3rd Times the Charm .... bought my normal size in relaxed fit (the same I've been wearing for over 15 years) and the waist was way too small.  Returned those and tried the next size larger, and they felt no different than the smaller pair.  Returned those and got the Loose Fit one size larger and these are actually a little large, but I can did with a bit loose in the waist better than too tight in the waist.... Don't know what the deal is with Dickies Jeans ... may have to go back to brick and mortar so I can try before I buy.