Then there is no other watch. The Forester has been reliable, lightweight, and strong. Most importantly, the band stays on. Most other watch bands fall off in my line of work within 4 months or so. I have had my other forester for 8 years and I am getting a new one because the other one went to hell and back (I had to change the battery and it still works just like new though). One of the best outdoor watches you can buy.