These are nice boots with soft leather. They run big, especially in the heel. I usually take an 8.5 or 9, so ordered the 8.5. Even with a heavy sock they slip a lot in the heel. They also have little arch support and a very thin insole. It's possible an 8 would have been OK, but I'm returning them because the Bandolinos were a perfect fit and the slightly lower heel makes walking long distances easier on my back. Also, the heel is very hard, unlike some of the other boots this style. The Vibram-type sole is great for slippery weather, though.