These are terrible. Very poor quality, poor stitching, the material is shiny and just feels gross. My biggest complaint is that on the band, the elastic rolls around inside because its not sewn properly and the fabric around the elastic is too big for the width of the elastic thus causing the band to not lay flat. They run small. I usually wear a medium or large in pants like this, I ordered a large and they are too small. As soon as I opened up the package and gave a little stretch to the waist band the tie for the band was pulled in through the hole and I had to fish it out bc they didn't even bother to knot the ends of the drawstring! Poor quality. Sending them back.