These shoes are exactly what I was looking for. I've owned at least 10 or 12 pairs of Fallen shoes. This being my second pair of the Patriots, I will say they are a good solid pair of shoes. I don't skate much at all anymore but my last pair I had for a year and they got holes worn in the bottoms (I walk a lot) which is why I purchased this pair. I ordered a size 11 last time, I tried them on and they fit nice and snug on my feet with a tad bit of room which was great. Expecting the same out of these shoes, I ordered a size 11. I got them and they were a little tight on my feet. Pretty much means I gotta break them in before they will be perfectly comfortable. Not too much of a big deal but it goes to show that either my feet grew or the shoe sizes vary slightly between every pair. Or both. The logo on the tongue of this pair is not black. I't is a very dark metallic silver color that actually goes really well with the shoes. The side logos are black. The soles of these are completely black as well as the bottoms with a dark grey logo on the tread. The outer material of these shoes isn't the typical suede, its suede that isn't that furry feel. I don't know how else to describe it. The inner shoe around the ankles has awesome support and cushioning. These shoes mold to your feet. I recommend these shoes because they are light, durable, and they look good. Thanks for reading.