So just got my new Osiris PXL and I may be a customer for life. I almost bought a pair of these in the late 90s or maybe it was like the turn of the millennium idk I cant remember... but I bought a pair of C1RCAs instead and they where terrible lasted a month and no support fell right apart so I bought Vans... that being said I have been wearing vans for most of my life (Im 31) and they were great...now that being said getting older a back surgery and years later ( not to mention every teenager in the United States wearing them) and my skating days long behind me i was in search of something more supportive than Vans and I found these!!!! Buy these shoes!!!they fit like vans but are way more comfortable more supportive seem very solid built and are badass! Looking at some of the others shoes they make I it makes me want to buy them all!(instert sinster mad scientist laugh here) I cant speak for the sizing in other brands but if you own vans order the same size if you skate idk how they will hold up but they are comfortable and light... so long Vans