These pants are TINY. I'm normally a size 16w, and other Lee slacks I've gotten stretch out and end up too big, so I got a 14w, which is REALLY small. So I went a size up and ordered another pair in 16w, and it's basically the same size! I can't see any difference between the two! All my other Lee pants are 16w and I can't even get into these. The fabric is very nice, but I should've ordered an 18 or even a 20 because they're so small.