I ordered these to have a "dark brown" pair of slacks. they fit very well and true to size as indicated. The real trouble was/is the color. they are indeed "dark" brown....so dark in fact that you can't tell if they are "dark brown" or black. The photos in the add weren't very "colorful" either, so buy 'em at your own risk folks! Once again, the quality and size are "right on" as far as i'm concerned!