This is my first pair of Levi 517's and I have to say I am very impressed. They sit on my natural waist (not low-rise like the 527's), and are fitted in the seat and thigh, and then flare out below the knee to fall on the boot. I'm 6'3" 190lbs and have a 36 waist and 34 inseam and it fit perfectly. Hard to find jeans these days that sit on the waist...I'm not a fan of the low-rise look or feel, so these jeans were a great find.