The older style Carhartt thermal zipper hoodies use to fit me perfect true to size and like a sweat shirt, not an over sized jacket.  I'm 6'1" 220# with an athletic build and bought their thermal hoodie in an XL that fit perfect AND the elastic at the bottom was actually doing it's job and had a snug fit around my waste.  The new "Rain Defender" thermal does not fit right.  It's an XL just like the old one, it fits my shoulders and arms fine BUT the bottom around the waste is made for an obese person.  I measured it compared to the old one and it's 7" bigger around the waste!!!  How does that happen???  Who thought this was a good idea???  It looks ridiculous for a sweatshirt to fit like this.  I like Carhartt products usually in general but this one took a huge nose dive. If you like a sweatshirt to fit like a sweatshirt and not an over sized dress don't buy this.  I'll post photos later.