Wore these once and had my reservations from the start, but Levis are great.....normally! These are not the Levis I or you were used to. The quality is subpar, have found better brands at my local JcPenny with double stitch and a feel of toughness. These, knowing the material and being a textile person, found them to be weak to the touch, and noticed after 4 hours of wearing them there was a slight tear down the pocket side I keep my wallet! So they became a one and done. Sadly Levis has lost all support from me.