I'm so disappointed in these shoes and frustrated with New Balance. Their sizes are all over the place. I've been wearing an 8.5D in another NB cross trainer and assumed that I could get the same size in another model. These fit a whole size larger than my other NB cross trainers. They also feel very heavy and lack support for lateral movements. No matter how hard I tie them, I feel like they come loose mid workout. It's disappointing because I tried to make them work so I've worn them enough that I can't return them, but they hurt my feet and are too clunky for the workouts I do. Very disappointed.