I ordered these pants for a camping trip. I wanted pants that would protect my legs, but not be super heavy and bulky. These pants were perfect. I was a little weary of ordering them because of the different product reviews. I ordered one size bigger than  normal. I have wide hips and bottom, and I tend to have a problem  with fitting the waist, but not my hips. They fit perfect. I love the little tabs that you can pull along the waist line tighten it. There are a ton of pockets. They lay flat enough that they don't make you look bigger than you are. They are a lighter fabric. For those of you who are ex-military, they are not the thickness of BDU's. They are closer to the thickness of khaki pants. I am very happy with this product, and I plan on buying another pair in a different color soon!