When these driving shoes arrived I was impressed by how pretty they were. Leather is a nice color, and the shoe is nicely finished. BUT, the sole is stiff such that the heel keeps pulling my socks down (even with heel inserts). The leather on top is very stiff and hard and so my toes hurt on top. And, the little rubber davits on the soles squeak horribly when walking somewhere indoors. I wish I had returned them but I had worn them outside before their not-so-nice qualities emerged.