I was out of town when these gloves arrived so I did not get them until one day before the dead-line to send them back and luckily the Seller refunded my money except for the return shipping so I give them 2 stars for efficiency and courtesy.
I ordered a large as I do with all my gloves but not only was the right a little too tight the Left glove was a half inch smaller.  They felt plenty sturdy but not at all comfortable... Could have been a fluke and they refunded with no problem. Just note that if you have large hands better look elsewhere unless they start to carry and extra large.