Actually, these shorts are pretty good, except for the Velcro pockets. They are a pain in the rump! OK, you're trying to put your wallet, for instance, in your hip pocket; you fight the Velcro flap up, then TRY to get that wallet in there, but before you can, the flap simply falls down and INSTANTLY locks down, and now you have to do it again, and again, and again, until sometimes it takes two (2) hands to get the job done, SO, you wind up tucking the flap into the pocket out of frustration, making the garment much less attractive. Just saying....USE SNAPS, LEE!!!