These are not the quality I expect from Bostonians. I ordered these for my husband and was surprised by how light the package was. When I opened it  I realized the lightness comes from the fact that the soles are made from the same materials as Crocs. The "stitching" around the sole is just imprinted into the Croc-like plastic foam. My husband also said the arch support was almost non-existent despite it looking like there would be some support. This again is due to the plastic foam sole. If you love Crocs and need a pair of dress shoes, then you're in luck. If not, get something else.