These pants are okay but, much thinner than expected. These are good for a cool summer night . Definitely, not for NY winters. I like the draw string waist and pockets. After washing them they did shrink a bit especially, in the length. Not sure why all the positive reviews.  I guess I expected a better quality pant although the price reflects these. My son is a medium and that is what I got him. He is only 5'2" and the length is now good.