I got these in black and, while I loved the style, fit, and contrast stitching the fabric had a smooth shine to them that reminded me of track pants. They even made a horrible swishing noise when I walked. Also, I'm glad I ordered two different sizes because the fit was very large. I had to size down from my normal size...if you are in between sizes, definitely go down NOT up. I returned these the same day they arrived in the mail. Sorry, Dickies, but I am going back to my beloved Koi Lindsey scrubs.