The pants themselves are pretty nice. Cut well, put together nicely, and they fit as expected. The "carbon" color is actually very nice, goes well with faded metal band t-shirts, but I have one compaint: the cargo pocket. First of all, there is only one, on the right leg. Second of all, it's zippered on top, and it's TINY. I wear cargo pants to pocket carry a Kahr PM9, and it will not fit into this cargo pocket. There is hardly room in there for a wallet, which is a big letdown. Still, the pants are very nice, so I ankle-carry when I wear them and that works out fine.