I like the feel of the shorts as tough shorts goes, but they hang more like knickers. In fact that was a comment I received while wearing them. I was golfing so I figured I was fine, but still. They stop somewhere between ankle and knee. But otherwise comfortable and I don't figure Ill be wearing them out. The khaki color was a little too khaki tan, more on the bright tan than dark tan for me. Im keeping the olive and black pairs, returning the tan.