This is a great jacket for what it is, a jacket that will keep you warm in cold city nights. NOT a jacket made for expeditions in the mountains. I laughed and commented on the other ladies review for 'assuming' its comparable to a 400 or 500 dollar goretex or completely waterproof jacket, when it clearly doesnt not say anything AT ALL about being waterproof or durable for negative 15 degree weather. So honestly, dis-regard her review on the grounds of foolishness. BUT! IF you do layer with a wicking thermal and zip up, this jacket keeps you extremely nice and warm.