Liked these so much I ordered a second pair, even though the elastic waist band was too tight. I wear a 36 in pants and this tall large should be for a 38-42 waist, but it is tight on me. The second pair is not a tight. I bought them for the length since I am 64 and the extra long waist or very long crotch is fine with me as long as they reach my feet. Unfortunately, they developed 4 holes in the left leg, almost like moth holes, after I had them for only a month or so. Too much trouble to return them so I will just keep wearing them hoping the holes don't expand too much.