I love these boots. The discontinued black version are the best I have ever owned. I can work all day in these and not have terrible back or foot ache. I know they are not rated waterproof--but have had them in some pretty gross weather without leaks. I am finally getting a new pair after a year and a half---I usually have to get new after 6 months. Great boots--let's hope the company does not change the formula--and also, please bring back the black.