These are the most comfortable riding pants I have ever tried, and will certainly keep you cool in the summer, but they are VERY slippery. The sticky carrots do absolutely nothing for grip compared to full seat suede breeches. I bought them specifically for the full seat grip as I have medical issues that cause dizziness while riding and I need all the extra seat security I can get. I will say that the seller issued an immediate refund, which is great, but has not yet sent me a return label or answered my message through amazon. I'm thinking maybe they won't accept them back as I have tried them on and used them in my saddle?