I just ordered and received these New balance 608v4 shoes. I am impressed by the quality and after wearing for the first day, they are comfortable with good support. If they hold up over time, I'll likely stay with New balance. Other more expensive "Name Brand" training shoes that I have worn lately have had the sole separate from the shoe usually in the front area. So time will tell if these do the same. Meanwhile, why are todays shoes all come with laces that are way too long? Not sure why but very difficult to keep from coming loose.