This is the best quality tie of this style I have found on Amazon. I wish that I could fine  a similar square end tie of the same size( most modern square  end ties seem to be made for clown costumes .This tie is approximately 1.75" on the square end , most modern square end ties measure 2.5 to2.75 " ( I already have a 60's style bow tie that a thinner parallel style "bow" tie).