I previoulsy tried some gold toe extended size black socks ordered here at Amazon and was happy with them. I ordered 9 pairs of these thinking they were the same. My fault for washing them all before trying one pair first. They fall down around my ankles immediatly and are very uncomfortable. Constantly pulling them up only irritates me more. I should have tried one pair and kept my reciepts, as it is I am stuck with a usless 40$ purchase.