i love these shoes.  the 8.5 were to big, and when I went back to order, they weren't available, so I ordered a sandal which was similar, and it was too small.  the good news is, I went back to this sandal just to check, and it was there to order.  got it in a size 8 and it is perfect.  so glad I looked at it again.  WHEW!!!  that was a lot, but I finally got the shoes!  thanks