I have been looking for a shoe which I could wear with different outfits.  These shoes are sytlish(I wore loafers the first time around).  They are comfortable and look great.  I wear them with different pants outfits.  I wanted some what we called penny loafers.  I was not sure they were making them again.  I found them, the price was greatly reduce, they are comfortable and look great.  I have decided that when I want shoes, try amazon first. I have purchased many shoes from them and rarely had to return any shoes.  Unlike most shoes sold in mall stores, they sell womens shoes that are stylish and above size 10.