These are definitely a great value. For $70, to get decently made pants with cargo pockets, kevlar lining and hip and knee armor, you can't go wrong. The cut and workmanship isn't the highest quality, but it's good. Because of the lousy weather, I haven't had a chance to test ride them, but around the house, they seem good. For perfection, you'd have to spend 2 to 3 times the price.