Only issue is that I ordered 3 pair of the same pant and they were all different lengths. The flax color were a good 2" shorter than the navy and imperial. Would describe them as a loose fit 8. I wear a 6L or 8L depending on manufacturer and these are a generous 8. They're wash & wear but do wrinkle, so get them out of the dryer and hang fast to minimize wrinkles. Note the jean-like material is dressier than the usual but it too wrinkles and creases!