I normally wear either an 8.5 or 9 shoe size.  The 9's were too large, and the 8.5 was not available in brown, so I will be returning them.  I am looking for a replacement for the LLBean Camp Moc that was discontinued, and these are the closest thing to them that I could find.  If I can find them in 8.5, and order them, I will probably cut off the little green Eastland tag that is on the back of the shoe.  That is just such a weird thing to have on a shoe.