These are real nice boots. Comfortable and with plenty of room for my feet and a pair of winter socks. I needed a pair of steel toe boots that are electrically rated and I have a pair similar to these that I've had for about 5 years. Irish Setter make a real comfy boot. Not crazy about the white soles but, I know the iron workers like that and I'm willing to deal with the ugly looks. They don't take long to break in and I haven't had to treat them with any water proofing. Just put them on and go to work.