I have some ExOfficio pants I bought back in 2000 for $15 on the year end clearance sale. I wish I would have bought more of them as they are basically bullet proof. They are like dress cargo pants and that is what I am still looking for, but these being reviewed here are not those. These are very good but not nearly as thick of a material, nor as dressy looking, which is what I'm looking for (plus long lasting). I do enjoy the outdoors and these should be perfect for that. However I am still looking for some as durable as this company can make clothes and yet a bit more dressed up looking.