I choose these because most trouser jeans have more room in the thigh area. I ordered size 20 fit well in butt and crotch but thighs we're tight and showed ripples because material thin and clingy strewach type. I am 5'7" and usually wear avarage length. These are long on me will have to hem 1-2 inches. Great dark color just not sure of stretchy material makes them clingy and have to keep pulling up. Also don't like tightness on my thighs. Of you don't have big thighs may work for you. Still better then jeans.