My husband has worn these shoes for decades.  He was disappointed, to say the least, when he found that the manufacturer had changed, and so had the shoe fit/size, construction, and some aspects of the style.  He had already removed the insoles and put orthopedic insoles in (as he has again, been doing for several years), having NO reason that the fit would have changed from the last several shoes of this exact size and style he has ordered and worn.  We therefore could not return them, and donated them to a local charity. We will not be ordering them again.