THESE SHOES ARE VERY NICE.  I JUST WISH I COULD BUY THE BLACK PAIR TOO, BUT THEY ARE OUT OF STOCK OF SIZE 5'S.  THESE ARE VERY COMFY, AND THE PERFECT FIT AND HEIGHT.  THE ONLY DRAW BACK WOULD BE THE LEATHER SEEMS A BIT SOFT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS THEY WON'T LAST, SO OVER ALL, THESE ARE GREAT SHOES.