I have ordered two pairs of these and love them. The first pair were true to size and the second pair I had to order a size up. I spent months trying to find the perfect pair for my mom for Christmas and due to a price increase I didn't order these right away.  After many returns due to sizing and poor quality I finally gave in and just reorder these at the higher price. I should have  ordered these in the first place. My mom also like these pants and she's not one who normally wears this style of clothing. I I know keep these on my list just I  case I ever need a new pair.