his stockpile of brand new Jockeys and we knew he wouldn't be able to buy anymore.  He tried many other pairs to replace his beloved Jockey and nothing came close.  I was going crazy trying to find him another pair.  Then it hit me to search Amazon for the best rated pair with all the requirements he wanted, and lo and behold here we are.  His new favorite pair.  He actually likes these a lot!  He's admitted that they're still not as good as his old Jockeys but they're pretty close and he's happy with these as a replacement.  They are definitely thinner than the old Jockeys, but he likes that and says he feels a little more ventilated.  I will now be stockpiling these in case these are ever discontinued!