I'm giving these five stars because these pants are great. I'm not sure why it's encouraged to order up. Don't do it! I ordered the sizes up because I was afraid of the reviews I read and now I wish I just ordered my size. I can still use these because they are super stretchy and my job requires that I squat and bend etc. I ordered black. Some people say the colors each fit different.... I don't know about that since this is my first pair. Will order another pair closer to my size.