I have owned many 874 pants in the past. Great quality pants, but I always have to buy 2 sizes larger in the waist. The inseam size is correct, but the waist is always on the small size. For reference, I usually wear a 40 in other dress pants, and a 38-40 in Levi's 541 jeans/khakis, but I have to buy a size 44 in the 874 pants. 5 star pants minus 1 star for the weird waist sizing.