Vikipeedia arutelu:Saatkond/Arhiiv 1

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Que tal. Les escribo porque soy redactor del artículo Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata en la Wiki en español (donde es destacado), portugues (en vías de ser destacado), inglés (a punto de ser artículo bueno), simple english (propuesto a destacado) y ayudo en francés e italiano. El motivo de este mensaje es para saber si alguien podría ayudarme a redactar aunque sea algo mínimo en esta wikipedia. Bueno, no molesto más. Saludos a todos. --Elnegrojose 1. juuli 2008, kell 02:35 (UTC)

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Done. --Jaan513 5. august 2008, kell 08:10 (UTC)

Hello,
I am Irina Walter from Austria, interested in literature and working on a project to translate the article about Austrian writer K. Ebner into other Wikipedia languages. Thus I would like to have this article also translated into the Estonian language, be it in its original length or in a shortened summary layout. This section is my wish/request (I hope it is the right place). Source texts are available in different languages, here are the most important:
*Klaus Ebner in English
*Klaus Ebner auf Deutsch
*Klaus Ebner en français
*Klaus Ebner en español
If you have further questions, please don't hestitate to contact me on my English or German user page. Thank you very much for your endeavors!
Irina Walter, from Baden, Austria, Europe. --62.47.134.231 11. november 2008, kell 21:05 (UTC)

Translation Request of article about Austrian writer Klaus Ebner

Hi. Can somebody write an (at least ;] ) short stub about my city (Racibórz) on Estonian Wikipedia? Many thanks for anyone who could do that :) Olos88 22. juuli 2009, kell 04:32 (UTC)

Done. Andres 22. juuli 2009, kell 06:53 (UTC)

Hello, there's a discussion on the correct translation for this airport at Finnish Wikipedia. If someone who understands Finnish could leave a message it would be appreciated. --Jisis 17. oktoober 2009, kell 16:59 (UTC)

I tried to answer but there might be some different opinions. Ave Maria 17. oktoober 2009, kell 17:48 (UTC)

:Andres vastas ka, teise lähenemisega, kuid sama tulemusega. Ave Maria 17. oktoober 2009, kell 17:52 (UTC)

Hello to evreybody,
I need a little help by translation. Can you please translate the next text into your language and put it here?:
Text (original - Serbian cyrillic):
* Уколико желите да пронађете кориснике који причају естонски, претражите :Категорија:Корисник et. За остале језике, проверите :Категорија:Језичке кутијице.
* Уколико сте регистрован корисник на Српској Википедији а не разумете српски, молимо вас додајте  на вашу корисничку страницу. Ова порука гласи - на српском - да не разумете српски језик, тако да ће остали корисници бити обавештени о томе.
Text (original - Serbian latin):
* Ukoliko želite da pronađete korisnike koji pričaju estonski, pretražite :Категорија:Корисник et. Za ostale jezike, proverite :Категорија:Језичке кутијице.
* Ukoliko ste registrovan korisnik na Srpskoj Vikipediji, a ne razumete srpski, molimo vas dodajte  na vašu korisničku stranicu. Ova poruka glasi - na srpskom - da ne razumete srpski jezik, tako da će ostali korisnici biti obavešteni o tome.
Text (version on English):
* If you want to find people who can speak Estonian, browse :Категорија:Корисник et. For other languages, check out :Категорија:Језичке кутијице.
* If you are a registered user in Serbian Wikipedia but do not understand Serbian, please add  to your user page. This message says - in Serbian - that you do not understand Serbian, so the other users will be informed.
Thanks and regards,
--FriedrickMILBarbarossa • talk • 18. oktoober 2009, kell 19:37 (UTC)
Teen siis algust.
Eestikeelne tekst:
* Kui soovid leida inimesi, kes räägivad eesti keelt, vaata :Категорија:Корисник et. Teiste keelte kohta vaata :Категорија:Језичке кутијице.
* Kui oled serbiakeelses Vikipeedias kasutaja, kuid serbia keelt ei oska, siis palun lisa  oma kasutajalehele. See teade informeerib teisi kasutajaid serbia keeles, et Sa ei mõista serbia keelt.
Ave Maria 19. oktoober 2009, kell 18:44 (UTC)

Panin juba sinna tõlke. Andres 19. oktoober 2009, kell 19:20 (UTC)

The article :en:Andrus Rõuk has been nominated for deletion. A request was made to expand this article with text from Andrus Rõuk. Hopefully the article will not be deleted and if someone at the English Wikipedia will not make the edit(s) that someone here will. -- Allen4names 26. november 2009, kell 05:30 (UTC)

Concerning the English Wikipedia article "Andrus Rõuk" that has been nominated for AfD

hi, I think that following articles Sun StarOffice and Oracle Open Office should be merged, but I don't know where to ask for ? Pok148 31. oktoober 2010, kell 21:49 (EET)

Either articles Discussion (Arutelu) would be a good place to start.--Kyng 31. oktoober 2010, kell 22:24 (EET)

Hello,
I'm doing my project into language processing and I'm using Wikipedia. I want to use several languages in the tests, included the one of this version. And since I need some articles to analyze I wanted to ask for your help. Precisely, some keywords I will explain now.
Actually what I am looking for is a list in your language with the names of those territories which represents an entity of speakers (therefore possible wikipedia contributors) of your language, the name its people or gentilic, and the name of the language (if it is the same language and it has a different name). These territories must be in practice independent from each others or at least be considered so by the speakers. This is the case of colonies, excolonies, other countries which historically speak the same language or minorities attached into the country next to yours.
For example, a list in english something like. "english", "england", "irish", "ireland", "scottish", "scotland", "british", "united_kingdom", "american", "united_states", "canada", "canadian", "australia", "australian", "new_zealand", "new_zealander". Probably there are some others which are not very big but I don't know cuz I'm not familiar.
If you were so kind to produce me this list, I would so appreciate it! Thank you very much!
--Micrib 20. november 2010, kell 02:20 (EET)

Hi! I have a photo request for people in Tallinn. Would someone mind photographing:
* Estonian Air head office - Lennujaama tee 13 11101 Tallinn
Thank you
WhisperToMe 10. veebruar 2011, kell 05:44 (EET)

Hi everyone,I am Yosri from Malay Wikipedia. Recently I was informed by certain parties that MS Wiki need to delete any images tagged as Non-Commercial under  Foundation Licensing policy. After I have done some studies, I realised that Wikipedia Foundations is moving towards allowing commercialises all images, as such they are acting on behalf of commercial company to require all images loaded with tagging Non-Commercial in all Wiki Project to be removed, including those loaded in local Wiki. You are only allowed to licenses your images under "free content", which specifically allows commercial reuse, example GDLF 1.2. Certain images is exempted under a very narrow EDP ("exemption doctrine policy") definition. If you all already aware about this, please ignore this comment. Otherwise, for more details please visit http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikimedia_projects_still_using_non-commercial-only_images.3F  Yosri 2. märts 2011, kell 07:06 (EET)

Does anyone around here do article requests? If so,

en:Small Planet Airlines needs an Estonian page at Small Planet Airlines
The Estonian language website is at http://www.smallplanet.aero/ee/ so that can be used as a source
Also :en:EstDomains should have an article, at EstDomains
Estonia served as an observer state of the :en:Interstate Aviation Committee, so I would like to see an article in Estonian about that group too
Thanks,
WhisperToMe 25. august 2011, kell 22:35 (EEST)

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Greetings All; I am an administrator from the English Wikipedia and also the Commons. I ran a scan of all images here on the Estonian Wikipedia and I found at least 200 that have no licenses. I am wondering if you can speak to the users and add a license to the images. The list of images is at http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasutaja:Zscout370/Nolicense Zscout370 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 11:08 (EET)

GFDL is on 2008 05 11 Tallinnamadala tuletorn ja Tallink Star.jpg it is on Commons,

so please check your robot ? best :) suwa 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 13:10 (EET)

:The reason why bot listed this image is because you had categorized this Commons image in here. So this in not a bot malfunction but your own mistake. Ivo 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 13:34 (EET)

::Strange.  is clearly named as CC2.5,  is GDFL 1.2 & CC-SA 3.0, and  has come from Flickr and even confirmed by an image reviewer. I would have thought a bot would recognize these. I can understand that it won't understand the author's (evidently and unfortunately not OTRS-processed) permit from  nor the public domain declaration from , as those are in Estonian. Evidently, we should notify the authors and uploaders to categorize images properly and translate the according messages. --Oop 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 14:44 (EET)

::: As Ivo said, it's due to local image page existing with no templates added. No worries, copyright info for these Commons images is sufficient. As for :Pilt:3 marka 1925 avers.jpg there is no valid license info (more about coins). I believe translating license tags in not required. 88.196.241.249 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 15:57 (EET)

::We should delete thous pages asap. Commons pictures should not be categorized here. Ivo 2. jaanuar 2012, kell 16:53 (EET)

:::The way that the images were checked is I did a scan of a database dump for the characters {{ that are used in templates, but only in the Files namespace. I did not tag any images for deletion, but just made a quick list for you all to look at. I speak no Estonian. Zscout370 7. jaanuar 2012, kell 20:05 (EET)

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Tooksin eraldi välja, et seal on ka mitu Eestis pärit pilti, mida toetada võiks.

Plants and fungi: :File:Tolmukapea.jpg

Constructions: :File:Keri majakas.jpg

Egas muud, kui andke oma panus :) Ivo (arutelu) 5. juuni 2012, kell 21:43 (EEST)

:Viimane võimalus, et eestlaste fotosid finaali aidata. Ära rohkem oota. Avalda toetust kohe!

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Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2012 Picture of the Year competition is now open.  We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2012. Voting is open to established Wikimedia users who meet the following criteria:

# Users must have an account, at any Wikimedia project, which was registered before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC].

# This user account must have more than 75 edits on any single Wikimedia project before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC]. Please check your account eligibility at the POTY 2012 Contest Eligibility tool.

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For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall will then make it to the final.  In the final round, when a limited number of images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the Picture of the Year.
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Hello! On behalf of Wikimedia Polska (WMPL), Wikimedia's local chapter in Poland, I would like to invite those active editors of this project, who wish to take part in Wikimania 2013 in Hongkong (August 7-11), to apply for WMPL's scholarship. It is WMPL's annual tradition that we fund scholarships for Wikimania not only for Polish editors, but also for a group of Wikimedians from other former Eastern Bloc states. The scholarship covers air travel, accomodation, insurance and conference fee. If you would like to learn more or ask any questions, please visit this site. Hope to see you there! Powerek38 (arutelu) 6. veebruar 2013, kell 00:43 (EET)

Wikimedia Polska scholarships for Wikimania 2013

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally.
Wikidata has been in development for a few months now. It is now time for the roll-out of the first part of it on your Wikipedia. Phase 1 is the support for the management of language links. It is already being used on the Hungarian, Hebrew, Italian and English Wikipedias. The next step is to enable the extension on all other Wikipedias. We have currently planned this for March 6.
=== What is Wikidata? ===
Wikidata is a central place to store data that you can usually find in infoboxes. Think of it as something like Wikimedia Commons but for data (like the number of inhabitants of a country or the length of a river) instead of multimedia. The first part of this project (centralizing language links) is being rolled out now. The more fancy things will follow later.
=== What is going to happen? ===
Language links in the sidebar are going to come from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.
=== Where can I find more information and ask questions? ===
Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
=== I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata ===
To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages. You can see previous editions here.
--Lydia Pintscher 21. veebruar 2013, kell 18:04 (EET)
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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) coming to this Wikipedia

Language links in the sidebar are going to come from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.

Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.

Where can I find more information and ask questions?

To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages. You can see previous editions here.
--Lydia Pintscher 21. veebruar 2013, kell 18:04 (EET)
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I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this locally. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on :de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
As I annonced 2 weeks ago, Wikidata phase 1 (language links) has been deployed here today. Language links in the sidebar are coming from Wikidata in addition to the ones in the wiki text. To edit them, scroll to the bottom of the language links, and click edit. You no longer need to maintain these links by hand in the wiki text of the article.
Where can I find more information and ask questions?
Editors on en:wp have created a great page with all the necessary information for editors and there is also an FAQ for this deployment. It'd be great if you could bring this to this wiki if that has not already happened. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata
To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
--Lydia Pintscher 7. märts 2013, kell 00:55 (EET)
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Wikidata phase 1 (language links) live on this Wikipedia

(Please consider translating this message for the benefit of your fellow Wikimedians)
Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.
If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.
If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.
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Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on :de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. It is soon time to enable the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) and things are looking good. The next step is English Wikipedia. This is planned for April 8. If everything works out fine we will deploy on all remaining Wikipedias on April 10. I will update this part of the FAQ if there are any issues forcing us to change this date. I will also sent another note to this village pump once the deployment is finished.
What will happen once we have phase 2 enabled here?
Once it is enabled in a few days you will be able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!)
How will this work?
There are two ways to access the data:
* Use a parser function like {{#property:p169}} in the wiki text of the article on Yahoo!. This will return “Marissa Mayer” as she is the chief executive officer of the company.
* For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.
We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:chief executive officer}} instead of {{#property:p169}}. The complete plan for this is here.
Where can I test this?
You can already test it on test2.
Where can I find more information and ask questions?
We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata
To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
--Lydia Pintscher 5. aprill 2013, kell 19:50 (EEST)
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Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) coming to this Wikipedia

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Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。
Hello!
There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.
We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.
All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.
Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 24. aprill 2013, kell 07:35 (EEST)

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[[m:Requests for comment/Activity levels of advanced administrative rights holders|Request for comment on inactive administrators]]

Sorry for writing in English. I hope someone can translate this. If you understand German better than English you can have a look at the announcement on :de:Wikipedia:Kurier.
A while ago the first phase of Wikidata was enabled on this Wikipedia. This means you are getting the language links in each article from Wikidata. We have now enabled the second phase of Wikidata (infoboxes) here. We have already done this on the [first 11 Wikipedias] (it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh) a month ago and two days ago on the English Wikipedia. Today all the remaining Wikipedias followed.
What does having phase 2 enabled here mean?
You are now able to make use of the structured data that is available on Wikidata in your articles/infoboxes. It includes things like the symbol for a chemical element, the ISBN for a book or the top level domain of a country. (None of this will happen automatically. Someone will have to change the article or infobox template for this to happen!) The current state is just the beginning though. It will be extended based on feedback we get from you now.
How will this work?
There are two ways to access the data:
* Use a parser function like {{#property:p159}} in the wiki text of the article on Wikimedia Foundation. This will return “San Francisco” as that is the headquarter location of the non-profit.
* For more complicated things you can use Lua. The documentation for this is here.
We are working on expanding the parser function so you can for example use {{#property:headquarter location}} instead of {{#property:p159}}. The complete plan for this is here.
Where can I test this?
You can test it on test2 if you don't want to do it in an article here.
Where can I find more information and ask questions?
We have collected the main questions in an FAQ for this deployment. Please ask questions you might have on the FAQ’s discussion page.
I want to be kept up to date about Wikidata
To stay up-to-date on everything happening around Wikidata please subscribe to the newsletter that is delivered weekly to subscribed user’s talk pages.
We are excited about taking yet another step towards allowing all Wikipedias share structured data and collect and curate it together.
--Lydia Pintscher 24. aprill 2013, kell 22:06 (EEST)
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Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.
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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.
Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.
Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.
Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.
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Latest Tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes.
;Recent software changes: (Not all changes will affect you.)
* The latest version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf4) was added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and to the English Wikipedia (with a Wikidata software update) on May 20. It will be updated on all other Wikipedia sites on May 22.
* A software update will perhaps result in temporary issues with images. Please report any problems you notice.
* MediaWiki recognizes links in twelve new schemes. Users can now link to SSH, XMPP and Bitcoin directly from wikicode.
* VisualEditor was added to all content namespaces on mediawiki.org on May 20.
* A new extension ("TemplateData") was added to all Wikipedia sites on May 20. It will allow a future version of VisualEditor to edit templates.
* New sites: Greek Wikivoyage and Venetian Wiktionary joined the Wikimedia family last week; the total number of project wikis is now 794.
* The logo of 18 Wikipedias was changed to version 2.0 in a third group of updates.
* The UploadWizard on Commons now shows links to the old upload form in 55 languages (bug 33513).
;Future software changes:
* The next version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf5) will be added to Wikimedia sites starting on May 27.
* An updated version of Notifications, with new features and fewer bugs, will be added to the English Wikipedia on May 23.
* The final version of the "single user login" (which allows people to use the same username on different Wikimedia wikis) is moved to August 2013. The software will automatically rename some usernames.
* A new discussion system for MediaWiki, called "Flow", is under development. Wikimedia designers need your help to inform other users, test the prototype and discuss the interface. .
* The Wikimedia Foundation is hiring people to act as links between software developers and users for VisualEditor.
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The Wikipedia Library gets Wikipedia editors free access to reliable sources that are behind paywalls.  I want to alert you to our latest donation.
*Cochrane Collaboration is an independent medical nonprofit organization that conducts systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials of health-care interventions, which it then publishes in the Cochrane Library.
*Cochrane has generously agreed to give free, full-access accounts to medical editors.  Individual access would otherwise cost between $300 and $800 per account.
*If you are active as a medical editor, come and sign up :)
Cheers, Ocaasi 17. juuni 2013, kell 00:02 (EEST)

Free Research Accounts from Leading Medical Publisher.  Come and Sign up!

My apologies for the incorrect link:  You can sign up for Cochrane Collaboration accounts at the COCHRANE sign-up page. Cheers, Ocaasi 17. juuni 2013, kell 00:37 (EEST)

(Sorry for writing in English. You can translate the proposal.)
Should X!'s edit counter retain the opt-in requirement? Your input is strongly encouraged. Voice your input here.—cyberpower ChatAutomation 23. juuni 2013, kell 07:23 (EEST)

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Hi. Is it possible to take over the user Kasutaja:Hanno? Hanno is my global user name. However, in et, Kasutaja:Hanno had been taken before I registered the global account. The local user has made one edit in 2006 and been inactive since. Could you rename the current local user, and then attach Kasutaja:Hanno to my global user, so that the latter can be become universal? That would be great indeed, 83.108.143.53 28. juuni 2013, kell 23:14 (EEST)

I sent a request to Hanno. Andres (arutelu) 29. juuni 2013, kell 21:42 (EEST)

On July 9, 2013, Universal Language Selector (ULS) will be enabled on this wiki. The ULS provides a flexible way to configure and deliver language settings like interface language, fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). Making it available here is the last phase of making ULS available on all Wikimedia wikis.
Please read the announcement on Meta-Wiki for more information. Siebrand 4. juuli 2013, kell 15:23 (EEST) (via Global message delivery).

Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09

<inglise> Hi, I have translated an English book list into 40 languages:

en:Le Monde's 100 Books of the Century
I have now compiled a version in Estonian.
What would be a good title for the page?
(Le Monde is the newspaper in Paris.)
Thanks, Varlaam (arutelu) 17. juuli 2013, kell 06:02 (EEST)

Le Monde sajandi 100 raamatut I quess. --Kyng (arutelu) 17. juuli 2013, kell 07:21 (EEST)

: Le Monde'i sajandi 100 raamatut.--Morel (arutelu) 17. juuli 2013, kell 11:24 (EEST)

::Wow. I don't usually get 2 answers. And so fast! Amazing.

::In one language, it took 1 year to get an answer to this question.

::I assume Le Monde'i is a possessive form?

::I will use a possessive form.

::Thanks, Varlaam (arutelu) 17. juuli 2013, kell 19:21 (EEST)

:::Hello again. Sorry for the delay in returning to you.

:::Here is the top of the list.
Arv	Nimi ?               	Autor        	Aasta
1  	Võõras               	Albert Camus 	1942
2  	Kaotatud aega otsimas	Marcel Proust	1913-1927

:::Did I find the correct word for "book title"? Nimi?

:::Varlaam (arutelu) 23. juuli 2013, kell 22:57 (EEST)

:::: "Pealkiri" .--Kyng (arutelu) 23. juuli 2013, kell 23:07 (EEST)

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this.
Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 23. juuli 2013, kell 16:09 (EEST)

Hi! I'm going through different wikis that use images of Finnish unofficial coats of arms, such as :Pilt:Koijarvi.jpg. As the images are non-free (only official coats of arms fall under PD in Finland), they will have to be deleted from Commons, but before that I'm trying to make sure that local versions are reuploaded to the projects that allow fair use. The question is, are images of non-free coats of arms allowed on et.wp? If yes, what license template can I use for such cases?  isn't quite accurate but I haven't found a template specifically made for this purpose either. Thanks, Jafeluv (arutelu) 28. juuli 2013, kell 18:48 (EEST)

It is difficult to answer, because I do not know, why these coats of arms will be deleted, and I am not sure, that they will be deleted at all. For example, Pilt:Koijarvi.jpg is not presented for deletion. Who has copyright of unofficial coats of arms? If the coat of arms is copyrighted by municipality, maybe this means, that this coat of arms is official? For example, copyright of Pilt:Koijarvi.jpg is claimed by uploader. I am not sure, that this is false claim. Taivo 2. august 2013, kell 18:08 (EEST)

Fair use is prohibited in Estonian wiki. Local copies of files are allowed. I do not know, what kind of license should be used. The template "Logo" is not quite correct, but you can use that nevertheless. Taivo 2. august 2013, kell 18:08 (EEST)

:The coat of arms was designed by A. W. Rancken (1880–1954) and by default copyrighted for 70 years post mortem auctoris (i.e. until January 2025). It does not fall under the PD exemption () since it was never made official. The uploader cannot claim copyright since, according to the Finnish Copyright Council , making a drawing based on an existing coat of arms description does not create a new copyright for the person making the drawing.

:In any case, I think the question is moot since et.wp does not allow fair use... I was thinking  would work like in fi.wp (where it is a fair use template), but apparently it only depicts that the image is protected by trademark and copyright has to be indicated separately? (At least that's the impression I get from the (R) symbol and after checking a few of the places where it's used, e.g. Soome SDP logo.jpg.)

:I'll propose the file for deletion in Commons shortly. I simply wanted to make sure every project that allows the use of non-free coats of arms has the chance to take them into use locally before they're deleted. Thanks for your helpful answers, Taivo. Jafeluv (arutelu) 3. august 2013, kell 00:49 (EEST)

Greetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.
If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to https@wikimedia.org.
Greg Grossmeier (via the Global message delivery system). 20. august 2013, kell 22:01 (EEST) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

I want to create Minu väike poni: Sõprus on imeline article but I can't speak Estonian. So I need your help.
Here goes mine. The corrensponding article in English Wikipedia is My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic:

Minu väike poni: Sõprus on imeline (My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic) is an animated television series created by Hasbro Studios in the United States and produced by DHX Media's animation production unit in Vancouver, Canada (credited as DHX Media/Vancouver from season 2 episode 3, previously known as Studio B Productions). The series is associated with Hasbro's 2010 relaunch of Minu väike poni (My Little Pony) toy line, which also bears Friendship Is Magic subtitle in later releases.

In the United States, it is broadcast on Hasbro and Discovery Communications' Hub Network (formerly known as The Hub), premiering there on the channel's launch date 10 October, 2010 as a preview. In Estonia, it is broadcast on TV3.

;Estonian version

The Estonian version, premiered on (when?) on TV3, is narrated by (who?) and produced by (what company?).

Before the official Estonian broadcast, a promotional DVD of season 1 episode 3, which contains Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian and Russian audio tracks, was distributed in Estonia. All of the dubbed versions in the DVD, including Estonian version, is different from later official broadcast versions in corresponding countries. The Estonian dub in this DVD is the only Estonian version of Friendship Is Magic which has different dubbing style from the usual Estonian dubbed series.
222.233.145.130 14. september 2013, kell 15:46 (EEST)

First, I’d like to apologize for the English. If you can, please help to translate this for other members of your community.
The legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation would greatly appreciate your input on the best way to manage the "community logo" (pictured here) to best balance protection of the projects with community support. Accordingly, they have created a “request for consultation” on Meta where they set out briefly some of the issues to be considered and the options that they perceive. Your input would be invaluable in helping guide them in how best to serve our mission.
Thank you! --Mdennis (talk) (via the Global message delivery system). 24. september 2013, kell 05:22 (EEST) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

[[:m:Community Logo/Request for consultation|Request for consultation on community logo]]

Hi, there is an affair nowadays in Czechia about the expression metelesku blesku, what's a quote from a Czech movie. One of the political parties used it in their campaign song (you can hear it here: http://zpravy.idnes.cz/bobosikova-tvrdi-ze-spojeni-metelesku-blesku-je-z-estonstiny-puy-/domaci.aspx?c=A131004_165628_domaci_cen) and claims that it's not from the movie (Marečku, podejte mi pero!), but from Estonian (with -m at the end of the first word: meteleskum blesku), what's funny. The question is:

1) what does it really mean in Estonian (according to Google Translate it should be "membership level") and

2) is it normal Estonian?

3) Estonian is an agglutinative language - which transformations for example are with this expression possible - is there something interesting (like if this is nominative, how would be an another case or something like that) (in Turkish there is even a funny example: "hit" means hit (song), but hits are "hitler"... :) ).
Thank you very much! --Jiří Janíček (arutelu) 7. oktoober 2013, kell 13:44 (EEST)

I don't recognize it as Estonian at all, not even close to something familiar. And those words (or anything similar) aren't in Estonian dictionaries. So, as it is not Estonian, it has no meaning at all in Estonian language. The second word starts with "b" wich is very uncommon for a estonian word and to my knowledge happens only when a word is borrowed from foreign language.--Kyng (arutelu) 7. oktoober 2013, kell 14:08 (EEST)

: Thank you for the answer! Anyway it might be quite deceptive to judge if there is or is not a word in a language just by a opinion of one person, even if it would be a professor (that taught me professor Newerkla from Vienna, that's why I must say i would love the opinion of more than one speaker anyway ;) If the dictionaries are online, could you link on them, please? Though it is quite probable that GT translates it so just because some supporters of the party (called Hlavu vzhůru!, English maybe Cheer up!) inserted this translation into GT enough times, I want to be so sure as possible. Thank you (all :) ), --Jiří Janíček (arutelu) 7. oktoober 2013, kell 21:23 (EEST)

::Well, it doesn't sound like Estonian at all. Not even close. Nor I have any idea what that should mean.

::"Membership" is "liikmelisus, liikmeksolek" and "level" is "tase, tasand; kiht". So I can't understand how does Google Translate come up with that. Ivo (arutelu) 7. oktoober 2013, kell 21:42 (EEST)

::: If you but it in GT and let it detect language, it thinks it's Norweigan but dosn't translate it anything reasonable (and puting to much trust in GT is unreasonable as well). Eesti õigekeelsussõnaraamat ÕS 2006, "Eesti keele seletav sõnaraamat", dictionaris by The Institute of the Estonian Language.--Kyng (arutelu) 8. oktoober 2013, kell 09:43 (EEST)

Hi all,
Please join the consultation about the Community logo that represents Meta-Wiki: :m:Community Logo/Request for consultation.
This community consultation was commenced on September 24. The following day, two individuals filed a legal opposition against the registration of the Community logo.
The question is whether the Wikimedia Foundation should seek a collective membership mark with respect to this logo or abandon its registration and protection of the trademark.
We want to make sure that everyone get a chance to speak up so that we can get clear direction from the community.  We would therefore really appreciate the community's help in translating this announcement from English so that everyone is able to understand it.
Thanks,
Geoff & Yana 8. oktoober 2013, kell 23:02 (EEST)

Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.

(Apologies for writing in English. Please translate if necessary)
We would like to let you know about Beta Features, a new program from the Wikimedia Foundation that lets you try out new features before they are released for everyone.
Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help improve them. This special preference page lets designers and engineers experiment with new features on a broad scale, but in a way that's not disruptive.
Beta Features is now ready for testing on MediaWiki.org. It will also be released on Wikimedia Commons and MetaWiki this Thursday, 7 November. Based on test results, the plan is to release it on all wikis worldwide on 21 November, 2013.
Here are the first features you can test this week:
* Media Viewer — view images in large size or full screen
* VisualEditor Formulæ (for wikis with VisualEditor) — edit algebra or equations on your pages
* Typography Refresh —  make text more readable (coming Thursday)
Would you like to try out Beta Features now? After you log in on MediaWiki.org, a small 'Beta' link will appear next to your 'Preferences'. Click on it to see features you can test, check the ones you want, then click 'Save'. Learn more on the Beta Features page.
After you've tested Beta Features, please let the developers know what you think on this discussion page -- or report any bugs here on Bugzilla. You're also welcome to join this IRC office hours chat on Friday, 8 November at 18:30 UTC.
Beta Features was developed by the Wikimedia Foundation's Design, Multimedia and VisualEditor teams. Along with other developers, they will be adding new features to this experimental program every few weeks. They are very grateful to all the community members who helped create this project — and look forward to many more productive collaborations in the future.
Enjoy, and don't forget to let developers know what you think!  Keegan (WMF) (talk) 5. november 2013, kell 21:50 (EET)

Distributed via Global message delivery (wrong page? Correct it here), 5. november 2013, kell 21:50 (EET)

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.
Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make  better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.
Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:
*Organizing social media for Chinese Wikipedia ($350 for materials)
*Improving gadgets for Visual Editor ($4500 for developers)
*Coordinating access to reliable sources for Wikipedians ($7500 for project management, consultants and materials)
*Building community and strategy for Wikisource (€10000 for organizing and travel)
Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!
Hope to have your participation,
--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual
Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 28. veebruar 2014, kell 21:44 (EET)

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing,  we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 13. märts 2014, kell 23:56 (EET)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment

Dear Colleagues, Wikimania 2014 kicks off in London, UK in just over three months. As in previous years, Wikimedia Polska, Wikimedia's local chapter from Poland, is going to fund four Wikimania scholarships for non-Polish Wikimedians from Central and Eastern Europe (including the Asian part of the former Soviet Union). Our scholarships cover flights, accommodation (without meals), insurance and conference fee. Deadline for scholarship applications is 13th of May (23:59 Warsaw time). For all the rules and for details on how to apply, please visit our wiki. On behalf of Wikimedia Polska's Scholarships Commission, Powerek38 (arutelu) 30. aprill 2014, kell 22:06 (EEST)

Wikimedia Polska scholarships for Wikimania 2014

Me ei ole üldse arutanud vikilinkide järjekorda. Õigupoolest on see suhteliselt ükskõik, aga käsitsi on väga keeruline järjestada teisiti kui lühendite järgi. Inglise vikis järjestatakse nimekujude järgi, ja see on sealt üle tulnud, sest ma kopeerime sageli sealt. Andres 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jah me ei ole arutanud seda, kuid panin selle järjekorra sellepärast et enamus lehtedel on hetkel nii ja seni kuni see järjestamise kohta ei ole otsust on parem neid mitte hakata muutma. Mõned kasutajad on tulnud ja oma skriptidega muutnud ja sellest tuleb rohkem segadust.

Kuna enamasti saab neid vikilinke kopeeritud inglise vikist, siis arvan et võiksime jätkata seda sorteerimis järjestust. Pooldan seda ka sellepärast et tähestiku järjekorras sorteeritult on neid lihtsam lugeda. See on tegelikult esmane põhjus. Ja on suurim tõenäosus et just inglise wikisse lisatakse link teiste keelte vikidesse, kui mõne teise keele (saksa näiteks) vikisse.

Nimekujude järgi järjestamiseks on ka olemas abivahendeid. --TarmoK 06:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I am w:nl:gebruiker:Walter of the dutch Wikipedia. I am writing you because your are listed as ambassador of your wiki. I have something to say that I think you will find useful and possibly others of your wiki also.
You know it is not easy for the members of a local wiki to be informed about what is going on in the higher levels of the Wikimedia family. This because of the language problem and the high level of fragmentation of places where you can find information.
I am now making a weekly news letter (Wikizine) that attempts to provide the news of the Wikimedia projects. The concept is to list only a very short description of the news an give the relevant url to the subject. I want it to be short, only give the news that is important for all projects. The target audience include the ambassadors. It is for people who are interested in what it going on outside there own wiki. I emphasize on the news that is practical-technical. The information comes form several "news"-pages on several wikis, the mailinglists and IRC. There will be news I can not discover. If you have news found somewhere or from you own wiki please let my know. wikizine AT wikipedia.be
I can only create one version in something that supposed to be English. I count on the readers to inform there local wiki about the news in there own language.
Wikizine is send by use of the mailinglist Announce-l. It is only used for this. So people can subscribe without being swamped by emails like the lists.
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
I hope that you and others of your wiki will subscribe to Wikizine and give feedback. So that Wikizine can become really a source where Wikimedians can find out what is going on. Greetings, w:nl:gebruiker:Walter PS: do not repond here. I will not see it.

I created the English and Finnish Click OK articles. I'm having trouble in finding information about the group from English and Finnish sources. I was hoping that some one could create a Click OK article in Estonian language. It is an Estonian group and an article in their native language might lead to further growth of the article. Thank you. --Easyas12c

Hi, I am an editor on English WP, and I am currently working on many various articles for which I require photos from around the world. I am currently requiring photos from Estonia for these articles, and I was hoping that this message would reach a photographer who can take the photos for me. The photos I currently require are listed at :en:User:Russavia/Required_photos#.C2.A0Estonia. If any photographers can assist with this, I would be most appreciative. Please leave any comments or questions for me on my English WP talk page at :en:User_talk:Russavia as I am unlikely to read replies. Thanks in advance for any assistance which can be provided. Cheers,

Hi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)

Hi all,
The Wikimedia legal team invites you to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.
The current trademark policy was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks. We are now updating this policy to better balance permissive use of the marks with the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review here, and we encourage you to discuss it here.
We would appreciate if someone would translate this message into your language so more members of your community can contribute to the conversation.
Thanks,
Yana & Geoff

Call for comments on draft trademark policy

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:
* April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
* April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live
This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.
For more information:
* Summary of changes and FAQ
* Discussion page for feedback or questions
* Post on blog.wikimedia.org
-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Changes to the default site typography coming soon

:Please help translate this message in your language. Thanks :)
Hi, everybody. This is a reminder that we invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hours with James Forrester (Product Manager):
*Thursday, August 14, 9:00 UTC;
*Thursday, September 18, 16:00 UTC.
If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at mediawiki.org or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest, and to announce them through the VisualEditor global newsletter as well (please subscribe your talk page there to get the latest news about the software).
Most of the VisualEditor team will be at Wikimania in London in August! You'll be able to meet the developers during the Hackaton or at the following sessions:
*VisualEditor — helping users edit more easily, Saturday, August 9;
*VisualEditor — engineering against the odds, Sunday, August 10.
WMF community liaisons will share a booth with community advocates at the Community Village and look forward to talking to you there. Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 31. juuli 2014, kell 19:02 (EEST)

My apologies for writing in English. Please translate this message as needed for your community.
Greetings,
As you may know, we have been developing Media Viewer, a new tool for browsing multimedia content on Wikimedia sites. This tool has been tested extensively since November, as a beta feature. The Multimedia team is now ready to enable Media Viewer as the default experience for viewing images, and would like to release it here on Thursday, 24 April. If you have not tried Media Viewer yet, we encourage you to do so and to give us feedback, before we release it more widely.
Can you help prepare for a smooth release of Media Viewer in your community?
* We invite you to create a local page for Media Viewer, and copy over some of its demonstration galleries, and also to invite community members to try out the tool and share their feedback on that local discussion page.
*Make sure all of the interface is translated correctly.
*Translate and link to the Help page on mediawiki.org.
Thank you for your help! Please let me know if you have any questions that are not answered on the help page. We look forward to bringing a richer multimedia experience to your community! Keegan (WMF) (arutelu) 14. aprill 2014, kell 18:59 (EEST)
===Reminder===
Media Viewer will be enabled by default for all users on this wiki tommorrow, 24 April between 18:00-20:00 UTC (click here for timezone conversion). If you have not tried out Media Viewer yet you might want to try it out before tomorrow and leave feedback for us. Thank you. Keegan (WMF) (arutelu) 23. aprill 2014, kell 21:50 (EEST)

Media Viewer will be enabled by default for all users on this wiki tommorrow, 24 April between 18:00-20:00 UTC (click here for timezone conversion). If you have not tried out Media Viewer yet you might want to try it out before tomorrow and leave feedback for us. Thank you. Keegan (WMF) (arutelu) 23. aprill 2014, kell 21:50 (EEST)

Short medical translations
Wikiproject Medicine over at the English Wikipedia has been working hard since 2011 together with Translators Without Borders, in order to translate high quality medical content into over 100 different languages.
In 2014 we also started translating into a larger number of languages, as well as trying to get smaller simplified articles out there faster. The idea is to translate the lede or introduction,and any article that is translated has to be checked so that it is correct by at least one medical doctor.
Currently we need integrators and assistance in reaching out to see which articles should be translated, and which shouldn't.
If you want to help out and categorize articles as Do translate or Don't Translate head over to :
*WP:RTT simple.
To get involved check out:
* WP:MEDTRANS
or for the full list of articles translated see
*WP:RTT
* WP:RTT simple
Thanks from the Medical translation coordinator -- CFCF (arutelu) 21. juuli 2014, kell 15:46 (EEST)
Also, please spread, translate and copy this message to anyone you think will be interested in the project,as we need as much help as we can get!


Arutelu:Tsütokiinid

Kas definitsioon on võetud sõna-sõnalt "Meditsiinisõnastikust"? Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2014, kell 11:11 (EEST)

Tere Andres!

Kasutan vahel artikli pealkirjades "Meditsiinisõnastikus" trükitud eestikeelseid termineid (kui on) ja ladinakeelseid (kui on) ning lk numbrit ja loen ka sissekande läbi, kuid otse maha (oma aruga) ei kirjuta, kui vahel midagi kattu(b)vad siis ma lihtsalt ei osanud paremini sõnastada...

; "Meditsiinisõnastikus" 794:2004: tsütokiin mitmesuguste rakkude produtseeritavad rakkudevahelist informatsiooni vahendavad väikesemolekulised proteiinid (nt interferoonid, interleukiinid, lümfokiinid, kasvutegurid)

; Vikipeedias: Tsütokiinid (inglise keeles cytokines) on mitmesugused rakkude poolt komplekteeritavad ja vabastatavad väikesemolekulilised (~5–20 kDa) lahustuvad valgud või glükoproteiinid, mis vahendavad lokaalselt erinevaid bioloogilisi toimeid ja rakkudevahelist informatsiooni.

Mariina 3. september 2014, kell 15:43 (EEST) alias Простота
Definitsioon on segane, põhirühmade loetelu on ähmastatud. Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2014, kell 16:13 (EEST)

: Definitsioon on puudulik aga 'rööptermineid' eesti keeles ei ole leidnud mina...

: tsütokiine saab liigitada mitmeti, mõtlen ma, - keegi võiks püüda kirjeldada kus ja millist toimet nad avaldavad aga jah 'lühidalt on nad sellised püsimatud ja ettearvamatud' ...

: Mariina 3. september 2014, kell 16:26 (EEST) alias Простота

:: Kas põhirühm on sama mis 'perekond'?

:: Katherine A. Fitzgerald, The Cytokine Factsbook, lk 4

:: Mariina 3. september 2014, kell 17:17 (EEST) alias Простота

::: Tundub, et ei ole. Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2014, kell 19:18 (EEST)
Minu arust on tsütokiinid lahustuvad ensüümid... aga see ei ole levinud..., kõiki tsütokiine läbi käia ilmselt ei jõua ( näiteks I-10), ka arstidel (sh onkoloogidel) on nendega omajagu 'tegemist' - ei osata selgitada näiteks IL-2 teraapias kasutatava eksogeense tsütokiini toimeid - kuna osad vähihaiged võivad justkui 'imeväel' paraneda ja teistele võib ravi mõjuda laastavalt, lisaks kinnitavad mitmed katsed, et IL-2 ei avalda mõju vähirakkudele...
Tsütokiinidele ('immunotransmitterid' (nagu neurotransmitterid närvisüsteemis)) 'tulevad vastu' ka 'antitsütokiinid' ...
Mariina 6. september 2014, kell 07:34 (EEST) alias Простота

Cytokines are a broad and loose category of small proteins (~5–25 kDa[1]) important in cell signaling. (enwiki artikli päisest). Sama soome lehel: Sytokiini on proteiinirakenteinen solujen välisen viestinnän välittäjäaine. Loen ka Carl Zimmeri raamatust Viiruste planeet lk 25, et..rakud vallandavad signaalmolekule, mida nimetatakse tsütokiinideks. Meie artikli definitsioon on üldjoontes küll sama tähendusega vahendavad lühiajaliselt erinevaid immuunvastuseid ja rakkudevahelist informatsiooni aga äkki võiks olla see lühike selgesõnaline lisa - tsütokiinid on rakkude signaalmolekulid (vms). Samas on oluline teema ka see, et tsütokiinid erinevad hormoonidest, mis on samuti signaalmolekulid. They are different from hormones, which are also important cell signaling molecules. --Nimelik (arutelu) 19. juuni 2022, kell 15:15 (EEST)


Arutelu:September 2014

Mina ei saanud Obama jutust nii aru, et ta oleks lubanud Islamiriigi hävitada. Aga võib-olla ma sain valesti aru. Andres (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 11:27 (EEST)

Ise kuulasin "poole kõrvaga", aga, see on vist see, mida ka inglased epiteediga contradictory iseloomustavad; Putin-Porošenko kõnelesid vist kella 5 paiku hommikul, misjärel hakkasid mõlemad pooled umbes iga 15 minuti järel kõneluse sisu ja tulemust muutma; Putin olevat itar-tassi järgi visandanud 7-punktilise plaani lennukis Mongooliasse, mis võis olla mõjutatud ka BO kõnest, ei tea. — Pietadè (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 14:24 (EEST)

: Peaks täisteksti lugema (tuginesin Reutersi tõlgendusele) või üle kuulama, siis saaks kindlalt öelda. See, mis puudutab Islamiriigi teemat. Mis puudutab Ukrainat, siis seal on info segane, mida Putin kellele ja millal ütles. Tuginesin taas Reutersi tõlgendusele. -- Toomas (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 15:07 (EEST)

: Tsitaat on igatahes esitatud kujul "Our objective is clear and that is to degrade and destroy ISIL so it’s no longer a threat — not just to Iraq but also to the region and to the United States". Sõna "destroy" kasutamine palju tähendusvarjundeid just ei võimalda. -- Toomas (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 15:09 (EEST)

:: Teised said ka nii aru, ju siis nii oli. Ameerika ajakirjanik küsis, kas Islamiriiki kavatsetakse täielikult purustada või ainult ohjeldada, ja mul jäi mulje, et ta hakkas keerutama, ei kinnitanud, et tahetakse täielikult purustada. Aga ju ta siis hakkas mingit ettevalmistatud teksti lugema. Pärast läks jutt nii pikaks, et mul hajus tähelepanu ära. Igatahes see klausel so it’s no longer a threat ei jäta mulle muljet täielikkusest, vaid et ta kuidagi ikka hingitseb, aga jõuetuna. Andres (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 15:13 (EEST)

::: Jah, siin oleks nagu vastuolu. Ühelt poolt "destroy", mis on päris tugev sõna. Teiselt poolt see tingimus, mida sa mainid. Ma mõtlen võib-olla parema sõnastuse siia välja, et ei kõlaks nii resoluutselt. -- Toomas (arutelu) 4. september 2014, kell 15:17 (EEST)

* 13. september Venemaa välisministeerium pöördus rahvusvahelise ülduse poole üleskutsega kaitsta venekeelse elanikkonna huve Läti ja Eestis.

23. september Venemaa Föderaalsel kosmoseagentuuril on kavas alustada alates 2020-ndate aastate lõpust 2030-ndate aastate algusest täiemahulist Kuu uurimist.

* 26. september Pooleks aastaks kosmosesse lennanud 11-aastase tütre ema, 38-aastane insener Jelena Serova oli pärast 17-aastast vaheaega neljas venelanna kosmoses ja esimene venelanna Rahvusvahelise kosmosejaama pardal.


Siia ei tule linke ning puudub ka [[Rahvahääletus avalike algkoolide seaduse muutmiseks]]. Nii ei leia seda üles. [[Kasutaja:Andres|Andres]] ([[Kasutaja arutelu:Andres|arutelu]]) 4. september 2014, kell 16:54 (EEST)

mitu linki tuleb märksõnalt [[Rahvahääletus Algkooli seaduse muutmiseks]]. See on vist keeleliselt vigane. Kas ka faktiliselt vigane (st kas oligi tollastes dokumentides sellise nimega)?--[[Kasutaja:Estopedist1|Estopedist1]] ([[Kasutaja arutelu:Estopedist1|arutelu]]) 2. juuni 2017, kell 15:28 (EEST)

Kas 1923. a Eesti statistikaväljaandes ([http://193.40.192.80/arhiiv/et/perioodika/29769 Esimene rahvahääletus Eestis 17–19 veebruaril 1923 a.] [[Eesti Statistika kuukiri]], 1923, 14 (3). [[Riigi Statistika Keskbüroo]]) olevast valimistulemusi kajastavast kaardist võib koopia teha, et Commonsisse ja siia artiklisse panna? Sealt võetud kaarti on kasutatud ka Eesti Kiriku artiklis ([http://www.eestikirik.ee/rahvahaaletus-suhtumist-kirikusse-peegeldamas/]). --[[Kasutaja:Minnekon|Minnekon]] ([[Kasutaja arutelu:Minnekon|arutelu]]) 19. november 2020, kell 17:07 (EET)

Pealkiri on hetkel väheütlev. See peaks mainima referendumi peateemat - usuõpetust. Nt "Algkoolide usuõpetuse referendum". On kellelgi muid ideid, kuidas seda sõnastada? --Minnekon (arutelu) 5. jaanuar 2021, kell 00:13 (EET)

https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arutelu:Rahvahääletus algkoolide usuõpetuse küsimuses


Kasutaja arutelu:Getterr

MoneyZen on inimestevaheline ühisrahastusportaal (laenud inimeselt inimesele). MoneyZen ise laenu ei paku. MoneyZen on finantsportaal kus inimestel on võimalik omavahel sõlmida rahalisi leppeid. MoneyZeni portaal on mõeldud nii investoritele kui ka laenajatele.
===== Viited =====
Artikkel Rahapuu blogis
Artikkel Money Is Your Friend blogis


Arutelu:Prognoos (meditsiin)

Mida mõeldakse siin digitaalsete kriteeriumitega? Adeliine 5. september 2014, kell 21:58 (EEST)

Artikkel võib vajada ajakohastamist, aga hetkel mina ei oska, prognoos võiks vastata inimese (patsiendi, või tema lähedase või tugiisiku) küsimustele mis diagnoos, mida tuleks teha, võib-olla ka kuidas, kust saaks võimlaikult informatiivset ja neutraalset infot lugeda (paljud inimesed ei usalda arstide keep smiling ja 'kõik on ohutu' kuvandeid) ja vahel ka kui kauaks inimest veel on...
Prognoos (meditsiin) ei sõltu ainuüksi haigest ja tema tervislikust seisukorrast,  prognoosil on mitmeid majanduslikke tegureid (nii näiteks kurdavad Ebolamaades abis olevad arstid, et sünnitajail ja osadel haigetel pole enam haiglasse asja, kõik asutused on ebolahaigete poolt hõivatud) ja veel kohati ka mitmeid seadusandlikke piiranguid, piiravaks võib lugeda ka inimeste vähest teadlikkust erinevatest haiguslikest seisunditest, ravimite mittesobivust konkreetsele haigele, valediagnoose ja arstide vigu jpm.
Mariina 6. september 2014, kell 07:20 (EEST) alias Простота


Malli arutelu:Underline

Milleks seda vaja on? Kas ei piisa märgenditest  ja ?  • • • Kasutaja:Ahsoous • arutelu • 7. september 2014, kell 01:12 (EEST)

Need peaks siis redigeerimiskasti alla panema. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 10:05 (EEST)

: Parem mitte, neid lähed tarvis erandjuhtudel ja üldiselt tuleks allajoonimist vormistuses vältida. Pikne 7. september 2014, kell 10:39 (EEST)

::: Ma saan aru, et kaardile kirje lisamine on keelatud ära mingis "wiki-kartograafia" alases autoriteetses (ainult kasutajale Pikne teadaolevas) üllitises, aga, kes pgan on eesti keele suhtes pannud paika ´´käsulause``: "üldiselt tuleks allajoonimist vormistuses vältida"? Ootaks viidet. Lisaks: ka klaviatuuril olev Delete nupp on inimestes "kiusatust" tekitanud..., jne — Pietadè (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 14:19 (EEST)

:::: Vikipeedias lihtsalt pole minu kogemusel tavaks artiklites allajoonitud teksti kasutada. Pikne 7. september 2014, kell 15:01 (EEST)

:: Kui tarvis läheb, siis on ju hea, kui on võtta. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 12:57 (EEST)

::: Seal on valitud asjad, kõik ju niikuinii ei mahu redigeermiskasti alla. Ja antud silte on tõesti väga harva tarvis, kardan et neid silma all hoides tekitame lihtsalt kiusatust neid vales kohas kasutada. Pikne 7. september 2014, kell 13:53 (EEST)

:::: Minu meelest meil ei ole sellega probleeme olnud, et allakriipsutamisega liialdatakse. Kes ei tea, ei saa niikuinii aru, milleks need on. Aga mina näiteks ei saa klaviatuurilt neid märke tekitada, mida siin tarvis on, ja meeles pidada, kuidas see täpselt peab olema, on raske. Kui peab hakkama juhendist otsima, siis läheb töö vastikult tülikaks. Selleks see mall mõeldud ongi, et oleks lihtsam meeles pidada ja tekitada. Nii et kui te ei taha redigeerimiskasti alla seda panna, siis palun jätke see mall alles. Ja kui te selle malli ära kustutate, siis palun pange redigeerimiskasti alla vastav kiri. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 14:40 (EEST)

::::::Aga, mix Sa siis ei kasuta HTMLi "silte" (tag)? Kujul tekst annab juba aastakümneid tulemuseks tekst... — Pietadè (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 15:56 (EEST)

::::: Nojah, kui ei tea, kuidas alla joonida, siis on raske leida, kuidas see käib ja sellepärast pole seni ka liialdatud. Kuna on lihtne leida, kuidas näiteks rasvast kirja saada, siis sellega see-eest paratamatult liialdatakse aeg-ajalt. Minu mõte on, et pole head põhjust allajoonimisega sama võimaldada, kui allajoonimist tegelikult peaaegu kunagi vaja ei lähe. Ja kui haruldased asjad pole kogu aeg silma all, siis sellevõrra lihtsam on silma all oleva seast leida sageli vajaminevaid asju. Ma ei tea, minu meelest tuleb ka malli puhul teada, et mall on olemas ja millise nimega ta on. Pikne 7. september 2014, kell 15:01 (EEST)

Arvan et tegelt need html-i tagid võiksid redigeerimiskasti all olemas olla ja just harvemini kasutatavad asjad võiksid seal olla. Näiteks é ma tekitan alati klaviatuurilt otse, aga kui on vaja märki ė, siis otsi (kusjuures huvitav on see, et kunagi ma selle nagu nende märkide hulka omateada lisasin, nüüdseks paistis see aga kadunud olema). Aga miks see mall olemas peaks olema põhjust pole nagu näha. Kas on teada mingeid erijuhte, millal need html-i märgendid ei tööta.  • • • Kasutaja:Ahsoous • arutelu • 7. september 2014, kell 18:22 (EEST)

:: Pane see ė siis tagasi. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 19:43 (EEST)

::: Juba paningi.  • • • Kasutaja:Ahsoous • arutelu • 7. september 2014, kell 21:00 (EEST)

:Ma ei näe kül midagi halba selles, et mall teeb sama, mida allajoonimistagid. --Morel (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 19:34 (EEST)
Pikne, kas Sa siis ei lugenud, mis ma kirjutasin? Mallil on kaks eelist: esiteks on seda kergem meeles pidada ja teiseks ta ei sisalda suurem-väiksem-märke, mida näiteks minu klaviatuuril ei ole. Aga kui asi on redigeerimiskasti all olemas, siis ma eelistan seda. Minu meelest küll neid asju seal praegu liiga palju ei ole. Ja ma ei ütleks ka, et rasvase kirja kuritarvitamine oleks praegu tõsine probleem. Kui Sa ütled, et kumbagi ei tohi olla, siis see ei tundu konstruktiivne. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 19:43 (EEST)

:::::: Ma arvan, et nad on sul olemas. Standardse klaviatuuri peal on nad võetavad shiftiga koma ja punkti koha pealt.  • • • Kasutaja:Ahsoous • arutelu • 7. september 2014, kell 21:00 (EEST)

Olgu peale, kuidas kellelgi, minu meelest on universaalsemat HTML-silti lihtsam meeles pidada. Ja noolsulge läheb sul niikuinii ennem tarvis kümnes muus olukorras kui millegi allajoonimiseks. Ei, seda ma muidugi ei ütle, et rasvast kirja üldse kasutama ei peaks.

Minu meelest on parem lubada sama asja jaoks nii vähe erinevaid süntakseid kui võimalik, et kood oleks ühtlasem ja toimetamiseks tuleks selgeks teha vähem erinevaid süntakseid. Ja HTML-sildid on antud juhul niikuinii.

Praegu võib-olla pole toimetamiskasti all liiga palju asju, aga kui välja otsida kõik, mida sama harva (või ka sagedamini) tarvis läheb, võiks seal olla palju rohkem asju. Ja lõppude lõpuks räägime tõesti praegu sellisest asjast, mida vähemasti artiklite redigeerimisel peaaegu kunagi vaja ei lähe. Pikne 7. september 2014, kell 20:09 (EEST)

: Mul ei ole standardne klaviatuur. Mul ei ole noolsulge ammu tarvis läinud, võtan vajalikud asjad redigeerimiskasti alt.  Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 22:46 (EEST)

Võib-olla siis teha artikkel-leht à la Alt code, nagu see enwikis jm olemas on. Minu PC näiteks toodab < ja > märke vastavalt õpetusele, millele suunab ingliswiki lehe Alt code allosas olev 1. välislink: Alt Codes List of Alt Key Codes Symbols, see tähendab, et samuti kui Alt+0151 [NumPad] annab tulemuseks pika kriipsu ("—") ja Alt+0150 vastavalt tulemuseks keskmise pikkusega kriipsu ("–"), samamoodi toodab kombinatsioon Alt+60 tulemuseks < ja Alt+62 vastavalt >; või siis, teiselt sama lehe välislingilt: Windows - Alt Key Numeric Codes – Alt+0139 ja Alt+0155 annavad tulemuseks < ja >. — Pietadè (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 20:33 (EEST)

Kui peab kuskilt järele vaatama, siis on oluliselt tülikam. Andres (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 22:50 (EEST)

: Meenub et eelmisel sajandil abi korras saabunud klaviatuuridel polnud nt täpitähti ollagi, tahes-tahtmata tuli koodidega kirjutada, ja praegu on neid raske ära unustada, koode. — Pietadè (arutelu) 7. september 2014, kell 23:09 (EEST)


Arutelu:Eesti NSV riiklik preemia

Kas tegu polnud lihtsalt ümbernimetamisega? ENE 2. trükis on küll öeldud, mitu inimest kummagi nimetusega preemia sai, aga sama märksõna all. Pikne 13. september 2014, kell 17:23 (EEST)

On linke märksõnale Eesti NSV teaduspreemia (ENSV teaduspreemia). On ka artikkel Eesti teaduspreemia--Estopedist1 (arutelu) 21. oktoober 2015, kell 18:26 (EEST)
Veel linke siit ENSV riiklik teaduspreemia. See on ilmselt sama asi, mis Eesti NSV riiklik preemia--Estopedist1 (arutelu) 11. aprill 2016, kell 10:32 (EEST)
Veel linke: Nõukogude Eesti teaduspreemia--Estopedist1 (arutelu) 16. jaanuar 2019, kell 21:15 (EET)

siiski, meil on ka artikkel Eesti NSV Ministrite Nõukogu teaduspreemia. Samuti Eesti NSV teaduspreemiad--Estopedist1 (arutelu) 16. jaanuar 2019, kell 20:42 (EET)

See asi on siin natuke halvasti. Nõukogude Eesti preemiad ja Eesti NSV riiklikud preemiad on sama asi (viimane nimetati 1982. aastal lihtsalt ümber, nagu kirjutab Pikne. Ühtlasi on need preemiad praeguste riiklike kultuuripreemiate eelkäijad. Praegu ei tule see hästi välja. Teaduspreemiad on eraldi.--Merleke5 (arutelu) 10. mai 2020, kell 02:15 (EEST)

Ühtlasi on need preemiad praeguste [Eesti Vabariigi kultuuripreemia|riiklike kultuuripreemiate] eelkäijad

:Kas Eesti NSV on Eesti Vabariigi eelkäija? Muide, Eesti NSV ei olnud isegi riik. Ursus scribens (arutelu) 10. mai 2020, kell 20:53 (EEST)

::Väljendusin halvasti. Neis artiklites võiks olla kirjas, et Nõukogude Eesti preemiate järel anti välja Eesti NSV riiklikke preemiaid ja taasiseisvunud Eesti Vabariigis antakse välja Eesti Vabariigi kultuuripreemiaid vms. Kas selliselt on mu mõte vastuvõetavam?--Merleke5 (arutelu) 10. mai 2020, kell 21:15 (EEST)

:::Minu arvates piisab sellestki, kui neid nimetada Vaata ka alajaotuses. Ursus scribens (arutelu) 11. mai 2020, kell 08:45 (EEST)

Eesti Vabariigi kultuuripreemia eelkäija

https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arutelu:Eesti NSV riiklik preemia


Arutelu:Heavy Metal Nonstop

võtsin välja, v-o midagi annab kasutada:
==Esitav koosseis==
*Lemo - vokaal, kitarr
*Dan - basskitarr, taustavokaal
*Petuke - kitarr
*Ints - trummid, taustavokaal
*Margus "Maku" Kulden - vokaal ("Heavy Metal Nonstop")
*Gunnar Graps - suupill ("Birthday Party")
*Ants Nuut - vokaal ("Supero Hypero Pig"), tromboon ("Birthday Party" ja "Flamingo the Destructor")
*Lindistanud ja miksinud - Elmu Värk
*Produtseerinud - B.D.Ö.
*Illustratsioonid - Ruslan Piterija
*Erilised tänud - Liiva Mart
 --Bioneer1 (arutelu) 18. september 2014, kell 17:27 (EEST)