I love these socks and can't believe I haven't bought them sooner!  I live in converse sneakers and these are perfect for no show socks! The best feature about them is that they have little a little grip on the heal to prevent them from slipping off (my biggest pet peeve) and they stayed put all day!.  I wear a women's size 7 if that helps. They are thin, not a thick sock, and in hoping they hold up well in the wash.  If they don't I will update my review