I like the price, and my boys like the fit of both these and the boxer briefs. We've been buying FOTL for years and the underwear outlast almost every other brand we've tried. FYI - as our American waistlines expand, these companies apparently adjust their sizes in order to make us feel better. I now purchase a "smaller" size for my husband and son, not because their waistlines have shrunk, but because the underwear sizes have changed.