I love Minnetonka Moccasins, but these came today and when I opened the box I was shocked and disappointed.  First of all I normally wear a size 9, and my other mocs are a size 8 and too small now, so I ordered a 8.5.  These are larger than my 9's!  Second; The shoes looked worn, so I used socks when I tried them on, and the brown suede stained my socks!  I am returning them, ordering another pair in a size8 and different color.  I know Minnetonka's are good, but not this pair. Don't know what went wrong, but lately haven't been having good luck shopping on Amazon.  Hope it gets better.