just got them. I will be returning as they are too tight in the toebox.  I wear Kinvara 2s size 13 and love them. I think Size 14 would be a bit big in other areas.  I don't know why they changed things up? I will try peregrines or the new Xodus with the 4mm heel toe drop in hopes they work. Generally satisfied with saucony.  the foot is grippy, but i want them tto work well for Tough Mudder and am concerned about traction in mud the the grips are lower profile.  Any suggestions for a moderately cushioned 3-4 mm heel/toe drop trail shoe with a rock plate that is relatively light? Maybe Innov8 or Montrail rouge racer?  NB 110s are too little cushion for my comfort. I suppose these are the most minimal as far as closeness to the ground of the Kinvara TR>Peregrine>Xodus.