Seriously these are the best underwear ever! This might sound bad but let me tell you I use to buy hanes brand boxer briefs and they would get holes in them and the elastic would be coming apart within a year, the Ck. boxer briefs have lasted me over three years and are still holding strong! no holes no elastic damage.. just very bleached out.. And yes I wash all my whites in hot water and bleach every time. These underwear have probably gone through close to a thousand wash cycles with bleach.. Its unreal Im almost ready to enter them into the Guinness book! Worth every penny!