Okay, yea...these are junior jeans and I'm age 41. I don't care. I ordered them and they fit me perfectly--in fact just a tad loose in size 13 (not too loose, but loose enough I think the smaller size 11 will fit me on "skinny" days or when I want a curvier look)  and I usually wear a 10-12 in women's jeans. I got these in dark and they are amazingly comfortable too...the waist just low enough but not so low you feel like a muffin. They are slimming--tighter on the thigh and with a slight flair. What I also really like on these is the "wide stitch" detail and slightly washed look on the legs. I wanted a pair of Silver jeans so bad, but $70-$100 for a pair of jeans I can't justify, especially while losing weight. :) Well, these have a similar look to some Silver jeans, and they are sturdy and well made. The pockets are big and nicely placed, which for people with my shape--a somewhat wide derriere--is very important. For the price they cannot be beat!