Vikipeedia arutelu:Saatkond/Arhiiv 2

The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes.  The design for each dialog box and window was simplified.  The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top.  Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X").  Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
* Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed.  A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments.  You can click on the icon to see the comment.
* You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images.  A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item.  Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
* All references and footnotes (<ref> tags) are now made through the "" menu, including the "" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "" menu.  The "" is still added via the "" menu.
* When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
* All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August.  You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
* The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
* The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing.  To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
=== Looking ahead ===
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.  The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon.  Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.  Support for upright image sizes is being developed.  The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables.  Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
=== Feedback opportunities ===
The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London.  The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30.  The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30. There is a VisualEditor Translation Sprint going on during Wikimania; whether you're in London or not, any contributions are welcome!
Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).
If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at :w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 9. august 2014, kell 17:40 (EEST)

VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.
If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.
* Letter to Wikimedia Foundation: Superprotect and Media Viewer
* Letter on change.org
-- JurgenNL (talk) 21. august 2014, kell 20:35 (EEST)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’
Hello,
I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects?  We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.
I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.
Kind regards,
-- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22. august 2014, kell 01:15 (EEST)
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Excuse me for not speaking Estonian yet.
Wikimedia España invites you to join the Monuments of Spain Challenge. And what’s that? It’s a contest. You have to edit, translate or expand articles about the Spanish monuments and you will be granted points. So you’re not just writing about wonderful buildings: you can get prizes!
The time of the contest will include all October and any information you may need is right here.
Join in and good luck!
PS: We would be grateful if you could translate this note into Estonian.
B25es on behalf of Wikimedia España. 27. september 2014, kell 21:59 (EEST)

Excuse me for writing in English. Please can someone assist me, at Malli arutelu:Normandmed#ORCID? Pigsonthewing (arutelu) 15. september 2014, kell 18:30 (EEST)

:Apologies for English.  Please help translate this message.
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet.
Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.
*Submit your proposal
*Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 2. september 2014, kell 19:52 (EEST)

Excuse me for not speaking Estonian yet.
Oviedo, September 8, 2014
200px|thumbnail|right|Asturian is alive and in use.
Next September 12 and 13, the Asturian Wikipedia community of users will celebrate with the support of Wikimedia España Chapter the tenth anniversary of  Uiquipedia, the free encyclopedia in Asturian. The events will take place in Auditorio Príncipe Felipe (Plaza La Gesta, Oviedo).
The first article in Asturian was «Zazaki», a minority language spoken in Turkey. That first edit was in July 26, 2004. Ten years later, more than 800 000 edits have been made on almost 20 000 articles, and numbers are growing every day with the work of tens of volunteers. And it doesn’t stop there: other Wikimedia projects in Asturian have developed, such as Wikicionary, Wikisource and Wikiquote. Managed by Wikimedia Foundation, all of them make part of a global movement that started in 2001 when Wikipedia started with the goal of delivering freely all human knowledge.
To commemorate this date, Uiquipedia and Wikimedia España are carrying out two days of celebration events so that the projects in Asturian are better known. Literature, poetry music and traditions in Asturian will be present. It’s free and everybody is welcome. In addition, Wikimedia España will have its annual General Assembly in Oviedo.
See here the schedule of activities.
B25es (arutelu) 8. september 2014, kell 20:44 (EEST)

Ten years of Wikipedia in Asturian language

VisualEditor will become available to users of Microsoft Internet Explorer 11 during today's regular software update.  Support for some earlier versions of Internet Explorer is being worked on.  If you encounter problems with VisualEditor on Internet Explorer, please contact the Editing team by leaving a message at VisualEditor/Feedback on Mediawiki.org.  Happy editing, Elitre (WMF) 11. september 2014, kell 10:29 (EEST).
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VisualEditor available on Internet Explorer 11

Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.
We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):
#Boy (administrator)
#KS (administrator)
#Lulu (administrator)
#Peep (administrator)
#Priitp (administrator)
#Ulla (administrator)
These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.
However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 17. august 2014, kell 06:48 (EEST)

Tundub, et meil on olnud ligilähedane konsensus, et administraatoriõigusi mitteaktiivsuse pärast ära ei võeta. Muidugi tuleb sellest poliitikast varem või hiljem loobuda. Andres (arutelu) 17. august 2014, kell 07:45 (EEST)

: No tegelikult ei, kui selleteemaliste arutelude järgi otsustada. Arvamused mitteaktiivsuse küsimuses on jagunenud umbes pooleks. Kuna meil pole õnnestunud oma reegleid vastu võtta, siis kehtivad globaalsed reeglid ühes sealsete kriteeriumitega. Minu poolest võibki nii jääda. Pikne 17. august 2014, kell 11:43 (EEST)

:: Igatahes meil on võimalus oma reeglid kehtestada. Vastu meie tahtmist midagi ei tehta. Andres (arutelu) 17. august 2014, kell 13:20 (EEST)
To sum up, currently there is no explicit opposition to remove rights from these six users in particular and we currently don't have plan to adopt a local policy regarding admin activity. Pikne 7. oktoober 2014, kell 15:27 (EEST)

Hello, I am looking for someone to translate the English Wikipedia article: Tin Can Cathedral into Estonian.  I have put the text of the article into my Estonian Sandbox: Kasutaja:Nicola Mitchell/liivakast.  Though I am not fluent in Estonian, if I had an Estonian text I would not have much difficulty creating this article in the Estonian Wikipedia.  I am not interested in a stub, but in the translation of the entire article.  I would be grateful for anyone who wishes to take a look at it and perhaps try their hand at it.  Thank you. Nicola Mitchell (arutelu) 19. september 2014, kell 23:48 (EEST)Nicola Mitchell (arutelu) 19. september 2014, kell 23:50 (EEST)

Ma ei tea, kes selle siia tõstis, aga minu meelest tõlkimispalve ei kuulu siia. Andres (arutelu) 22. september 2014, kell 12:46 (EEST)

:Siis tuleks Üldise arutelu päises olevat teksti muuta -- praegu on seal kirjas, et tõlked (?) tuleb lisada Saatkonna lehele... WikedKentaur (arutelu) 8. oktoober 2014, kell 22:16 (EEST)

Hi! As part of :meta:File metadata cleanup drive, could some of you create a template for file information (:d:Q6466010)? I see that this kind of template does not exist on the Estonian Wikipedia. You can take example of those given on the link or copy a simply version from :meta:File metadata cleanup drive/How to fix metadata/Simple information template. Best regards, --Stryn (arutelu) 22. oktoober 2014, kell 22:07 (EEST)

Ah, it's already at Mall:Pildiinfo. Then, let's cleanup the metadata, lol :) --Stryn (arutelu) 23. oktoober 2014, kell 18:25 (EEST)

Hello all,
There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.
We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.
It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.
Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 26. oktoober 2014, kell 20:04 (EET)

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Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for:
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Hello,
AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.
Thanks,
PiRSquared17, Glaisher — 14. november 2014, kell 19:34 (EET)

Did you know?
VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Log in and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings button in the upper-right corner to pick which editor to use. Choose "" to use VisualEditor, or "" to use the wikitext editor.
It will remember whether you used wikitext or VisualEditor, and use the same editor the next time you edit an article.
The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available on the mobile website.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
=== Recent improvements ===
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in them was just introduced to Wikipedias. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be added later.
To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus are now hidden behind a "" item, such as "" in the styling menu.
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias this week, and the following week at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar menus are now shown in the menus.
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience/Design group. The appearance of dialog boxes has already changed in the mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. You are welcome to compare the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search engine could not find the page. A link inside a template to a local page that does not exist will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to an error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like  with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
=== TemplateData ===
The tool for quickly editing TemplateData has been deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool was already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData to learn more about it. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common value for that parameter. The autovalue can be overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required".  The template dialog box in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "" or "" in TemplateData instead.
=== Looking ahead ===
The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide is being updated to add information about editing tables.
The translations of the user guide for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.  Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.

You can influence VisualEditor's design! Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
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 15. november 2014, kell 01:29 (EET)

The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide is being updated to add information about editing tables.
The translations of the user guide for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.  Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.

You can influence VisualEditor's design! Tell the VisualEditor team what you want changed during the office hours via IRC. The next sessions are on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC and on Wednesday 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC. You can also share your ideas at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
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The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
*Elsevier - science and medicine journals and books
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*Pelican Books - ebook monographs
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Did you know?
Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from tables at the click of a button.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
=== Recent improvements ===
Basic support for editing tables is now available. You can add and delete tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ^ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "" into a "".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "* " will make the line a bullet list; "1." or "#" will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change.
There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ^ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.
=== Looking ahead ===
The current VisualEditor design will be replaced with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at mediawiki.org in late December and on other sites in early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January.
Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.
=== Let's work together ===
* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* Translations of the user guide for most languages are outdated. Only Ukrainian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and Dutch translations are nearly current. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.
* Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
* File requests for language-appropriate "" and "" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
* The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
* If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
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26. detsember 2014, kell 20:59 (EET)

* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* Translations of the user guide for most languages are outdated. Only Ukrainian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and Dutch translations are nearly current. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.
* Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
* File requests for language-appropriate "" and "" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
* The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
* If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. Thank you!
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Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.
We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):
#Siim (administrator)
#Urmas (administrator)
These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.
However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 12. jaanuar 2015, kell 08:44 (EET)

Mulle meeldiks küll, kui meil oleks oma poliitika. Andres (arutelu) 12. jaanuar 2015, kell 20:51 (EET)

Hi, this message is to let you know that, on domains like .m.wikipedia.org, unregistered users cannot edit. At the Wikimedia Forum, where global configuration changes are normally discussed, a few dozens users propose to restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites. Please read and comment!
Thanks and sorry for writing in English, Nemo 2. märts 2015, kell 00:32 (EET)

[Global proposal] m.{{SITENAME}}.org: {{int:group-all}} {{int:right-edit}}

Apologies for writing in English, please help translate this into your local language.
Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
*Project MUSE — humanities and social science books and journals
*DynaMed — clinical reference tool for medical topics
*Royal Pharmaceutical Society — pharmaceutical information and practice resources
*Women Writers Online — a digital humanities database focused on women's literature
*Newspapers.com — American newspapers database w/ Open Access opportunities (expansion of accounts)
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
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This March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 31.
All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive, positive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign and help this project better represent the world’s knowledge!

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Hi all,apologies for writing in English, please read this page for important information and an update involving SUL finalization, scheduled to take place in one month. Thanks. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 13. märts 2015, kell 21:45 (EET)

Hello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 10. aprill 2015, kell 19:12 (EEST)

Did you know?
With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:
Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results.  Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:
After inserting the citation, you can change it.  Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC).  You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker.  Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug.  Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.
=== Recent improvements ===
VisualEditor is now substantially faster.  In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.
The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias.  The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.
Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates.  If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users.  After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March.  This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.
Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese.  These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”).  Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.
The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model.  Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries.  This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.
You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.
The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu".  It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename.  The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.
Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.
Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734)
=== Looking ahead ===
The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor.  Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list.  Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.
The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors.  The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666)
=== Let's work together ===
* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* Can you translate from English into any other language?  Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language.  Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
* The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
* File requests for language-appropriate "" and "" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta.  If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations!  Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or  contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
— Elitre (WMF)
 10. aprill 2015, kell 22:48 (EEST)

* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* Can you translate from English into any other language?  Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language.  Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
* The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
* File requests for language-appropriate "" and "" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta.  If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations!  Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or  contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
— Elitre (WMF)
</div> 10. aprill 2015, kell 22:48 (EEST)

:Dear Wikimedians, Wikimedia Polska Association has made a decision to fund two more scholarships for this year’s Wikimania, to be hosted in Mexico City 15-19 July 2015. The procedure is identical to the one described here, so if you have not applied, but meet the criteria and would like to attend WIkimedia’s biggest international event, please submit your application until April 23, midnight. Kind regards, Wpedzich (arutelu) 19. aprill 2015, kell 11:47 (EEST)

Wikimania 2015 - two additional scholarships

Part or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.
Single-user login (SUL) finalisation's goal is so that every Wikimedia editor has a single, recognized global account with one username across all projects. As you may know, after a long delay, it's now underway as an effort between bureaucrats, stewards, and Wikimedia Foundation engineers. This will also allow for development of cross-wiki tools like global notifications and watchlists. There is no set date for the completion of single-user login finalization at this time.
The process involves changing all rename processes into one global renaming process. The ability for local bureaucrats to rename users on this wiki will be turned off on Monday, 15 September 2014, as one of the first steps. Global renamers are in the process of being created to make sure projects and languages are represented by the time this occurs. I sent a note to every bureaucrat about this process three weeks ago with an invitation to participate and many have begun requesting to be a part of the group. Together with the stewards, the global renamers will be empowered to help editors work through the often difficult process of getting a global name.
In parting, visit Special:MergeAccount to unify your account if you have never done so. If your local pages about renaming still need to be updated, please do so and consider pointing people to :m:SRUC for future rename requests, especially if this project does not have bureaucrats that hold global renamer permissions. If you have any questions, you can read more on the help page on Meta. You can also follow the technical progress on mediawiki.org. Contact me on Meta any time with questions as well. Thank you for your time. -- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 9. september 2014, kell 16:22 (UTC)

Since the last newsletter, the  Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements.
Status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the  VisualEditor roadmap.
The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC).  Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins.
Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.
=== Recent improvements ===
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:
* starts a new task, like opening the  dialog:  blue ,
* takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation:   green ,
* might remove or lose your work, like removing a link:    red ,  or
* is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window:    gray .
The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor.   (T67815, T73746.) This change fixed a couple of existing bugs and improved usability. (T73077, T73078.)
Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once.(T78234.)
Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedia requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace. (T86688, T87027.) If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
=== Looking ahead ===
The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.
We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.
=== Let's work together ===
*Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
*Please help  complete translations of the user guide for users who speak your language.
*Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC); information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins, and you can also contact James F. to learn more about this initiative.
*Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.
*Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta.  If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready.  Thank you!
— Elitre (WMF)
 5. veebruar 2015, kell 20:30 (EET)
Me peame vaatama, millised puudused meil on, ja kontrollima, kas neist teatakse. Andres (arutelu) 5. veebruar 2015, kell 22:37 (EET)

Seda vikilingi muutmise kala olen mitu korda teatanud: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56947 --WikedKentaur (arutelu) 3. märts 2015, kell 17:31 (EET)

*Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
*Please help  complete translations of the user guide for users who speak your language.
*Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC); information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins, and you can also contact James F. to learn more about this initiative.
*Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.
*Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta.  If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready.  Thank you!
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</div> 5. veebruar 2015, kell 20:30 (EET)
Me peame vaatama, millised puudused meil on, ja kontrollima, kas neist teatakse. Andres (arutelu) 5. veebruar 2015, kell 22:37 (EET)

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Greetings,
I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process.
This year, elections are being held for the following roles:
Board of Trustees
The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection.  There are three positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the board elections page.
Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities.  There are five positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC elections page.
Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud
The FDC Ombud receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees,  and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis.  One position is being filled.  More information about this role can be found at the FDC Ombudsperson elections page.
The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 20 to 23:59 UTC May 5 for the Board and from 00:00 UTCApril 20 to 23:59 UTC April 30 for the FDC and FDC Ombudsperson. This year, we are accepting both self-nominations and nominations of others. More information on this election and the nomination process can be found on the 2015 Wikimedia elections page on Meta-Wiki.
Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections -at- wikimedia.org
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 21. aprill 2015, kell 05:03 (UTC) • Translate • Get help

[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections 2015/Call for candidates|Nominations are being accepted for 2015 Wikimedia Foundation elections]]

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson will continue during the voting. Nominations for the Board of Trustees will be accepted until 23:59 UTC May 5.
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions on the committee being filled.
The FDC Ombudsperson receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 3 to 23:59 UTC May 10. Click here to vote. Questions and discussion with the candidates will continue during that time. Click here to ask the FDC candidates a question. Click here to ask the FDC Ombudsperson candidates a question. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 FDC election page, the 2015 FDC Ombudsperson election page, and the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 4. mai 2015, kell 03:45 (UTC) • Translate • Get help

[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections 2015/MassMessages/FDC voting has begun|Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections 2015]]

Apologies for writing in English, please help translate this into your local language.
Hello Wikimedians!
Today The Wikipedia Library announces signups for more free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
* MIT Press Journals — scholarly journals in the humanities, sciences, and social sciences  (200 accounts)
* Loeb Classical Library — Harvard University Press versions of Classical Greek and Latin literature with commentary and annotation (25 accounts)
* RIPM — music periodicals published between 1760 and 1966 (20 accounts)
* Sage Stats — social science data for geographies within the United States (10 accounts)
* HeinOnline  — an extensive legal research database, including 2000 law-related journals as well as international legal history materials (25 accounts)
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, JSTOR, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 5. mai 2015, kell 01:12 (EEST)

We need your help! Help coordinate Wikipedia Library's account distribution and global development! Please join our team at Global our new coordinator signup.

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New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2015)

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 17. mai 2015, kell 17:20 (UTC) • Translate • Get help

[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/339?setlang=et Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections 2015]

Sorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core.  If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a  migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.
There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.
Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 5. juuni 2015, kell 19:30 (UTC)

Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core

Did you know?
When you click on a link to an article, you now see more information:
The link tool has been re-designed:
There are separate tabs for linking to internal and external pages.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has created new interfaces for the link and citation tools and fixed many bugs and changed some elements of the design.  Some of these bugs affected users of VisualEditor on mobile devices. Status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
A test of VisualEditor's effect on new editors at the English Wikipedia has just completed the first phase.  During this test, half of newly registered editors had VisualEditor automatically enabled, and half did not.  The main goal of the study is to learn which group was more likely to save an edit and to make productive, unreverted edits.  Initial results will be posted at Meta later this month.
=== Recent improvements ===
Auto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service.  Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation.  If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May.  All citations are now created inside a single tool.  Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (, , or ).  The cite button is now labeled with the word "" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "", for the submit button.
The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing.  It now has two separate sections:  one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages (where applicable). Search results have been reduced to the first five pages.  Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector.  (T98085)
The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor.  Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list.  Please read the instructions for customizing the list at mediawiki.org.  Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter. (T70425)
Several improvements have been made to templates.  When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "" each time they want to add another parameter.  (T95696) The team added a new property for TemplateData, "", for template parameters.  This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter. (T53049)
The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme.  In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars.  Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled.
The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images.  If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed.
=== Let's work together ===
* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Wednesday at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC).  Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings.  You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker, though.  Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the VisualEditor Q4 blocker project with the bug.
* If your Wikivoyage, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, or other community wants to have VisualEditor made available by default to contributors, then please contact James Forrester.
* If you would like to request the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData  for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
*The team is planning the second VisualEditor-related "translathon" for July. Please follow this task on Phabricator for details and updates! Announcements will follow in due course.
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta.  If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations!  Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or  contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
— Elitre (WMF)
13. juuni 2015, kell 13:44 (EEST)

* Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
* The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Wednesday at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC).  Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings.  You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker, though.  Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the VisualEditor Q4 blocker project with the bug.
* If your Wikivoyage, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, or other community wants to have VisualEditor made available by default to contributors, then please contact James Forrester.
* If you would like to request the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData  for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
*The team is planning the second VisualEditor-related "translathon" for July. Please follow this task on Phabricator for details and updates! Announcements will follow in due course.
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta.  If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations!  Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or  contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
— Elitre (WMF)
</div>13. juuni 2015, kell 13:44 (EEST)

Hello Wikimedians!
Today The Wikipedia Library announces signups for more free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
* Taylor & Francis  — academic publisher of journals. The pilot includes two subject collections: Arts & Humanities and Biological, Environment & Earth Sciences. (30 accounts)
*World Bank eLibrary  — digital platform containing all books, working papers, and journal articles published by the World Bank from the 1990s to the present.  (100 accounts)
* AAAS — general interest science publisher, who publishes the journal Science among other sources (50 accounts)
New French-Language Branch!
* Érudit (en Francais) — Érudit is a French-Canadian scholarly aggregator primarily, humanities and social sciences, and contains sources in both English and French. Signups on both English and French Wikipedia (50 accounts).
* Cairn.info (en Francais) —  Cairn.info is a Switzerland based online web portal of scholarly materials in the humanities and social sciences. Most sources are in French, but some also in English. Signups on both English and French Wikipedia (100 accounts).
* L'Harmattan — French language publisher across a wide range of non-fiction and fiction, with a strong selection of francophone African materials  (1000 accounts).
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including an expansion of accounts for Royal Society journals and remaining accounts on Project MUSE, JSTOR, DeGruyter, Highbeam Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. If you have suggestions for journals or databases we should seek access to make a request! Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 15. juuni 2015, kell 22:08 (UTC)

We need your help! Help coordinate Wikipedia Library's account distribution and global development! Please join our team at our new coordinator signup.

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New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (June 2015)

Apologies for writing in English.
Hi everyone.
Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals.
Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified.
Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions.
/Johan (WMF)
 20. juuni 2015, kell 01:00 (EEST)

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)
This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 24. juuli 2015, kell 08:07 (EEST)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images

Hi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community.
Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship!
Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.
=== Why get involved? ===
The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.
=== More information ===
* All participants must have a registered user of at least one month antiquity on any Wikimedia project before the starting date of the campaign.
*  All eligible contributions must be done until August 23, 2015 at 23:59 UTC
*  Wiki link: Community Health learning campaign
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*  All eligible contributions must be done until August 23, 2015 at 23:59 UTC
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(Sorry for writing in English)
When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects, there is currently a limitation in place that hinders some use cases: data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So, for example, the Wikipedia article about Berlin can only get data from the Wikidata item about Berlin but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. We are now removing this limitation. It is already done for many projects. Your project is one of the next ones. We will roll out this feature here on August 12.
We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to d:Wikidata:Contact the development team.
A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a single page. If it is too many pages, loading might get slow. We will have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need to tweak and how.
How to use it, once it is enabled:
* Parser function: {{#property:P36|from=Q183}} to get the capital from the item about Germany
* Lua: see mw:Extension:Wikibase Client/Lua
Cheers Lydia Pintscher MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 3. august 2015, kell 20:46 (EEST)

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is coming

(Sorry for writing in English)
Hi everyone,
As I have previously announced here we have now enabled the arbitrary access feature here. This means from now on you can make use of data from any Wikidata item in any article here. Before you could for example only access data about Berlin in the article about Berlin. If you want to find out more or have questions please come to d:Wikidata:Arbitrary access. I hope this will open up great possibilities for you and make your work easier.
Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 12. august 2015, kell 16:32 (EEST)

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is here

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Arutelu:Lauri Liiv

Pikem intervjuu, mis subj. andis 05.04.2014.: -Mardus (arutelu) 4. detsember 2014, kell 14:59 (EET)
Kategooriad lõpust kadunud. Andres (arutelu) 24. veebruar 2015, kell 01:52 (EET)


Arutelu:Dornse

Dornse ehk dörnse on keskaegse elamu tagumine hoovipoolne elutuba, mida köeti keldrist hüpokaustkerisega. Dornse ees oli diele.

Enne oli nii, nüüd vormindus kaotatud. Kas praegune on sõna-sõnalt raamatust? Andres (arutelu) 6. detsember 2014, kell 20:10 (EET)

Siia tuleb mitmeid linke kujul diele-dornse, diele-dornse süsteem ja v-o peakski tegema ühise artikli--Estopedist1 (arutelu) 15. mai 2015, kell 09:47 (EEST)


Arutelu:Britannic

Laeva kapten oli Charles A. Bartlett, kes oli omal ajal kapten Edward John Smithiga enam-vähem võrdne.

Arusaamatu lause. Andres (arutelu) 7. detsember 2014, kell 16:05 (EET)

Palun artikli nime muuta vastavalt HMHS Britannic-uks.

Kindlasti mitte. Laeva nimi oli "Britannic", mitte "HMHS Britannic". Vaadake kasvõi ingliskeelsest Vikipeediast, neil on laevanimed artiklite pealkirjades kursiivis. Eesti Vikipeedias ongi artikli pealkirjaks üksnes laevanimi. Ssgreporter (arutelu) 21. veebruar 2017, kell 00:01 (EET)


Õigem oleks Randvere raamatukogu - esisuurtähega. Suunamist ei saa teha. Palun oskajatel ära parandada! --Amherst99 (arutelu) 7. detsember 2014, kell 18:59 (EET)

Puänt on selles, Eestis on mitu Randveret. --Juhan121 (arutelu) 7. detsember 2014, kell 19:19 (EET)

Tere!
Kuidas lisada oma arvutis olevat pilti, mis on minu tehtud, Randvere Raamatukogu kohta?
Tervitades
janelys

Kõigepealt tuleb pilt üles laadida. Täpsemalt loe lehelt Vikipeedia:Piltide kasutamine. Pikne 20. detsember 2014, kell 16:00 (EET)

https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arutelu:Randvere raamatukogu (Viimsi vald)


Arutelu:Püha Patricku päev

Õige on püha Patricku päev, mitte Püha Patricku päev . Parandatud. 88.196.28.229 8. detsember 2014, kell 13:36 (EET)
Artiklis Eesti rahvakalender on traditsiooniliste Eesti pühade hulgas loetletud "patrikupäev". Julgen selle levikus küll mõnevõrra kahelda, kuna päev läks isegi katoliku ametlikku pruuki üsna hilja ja mis meil siin Patrickust teati... Kõlab küll umbes nii, nagu istutataks 26. juunile vanarahva hoosemaarjapäev ja 14. augustile maksimiiljanipäev. Aga kui mu skepsisele vaatamata leidub korralikke viidatavaid andmeid, võiks muidugi ka eesti kombestiku sisse panna. --Ehitaja (arutelu) 31. mai 2020, kell 02:19 (EEST)

Kui on keegi Vikipeedia teadmiste jagamise filosoofia vaimus, kui leidub kedagi, kes redigeeriks seda artiklit ja oskaks inglise keelt ning kellel oleks vaba aega, kas saaksite aidata tõlkida [[:en:Saint Patrick's Day | Püha Patricku ingliskeelne artikkel] s Day]] sellesse keelde? Ma ei valda seda keelt ja nõuan kahjuks, et Google Translator selle sõnumi kirjutaks. Ingliskeelse artikli tõlkimisel sellesse keelde saab see usaldusväärsemalt hangitavat teavet inimestele, kes ei oska inglise keelt ja kes võivad olla huvitatud Püha Patricku päeval rohkem teada saama. Lisaks, kui teie riigis või riigis, kus seda keelt räägitakse, on festivale, paraade või muid võimalusi Püha Patricku päeva tähistamiseks ning neid pole ingliskeelses artiklis loetletud, lisage need igal juhul ingliskeelseks artikliks kõlarid lugeda. See oleks väga teretulnud.
In the spirit of the Wikipedia philosophy of sharing knowledge, if there is anyone editing this article that can speak English and has some free time, could you please help by translating the English article of St Patrick´s Day into this language?  I am not fluent in this language and unfortunately require Google Translator to write this message. By translating the English article into this language, it will provide more reliably sourced information to people who cannot speak English and who may be interested to know more on St Patrick´s Day. Additionally, if there are festivals, parades or other ways of celebrating St Patrick´s Day in your country or a country where this language is spoken and they are not listed on the English article, then by all means include them into the article for English speakers to read.  It would be very appreciated.

Selle artikli tundmise laiendamine inglise keelest Vikipeedia artiklit tõlkides / Expanding knowledge of this Article by translating from English Wikipedia article


Arutelu:Lääne-Saare vald

Kas see vald on juba olemas. Mis kuupäevast? Andres (arutelu) 9. detsember 2014, kell 08:41 (EET)

mis see mall oli, mis tähistas kestvat sündmust?--Bioneer1 (arutelu) 10. detsember 2014, kell 01:50 (EET)

kas moodustatakse uued külad, mis on praegu punased lingid, või lihtsalt külad jäävad nüüd uude valda, mispuhul tuleks artiklid lihtsalt ümber nimetada?--Bioneer1 (arutelu) 10. detsember 2014, kell 01:50 (EET)
Samad külad. Pole selge, mis saab samanimelistest küladest. Uues vallas on 2 Mõisaküla, 2 Põlluküla, 2 Kirikuküla ja 2 Kulli küla. --Metsavend 13. detsember 2014, kell 17:21 (EET)

Muudeti neli nime, kolm küla liideti . (Ainult et asulate nimistu uut redaktsiooni pole Riigi Teatajas veel kehtivaks märgitud, kuigi oli määratud, et haldus- ja asustusjaotust muudetakse samal päeval.) Pikne 13. detsember 2014, kell 17:52 (EET)

Miks ei või artiklipealkirju samaks jätta? Andres (arutelu) 13. detsember 2014, kell 19:48 (EET)

: Pealkirjade muutmine pole ehk pakiline, aga ühtlustamise eesmärgil on minu meelest parem muuta. See võib ka segadust tekitada, kui nüüdse asula artiklipealkirjas on täpsustus endise haldusjaotuse järgi. Seni oleme täpsustused sellistel juhtudel muutnud. Pikne 15. detsember 2014, kell 20:59 (EET)

:: Siis on probleem, kuidas samanimelisi külasid eristada. Andres (arutelu) 15. detsember 2014, kell 23:40 (EET)

::: See on valla probleem, kuna seaduse järgi ei saa ühes vallas samanimelisi külasid olla. --WikedKentaur (arutelu) 16. detsember 2014, kell 00:19 (EET)

:::: Noh, kui nimed niikuinii muudetakse, siis pole mõtet artiklite pealkirju muutma hakata.  Andres (arutelu) 16. detsember 2014, kell 00:25 (EET)

::: Millest jutt käib? Sama nimega (praeguseid) külasid pole enam. Kui küla nimi muutus, siis tuleb ju niikuinii pealkirja muuta. Muudel juhtudel, kui nimi ei muutunud, on ühtlustamise eesmärgil mõtet muuta sulgudes täpsustusega pealkirju. Pikne 16. detsember 2014, kell 12:39 (EET)
Asulate malli pole minu meelest siin tarvis. Pikne 13. detsember 2014, kell 17:52 (EET)

*  Andres Tinno 2014-?
--WikedKentaur (arutelu) 26. august 2017, kell 08:19 (EEST)


Arutelu:Tuberkuloos

meil on ka märksõna veisetuberkuloos. Kas sellist mõistet eksisteerib?--Bioneer1 (arutelu) 11. detsember 2014, kell 14:20 (EET)

Tere Bioneer1!

ikka vast leiab

aga Tuberkuloos, Veiste tuberkuloosi tõrje eeskiri...

Mariina 11. detsember 2014, kell 14:38 (EET) alias Простота

Kogu selle üksikasjalikkuse kõrval puudub artiklis kõige olulisem teave, mis peaks olema paari lausega artikli alguses:
*millal muutus tuberkuloos valdavalt letaalse lõpuga haigusest ravitavaks haiguseks
*milline teadussaavutus selle pöörde tõi ja millal see pöördus just Eestis.Ssgreporter (arutelu) 9. juuni 2017, kell 00:43 (EEST)


Arutelu:Is Semantics Possible?

Mõned üldnimed on tuletatud tegusõnadest ("õpetaja").

Arvan, et selle lause võib välja jätta, sest argumentatsioonis sellest midagi ei olene. Andres (arutelu) 12. detsember 2014, kell 11:32 (EET)
Traditsioonilise vaate järgi esitab sõna "sidrun" tähenduse omaduste konjunktsioon. Iga omaduse puhul on väide, et sidrunil on see omadus, analüütiline tõde. Ja ka väide, et iga asi, millel on kõik need omadused, on sidrun, on analüütiline tõde. Aga "sidruni" puhul kehtib see tegelikult ainult juhul, kui meil on üksainus analüüsimatu omadus olla sidrun. Millegi paigutamine loomuliku liigi alla ei ole lihtsalt sellele omaduste konjunktsiooni omistamine. Sidrunit ei saa defineerida kui seda, millel on kollane värvus, hapu maitse jne.

Teine ja kolmas lause illustreerivad, aga ühtlasi avavad esimese tähendust. Kui eeldada, et esimese tähendus on niigi arusaadav, siis võib mõlemad või ühe neist ära jätta. Ka viimase lause võib ära jätta, sest ta lihtsalt illustreerib/avab eelviimast lauset. Ma ei ole kindel, kas niimoodi oleks arusaadav. Andres (arutelu) 12. detsember 2014, kell 11:39 (EET)

Is the first sentence correct? The article seems to have been published first in Metaphilosophy, see https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9973.1970.tb00602.x (sorry, I do not speak Estonian). — Fnielsen (arutelu) 18. jaanuar 2017, kell 12:26 (EET)

Thank you! You might be right, I'll find out. Andres (arutelu) 18. jaanuar 2017, kell 15:11 (EET)

It seems so, I changed the article. Andres (arutelu) 18. jaanuar 2017, kell 16:53 (EET)

Käesolevale artiklile viidati konverentsiettekandes: Finn Årup Nielsen, Daniel Mietchen, Egon Willighagen, "Scholia, Scientometrics and Wikidata", European Semantic Web Conference 2017: The Semantic Web, veebis al. 08.11.2017. Loetav Springeri lehel veebis ja PDFina (viide PDFis lk 238). Autorite sõnul on see üks harvadest juhtudest, kus teadusartiklil on oma vikiartikkel, samas kui enam-vähem igal teadusartiklil võib olla oma Wikidata kirje. --Oop (arutelu) 12. november 2017, kell 16:43 (EET)


Arutelu:Läänemeresoome algkeel

Artiklist Lepalind (folkloor) tuleb siia link läänemeresoome, mis võiks vist suunata siia algkeele artiklisse. Kui suunata, siis tuleb mõelda, kuidas seal sõna "läänemeresoome" linkida (nt läänemeresoome sõnatüved)--Bioneer1 (arutelu) 13. detsember 2014, kell 19:13 (EET)

Esiteks, see, et Läänemeresoome algkeelt kõneleti 3000-4000 aastat tagasi tundub mulle väga imelikuna. Viiteid ka pole. Näitena võib tuua algindoeuroopa keele, mida on kõvasti rohkem uuritud, kui uurali keeli. Ja selle kohta õeldakse, et seda kõneleti umbes 5500 aastat tagasi. Algindoeuroopa keelest ei saa tänapäeval tavaline inimene, kes kõneleb indoeuroopa keelt, absoluutselt mitte midagi aru, kuid läänemeresoome algkeelest saab üsna hästi aru (eriti kui osatakse soome ja eesti keelt mõlemat). Minul mingeid tõendeid ei ole, aga sellel väitel, mis artiklis on, kah pole. Lühidalt, see tuleks üle vaadata.
Ma leidsin teisest artiklist midagi muud: läänemeresoome algkeelt kõneleti väidetavalt 500-2500 aastat tagasi. Kuid nendel väidetel puuduvad kah viited.
Teiseks, nostraatiliste keelte teooriat toetavad ainult väike hulk keeleteadlasi; minu arvates pole mõtet mingeid suvalisi ja ebaolulisi teooriaid mainida.Strombones (arutelu) 18. juuli 2016, kell 14:29 (EEST)

see 3-4 tuhat aastat on kuugeldades leitav siit ntx LK 2(41)

suwa 18. juuli 2016, kell 14:40 (EEST)

: Tänud, kuid mulle tundub ikkagi see veidi kahtlane.Strombones (arutelu) 18. juuli 2016, kell 14:43 (EEST)
Nostraatiliste keelte hüpotees on minu meelest siiski täiesti tuntud, aga siin ei ole minu meelest tõesti kohane seda mainida, pealegi ebakorrektses sõnastuses. Se peaks olema uurali keelte juures. Andres (arutelu) 18. juuli 2016, kell 15:09 (EEST)
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"Läänemeresoome algkeelt kõneldi umbes 4000–3000 aastat tagasi." Uuematel andmetel hilisemal ajal. Velirand (arutelu) 19. september 2018, kell 09:45 (EEST)

Kirjalike mälestisteta algkeelevormide absoluutne dateerimine (st konkreetsete aastaarvudega, vastandatuna suhtelisele, võrrelduna teiste (alg)keelevormidega, mida saab keeleaine põhjal nimetada suhteliselt varasemateks või hilisemateks) on puhtalt keeleteaduse perspektiivist mõne puristi arvates üldse kahtlane tegevus. Teooriaid on olnud erinevaid ja tuleb ilmselt veel. Arheoloogilised leiud ega geenid ei kõnele ühtki keelt, nii et kindlat tõestust on raske leida, variatsioon teooriate vahel on suur ja neid põhjendavad arutluskäigud on paratamatult väga erinevad. Arvan, et siin tuleks teooriate autoritele võimalikult täpselt viidates võimalikult suur hulk avaldatud akadeemilisi teooriaid refereerida (koos teooriaid põhjendavate arutluskäikudega), keskendudes eelisjärjekorras neile, millel on olnud teadlaste hulgas suurem toetajaskond. -- Ohpuu (arutelu) 19. september 2018, kell 14:23 (EEST)

Artikkel kõneleb läänemeresoome algkeele kolmest etapist, aga link soomekeelsele artiklile viib hoopis kolmandale, hilisläänemeresoome algkeele artiklile. Samal ajal on soomekeelne artikkel "Kantasuomi" eestikeelse artiklita.--Eluonilus (arutelu) 17. aprill 2021, kell 15:30 (EEST)

Inglisekeelne vaste paistab samas sobivat. Praegune soome vaste tuleks siis vist lahti haakida ja asendada "kantasuomiga". --Minnekon (arutelu) 17. aprill 2021, kell 19:36 (EEST)


Seda artiklit on raske leida. Andres (arutelu) 15. detsember 2014, kell 14:27 (EET)
Kas viimane parandus on õige? Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2015, kell 15:48 (EEST)
Praegu on ju tegemist fiktiivse rajatisega, mis on jutus jutustatud ja laulustki lauldud (JMKE "Eesti-Soome toru"), aga päriselus olemas ei ole. Seega "Kategooria:Väljamõeldud ehitis". Mis sellele Andresele jälle ei meeldi? --85.253.64.147 27. detsember 2017, kell 03:00 (EET)

Kategooria on mõeldud kirjandus- vms teostes esinevaid fiktsionaalsete ehitiste jaoks. Andres (arutelu) 27. detsember 2017, kell 15:02 (EET)

:Ei kavand ega teostamata kavand pole fiktsioonid, kui pole just kindlaid tõendeid, et tegemist on ainult ja üksnes petuskeemiga ja mõtte autorid pole kunagi seda realiseerida tahtnud. Isegi Lõunamere kompanii puhul ei saa ettevõtet fiktiivseks nimetada, sest neil jõudsid ka reaalselt kolm-neli kaubalaeva oma lastiga kuhugi sadamasse, olgugi et see tõi kaasa üksnes kahjumit. - Melilac (arutelu) 25. jaanuar 2019, kell 17:55 (EET)
See artikkel räägib olematust asjast (luuludest), sisaldades oma väikse mahu juures mitmeid valesid. Mõistlik oleks see üldse maha kustutada. --80.235.107.168 6. detsember 2018, kell 02:07 (EET)

Artikkel ei pea olema reaalselt eksisteerivast asjast. - Neptuunium ❯❯❯ arutelu 6. detsember 2018, kell 13:12 (EET)

:Valed andmed saab allikatele viidates parandada. Mis on valesti? Ei poolda kustutamist. Niisuguse loogika järgi tuleks kustutada kõik interviki 16 selleteemalist artiklit. Ursus scribens (arutelu) 6. detsember 2018, kell 14:14 (EET)

::Praktilisellt kõik on valesti. Kui Wikipeediasse ei kõlvanud ohtralt viidetega varustatud artikkel "Elektrooilise hääletamise kriitika", siis see artikkel ammugi ei tohiks siin eksisteerida. Täiesti erapoolik ja valeväidetest kubisev tekst!--80.235.107.168 6. detsember 2018, kell 19:11 (EET)

::Ära pööra tähelepanu, see anonüüm jaurabki kõikjal täiesti seosetult. Sirvi natuke ta varasemaid sõnavõtte ja autori määratleb enda tõsiseltvõetavuse ise. --Ehitaja (arutelu) 15. detsember 2018, kell 13:52 (EET)

::: Kaasautorite halvustamine peaks siin olema reeglitevastane.--80.235.107.168 16. detsember 2018, kell 15:43 (EET)

Eesti viki teema pole tunneli lähtumine Helsingist, Eesti poolt lähtub tunnel ikka Tallinnast. Samuti kui meil on Tallinna-Helsingi ja Tallinna-Stockholmi laevaliin. Mis siis, kui soome ja rootsi viki poolt vaadates oleks vastupidi. Ssgreporter (arutelu) 8. detsember 2018, kell 00:43 (EET)

Mulle tundub, et selle tunneli tõeline tähtsus ja tähendus ilmnebki Soome poolt vaadatuna. See ei ole kõigest kaht linna, Tallinna ja Helsingit ühendav raudteetunnel, vaid Soome raudteevõrku tulevase Rail Balticu kaudu Kesk-Euroopa raudteevõrguga ühendav tunnel. Soomlased on sellele vastavalt ka suuremat huvi ilmutanud. Ursus scribens (arutelu) 8. detsember 2018, kell 02:31 (EET)

:See ei puutu asjasse. Tallinna-Stockholmi liini alustas samuti Rootsi laev, aga sellegipoolest oli see siitpoolt, s.t Eestist vaadates Tallinna-Stockholmi liin. Eesti vikis on tähtsam, mis siinpool lahte. See ei sega meid kirjeldamast, mis sealpool sünnib ja mis seal oluline on. Ssgreporter (arutelu) 9. detsember 2018, kell 01:09 (EET)

:: parandasin. suwa 9. detsember 2018, kell 12:29 (EET)

Soome raudteevõrk on osa Euroopa raudteevõrgust ja see on Euroopa ülejäänud raudteevõrguga juba ammu ühendatud, seega ei saa see hüpoteetiline tunnel, mida tõenäoliselt lähima 100 aasta jooksul ei tule, Soome raudteevõrku Euroopa omaga ühendama hakata. See paaniliselt kaitstav ühendamise väide artiklis on otsene valetamine. --80.235.107.168 16. detsember 2018, kell 19:00 (EET)

Siis sõnastust täpsustada. Andres (arutelu) 17. detsember 2018, kell 12:12 (EET)

:Sõnastusega on kõik korras. Jutt on Soome raudteevõrgu ühendamisest tulevase Rail Balticu kaudu Baltimaade ja sealt edasi Kesk-Euroopa raudteevõrguga. Artiklis polegi väidetud, et Soome raudteevõrk ei ole Euroopa raudteevõrguga ühendatud. Kuid sel puudub strateegilise tähtsusega otseühendus Baltimaade raudteevõrguga. Ursus scribens (arutelu) 17. detsember 2018, kell 12:58 (EET)

::Kas mõni autoriteetne allikas ka selle "strateegilise otseühenduse" kohta on? Või on tegemist originaaluurimusega?--91.129.106.99 18. detsember 2018, kell 18:23 (EET)

:::Siinsamas välislinkide all Paul Goble'i intervjuu YLE-le.:) Ursus scribens (arutelu) 19. detsember 2018, kell 09:53 (EET)

::::Mis raudtee-ekspert see Paul Goble ka on? Tausta poolest pigem propagandasõdur. --91.129.106.99 24. detsember 2018, kell 07:31 (EET)

:::::Paul Goble on geopoliitika ekspert. 2001:7D0:87CA:9180:2D09:4F2C:8A8F:923 24. detsember 2018, kell 15:26 (EET)

::::::No ma ju seda kirjutasingi. Nagu sõdurid jagunevad kitsama spetsialiseerumise järgi kuulipilduriteks, sapöörideks, luurajateks jne, jagunevad propagandasõdurid geopoliitika ekspertideks, sotsiaalteadlasteks, jne--91.129.106.99 25. detsember 2018, kell 08:52 (EET)

Soome raudteevõrgu Euroopa raudteevõrguga ühendamisest

https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arutelu:Tallinna ja Helsingi vaheline tunnel


Arutelu:3. märts

Siin on aastaarv vale, peab olema 1990, mitte 1991 !!! Ma loodan, et see on kogemata valesti. "1991 – toimus iseseisvusreferendum. Referendumil osales 82,86% valimisõiguslikest kodanikest. 77,83% hääletanutest oli Eesti Vabariigi riikliku iseseisvuse ja sõltumatuse taastamise poolt."

Eesti iseseisvusreferendum toimus 3. märtsil 1991. Kõik on õigesti. Velirand (arutelu) 16. detsember 2014, kell 13:22 (EET)
1940 – Tartus ja Viljandis toimusid 1937. aasta Eesti meistrivõistlused Kreeka-Rooma maadluses[2]. ?

* 1808 – Prantsuse väed Joachim Murat' juhtimisel vallutasid Madridi
--WikedKentaur (arutelu) 1. märts 2020, kell 09:44 (EET)