I got these to replace a pair of Staheekum mocs that I had worn for years, and I think I was expecting a new pair of my old mocs. They aren't the same. I would prefer the back to be a bit higher. It is difficult to slide your feet into them without squishing down the back, which makes the back want to stay flat. I think the problem could be that they seem to be a bit smaller than the  usual size 8, but a larger size would definitely be too big. I've never had to use a shoe horn with this type of slipper, but that's what I do with these. I like the  indoor/outdoor sole, and for that reason, I kept them as deck shoes.