These pants are very comfortable and work well as business casual dress for my office.  I used to like dockers many years ago but then they changed them and I didn't like the way they fit.  I found some Hagar pants I liked for a few years then they changed then and again I didn't like the way they fit.  So while looking for a new pant that I liked I found these at a and tried them on.  I liked them but they only had one pair in my size.  I found them on amazon at a good price so I ordered 3 more pair.  I will probably order a few more pair before dockers decides to change them.