I bought my first pair of these and was a little disappointed. I ordered a 'relaxed fit' but there's nothing relaxed about these pants! There is nothing to indicate that they fit as snuggly as they do and when I buy something I expect it to meet certain standards. These do not!!! Although they are beautifully constructed, superb material and quality they are very misleading on how they fit and that's what's important to many, I'm sure. For the price it's well worth the money, I guess, if only I could feel comfortable in them. I'll be returning these but looking for more that meet my expectations.