I just got a new job that is business casual and I thought these shoes are perfect starter for many outfits. I bought my true size which is 8.5 med. They were a little too long, But they fit great in wh width. I was hoping I could just wear some thick bootie socks but they still slipped off my feet when I walked. I sent them back as bought a size 8 med. I also took a gamble and bought 3 different colors. Good news is they all fit the same (you know how some shoes in different colors fit different, well not these). Also good news they fit wonderfully in the length with or without bootie socks. Unfortunately they are a little tight, but Im gonna keep them and just work them in. They are very comfortable and me being 511 I think the height is perfect. Ill most likely continue to buy lifestride shoes.