I love these "bulletproof" pants. Great for working. Very durable yet not too hot in the heat. Tons of pockets and a great fit too. They have an elastic system inside the belt area to automatically keep them at the right size. On a side note though, the company Cat5 commerce  messed up the other half of my order, as they claimed that a different style of the same brand 'propper brand' pants I ordered are shipped from a different location. They wound up arriving 6 weeks later. They did credit me 10 bucks though without asking, so that was nice. Im ordering more of these as shorts, as they are nice enough to wear out casually.