I ordered two of these pants some time ago... Blue ones, and these black ones.... The black ones I didn't like so much because the fabric is very thick and are very hot... For the winter maybe a good choice... However... the blue ones I love them... the fabric is great for summer... They're beautiful... I hardly need to iron them... and I try to leave them last for my laundry list, cause I find myself using them waaayyy tooo much.... I have orange and gray ones in my wish list that I plan to buy!!!