Each time I order the same and style size Levis I get something different. Their consistency from the factories is terrible. The last pair I got of these was super stiff canvas that had no flex. Flexed nowhere. I could hold them up stiff like cardboard. Then I got a pair that was almost like chinos. I love the color and style, but really wish I could keep ordering them and get the same product each time. It's driving me to another brand, or to buy locally and try on.