I really like these jeans and have several pairs of them. They are comfortable and fit me perfectly. I used to wear 580s and was disappointed when they discontinued them, but these are a great substitute. They have a little stretch to them so I ordered a size up because I don't like my jeans to look painted on. They don't stretch out by the end of the day and get baggy, but after a few weeks the stretch does relax a bit. They keep their color well. Love them!