Dickies are always 5 stars. If you get too soft Flex ones they're pretty much comfortable right out of the package. If you get the regular ones you definitely want to wash them once or twice just to kind of soften him up. But these are pretty decent right out of the package but always I wash them a couple times to really soften the material up. I wearing for work I live in Utah it's hot in the Summers. I do windshield repair and they are go to shorts to wear. The rugged and durable. I put my company logo and name on them on the left leg. They look great. And they look like work clothes but I can also wear them out to dinner or go on a hike and still be comfortable and also look sharp at the same time.