Well, I purchased these shoes while still wearing tennies and sandals.  Now, it is fall and I have worn these Clark, Bunker slip-on leather loafers a total of 4-times and the top stitching has unraveled. To boot, the side zipper on opposite shoe comes unzipped.  Cannot return and cannot wear.  I do not spend this much money on shoes often and expect more from a brand such as Clark.  What a waste and disappointment.