i wear a size 9 1/2 in sneakers and mostly 9's in shoes. i read enough reviews claiming this shoe ran true to size and they wore 9's and ordered 9's and they fit perfect, so i ordered 9's. they were too small. my friend who wears 8 or 8 1/2 tried them and and loved the fit but didn't want to pay me for them so i sent them back. if i don't find something in the stores that are the same fine leather as these then i will re-order in size 10 even if its full price