after I ordered the 8.5 I was kicking myself and thought I should drop down to 8 since I was thankfully able to order the wider width - staff at seller were wonderful retrieving and changing the size for me before they shipped - so glad I requested to down size, the fit is perfect.  love the stylish heel, a nice feminine touch - they're a much deeper red than the picture indicated but I'm very happy with them and the whole experience - service was A+ when communicating to get the order changed - overseas shipping was just over 3 times the price of other shoes and boots I've purchased  - but still cheaper than buying in OZ ...