These are great pants and I like them a lot they are very comfortable even on the desert heat! So why only four stars? As much as I like them I find them not as functional or comfortable as the Tac-light pants!

I will say they don't stand out as much in the tactical aspect so if your looking for something low key these will be great! Yet don't feel that the extra money is worth it over the Tac-light pants unless your looking for a low key Tactical pants.

They have held up well in the heat have had them on in 116+ degrees weather and they where not to hot! They have held up to all the things in the desert so far thorns rocks and more.