I ordered these jeans because I can't ever find them in the stores. I ordered them in Indigo and they fit perfectly, a bit longer than my other 512's that I have bought at the store. After buying them, washing them and wearing them, I decided I wanted to get a pair in black. After reading many reviews, it sounded like the black ran large, so on the advice of other reviewers, I ordered them a size smaller than I would normally wear.  In my case, they did not run large and unfortunately, they are too small and I am returning them. I noticed that I cannot exchange them, I can only get a refund, maybe due to availabilty??  Anyway, love the Indigo, probably should have ordered the black in my normal size and they would've been just fine!