The pants are well made and are pretty comfortable.  The length seems about a size longer than it should be, i.e. I should have ordered one size shorter for the correct size pants.  I can hem these, so thats fixable.  Plus I would rather pants be longer and I hem them than they be too short, and be unusable.

The downside, for me at least, is the elastic waist.  I ordered pants with a specific sized waist.  I did not order a 36 - 44 sized waist, I ordered a 42.  The elastic squeezes and constricts when I am sitting, where as normal pants would move with you, these stay put and creat pressure points.  I can only hope that the elastic wears out quickly or I lose enough weight that the elastic is unstretched, then maybe I will have paints that fit as they were intended to do so.

I would not buy these again, however, they are quite well made pants.  If they sell a pant without an elastic waist, I would give that a 5 outta 5.