These are more like tights and they have no front pockets which is annoying about 20 times a day.  This was my first time buying a size 18 in anything I wear a 16 I went big because I wanted a loose comfy/baggy fit.  I am keeping them for going out but I still need something comfortable to garden in. I'd say these run really small.  I do like them even if I did complain a bit ;) but pockets are a big deal.