I was surprised at the poor quality of these pants (very thin material). I'm an old Levi's girl so thought these would be much thicker material. I'll make due with them but not buy these particular jeans again. I really had no idea how the Levi's had changed over the years since I hadn't bought a pair in years now. Very dissappointed actually. Bring your old Levi's back and I'm a loyal buyer.