Finally found the right pair of tactical pants! These are truly awesome! I have been searching for a comfortable tactical pant high and low, I wrote a review on the vertX pants too, as I said in that review I am a mobile guy and it's a must for me that my tactical pants don't inhibit my mobility (the vertX claims to stretch but does not) if I can't do a deep squat, lunge, kicks and knees in them then there's a problem (not because it's likely I'll need to kick or knee anyone but if you can't move freely then it could be an issue in many more likely scenarios; climbing/jumping for example). These pants pass the test, they do not limit mobility AT ALL! They are SUPER comfortable! Look good too, not too military looking so when wearing around town you won't attract too much attention. Highly recommend!