Overall I'm pretty disappointed with the shirts that I ordered. I was expecting a guy talk brand shirt and instead I received Omega brand.  Now Omega  may be a subsidiary but that needs to be explained in the description. The deal-breaker for me is the sleeve length. I ordered these what would for any other brand be two sizes larger than I normally wear expecting the sleeves to be a 36 or 37 length like the label claims. What I receive instead is a shirt with a sleeve length that goes about halfway down my forearm. Literally 5 inches shorter than what it purports to be.  Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for, and in this case I've definitely learned that lesson.