These were very good quality - thick and warm.  But they did not have the look of leggings that I wanted.  With the cuffs and logo they look more like athletic wear or underwear.  They sort of scrunch up along the seams and don't fit smoothly. I wanted something that would be warm to wear under pants but would also look good as leggings in a more dressy situation.  The Zhili heavyweight thermal leggings in merino wool, while just a bit thinner, have more of the look I want.