HOLY COW...I had a gift card I needed to use at an outdoor store recently and saw these for the first time.  $30 for a pair of underwear???? Were they serious???  I then pulled my phone out and looked these up, read about Exofficio, and figured what the heck.  Up to that point I was very dissatisfied with my name brand 'regular' underwear as it just didn't fit right and then within hours got out of shape.  I threw them all away after I bought my first pair of these, and so bought this and another color to round out my stash.  They hold their shape, the mesh feels neat and cool, and guys, if you're like me, you'll love this: the front is sewn like a bit of a pocket that keeps your manhood front and center and never lets it dangle out left or right.  The comfort level is far beyond anything I could have ever dreamed...and, of course, on Amazon, I got a much better price.  I'm a 44 waist pants and the XXL fits like an incredible glove.