These are great anklet socks, but I think they are misrepresented as a liner since a liner is supposed to be no-show. This ribbing is about 1/2" and heavy-weight, definitely showing out of the top of the shoe (unlike other Gold Toe socks I own that have a 1/4" thin-weight ribbing and don't show). Great sock. Heavier on the bottom to lessen perspiration of the foot within the shoe as well as add light cushion.