I swear this 12 is a solid 10! I am not saying that like I am "too big for my britches". I really like these pants. I wear a 12. I own a great deal of 12s but these pants run small in the butt and thighs. I am deployed and I needed a variety of cargo pants. These pants are soft, comfy, great colors but they run a little small. Order the next size up!