Normally I pay quite a bit on underwear from plus size women's stores like Layne Bryant or Avenue. After seeing these have a fabric waste band rather than elastic, I decided to give them a try. WOW! I adore them! They fit better than the much more expensive ones I've bought in the past, don't ride up and no panty lines through pants. I am now buying enough to replace all my old pairs immediately. They are soft and simply put, perfect! I would highly recommend them. Sizing is true, I wear a women's 22 and the 12 fit me perfect.