Though was in doubt after reading some reviews, still bought my usual dockers and jeans size 31x30, iconic rigid color. Shipping was amazingly fast, size is perfect, color is great. Washed in cold water several times, size is still perfect, no shrinkage. One thing I didn't expect was that cloth/cotton is rather thin (light to mid weight) more like for warmer weather but it's more about product description - it would be nice to have cotton weight provided in description for all jeans not just these. Anyway, it's a good buy.