Ordered by my wife: "I normally wear a size 7.5/8, and have flat feet. Based on the reviews, I sized up. Despite the fact that I have virtually no arch, my feet are still very narrow. I found that while the toe box fit, the rest of the shoe was loose. The shoe felt "long" on my foot as well. I do think they felt comfortable and more attractive than the Ashby loafer, which had the same issue with being too loose and long when worn."