Just received my new 505's and immediately arranged to return them because they are not the same weight or fit as my last pair (probably 5 or 6 years old). It seems like they are made of lighter denim and have some sort of stretch material added. They are also lower rise than my old pair (and, yes, I actually compared them). Definitely not the same quality, so if you are 'old school' like me and looking for the old 505 Regular Fit Levi's.....these ain't them. I still gave them 2 stars because they are probably decent jeans - just not what I wanted.