Im a tall and thin with  athletic build - not muscle bound - just fit.  I absolutely love these pants. Im a bit of a prepper and  I am constantly looking for dressy tactical type pants that I can wear to work - business casual.  Cargo pants are not appropriate.  Pockets need to be discrete - fit needs to be slim but work with boots  Needs to look good with a dress shirt and a pullover dress sweater or sport coat.  These work great for all of these and they are so light and comfortable.  Tons of very discrete pockets and inner pockets within those.  Stretchy waist so you can go a bit smaller than normal if you have a small back side.  I have no arse so its good to go a bit smaller in the waste and get a tighter fit in the seat.  I hate baggy pants.  These look just awesome and you can tell the quality is there.  I don't mind spending 90 bucks on a pair of pants that I can wear to work and don't have to dry clean.  I usually pay 100 or more for dress wool pants and I like these better.