Good pantts, I broke a pair in on a 3 day camping trip. they held up. The sizing is pretty close. I went with one size bigger just in case and its a good thing these pants have straps to tighten them up or they would have fallen off of me until I got my belt on. Roomy in the groin and thigh area, which is alway hard to find. Carpentar style dress pants, but more durable. Arrived eary and will most likely order more.