I have wider feet and the women's shoes don't come in wide, so I order men's shoes.  I have a woman's 9 or 10 so I ordered a man's 8 and 8W ( bought 2 pairs) I love them! They are sooo comfortable and wellmade.  They are replacing mocs that I bought from Landsend, which have gone downhill in quality during the past few years.  I am really happy with them and they are so comfortable straight out of the box. Will continue to buy in the future.  I am a CNA and nursing student and these are great for standing on your feet for hours.