the only reason i gave these a 4 and not a 5 is because my petite 5'1" frame had to fold them.  during most of the year; i wear knee socks almost always.  i saw the thigh high version and thought they might keep me warm and look sexy at the same time.  i wore these with a grey mini dress and my black ankle boots.  though i did have to fold them over since i'm not tall; they lasted all night and not once started rolling down