What can you say about briefs?  They either work for you or not.  I've gone with both BVD's and FOTL over the years but have noticed the Fruit of the Looms are most comfortable.  I order only when the old ones start losing their support and stop doing their job. This is the first time I've ordered my tightys online.  Right off the bat at first try on, I could feel these are noticeably thinner than the ones I last bought at the store; there's no way they will last as long as my current set.  Either there is a different quality and/or price break for e-orders or the quality all around has thinned out.  I suspect the latter as with so many items the last few years.  What I'm noticing is that by the end of the day, they feel more like jockeys than briefs.  Sad to say, my favorite FOTL have "let me down".  Hmmm, maybe Haines?