Just as a warning.  These boots are not black.  Even the brand new ones are faded and worn looking black.  I was very disappointed but ended up keeping them because the fit is excellent while not making up for the fact that they look like someone else wore them for years before they sold them.  When I buy something brand new I want to be the one to break it in.  I felt like I'd ended up paying 170 dollars for someone's hand me downs.