I needed these dance boots for a musical I was in.  The shoe is great and comfortable.  I like that they fold up small and take up less space in my dance bag.  However they run small.  I usually wear8-8.5.  I've learned with dance shoes to order larger.  I ordered size 10 womans and my toes went to the very edge of the shoe.  I returned them for an 11.  I hope this size works better.  I gave the shoe a 4 because it ran small.