These are extraordinary shoes, great looking and very comfortable. Unfortunately they did not come in a wide online, and are too small for me, so I am going to be returning them. I had to go to a brick-and-mortar sure to get the wide. Even at the brick-and-mortar store they were not in stock and they have to order them for me. Still the shoes are so great that it was worth the trip to the store.

I love this style because they do not look like clodhoppers when you wear them with slacks. That's why I purchased them in black.