Very disappointed with these pants. They are mens pants. I don't know why Carhartt doesnt make womans pants, if they did, they could make millions! The pants are very high waisted, length for a size 4  inseam must  be 34 . Again very disappointed. I would return them but they don't have any more of the Carhartt brown, Safety Girl doesnt even have Carhartt brown! Carhartt needs to pay attention to how many women do logging, construction work. The money is out there, but the big companies need to pay attention. Like I said I won't return them, Ill have them altered, just because I cant get the color I want.