These boots just didn't fit right unfortunately. They seem like good quality and they are warm, but no matter how I messed with the laces, they just weren't comfortable. Too tight around the ball of my foot, but my heel and ankle were flopping around. Plus around my calf was a little tight, even with the laces loose. Which is honestly a first for me. I kind of have chicken legs.  so, they were nice boots and could be right for someone else, but all wrong for my feet and body. 