I was looking for a nice pair of boots to wear this winter and thought these would do. I wanted to stay away for what I feel is the clunkier style of uggs. These looked like a slimmer/dressier version. When they came in the mail I found that they are just as clunky if not more so and I did not like the fit. I returned them purely as a matter of personal taste. The sole of them would have been great for ice and snow.