These are size 8 Brooks--once running shoes, now working shoes. I bought 36" to replace my frayed shoelaces that would no longer lace through the holes. I needed inexpensive shoelaces, but I'm shocked at how nice these were for the price! I don't have to double-knot them to keep them tied. They hold a tight knot well. They don't hang to the floor after being tied. Kinda stiff. Perfect for what I need!