I read the reviews an many brands, saw that recent reviews were not kind to this product but decided to give it a try based on older good reviews.  Trust the new reviews.  These underwear have started to come apart after just 5 washings.  Many reviews have said that the quality of these briefs has declined now that manufacturing has moved away from our shores.  I don't know what these briefs were like when made here but they sure stink now.  Don't waste your money!  I got Dockers brifs too and love them.