So surprised by these pants. I work in a custom wood working shop, they have been great. Great attention to details... even the rubber stuff in the waist area, makes them super comfortable and keeps your pants in place and keeps shirts from riding up. Super durable and really comfortable, I have two pair and wear every day.  love the stretch material, great fit. Great price. My only complaint:  my guess is they were designed by a lefty, pencil pocket is on the wrong side!