too big and blousy (and I'm top heavy) to the point that they're essentially unwearable. Unless you plan to wear your coat all day. I ordered two and they fit HORRIBLY. It wasn't worth my time to return them because they were so cheap but I hardly wear them. I probably should've ordered a small to get them to fit the way that I want them to and I'm normally a 12/14 misses! They get stretched out of place the more that you wear them and they are SO THIN there is no warmth at all. Worse turtleneck ever!