Odd fit.  One of many pairs of hiking pants I tried on before I found something that works.  I don't even know what to say about fit because this one, like many others fit big in some places and small in others.  Did not work for me, but I am realizing that not many types of hiking pants do. Could someone please make a simple pair of loose fitting, elastic waist pants out of light, quick dry fabric, with maybe some snaps or a strap for rolling them up?