These shoes fit well and are comfortable.  The leather is thick and resists creasing.  My biggest complaint is that they are certainly not water proof.  I work in a Butcher shop and get water on my feet from washing floors or dishes.  I am never standing in puddles only getting over spray from a hose or sink water running down my apron onto the tops of the shoes.  It really stinks to find out that my insoles are getting soaked around the ball of my foot on each (not just one) shoe.  Too late to return now after wearing to work.  I haves to remove the insole after each use and put powder inside to keep the smell and water in check.  I visually inspected the shoes and have found no holes or weak seams.  It is a mystery how water gets in.  It almost seems to slowly be absorbed via the leather.  The top of my socks and all around the ankle is dry so water isn't getting in via the tongue or laces.  Hope this helps.