At last made the boots work!  I took the laces out of my Hi-Tec Women's St Moritz 200 Insulated Boot and put them in these Keen Boots, then the Keen Laves went into the Hi-Tec boots!  Now the laces that are in the Keen boots fit snug, you can make them tight and they stay tight.  The boots are comfortable when they are not slipping all around.  The Hi-Tec St Moritz 200 boots now have laces that are not as long but still work well and continue to be comfortable.  You can't go wrong with this combo.  I love both pairs of boots and they work well in combination with my Timberland Crystal Mountain snow boot.  What can I say I love boots and now have enough variety that my winter will be fun even if cold!

update>>>> wore them today again around the house. No matter how tight you tie these boots they rub on my ankle and the laces slip.  I have to decide what to do about that.

I do agree these are dark brown not black, but maybe someone found brown slate not black someplace!  I love the grape accents.  These boots seem super well built and fit very well!  They have a great toe protector that does not hurt you toes at all.  They seem warm so can't wait to try them out in the elements and trust me where I live we have plenty of cold days to wear them out.  They look nice enough to wear for everyday and also to play in.  Thank you Keen!

After a day of trying them out in the house, the laces are hard to lace tight because the slip.  If you do not have the boots tight near your ankles they will rub on the ankle bone and that hurts!  Make sure you get them laced tight.  If the laces were not so slippery you would probably be able to lace once and be done, but I was forever having to adjust them so that they would not rub on my ankle bones (the outside)

The height is nice not to tall not to short and they fit snug at the top if tied tight.  I continue to be happy with them as i wear them around the house, Sunday I will test them outside.

three great boots to make the winter livable.&nbsp;<a data-hook="product-link-linked" class="a-link-normal" href="/Hi-Tec-Women-s-St-Moritz-200-Insulated-Boot/dp/B000WUD8V6/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8">Hi-Tec Women's St Moritz 200 Insulated Boot</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-hook="product-link-linked" class="a-link-normal" href="/Timberland-Women-s-Crystal-Mountain-Tall-Lace-Up-Boot/dp/B004LLWB56/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8">Timberland Women's Crystal Mountain Tall Lace-Up Boot</a>&nbsp;and Keen Hoodo in the black and grape color!