These are pairs two and three of these pants for my husband.  I bought him a pair of khaki one's a few months ago because he keeps staining them and I didn't want to spend a fortune. Now he's replacing all the nice hugo boss pants I get him with Dockers!  He loves how soft they are and the fit. Not too snug anywhere and no need to alter, length is perfect.  Wear really well after repeated washings and great for someone who travels.