Despite ordering the next shoe size up as other customers mentioned, these shoes were still too small, so I sent them back and Amazon as usually was very helpful and helped me scedule a free pick-up of the shoes by UPS and provided me with a full refund including tax and shipping. I've heard of needing to order the next shoe size up, but needing to order the next 2 shoe sizes up is unreasonable, and I have doubts even then that the shoes would fit right. I liked the look of these shoes, shoes need to fit right though, not just look good.