Perhaps I ordered the wrong size -- but these are really big in the waist. The legs feel good and they are nice and long.  since I'm tall, finding long tights is really hard -- these were perfect.  They are a little shinier then I expected.  I have other champion Capri tights that I love -- they were not this shiny.  But I am wearing them to my exercise class. I bought 2. Returned 1. Will try to make the one pair work. Thinking about ordering a smaller size to see if they work.