I like these shoes in the way that they are made in USA.  Quality is okay, not superior.  I ordered my normal shoe size and they are a little bit longer than I thought.  And I ordered the W width.  Somehow the middle part of the shoes are narrower than I thought though the front and heel parts of the shoes are wide enough.  I ended up returning them because for some reasons, the left side of the left shoe keeps rubbing the lower part of my ankle every step I take and it doesn't take long to feel uncomfortable.  The right shoe is okay.  I guess it's just my strange foot anatomy :-)  And I also like to have more arch support in these shoes too.