These are okay "work in the yard" jeans, however they don't have anywhere near the good fit and feel of Carhart or even Dickies jeans.  They also lack the two extra belt loops that I love on Carhart and Dickies jeans and the material doesn't feel as substantial as higher quality jeans and they don't hold their shape as well.  I don't "hate" them, but I wouldn't buy them again.  That's my two cents worth.