So, to start this off right, I have had many hats like this, and this one is horrible. I picked it up because I needed a new hat on my job, and when I got it, the first thing I noticed was that the hook and loop sections were sewn on crooked. THen I looked the rest of the hat over. THe stitching was subpar and wouldn't hold up to any real use, and the hat just wasn't well made. I recommend you look elsewhere when buying a hat.