I was looking forward to loving these pants. I did not. I did end up returning these. The minute I tried them on they did not fit. I have worn the same size forever and usually find things that fit, the fit on these was just off. Another thing was the smell of the fabric, it had this really strong chemical smell that overwelmend me the minute I opened them. That might have been a big reason I returned them. I am sorry to say I was disappointed.