I was very excited to get my boots today, but will have to send them back.  I usually wear a 6 1/2, ordered a 7 so thicker winter socks could be worn.  I probably needed an 8, because with summer socks, my toes were at the end and very uncomfortable.  I wore them about 10 minutes in the house to see if would get better, but my big toes hurt so much, I had to remove them and package them up.  They look like they would be very warm, but need a size up for regular socks and another 1/2 up for winter socks.