I've been looking for the right briefs for 3 or 4 months since I found out that Haines quit making the style I had been buying for years. Then I found these and the search was over. They fit just right and didn't ride up in the back like other brands. I've been buying sports brief without a fly for years and didn't think these would be comfortable but they really are. I just hope the elastic around the legs doesn't stretch out and get loose.