I'm sorry, but these socks were too small.  I ordered my shoe size of 9-11.  I looked forward to receiving these socks because it seemed such a bargain.  When they came, I thought they looked great.  However, when I put them on my feet, they were soooo tight, they were cutting off my circulation.  I had to give them away to my son to give to his 8 year old stepsister.