Great shorts. Love the material, the belt, the tailoring. I hate paying this much for shorts, but these are worth it. I have Royal Robbins zip-offs that are 20 years old and still going strong. These new shorts look like they have kept the same great quality as my old ones.  I usually buy Large in other shorts, but I bought these in XL knowing that Royal Robbins runs small, and they're still a tad snug.