Originally ordered a large since it said covered 34-38 waist. Wear 36-38 normally and these were almost snug. The length was about a 32" and I wear a 34 since I like them to drop to almost floor in back. These were at floor in my bare feet so wouldve been too short w/ shoes. Returned hassle free and ordered XL, which are a little too big at waist even w/ the ties pulled all the way but length was good so kept them. Washed them and no shrinkage so possibly could have used the large ones after all but happy w these anyway. Nice medium wt fabric but color not true brown, more olive brown.