I purchased two different variations of the back pair of these shorts. They're super comfy and rival Dickie shorts. I don't like my shorts being above the knee cap, and it's hard to find ones that fit the way I like them. I saw these and read the reviews and knew these were perfect. THEY ARE LOOSE FIT, so they feel very relaxed, if you want them to fit better on the waist order a size down. I hope they get the grey ones back in stock because I need a pair of those in my life.