I bought these for swing/jive dancing. I've had some similar before that were nice and snug and just right. These shoes however are not. I followed what the other reviews said about order a half size up cause they run small. That just doesn't apply to this brand I guess. I ordered a half size up and they are exactly a half size bigger than what I need. Duh...I need them asap so I am just going to stuff a nylon in the toe. Also, the sides of the shoe on the inward part cut into my foot. It doesn't come up high enough on the sides and scrapes. I will be putting bandaids on that part so I can dance in them. They are nice and I am sure if you order the correct size they will be wonderful but the price+tax+shipping comes up to something similar to the more expensive shoes so please shop around.