i have dickies and all my pants and tops are great quality. now what the did to the material to save money. see trough the white pair is. even the label in the back you can read all of the info trough the pants. material hard stiff like tent like, noisy very noisy when you walk like rain coat. cheapppppp . i will keep it since i need them but would't buy again . (they fit great they get two stars)