My husband wanted to love these pants. Some aspects, he does. But others...not so much. He's happy with the knees and how well they are keeping up with him at work. He is a packager for a business that does custom shipping which is often building huge wood crates. So, think woodworking shop. But he also drives for them, so he needed pants that would be versatile and strong. He also needed spots for tools, and he likes the pouches on these that flip in and out of the pockets. His complaint is mostly that the stitching where it's supposed to be reinforced is coming undone. The fabric that the rest of the pants is made from is not as heavy duty as he needs it to be for his job. The fit seems true to size, despite others saying to order up a size. He did that and in my opinion they are too big.