I love these pants.  Last year, I ordered a 4P and they are a bit big and the length shrunk to the point I can't wear boots with them.  This time, I ordered a 2 reg and they fit great.  They are long (I am 5'2"), but knowing they will shrink, I just turn them under or wear them with boots.
The heavy fabric is great for being in the field and brush with my Labs.