Levi stopped offering 505's in the colors that they used to. They also offer less sizes then they used to. I have worn 505's for years. 36 waist and 29 inch leg. But now Levi's offers fewer of the color choices in a 36 waist and 29 inch leg. I can't prove it but the material seems lighter to me as well. Unless I want 505's in my size in shades of blue I am out of luck. To summarize, less choice in colors of my size and cheaper lighter materials used.