i do not like these socks at all. they fall down inside my boots constantly. i ordered the same sock like 7 or 8 months ago that were perfect. all i did was go back and find that order and click buy again. these have a little different top to but  i thought no big deal. They sure do not perform as well as the first ones. I will never buy them again. why do companies make a great product then change them and make them crappy