I bought these shoes mainly for biking without clips.  They are well suited for this and have good traction on the pedals.  I ordered them 1/2 size larger than my last shoes and they fit perfectly!  I wear an innersole if I want them tighter or not if I want them looser, like for thicker socks.  They are just stiff enough to make good bike shoes without being too stiff for walking.  I tend to wear them all the time!