I ordered these for my grandmother since she has very wide feet so I ordered a 6E (or 6WW). Well when we received them she tried them on and they were too long. Out of curiosity I tried them on and they fit me (length, the width was too big on me because I wear medium) and I usually wear a size 8. Complete waste of time and unfortunately Amazon did not have a replacement pair so I'm right back where I started.