Just came today. I was anxious to try them on, as I can rarely find pants that I like. Guess what? They are perfect and I am in love! I have found the perfect pant! They look like a cross between a classy pair of black jeans and dressy slacks. Can dress up or down. Thick enough to cover bumps, but not too thick as to be heavy or stiff. Length is perfect for my height. From this point on, the quality of all other pants I choose will be measured against these!