Great basic business dress shirt. The 18-18" shirt is nicely roomy, but the collar is a bit too big, but I can make it work. The 17-17.5" collar is snug and the fit tighter. So, I decided to go with the 18-18.5" to be comfortable, I would say the collar style is somewhere between a classic point collar and a spread collar. It looks great with a tie. Comfortable fabric. Overall a good shirt for work.