For some reason for my waist size the inseam was about 5 inches too big.  And I kinda knew this, but the pockets on the cargo pants style feel like fish weights.  I am returning them for those reasons.  If those issues don't bother you looks like a solid short for the price.  I am giving 4 stars meaning I would have like them except for those 2 reasons, and I realize the review is personal to me.