These pants were shipped to me with a belt loop missing the stitching on the top. Therefore the belt loop hung down and did not function as a LOOP. I desired to wear these pants at a public speaking engagement and did not have time to ship them back so I stitched the belt loop back together. Beyond that these pants are great. I even spilled CLP (gun gleaning solvent) on the leg of my pants and was very irritated that I would be walking around with a large stain on them. However the pants either repelled most of the oil or absorbed it somehow. The stain was not visible without CLOSE inspection after a few minutes. Very happy with the pants; minus the defect they had when shipped. That is the reason for 4 stars instead of 5.