Ok, So my husband first purchased these shoes from like Rack Room Shoes or some place like that several years ago. Once they wore out (like 3 years later) we went back but they only sold these UGLY bright red and funky looking FILAs. We found that these specific black ones could only be purchased online. He's VERY picky about his shoes, they must be black, must be FILA, and must be these! The last pair I bought for him was back in like 2008, and they are still looking NEW! It's a very good product, wears long, and looks good!