Thank you Amazon for accepting a return of Meme in exchange for these Halle pants from Prana. Fit on outdoor apparel is so weird these days but these fit decent. Room in the legs without being too big. Length is perfect. If I had one quibble it would be the mid rise. Wish it were just a bit taller rise. Glad these have belt loops. Will probably purchase others since manufacturers are always tinkering with fit on outdoor active wear it seems.