These jeans are bigger than Levis signature Gold label Modern Skinny Curvy fit and are cut more like a man's pair of jeans,  up-and-down, and the Levis I grew up with, before skinny jeans existed. The Rachel jean is a very soft fabric. It is thin material but good quality. I am 5'9" and 150 pounds. Size 10L is too big. I washed and dried the jeans on high and there was 0 shrinkage. Skinny jeans don't look good baggy, so take this into account when figuring out the size ; also, it seems the lighter and more stonewashed the jeans, the softer and more relaxed the denim, and this makes them feel looser, and more comfortable. Some people like 'stiffer,' more rigid jeans. I don't.