the shoes are great but I ordered a wide and they were not wide at all.  I might try the extra wide and maybe even another half size larger.  I was really hoping I found the right fit ... the shoes are really great but too narrow and when I walk my feet swell so I didn't want to try them at all.  wore them around the house and I could tell no room for expansion ... but I do plan to order same shoe again I the extra wide if they have them ..