UPDATE!!
I was fully prepared to come back and change this review, I kept thinking maybe Nike changed the kind of rubber they used on the soles, but today I got my genuine Converse Chuck Taylor's direct from Nike/Converse's Web site, and the difference is staggering. The shoes ordered from Amazon/Red Pine Hill are 100% fake, no questions asked. The fakes came in a very real looking Converse Box, had all the right markings, but we're made in a different country, and had a different kind of rubber sole (thicker, and softer), and no cloth layer on the bottom of the sole like traditional chucks. They were very high quality fakes, clearly they took a mold of a real chuck and made the shoe from that mold, but probably made by slave labor in a sweat shop, and would have fallen apart a lot faster. FIND AN AUTHORIZED DEALER OF NIKE/CONVERSE! DO NOT BUY THESE FAKES ON AMAZON.

ORIGINAL REVIEW:
I am confident that the shoes I received from Red Pine Hill were not genuine converse but some imported knock offs being sold for full price. I have owned countless chuck taylors over the years, and never once was I so confused when I first picked up a shoe as when these first arrived. The rubber sole material is not standard converse sole material, but a cheaper grade of rubber. there was no traditional cloth under wrapping on the rubber sole, and the all-star patch on the side was not sewn on as well as the one on my old pair that I was planning to retire. They just didn't feel right. I am sending these back and ordering a pair directly from converse, even if I have to pay a little more for a pair, I don't want some low grade knock-offs.