I was shocked when I received these shoes that they were so flimsy that when you stood up in them, the top of them sank in and got deep furrows horizontally across the toe.  In addition, the middle of the shoes gaped out as if you had your fingers in them pulling them out sideways..  All in all, they looked like clown shoes.  They told me to return them directly to them with a note and they would refund my shipping costs but they did not.  I sent several emails and they ignored me.