I'd amend Amazon's listing just to say that these aren't really work pants, and certainly not office pants. It seems like they work best for physical or outdoors work or casual wear. They're decent khaki pants, if made of relatively rough material. I agree with the other reviewers that the sizes are a bit odd. My 36 x 32 is too tight around the waist and too long along the legs. For the price, I guess I can't complain too much, but just be conscious of what you're buying.