I used to love Levis, but now they have gone with a thinner material, fewer belt loops, and the fit seems to have changed as well. They feel cheap and thin. A belt doesn't hold them up evenly all the way around, there are 2 loops in front, 2 at the side, and only 1 in the back at the center. The effect is that you feel like your wearing a constant wedgy. Not to mention how they are charging more for these now. For a better fitting jean, at a better price, with enough belt loops, you're better off with LLBean Double L Jeans.