These are great shoes, once you fine the right size. I normally wear anywhere from a 7.5-8.5 in shoes. I had to buy these twice to figure out I wear a 9.5. My daughter who is normally an 8.5-9 is womens shoes is wearing an 11. Way off Steve! Once you figure out that you need to size up at least a whole number, they are comfortable. Easy slip on and off and super comfortable! Love them.