My husband really like shoes, but he is used to laceup styles and after trying two sizes he decided that if he went with a even smaller size they wouldn't fit at all. Shoes are a little loose in the heel but he believed they were a keeper. Very well made and like darker color doesnt show dirt. Seller accepted pair return due to size being too big and we just ordered smaller size. Would buy from seller again, was very quick in shipping and giving credit for return.