Good quality product (except for the belt). I like shorts to extend below my knees, not just over the knee, but below. The picture kind of worried me as I like them just a bit longer then that. Happily, they do fall below my knees by about 2 inches, so when I sit down, my knees are still covered. Perfect for me. I'm 5'10. The belt that came with the shorts is useless...because of the loop over and pull buckle. When I would loop it through the buckle and try to pull it tight, the other part of the buckle would turn and pass through the loop, undoing the belt!  I threw it away.