I ordered these for my 5 year old grand-daughter. There is only one place locally to buy jazz shoes and the sizes start at 12. She is a 10 1/2 in regular shoes with a roomy fit in most cases. I bought size 12's at the local store because a lot of places say order a size or two up for jazz shoes. They were huge, so they were returned. That is why I initially ordered 10 1/2M Capezio's from Amazon. They fit (she has a narrow foot) but her toes were at the end. So they are going back for an 11M. The quality of the shoe looks fine, and they appear to be soft, flexible, and comfortable.