The fabric of these is so light weight you could probably read the label in my underwear through them.  In contrast, the zipper is so stiff, it makes the pant leg flare out like a hoop skirt.  To top it off, they are not only too short but they run small in the waist.  I want my hiking pants to look hip and be both comfortable and functional.  I felt like a total doofus in these and immediately sent them back.