My first experience with these pants was with a size 34. I've purchased other Helikon Tex pants before in size 34 and they fit well. These pants were far too large in size 34. So I sent my order back and, after paying shipping fees which I'm disappointed by since these are so expensive in the first place, I reordered in size 32. These fit well even after washing. I'm not sure why there's so much of a difference in sizing between the different products but that's definitely an inconvenience for the buyer. On top of that I had to pay shipping fees to have it returned, but I digress. Back to the pants, they're incredibly high quality. I wish they weren't so baggy but that doesn't affect the overall workmanship. The pockets are deep and the lining is much more durable than average jeans. The material is hydrophobic and somewhat breathable. All around great pants. I'm just disappointed by the buying experience.