It's unfortunate Amazon doesn't allow people to add an answer to their own question for future shoppers once a product has been purchased and they know the answer. I had asked if they shrink after the first wash. The community answered that they would not. ... That is incorrect. They definitely shrink in the length  1-2 inches. ... I had to return the first pair I bought due to them being too short after the first wash (they fit perfectly prior to washing them). ... The seller accepted them back in exchange for a longer pair minus a few dollars for shipping. ... I like the pants. They have well placed, spacious pockets, the zipper and button feel like good quality that will last and the hook & loop closures that are used actually stick and feel like the type that will last (unlike Blaklader products that will not after a wash or two), and they are comfortable. I can't speak towards the durability because I've only have them for a couple of weeks.