I bought these because I needed black socks which wouldn't keep falling down and bunching up in my shoes. Unfortunately, straight out of the package these socks do exactly that. Them seem fine when I first put them on but an hour later I keep having to pull them back up. Even when  folded over, they refuse to stay on. This is expected disappointing because I sized down from what I'd normally buy for my size 10 wide feet in the hope they'd be tighter.