I wore the original Renegade as a hiking shoe for over 4years, and when they finally started to get bad - letting water in, bottom too smooth to be effective to still hike in, and back of heels ripped up from long use, I ordered these thinking they would be the same great shoe.  They were too narrow in the toe box with hiking socks, and quite frankly they were ugly.  I also did not like the new lacing system they used - the original renegade had "hooks" for the last two lace ups, and were great for getting the shoe on and off.  I am bummed b/c I love the Lowa shoe, but these went back and I tried a completely different brand.