slip these puppies on and your motivation and self respect will slip away like grains of sand in an hour glass. If you want to up the effect pair these with sweat pants. If you are trying to decide between this pair and let's say the phantom flop. I would go with the phantom. They appear to be of higher quality and durability which is clearly needed when treking to the laundromat, 7 eleven, or the strip club. They are also about the same price.