Well, this turtleneck is close to what I expected. It's very lightweight for layering under other Winter clothes. I do like the fabric. The neck is a little snug, but I was able to stretch it slightly and it's better now. The weird thing is, though, I ordered 2 colors and the orange one appears to have been pre-laundered. I guess someone washed it and then returned it? I suppose you can use this photo as an example to show how much it shrinks. I thought maybe they sent 2 different sizes at first, which made me check the tag and realize it had been washed. At least it smells good -- whomever washed it uses Gain.  All things considered, though, I will probably still order it in another color.