These pants are almost what I was looking for. I was trying to find a pair closest to the normal dockers d1 slim fit but a pair that wouldn't wrinkle or fade as much as the normal dockers d1 slim fit. These pants do just that, they never wrinkle and they never fade but they do not fit quite like the originals. They are much tighter around the butt than normal and much looser around the calves. I am 6'2 and slim. However I do run quite often so maybe my butt is too muscular from that running. When I wear them I can hardly fit my wallet in my back pocket without fear of it splitting my pants open.