I did not realize these were mens shoes. I put in Womans converse and these came up. The only thing it said was to order a size smaller. I did and they were HUGE because they were in mens sizes. I did see the M in the size but I thought it meant medium width. They really need to state clearly that these are for men or not bring them up when someone puts in WOMENS converse. But on a side note , they really seemed like nice shoes for a man.