My wife's 5th pair of these 411s. Lots of foot issues, including orthotics. These work the best of all - Were initially recommended by both her Podiatrist as well as the Orthotic maker. Never a disappointment. Firm and supportive yet soft and comfortably form-fitting.
Can't go wrong with these.

She keeps two pair at a timer - one pair for outdoors and the other for around the house - barefeet aren't so good for her any longer.