Holy cow these are small. I have owned well over 25 different carhartt items from jackets to short sleeves to long sleeves. I saw this new material and thought I'd try it. One came in and was ridiculously small. So I thought it was a bad cut. I ordered 2 other colors of various styles with this new material . All 3 are small. Like "ooops we really messed up" small. I vary between 2xt and 3xt . I got a 3xt so it would hang loose and it might fit someone who wears an xlt.