Had a pair of Arctix ski pants but wanted more pockets so I ordered the cargo style to get two more pockets.  They tend to run a little small; I wear 36 waist jeans and bought a large in these and they are perfect.  I have skied in my original pair of Arctix pants for 8 days so far and used them twice when operating my snow blower and they are holding up great. I really don't know how they can sell them for this price as I think they are great ski pants.  Haven't worn them while skiing in the rain, but skied all day while it was snowing they kept me dry and warm.  Even sitting on a ski lift with snow on the seat, my butt didn't get wet. I see no reason to pay more for ski pants when you can buy the Arctix brand.