Looking for a new pair of Harley Motorcycle riding boots, I  saw these boots and thought I had to have them.  They were smoking, just my style.  However I was not happy when they arrived and I found out how wide they were at the calf and at  the top of the boot, but other than that the boots are very nice and made well . The boots are not made to fit the average size calf, great if your calf runs a bit larger than most.  I tried them on with my jeans and they looked terrible, the boots stuck out in the leg area like a sore thumb.  So, I shipped them back, and still looking for my riding boots. Good Luck.