I've tried several different brands and types of socks before these and these are WONDERFUL!! First off, I'm a woman and yes, I wear men's work socks. Why? Because women's socks are NOT meant for women who actually work. I'm in steel toed boots 9 hours a day in a hot factory on my feet the whole time so I need socks that are durable and that stay up without choking my insanely large 18" calves. These are those socks! They go up to just under me knee, don't cut off circulation and don't fall apart after a couple washes. Really glad I tried these socks!