These are the worst pair of high top shoes I have ever bought. They do not and will not stay tied. I can't walk 10 feet without these shoes coming untied. I have never ever had a pair of shoes that will not stay tied. Every god damn block I have to retie these shoes. They are the worst designed pair of shoes I have ever bought. I will never ever buy or recommend these shoes again. If I had another pair of shoes to wear, even tennis shoes in the snow I would send these back. They are garbage as far as I am concerned and definitely not worth more than a penny.