I have an older pair of 512's and the rise is about 10 inches. The pair I received from Amazon has a 12 inch rise. That is so high!!!! I can find 512's on other websites with the 10 inch rise, so I don't know what the deal is with these. Also the Levi's leather tag is smaller (1.25x2 inches) on this pair andis  waaaayyy smaller than the one shown on this webpage. Leg opening is 10 inches. The 2 percent spandex are also very stretchy and I should have gone down a size.