... and not -quite- as much room for a big muscular butt and quads as I would like (but not bad, unless you're a powerlifter or track-cyclist). Not a whole lot of 'package' space either, in case that's a concern for you. They ride much lower than comparable Carhartts, which may or may not be your thing. If you ride a motorcycle (or work underneath kitchen sinks), these will probably expose your crack. On the other hand, if you have a belly, these will sit beneath it more comfortably than "high-rise mom-jeans" (Carhartts) of similar cut. Still, it's between these and the Carhartt "Loose fit Straight leg": you have to pick one if you miss Levi's 569 which turned into teeny-bopper garbage a couple years ago now.