If you want to see what bad pants look like, order these.

I ordered 40x36 pants. The rise is huge.. up to my belly button.  I wear a 38 in jeans and a 40 in pants.  The pockets jut out on these like penis ears.

The crotch and rear are just cut horribly wrong.  I don't know who would wear these.  The material is horrible to boot, and they feel cheap compared to my dockers.

Skip these.