UNLESS YOU LIKE TO TRY TO DO AN HOUDINI GUESSWORK ABOUT WHAT SIZE YOU WILL TAKE IN THIS SHOE - DON'T BOTHER ORDERING IT.  I ORDERED THE SIZE I WEAR AND IT WAS AT LEAST 2 SIZES TOO BIG.  SO IT COST ME NEEDLESS SHIPPING.  I WOULDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT TO GUAGE WHAT SIZE ONE WOULD REALLY TAKE IN THIS SHOE.  SAVE YOUR MONEY.