I really liked the "pre-washed" version of this size/fit, but was afraid of wrecking them at work.  The simple solution was to order a pair of the "rigid" and hope they wreck more slowly. I don't find the fabric to be too harsh. They will break in soon enough. The fit is consistent with my pre-washed pair. Considering I used a coupon to get the price under $12, I am soooooooooooooo happy!