No talk'n bad about my fav socks! H.e.l.l.o they are liners and not meant to be pulled over your head. They are used with another sock. Their great when they get wet to because they just seem to keep water away from your feet. If they get wet you just ring them out and their nice and soft and still keep much of their thermal properties ie warm feet. They dry fast in cold temps while your other socks are freezing these dry out. I've used these liners with toe socks and gotten great results.