These are good cargo shorts, and I am glad I bought them.  I find them extremely comfortable to wear.  I can drive for hours in them without any discomfort.  I usually want a 12-13" inseam because I am 6'2", The length is good, even though the inseam is only about 11.5".  The outseam is about 23".  (I wish Amazon would always display inseam and outseam lengths on short sizes.)

They are a bit loose.  I have about a 37" waist so I bought a 38" pair, but it was way too big.  Amazon kindly exchanged them for a pair with a 36" waist.  I have kept them, but because they are a rather heavy denim, I still need a belt to make sure they do not slide down.  They have laundered well, but they are certainly not wrinkle free.