Absolutely the finest shirts by Neil Allyn I have ever owned! I ordered another five of these and one of Neil Allyn Men's Banded Collar With Black Trim Dress Shirt. I ordered the black trim to see what it was like. Perfect. I will be ordering another five of these. Lots of compliments from friends. They are elegantly stated, but not overdone. Reasonably priced and when delivered, wonderfully packaged for each shirt. I will continue to order more and stock up hoping they don't discontinue these shirts. They look great with black, dark gray, or light gray pants and black shoes. The material is not flimsy.