The first initial fit is good, but they are very stretchy....or should say they stretch out.  Definitely suggest going a size smaller. I first bought 11/12...too big.  Recently purchased 9/10.  Again, fits initially but but became a little baggy in the rear after wearing them for a couple hours.  I am 5'9" 33waist 39 hip.  Color stays well in proper wash of Cold.  Deeper pockets in front.