These are nice shorts, nice fabric weight, but they were too short of an inseam for me.  I wanted shorts that hang past my knees...like the judo length shorts they used to sell.  These hit me at my knee, but pulled up when sitting.  Also, like most KS pants and shorts, the "tall" sizes are too high waisted for me.

Quality-wise, these were very nice.  Someone could easily wear these out in public and not look like you were wearing sleep shorts.