I have so many pairs of Clarks shoes, these only deserve 3 stars because I like how they look.  They are very snug and I ordered a 5 like usual, cannot wear thick sock, can only wear something like a nylon sock because of the tightness.  The toe also turns up, when you look at the picture you don't realize it does but it does, it is something to get used to. Took off one star for tightness and one star for the toes pointing up.  oh and even though the are snug they rub up and down on my achilles.  Had to place a band aid there.  I usually don't have to "break-in" clarks shoes but these I do.  Not really happy for an $80 shoe.