I ordered these pants because I was looking for tough jeans that can take a beating and these fit the bill perfectly. They are very stiff denim so it will take alot of time before they break in and seem to have a funny "new" smell like Hay or straw to them? But both things will eventually go away thru washing breaking in process. Also i recommend a good set of suspenders(Welch made in USA) to hold them up or the pants will hang off your a** too much and you will constantly be pulling them up,and also order up 2 sizes! over your normal waist size keep the length normally what you wear tho. If your waist is between 34-36 I recommend going 38.