I gave them away, I was going to send them back, they were my first experience ordering shoes on the internet (definitely not my first online order, I do most of my shopping online) they were wide enough for my toes, they felt wonderful slipping them on, they garnered compliments the first few hours I wore them. The but in the title is that I have bad knees and arthritis in my big toe (darn getting old!) and even this mild heel bothered me. :(  So, the shoe, beautiful, if you wear heels, this will work for you, if you have knee or feet problem even this shorter chunky heel may give you problems. I gave them to a friend at work because I am one of those people who prints the return label and then never gets the return done in time! (it really ticks me off about me!) They look really great on her and she loves them. I recommend them if you don't have any issues...I wish I could have worn them, they are awesome with jeans!!