I bought one pair in "Jungle" and they're perfect.  I have a true 30" waist, but in a 30" the hips and butt are too tight and they were above my knees.  The 32" was perfect across the board!  Great weight and feel on the "Wyoming" short - just a bit heavier in feel vs. the Lee "Compound" short.  The pockets are a little different between the "Wyoming" and the "Compound" so you may want to get one of each and see which you like.  I ended up buying 2 of the "Compound" style and 5 of the "Wyoming".  I love LOVE LOVE these shorts!!!