I had to return the shoe. It was a nice slooking shoe for the price but my heel popped out of the back with each step & I didn't even have hosiery on. Good arch suport. Good feel. Would only have worked if it had a strap tp hold on or  a narrrow cut in the heel area. I am not the type to glue things into my shoe to tighten. I walk all day & none of those glue in items ever truly stay where the should. Sent shoe back