Soo they look nice and fit ehh okay. I thought the waist band would be more elastic but I,had to tighten it a lot with the string. They appear baggy at the hips, but when I climb up steps with them they get really really tight at the thighs. They are not stretch whatsoever. I bought these for hiking in utah but am going to return. I can see them tearing if I take a high step up. Overall they are just not comfortable . I am 5'4 110 pounds