When I opened the box I wondered what I was thinking when I ordered them.  I put them on and I liked them again.  Comfortable work shoes.  Thicker almost rubbery material for the shoes and stiff laces.  Keeping them because I got them on sale, they fit perfect and I can wear them with suits.  I like that there is enough of a sole to keep my pants from dragging on the ground without having to wear heels.  All in all, I like them but I don't love them.