I'm returning these boots. I've been watching them for 8 months trying to get a great price on them. Let's face it, they are cute boots. Prime day sale brought them down to just above two hundred. Not worth the money. The sherling starts at the top of the shaft and goes all the way down onto the foot bed. Another reviewing mentioned wearing them barefoot because that's the only way they go on. Even the thinnest trouser sock is grabbed by the sherling and drags. In time the sherling will flatten but I don't want to wear these barefoot until that happens.  Also the leather is thiner than any other Frye shoe/boot I've have. (3 pairs total - not counting these) Not sure about the durability.  Finally, the leather is really polished. It seems like too much shine for a "rugged casual boot." The pair I received also had a small stitching defect. Probably not the norm but the negatives keep adding up so I've returned them.