I read a lot of sock reviews before purchasing these. Based on the other reviews I thought I was surely purchasing the best sock and getting the best value. These socks were so paper thin when I got them I was afraid that if I was too carefree in putting them on my toe might burst through them. So, from day one I had to be very careful not to damage them. Also, they IMMEDIATELY began falling down and slouching. Before I ever wore them or even washed them they performed as if I'd had them for 20+ years, and had seen many rough days and wash cycles.