Didnt really care for this watch band. Fairly difficult to get the pins in, I used my original Seiko Fat Spring Bars and I had to force them into the spring bar holes. The size of my wrist I kind of needed a hole between a hole and the leather is very stiff so it didn't work for me. Its black on the inside and the brown color on the outside I ordered, so essentially its two black leather strips glued together with a tiny thin layer of the color I ordered glued to the outside of that. For me it was cheap looking.