good pants the omnitech membrane is a much better than some waxy coated pants and for the price very good. These fit well over my normal pants and sinch up good. The legs are a little baggy but thats okay. Tested in some heavy raid and didn't seem to seep through at all. Only complaint is that the pocket holes have no closures on them they realy should have some velcro or zippers as this could let a massive amount of water in if the rain is heavy or your at the right angle for them to open a bit.