I used to wear Hanes udnerpants and even "survived" the shift to double sizes, however their quality degraded to a state which forced me to look for a solid alternative (the material became paper thin and the pants didn't hold what they had to hold in place). The Dockers seem to be what I was looking for. They are of good quality, they are comfortable and they wash nicely. The waist rubber comes up a little higher than most underpants, but that is just fine with me.