These leggings are designed for a short and tiny person (they don't stretch). My daughter is size 4 in women's and they wouldn't even stretch past her knees and she has slender legs. They also ship FROM CHINA... They tell you to return them to China with a cost of at least $20 to you (in the original plastic packaging). Don't do it! They only later tell you of their American address for returns if you complain more. They tell you the actual sizing is in the fine print even though the title calls them "Women's" tights. Total scam and rip off.