I've never liked the feel of denim so I was happy to find these pants a few years ago. When you first get them they are very stiff, some may not mind or actually like that, but either way they'll get broken in after a few washes. I don't care for the stiffness so I like to run them through the wash at least once before wearing. These pants have proven to be very durable for work. I bought my first pair almost 4 years ago and that pair are only recently starting to show wear and tear from construction work, but still usable for work. I like the permanent crease, and you should note that the "washed" colors of these pants do not have the crease. I was unaware and although the washed version is more comfortable new (soft) I prefer the fit and look with the crease so I returned them. These pants are nice enough to wear casually also, I only wish Dickies made a non-double knee version of these pants... These pants have a 21" leg opening which is larger than Dickies regular work pants and I find them to be much more comfortable.