Felt a little loose when I first put them on, but I played 9 holes with a lot of ups and downs and they were the  most comfortable golf shoes I ever wore. Felt like walking on foam. The bonus with spike less golf shoes is: I can drive with them and when I get to the course, I'm ready to play. No more sitting in my open trunk tying golf shoes. I played on a dry day, so I don't no how they are on wet grass. All I can say is they dug in nice and did their job when I played.