If you know what a boardshort is, these are great shorts. There is NO liner. There is NO mesh. You're "free". That said, they work as they should. They're a great color. I was very happy with them. I've worn size 36 pants for many years. I purchased the size 36 shorts, I would not have wanted to have been any bigger. BUT that's the way these shorts fit, just understand that they're not baggy at the waist/hips because they're not supposed to be. (and they don't stretch)