These shoes, Vans Unisex Authentic Lo Pro Skate Shoes, were a gift for my niece from the Netherlands. She was about 18 at the time and this was something she wanted. She made it clear that this shoe was the one she wanted. She is in college in Holland and wanted something comfortable with the style that is popular. She made the choice from many gift ideas and as far as I know she likes them very much. We ordered a number of things while her mother came here for a visit and Amazon was one of the few orders that came through before she left.