These are very strange socks.  They are comfortable enough and they wash well - they keep their shape, elasticity, and don't stretch out at least in warm water wash.  However, I agree with other purchasers that they lint up more than other black socks.  My biggest problem is that they are really too thin and too short to be crew socks and not short enough to be athletic socks.  They are also not thick enough to be winter socks but too thin to be trouser socks.  If you wear socks in summer, they're a good weight.