the "product" is fine--it is what i expected. perhaps longer than i wanted but i'll just have to tuck them in. there seems to be this big vacancy space between medium-too tight and large which some enterprising cloth maker should fill--medium-large.  oother than that they're perfect for v-neck t-shirts. oh the v could be a bit more of an actual V. i buy these so my undershirt doesn't show but it sticks out a bit if i leave the second button open.