I didn't want an overly thick sock that one can end up with when ordering diabetic socks. I suppose they make them that way so they stay up. These were not overly thick which makes it easier for my already wide foot to slip into a shoe, They stay up, and they are dress. I'm not a diabetic, but I've become used to the fact that I have to consider searching for "diabetic socks" to escape the elastic or weave that marks my led between lower calf and ankle. Searching on wide tops has not given me the desired result. At the end of a day one can see how much return blood flow has been blocked by such socks. THESE SOCKS DO NOT CONSTRAIN AND DID NOT LEAVE MARKS, that's been my experience.