When I bought these 3 years ago I loved them.  I just bought the brown and the horizon colors.  The new pants are very thin fabric that does not feel like denim at all.  I have washed them both and when I first put them on they fit fine, but as the day goes on they get larger!  I've reordered a size down and hope it will be a better fit.  If not for the thin fabric they would have received 4 stars.