I have a update on this purchase.  The side stiching came apart on the first pair. I concacted Keen and I jumped through all of the hoops and then never got a response.  I have 22 pair of keens. I will not buy another pair. I have had good luck, but the first issue, they ignore my concerns. I put these on and they were very comfortable. I have another pair of the smooth leather and I will return them to get another pair.