Love these pants. Worked outside all winter in the Pacific Northwest where it was really windy. I was warm because they broke the wind very good. Got smart this winter and bought a size bigger in the waist so I could tuck in many layers and be comfy all winter. And I could throw them in the dryer without shrinking. Only thing that would have made them better would be to have the lining match colorwise with the pants. I needed the black for work and the lighter colored lining lint shows up on the outside of the pants.