I ordered these in a size 8 received them in a brown box (I have a few pairs of frye boots and the 8 fits) well these boots were swimming on me I looked inside the boot and size was marked 8/ so i returned them for a 7.5 when they arrived it came in the black frye box and fit very snug so I looked inside the boot and it was marked 7/ so i'm assuming the first pair was an 8.5 The first time i tried the snug pair on i thought maybe they might stretch and wore them a little bit around the house. Then i tried them on with a thin sock and they fit pretty good a little slipping in the heel and a little snug in the foot bed but not uncomfortable. I have a 14 inch calf and found these easy to put on and take off. The leather is of good quality just over all a very nice boot. I gave it 4 stars because of the sizing issues with the first pair i received.