Just got these shorts. They fit right. Length is just barely above my knee (Im 57, 36 in waist, ordered a Large) and the waist is the right width. Material is thin and soft.. just what I wanted for lounge shorts heading into summer. No fly, which I wanted but is hard to find. Its personal preference, as I don't sleep in shorts and never use a fly anyway..so why risk unwanted peekaboos if I go out to the mailbox or wear these around my girlfriends kids. Only gripe so far is that the elastic waistband isn't covered on the inside. Its not the softest band Ive ever seen but isn't the worst either....Ill have to see how it feels after a washing.