These pants are pretty close to perfect as basic denim work (or play) attire. They fit better than my old 560 loose-fit Levis, my previous favorite value jeans. The are made of a slightly lighter fabric, which might concern some, but which I actually prefer for the hot weather climate I live in. I haven't owned them long enough to comment on durability, but they feel as well made as Levis. To top it off, they were cheaper than the 560s. The only denim jeans I've ever worn that felt better were a pair of Calvin Kleins that normally cost around $200 (I bought a pair on a 50% off sale). Frankly, I can't see paying that much for ANY pair of pants, much less jeans. If your looking for denim jeans, you won't beat this value.