I have been wearing this type of Timberland casual oxford for years. The quality was great and they lasted. My favorite style was discontinued so I chose this to replace it. Within two months the leather around the collar of the shoe began to flake off. They look awful now. A quick look showed me that the shoes I enjoyed with the great quality were made in Vietnam. This new model is made in, you guessed it, China. I will be trying other brands.