These shorts are great.  Soft yet durable.  I bought 2 pairs of these about 6 years ago and they just finally wore out after significant use - hence the replacements.  I switched between the pairs and wore them daily for everything from yardwork (I did 100's of hours of yardwork in these as I was in college) to boating, to frisbee, to camping.  These new ones feel about the same as far as quality goes - but only time will tell.  I hate the belt that comes with them - it is too stiff and hard to get off when the need arises and doesn't stay tight when you need it to either... major failure... so I threw them away... perhaps with a lot of use they would loosen up and be fine though... I didn't give them much of a chance.