These are decent undies for the price I suppose however,  I ordered up a size and glad I did because for some reason the side seams and waist band is much thicker elastic than the ones I bought years ago. So they pinch and rub a little bit. Having sized up gives a little room so at least they won't create a rash. I'm still searching for truely comfy undies that don't cost a fortune . I wish I could find the ones I bought from Wal-Mart years ago soooo much better than these "new and improved" ones!