I don't understand why that every pair of wide shoes are not wide. 2E. I have issues with my recent shoe purchases. The pattern for wide is not narrow or medium. It's wide. The product gets shipped fine but when received they're to small. I even went a half size larger and re-ordered wide. I tried stretching them to no avail. If you do order these products make sure that they are actually wide and actually your size. I wear an 11 E in all shoes bought at stores. I would assume that they would've been the same at other places as well.