These pants are exactly as described. For the price, they are the best I've run into. Unfortunately, it is pretty difficult to get them to send it to you. One order went on for longer than a month. If you contact them they send you the same excuse-a mistake has occurred, they are very sorry, blah blah blah. Well, I understand mistakes and told them I still wanted them. The next order went exactly the same way. Needless the say, the third order as well. So if you want these pants, be prepared to wait....