These are pretty cool.  As far as I can tell from a straight out of the box and working as youd expect I can say I find good value.  Time will tell if this is a four star or five star review.  Could become 5 if they last a year.  They make my fat jeans fit again and that in itself is great for those who lost weight.  I cant rely on the most good belt I had due to loosing my rather large for a man caboose. I went from hero to zero but these things help my family shield their eyes to plumbers crack.  The colors are fashionable and if anyone needs to see before and after photos I think I could make money writing reviews  hope this helps