I should start out by saying I paid in the neighborhood of $20 for these shirts. Any more than that would not be worth it in my opinion. They are great, inexpensive shirts. The only reasons they lose a star are for collar stays built into the collar, and you can see my undershirt through them. They are not quite as bad as some of the single ply toilet paper shirts I have had in the past (probably more like 1.5 ply).