These are actually really good. Sturdily constructed, of a strong, hard wearing material. They look good. The only trouble is that after the initial washing I noticed immediately that the waist fit a bit too snugly. So in the course of ordinary shrinkage, these will probably be too small within a years time, which is a much, much less than the life of this garment.

So my advice: get them one whole size bigger. They are definitely worth having if you can get the sizing right.