i just gave them a 3 because they are too snug (and i should take the blame for that i suppose.) had there been a a size vs. small/medium/large indicator i wouldn't have had a problem. the liners fit inside my OLD ARMY ISSUE shells from 50 years ago. just what i needed. 50 year old gloves i can wear in central Georgia---whatf? 1 time every couple of years? go figure. but thre liners are good!