I chose these for my  9 year old Grandson who lives up North.  He is pretty tough on his clothes. The fit was good.  Over the course of a week he played outside in the cold,wet,snow,rain. On his knees,in the mud, wore riding his 4 wheeler,he gave them a good work out and I laundered them after each time he wore them. They washed nicely and came through the dryer nicely. The only thing I had to change was to shorten them.