Since it's our busy time of year, I ordered these from Amazon instead of getting them at a retail store so he can try them on first, as we've done in the past.  Same size he always gets (40x30), same perfect fit. Very sturdy. These are a nice darkish blue, though not as dark as he usually prefers, but far better than the multiple-washed ones he's been wearing.  Will try for a darker color with my next order.