Loved most things about these:1. lighter weight for a thick sturdy leather shoe, 2 the rubber toe, 3 the sole was very comfy, and 4 the tread gripped awesome even on ice. What I DIDN"T like: it didn't matter how tight I pulled the laces I couldn't get the show to snuggly hug my foot. it would be tight over my arch but the heel would slip even with thicker wool socks. So had to return as this will not work for summer hiking and treks.