I wanted to love these jeans. I love where they hit in the waist and how they felt through the hip. The fabric had too much stretch though and it felt like they would be a saggy mess by the end of the day. The material also felt thin and cheap and for the price point, they need to feel like high quality than they did. I also didn't like that the "denim" wasn't really denim and had black backing. All in all, I returned them.