Well I sent back a size 9eee. the boots run large. I tried the 8.5eee, on felt a little heel rub. I  wore them for a couple hours the first day. I  put them on today. Im gonna keep em . They fit good , look good, just what ive been looking for. So order them a half size smaller and I think most people will agree . These are great boots.
 Amazon is the  best. thanks for putting ur customers first.