Ordered a 14M and could have gone with a 16M, but these are weird cut and not as relaxed fit as I thought they would be so a bigger size would have made them too big in the legs. I have a short torso and waist on these is really low rise, which I didn't like because they cause a belly bulge and I have some belly. I do like the color and feel of them, so hopefully losing some belly may help. I think I should have went with another brand for boyfriend jeans.