I have bought these Lee Jeans for years - but the ones referred to in this review were much stiffer than usual - and the fit was not nearly as good.  Although I got the same length I always do, these were at least 2 inches longer than what they were supposed to be (32 inches).  That means $20 more for alterations, once I finally find someone willing to do jeans.  Also, the seat was baggier, the hips were wider - and one leg was twisted a bit. I guess I'll keep them though because these jeans aren't the easiest to find.