I have found that Dockers tend to run short on the inseam. Generally, I now order at least an inches longer than I normally wear and 2 inches might now be too much for that slightly gathered look at the shoe. The Cloud color fabric is different than the khaki color pair. The fabric feels stiffer and often come out of the dryer with creases. After the dryer, I spray the wrinkle and creases with water from a small spray bottle, smooth with my hand then leave on a hanger to dry. Works perfectly (this technique also works great on cotton button shirts where the button area gets wrinkled and curled from the dryer -just spray, smooth and let dry - beats getting the iron out.