They are 1st and foremost baggy. Hip hop baggy.  It is heavier than regular jeans, walked 2 miles in them with the knee pads in and they feel good. Rode my ZX6R with them on and the knee pads leave the whole side of the knee exposed because the pads sort of tilt in towards the inner legs   I would rather they tilt outwards to protect the side of my knee cap. The bagginess works well with my zx6r riding position as it allows for the pants leg to stay on the boots. I would have to say these would be great if they were not so baggy. 1 positive thing is, as a urban rider in NYC these pants allow me to wear less desirable but better protection under such as knee/shin guards. The size is true waist wise. I ordered 32 and they fit snug. Back of the pants have a attached zipper flat to connect to riding jackets with same attachment.  Not many choices out there but for a 1st buy I am satisfied . After a two rides on my motorcycle I am not that happy with them.