I decided that when I find one clothes I like, I will buy enough for the next ten years. I wear a black vest everyday, all day. This is a black vest, decent fleece. I'm 6'3, 235. 36/38" waist. Feels good, pockets zip from the bottom, hasn't pilled so far. bottom is hangs about mid-zipper. No logo, so I can have embroidered. Buy it.