O K.....Have worn these for years and really liked them...but these are not the same as the older version Champion Tech Performance briefs with the light grey waistband,which are no longer available except in small ,apparently that's all that's left. These with the black waistband which apparently replaced them seem to be cut smaller and they really cheaped out on the waistband,it is narrower and flimsier. The first clue
 I guess,should've been that these come in a 2 pack..the older ones came one per.
Bottom line...the elastic in the waistband doesn't  keep them up where they should,they have a tendency slide down. Not nearly the quality as the earlier style....but IMO still better than most of what is available for the price. Yes I probably would still buy them,unless I find something better for the price.