I used to wear these as a young man, and thought it was time for a new pair. In high school and college the only color I could find was the "sand" which is very light, and gets dirty easily. I bought "Oakwood" and they're about the perfect color, and I don't feel I need to baby them. They're not as comfortable as I remember, but I've onyl had them a week, and haven't given them much time yet. I get tons of compliments when I wear them and from the sounds of it, a lot of folks wore these at some time or another. Really glad to have a new pair. Construction seems solid and refined, no obvious flaws, and a nice liner, which I don't remember from the olden thymes.