Have reached that point in life where the 505 Levis are the best fit. Ordered these through Amazon since the price was way better than elsewhere, and got just what was expected. One thing to pay attention to is that the weight of the denim used is different across the 505 line, depending on the color. I happen to like the "Dark Stonewash" as a starting color (it eventually fades out nicely over a number of washings) and coincidentally that color uses a 13 oz. denim that is a good sturdy fabric. Not as stiff as the 14.75 oz. denim used for the "Rigid" color, for instance, or as flimsy as the 9 oz. denim used on the "Blue Collar" 505's. Details of colors and weight of denim used can be found at the Levi's online store site.