I got these form a different website, but returned them immediately. I wanted an over the knee boot that looked like this, but they are not the same in person as they look in the picture! the foot is too long and looks like you are wearing a long black banana on your foot...the long toe juts out in front and sticks up at the end...I was afraid I would trip. they look more like vinyl than leather, not very good traction on the soles, and they do not go up very far over the knee, more like to the middle of the knee, and so look awkward. All that was needed was to shorten the way too long and weird narrow banana shaped foot and add some inches to the top and some rubber to the soles. other wise they were not too wide in the calf and would have been fine.