Love Keens, have owned them for years.  Thought I would try to find some online "less" expensive than a retail store.  Paid about 25.00 less for these, when they arrived was thrilled. (They were a requested gift)  After the first wear, the complaint came that there was something around the pinkie toe that made one shoe hurt, when I checked it, there was a huge bunch of fabric where the inside was sewn into the shoe RIGHT WHERE THE PINKIE TOE GOES.  I wanted to return them but the giftie said no and suffered with the pain, until I cut out the spot.  That tells me they were seconds, and not sellable in the retail market, which is why I got the $ discount.  Won't do it again, I looked like a fool. First and last time for this online purchase.  I hate purchasing things to wear online, as my success rate is 30% at best, so I won't do this again either.