These pants were not what I expected. These are really tough...almost kevlar type material...no joke. I can barely move with them on lol.  I would recommend these when trekking through rosebushes, pirana tanks, and snow(probably not bad in the winter, but if these pants freeze up, you will be stuck...I guarantee it).  Maybe you just need to wear it down, but I don't have years to do that so I say pass on these. Dickies probably have other jeans a lot better than these.