I have two pairs of the CQR pants. I have had them for just short of 2 years.  If you are looking at these as a way to save money - keep looking.  The fabric is okay but the 5.11s are much better - where these suck is zippers, snaps and buttons. The French fly buttons fell off after a few washings.  The snap absolutely stinks.  I didn't know you could even make a bad snap. And the zipper - well ykk has nothing to worry about.  Needless to say it was a very bad experience.  The 5.11s bought both fedora and after these remain in flawless condition even though the have been worn and washed dozens more times. Basically these get warn when nothing else is clean - the good news is that these pants encourage you to do laundry.