I cant believe how big these are! Im an 8-10 in pants and usually a small or medium in underpants and the medium in these is huge. They go all the way up to my waist, which is really tall for boy shorts; I tried them on over leggings and they covered the waist band of the leggings. Theyre also wide AF, so Im hoping I can return them, despite the fact that I opened the package.