I've been fortunate enough to be asked to be a groomsman in many weddings recently.  This is a tremendous honor, but it also requires an abnormally large number of tuxedo rentals.  They charge you at least $20 each time for the shoes.  So I bought these, figuring they'd soon pay for themselves.  I couldn't be happier.  These shoes look terrific and are simple enough to go well with nearly any style tuxedo.  They're not too pointy, not too flat.  They're very good quality and keep their shape well (although I do use shoe trees while not in use).  Well worth the reasonable price and highly recommended overall.