These pants are absurd.  The material is very heavy and bulky, and rough, as if they are to be used in construction.  Yet no self-respecting trade craft would be caught using them.  If you buy your proper size the waist band can expand about 8 sizes out in front.  If you buy a smaller size the waist band extends out and exposes the contrasting pocket liners, making it obvious they are too small.  These don't fit no matter what.  More for clowns in a circus than for men in an office.