Some issues with this, from the pic the white material looks white but when I got it, it's a cheap white material with little see through holes, not what I was expecting also the width of this tie at the bottom is all wrong. The ties wide at the bottom suppose to be at least 3 inches wide. It's almost like the whole tie is the same width. I have a white shirt and the collar of the white shirt is pure white and the material is thick, this tie the background white is not like that at all.