I normally wear an 8.5 wide.  These don't come in wide, but they were so perfect for riding my motorcycle I decided to try the 8.5 medium. They are so long they slip up and down on my feet with both tights and socks on.  So I will try the size 8 medium.  I hope those won't be too short. If so, I'll have to find something else. I love Clark's shoes. I am amassing quite a collection of them.  They are made well, are comfortable, and stylish.  And with these being waterproof, what's not to like?  Motorcycle boots with heels on them are not practical.  These are perfect, if I can get the size I need.  I recommend these if you ride or just want something comfy and stylish.