I truly believe these are the best quality shoes that I have ever owned.  I have purchased much more expensive shoes that have fallen apart within a year - if you don't like this style, don't buy them because they will probably NEVER wear out.  I love them, they are exactly what I was looking for - sturdy, comfortable, well-made shoes with soles that give good traction in ice/snow, they look great with cords or jeans.  They replace a similar pair of shoes that I have worn for almost 10 years now and I am extremely pleased with this purchase.  If the previous review concerns you I suggest you invest in a shoe horn. My old shoes also required a shoe horn the first few times I slipped into them but the elastic will begin to give slightly with wear.  Probably a problem if you have a very high arch (which I do not) as the top of the shoe will irritate the top of your foot, but in my case the shoes were broken-in comfortable from the moment I put them on with excellent support.  They are equally comfortable with thin or thick wool socks.  Love em!