Propper M 65 field jacket is  the best and they made these for the Military for many many years!! I can say the only thing i wish they had done was to use the YKK brass zippers but they used the YKK plastic zippers but it works fine and you can always pick up a old M 65 field jacket with brass zippers and change them. I had a tee shirt on and this jacket with the liner in 6 degree weather and i never got cold!! It is a great price and if you go to propper web site you can get a coupon  and save some money!!