I followed the formula given when ordering these jeans to allow for the shrinkage in these shrink-to-fit jeans and all worked out well. They are sturdy and well made jeans and seem to be of the same quality my husband used to wear back when. I ordered them for my son this time. I had bought him Levi's pre-shrunk ones at a "high-end" store, a couple of pairs no less, and they all split at the seams after not much use. The receipt was gone by then so I couldn't return them and was out quite a few bucks!!! Was swearing off of the Levi quality at that point, but decided to go back to the shrink-to-fit style which seem to be of sturdier fabric than the pre-shrunks. I found them here at Amazon, as they weren't in the department store. So far so good. They don't look like they will unravel at the seams. Beware too of the "faded" ones, (as well  as those pre-shrunk ones) as I think they wash them in some chemicals which ultimately wears down the fabric----which is "the look" I guess....but don't expect them to last.....but some, I guess, like the look of jeans, etc., falling apart as they are being worn.