Purchased these with the intention of using them as a regular pair of shorts for a fourth of July party. Quality wise they are fine.  My biggest con to these is the velcro fly.  This particular velcro fly has two small velcro squares, one at the top of the fly where a button would be and the other at the bottom of the fly. If your not careful when you attach the velcro together you could end up exposing your underwear. So last week when I was wearing these, I was at this fourth of July party and was talking with some friends of mine. I hadn't noticed while I was standing there that the top velcro square had ripped open. Moments later I felt the shorts slide down and my gray boxer briefs becoming in full view. I quickly grab the shorts, re attach the velcro only for it to rip open again moments later. I am literally mortified not knowing what to do as the velcro just wouldn't stay together. Despite all of this I will keep the shorts just knowing how terrible the velcro fly is.