I ordered 2 pr. of these in for my stepson Nathan. He is a big guy & says he is not picky when it come to pants but you sure could've fooled me. I finally found these at a very affordable price considering the quality. When they arrived I insisted he try them on immediately. They fit just fine, at least the way he likes them to fit & he really likes the loose fit & design style. Darn guy was running around in the winter time in shorts, that's all he had to wear! Generation X is alive & well?