Changed my rating to 1 star. Both pair of pants developed a hole next to the upper left corner of the Right hand back pocket. Then the hole rips down the length of the pocket. One pairs tag started to disintegrate after a few washes. Ive never had problems with Levis until these 2 pair. I don't no if their knock offs or just defective pants. I order 29 length received 30 length, not a big deal.