I'm glad I ordered down, from reading other reviews, I'm normally an 8.5-9 and I got an 8. They fit great. The color is different than expected, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised and really like it! The only reason they get 4 instead of 5 stars is because on my left foot there's some odd mishappen thing on the sole of the foot up by my toes that is just slightly awkward and irritating, the other foot isn't like that at all.