Have been looking for a pair of decent hunting boots, found the Irish setter 808s in Amazon Warehouse at 50% off list. Great purchase with a bit of surface scuffing on an otherwise new with tags pair of boots. Scuffing in this boot is easy for some reason, did a hike of 10 miles on paved trails and managed to get some surface scuffs on the toe and sides of the boots, wiped them down with the Red Wing mink oil with no visible signs of wear. Foot bed is very comfortable with no hot spots right out of the box. Overall nice boots for what I paid, without the discounted price I would definitely look for a made in USA boot vs the China made Irish Setter boot.