I've worn these type of Dockers for years as part of my work ensemble. In the past, these pants seemed affordable, durable and comfortable...but no longer. I just received two pair from Amazon recently and I was very disappointed with the current quality of these pants for the price. The Dockers brand now uses nylon zippers and what appears to be thinner material. Anyone that has experience with nylon zippers, a few times in the dryer and they're toast. I guess it's time to look for another maker of this type of dress pant.