husband really likes these for work in spite of previously telling me he would never wear them because he was done with jeans & didn't like 'stretch' material. He is often 'close minded' & couldn't get past thinking these would be the usual jeans material in spite of telling him these are cotton twill. So if you know anyone like that.... - he has a hard time finding the 33" waist with 34 length - more dark colors could result in increased sales (?)