I do really love these pants but the sizing screwed me up a bit. I read the waist size and it would have put me in a size 10 when I am normally a 4 or 6! What they don't say is that the entire back waistband is elastic. Order your regular pants size and you will be just fine, don't read into it too much! Also, these are a low rise pants. If you like traditional uniform pants you will hate these but as a younger person who is used to a lower rise pants, I love them. They sit a few inches below the belly button.