It's kind of sad the way Columbia has cheapened their brand. The shoes are fine for work etc but I would NOT use them to hike in. The price was right and they do what I want them to do. The size seems alittle off( small) and the materials/build quality aren't the best. What was the "Mothers" name in the comercials..."Gurt" must be living large! And you will need to buy some better insoles.....