ive gotta say something though, which may be a factor in my bad experience... the shoes looked as though they were used when i got them. maybe they were. there were human hairs, complete with follicles on the insole that i had to clean out before trying them out. some grime on the bottom i scrubbed off too. gross. i returned em. i wouldve liked to give a NEW pair a shot, but its too late for that.