These socks are terrible.  The fabric is very thin.  There isn't enough elastic in the cuff to hold them up, so after putting on shoes and walking only a short distance they slide down and bunch up inside your shoe.  I posted a picture so you can see what I mean.  I bought Hanes crew socks a coupe of years ago that were fine, so I don't know if they cheapened up the product or what - but these are unusable.  They are going into the trash.