These were great for awhile, they felt like just what I'd been looking for.  I put in about 250 miles on them and then the arch pain set in.  Then the heel pain.  Then my knees started hurting.  When I looked at the soles they were completely torn up at about 100 miles, but I kept plodding along because I didn't want to believe they were already falling apart.  If you run only about 20 miles or less a week and are neutral or a very mild overpronator, then you're probably fine.  Serious distance needs serious shoes, and these aren't it.