These pants are the best for men who really need pants that last rugged wear and tear. Got a pair for my son-in-law last summer and another pair for Christmas. Normally, a pair of pants lasts this young man about 2 months before the pockets, seams, knees or some other piece comes apart, tears, rips, wears out etc. These pants are built to last! and stand up to a 20-something's abuse. They also come in all imaginable sizes - a great thing since my son-in-law is a very tall young man. I agree with other reviews that the waist size runs a bit small but it is manageable.