The main reason I bought these pants, was to replace the twill pants my son wears to school everyday because it's getting cold. The Children's Place used to make some great navy cords that he wore during the winter months. They were thick like jeans and kept my son warmer than chinos. But they're not making them anymore and I had been looking all over for blue corduroys that didn't cost 80 bucks each. When I bought these I thought I had solved the problem and bought 2 pairs to try out. Unfortunately these pants are very thin, so thin, it's just pointless to replace his chinos with these. Izod is not exactly a crappy brand, so I was somewhat surprised. My son still wears them, I guess the fabric should be warmer than cotton, regardless of thickness, but they're still a huge disappointment.