I saw these pants at different site for $30 dollars more.  I did some comparison shopping and of course found them cheaper at Amazon.  These pants fit slightly larger than expected and have even more room the longer you wear them.  My normal size is a 4 or 6 and I bought the 6 after reading other reviews.  The 6 seemed a bit on the loose side.  The pants fit really well and look great with casual/active tops.  They are not too thick and not too thin making them perfect for spring or fall weather.  Not sure how they will breathe in Vegas summers, but we will see.  These pants do have some sound when you walk, sit, or squat but it's not too annoying. The pockets on the back are positioned well that they flatter my rear.  I love these pants so I also bought them in Charcoal.  I am also thinking about purchasing other colors too.