I am 59 and weigh 175. I normally wear an 11/12 Tall pant, but was concerned with shrinkage, so I ordered a size 14 Tall. When they came in, they were HUGE, but I opted to not return them and hoped theyd shrink in the wash. Voila! Wish granted! They shrank enough that the hips are perfect - not too tight and not too loose. The waist is still about 5-6 too big, but there are enough belt loops that once I put my belt on the gap was closed and the bunching is minimal and barely noticeable. The waist is not contoured like a womans body; it is straight and thats probably why the hips fit and the waist is too big. If you are not curvy, they may fit you better. I have bigger hips and a smaller waist, so theres quite a bit of discrepancy. I did not notice any shrinkage in length. I also did not need to iron the pants and the material is very sturdy yet, flexible. If you are not at least 59 I would not recommend the Tall length. I like my pants slightly longer because I wear them with work/tactical boots, so the length is perfect. If I was wearing them with dress shoes they would be too long. I will be purchasing more of these.