These Lees 4P jeans are very well designed.  The stitching is very ornate and runs around the waistband and up on every belt loop.  The fabric is that hard-to-find worn out denim that takes years of wear to produce - here it's instanteously.  You should be advised that I purchased 2 pair of 4P and they fit differently.  These jeans are $5.00 more around town.  It's a great jeans.