These shoes did not fit at all.  Further, the leather was quite wrinkled in some places and smooth in others.  The look was not good.  I have ordered quite a few shoes through Amazon with fabulous results.  This pair was too narrow for my wide foot (ordered wide) and too short for me as well.  If you must have this pair, order a size or two larger.  Those with wide feet, just don't bother.  Find another pair that might actually fit.