I like these pants because they are comfortable and they look good. I also like the pockets. However, I could do without the hammer loop, which is no problem because I just cut it off with a pair of scissors (I use a standard hammer holster with a steel loop that I purchase from sears to hold my hammer). The cloth hammer loop is really worthless as it requires one to fumble with it when trying to insert the handle of the hammer. Also, the hammer loop tends to snag onto anything in the area. The real problem with these pants is that the knees just do not hold up. Within a year, the knees will be holey. The "rip-stop" material is not all that it is made up to be. We had that stuff in our camouflage utilities in Vietnam and, in a short while, the clothes were just shredded (especially the knees).