Man I was so excited about these, they are soooo buttery soft. I was going to order a bunch more but after wearing them for not even a full day and only sitting on my microfiber couch I had holes in the ass. The fabric isn't see through thin at all, they totally passed the bend over test. I'm not sure what the problem is but if they can't even last 24 hours in my house without tearing they will never survive the outdoors.