I own 2 other pairs of Minnetonka boots size 9 (I'm usually an 8 1/2 but fit a 9) I received the moccasins today and upon unwrapping the paper wrapping, I realized these were all wrong. They're pretty wide along the arch, the fur lining was shedding, had exposed threading, separated seam, unmatched bows, just not what I was expecting. Despite all the reviews, I bought them as a full faithed fan for years already. Definitely sad :( ... and returning...