When I got these boots I was really excited however they were so big around the calf and very uncomforable in the toes.  I have a size 13" calf so I thought these were going to fit perfectly however when I measured the opening it was actually 14" so you need some large lower legs to fill them out.  Plus the toes were really uncomforable and pattened leather does not stretch so I knew it would not get any better so had to return them.  Just very diappointed with how off the description was and what I got:-(.