These shoes are TINY. I have worn an 8.5 for my whole adult life and I do not have wide feet. The 8.5 size I ordered was too small both in length and width. I've already refunded the money I paid and don't want to purchase these again, but I would recommend ordering up at least one full size or size and a half for these to fit you. It's a shame because they are cute looking shoes, but the sizing is completely off.