Took a chance on drop shipper  hang zhou chun xue fashion and ended up deciding to return after one quick fitting.  The lack of crotch space on these is alarmingly small.  The cut is several inches lower than the picture for me they came down to my lower calf.  Having bought some of these strictly Chinese shorts recently I found this manufacturer to have too many cheap fabric frilly things dangling off of it that would not survive a couple of washes.  This pair got me thinking how brands like Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie Bauer, etc. must do a high degree of quality control and that what we are starting to see on Amazon are the ones our familar brands rejected.  They in turn appear on Amazon from drop ship companies that don't bear the same name unless you research.