I own probably 8 different color sets of BDU pants, and have them from just about every major brand (Tru-Spec, Rothco, and Propper) this is my third pair of Propper brand BDU pants and this is the first time they have been this far off in size. I have standard woodland, digital woodland and another set, all size large regular, so when I bought these, they ended up fitting quite a bit larger, and after pulling the waist cinches on the side tight, they ended up causing pinching. I was happy to get them, being as its harder to get New BDU's in rip stop fabric. But i ended up returning these due to discomfort in wearing.