I love these pants for work. I train new sales representatives for a construction company. These have enough stretch that bending over and demo'ing power tools all day is easily done without worry of my backend showing. They do not wash up the greatest but I am not concerned about that. For what I use them for, they are perfect. If you are looking for a pant that looks nice and you have a bigger butt, these pants are perfect. I am 5'4 125 but I have a 26 waist and a 34 hip! These are the perfect pant! (I order a size 4R)