Lose and sloppy in most ways but tight near toes even though they are the same size as all my shoes.  It is possible that the shoes would have been wearable after getting broken in, but I was not willing to chance it for the money.  They do have a good arch and are light weight, which I like.  Out of the box I did not like the appearance, but once I put them on they looked nice, just wore them on the carpet in the house.  I returned them to Amazon with the online print out.  Very easy.  Maybe shoes are not the best thing to purchase online.  I am surprised at all the positive reviews.