Usually I find Pumas too narrow for my children's feet, but these fit my boys fine. (They do not have truly wide feet but prefer wide sizes in a few brands.) I bought them because they needed dressy shoes for a First Communion, but I was afraid they wouldn't get enough wear out of formal shoes. These worked perfectly because the Puma logo is hard to see in the black color (black on black), and they were not allowed to wear athletic shoes or shoes with a logo for the Communion service. Also, the shiny/patent parts make these look dressier than the athletic shoes they actually are. At the same time, now my boys have another pair of casual, very comfortable shoes they can wear to school in the fall.