The quality of these briefs keeps getting worse.  Their design with the double layer of fabric in the back is unique.  However, the first quality issue I had was when they changed the elastic band around the waist.  The newer ones don't hold their shape well at all.  But since I liked the design so much I figured I'd put up with it and continued to buy them.  However, with this batch the elastic around the legs stretched out after 2 washings.  Now they don't keep things where they should be if you know what I mean.  Finally decided I needed to give up and switch to a different brand.  Too bad.  I would have continued to buy them for double the cost if they had just maintained the same quality of the ones they made about about 10 years ago.