I spent a long time comparing this and the Patagonia better sweater. I decided to try this, but wish I didn't. It is thin, the quality is lacking, and I ended up not wearing it. I tried to return it but it was too late. I went and got the Patagonia I wanted and I wear it all the time. It is thicker, more durable, and all around a better investement. Don't waste your money on this.