I have a pair of the rubber Crocs clogs which are terribly comfortable. I thought these might be a little more appropriate for going out certain places. They are real scratchy feeling and didn't seem to want to break in for a softer touch. I'd have to wear socks with them and that wasn't the intention. I purchased 13M, my normal size. Maybe a 13W would have worked but the seams were the biggest problem and I think they'd continue to be an issue. These shoes won't get much use.