I first bought these about 4 months ago for my husband for Christmas. I was skeptical because of the mixed reviews but I agree with what others have wrote - If you wear these LINERS as liners then they are perfect. My husband is in the military and these are great because they go up far enough to cover where his high boots go. He absolutely loves them. He has worn them under and over other socks and either way, they work to keep the mositure off his feet. They are intended to be worn under other socks but like I said, they hold up either way. Also, I've done a lot of shopping around and they are the best deal. Don't waste your money on the name brands that cost you $12.00 a pair. None have ripped or worn after 4 months on continuous use. I just purchased another pack because he likes them so much.