I work in management for a large manufacturing company and I am in the plant a lot, after a 2 month period where I ruined $700 worth of fine Italian dress shoes I bought these, a little polish (and they polish superbly) I wear them with suits, slacks and jeans on Friday.  Since I bought these 3 of my colleagues also bought them.  They go from the boardroom to the plant perfectly.  One thing, they tear up dress socks, get some light weight smart wool phd crew socks they are perfect!!