In the description picture the socks appear to be fitted to the foot, but in fact they are tube socks so the socks are baggy around the ankle. I can't return them because when I tried on a pair of the socks they conformed to my foot width and were permanently stretched-out at the heel. The sellers should state clearly in the description that these are tube socks, and/or have a realistic picture that show how they bag at the front of the ankle. They are much thinner than I expected and I wonder just how much wear I'll get from these socks. Also the description and the paper band around each pair of socks says they are knee socks. I'm short and they just barely reach my knees. I bought these socks to wear under skirts that hang a couple inches past my knees. These socks will be a problem, especially since the darker colored band is so wide it will be exposed.