These boots looked better than they wore. Too much bling and not enough consideration in design. I know my size and one boot was way too difficult to get my foot into. My pants are boot cut .These boots,bydesign,are too short for riding on any motorcycle,too low for shin cover. The back of the boot wore into the back of my leg causing irritation and bleeding. All in just a day's ride. Seems the foot enclosure worked independent from the upper design of the boot. These are 8",or so,from the arc of the foot. A 10" or 12" measurement form the arc would keep the back of the boot from wearing on the skin and stay under the pant legs while riding. Lemons happen,but there is no lemonade to be salvaged from this design. Buy a taller/higher boot and have happy feet all day long......JUST SAYIN'