These jeans are fantastic. There are a couple routes to dealing with shrink to fit jeans but the route that I took that seems to work well is as fallows. I don't wash them with water. Before buying a pair I went to a Levis outlet store and tried em on. I got them super tight fitting because, since you don't wash them, they never shrink. They only expand, and they only expand to contour your real fit. They break in quite nicely and fit very comfortably after a couple wears. They actually seem kind of baggy now and i've only had em for a month or so now. The way I take care of odor is by freezing them (the temperature kills the odor causing bacteria) and i do spot wash them with water, but if you get these jeans wet and they fit tightly, you have to wear them till they're dry, or they will shrink. This all makes them seem like high maintenance for a pair of jeans but it's really not. This is all actually even easier than a washing machine. You just throw em in the freezer the night before you're going to wear them if your denim isn't smelling so hot and you're set.