I was looking for an all black pair of jeggings to replace a pair that ripped. Unfortunately it wasn't these. They look all black, but once put on and they stretch they loose some of their blackness. Whatever is in the thread shows as white or silver when stretched. That and they run about a half size big. The ones I ordered have a couple to many wrinkles for my liking. My opinion is order your normal size of you want them fit loose or I suppose just right. Order a size smaller of you want them sexy and tight. I hope that makes sense?