So confused: these were too big yet another pair of the same style Keen (Newport H2) in the SAME size fit just perfectly. I wear an 8. Bought these in an 8.5 and another pair in an 8.5 yet these were too big in the toe box and the other 8.5 were not. Not sure what to recommend. I returned them and kept the better fitting 8.5 Keen Newport H2s.