I usually wear Mocsocs, which reach halfway up the arch of my foot, these are a couple of inches or so shorter. I was hoping they were a bit heavier, more like cotton crew socks, but if anything they are even lighter than Mocsocs, and the toes are cut and stitched straight across, not finished like a regular socks would be. I'll never stray again. (Oh, and they took 3 times longer to deliver).