Started out ordering these padded panties for my 3 1/2 yr. old daughter, but I should have listened to all the other reviews on not just these training underwear but all the training underwear. They just don't hold anything. I guess by the time they're 3, or older there's just too much urine for these kind of training pants to make much of a difference. They were made well, I liked the design, but they run way too big and they don't hold any urine really. I just ended up buying the regular undies in the end.