These really seem to be well made pant's. They fit pretty well and appear to be well made. I have one issue though. The description of the pants is wrong on Amazons website. The descritption of the pants says that these are relaxed fit. That's only partly true. They do have an expandable waist, however, they are not cut "generously" in the seat and thighs. The main drawback to these pants from Savane ..... The price is all over the place on them. Are polyester/cotton blends now precious materials ?