The socks themselves are fine. I ordered some previous to this and they worked and were what I expected so I decided to order more. This time, I received a version of the sock that has color on the top hem, which is the part of the sock that shows, even though they are "no show" socks. The reason I ordered them is because they are black. Since these have a colored hem, they do not appear to be black socks. Kind of defeats the purpose. I'm returning them.