I ordered these boots in my normal size 8.5M...twice. They feel more like an 8.5 NARROW....so I ordered a 1/2 size up.  Huge difference in comfort.  The boot itself is very well made and a notch above the rest in terms of overall quality and style.  When the leather softens, they'll look even better!  I own several pair of Frye boots.  They're worth the $$$.  Combined with Amazon's great customer service...I highly recommend these boots!