When you try these on, they seem to fit pretty well. The problem with NYDJ jeans is that as soon as you cut off the labels, put on the jeans, and walk out the door, they start to stretch out. Even though these have a fairly high rise, the waistband still ends up sagging down below the hips. The fit in the crotch area loosens up. They start to look real baggy around the knees. Infuriating!

I tried ordering a size smaller, but the next size down was definitely too small. (They were also about an inch shorter, although the length should have been the same.)

The fabric, which has a very nice soft feel when new, stiffens up after washing. All the more uncomfortable when the sagging begins.